NEW YORK, March 14, 2007

Outrage Over NYC Granny Muggings

Man Who Attacked 101-Year-Old Woman May Be Safer If Cops Find Him First

  • Video Mugger Of Old Women On The Run

    Police are searching for a man who beat a 101-year-old woman to the ground in New York City. He is also a suspect in another attack of an elderly woman. WCBS' Dave Carlin spoke with the victims.

    • Surveillance video shows the suspect assaulting 101-year-old Rose Morat before stealing her purse and knocking her from her walker. Photo

      Surveillance video shows the suspect assaulting 101-year-old Rose Morat before stealing her purse and knocking her from her walker.  (NYPD)

    • 101-year-old Rose Morat showed her fractured and bruised face. Photo

      101-year-old Rose Morat showed her fractured and bruised face.  (WCBS)

    • 85-year-old Solange Elizee was also assaulted outside her apartment door. Photo

      85-year-old Solange Elizee was also assaulted outside her apartment door.  (WCBS)

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(CBS/AP)  Here's a tip for the guy who beat up a 101-year-old woman in a walker and took off with her purse: Get out of New York.

The vicious mugging, caught on surveillance tape, has sparked outrage in a city where people are accustomed to hearing about strange and violent crimes. Police have launched an all-out manhunt, but it's not just the cops who want the villain's head.

"I could hold him, and let the woman beat him up," said Joe Sarju, 59, who lives in the Queens neighborhood where the attack occurred. "I'd love to beat him, but then they would lock me up."

Police have received about 1100 calls from people outraged and wanting to help, reports CBS News correspondent Bianca Solorzano.

"When you're over 100-years-old, people should be helping you cross the street, not punching you in the face," said CBS News The Early Show co-anchor Harry Smith. "That's why so many people right here in New York would like to find this jerk, this thug."

The heartlessness of the March 4 attack is clearly conveyed on the grainy, black-and-white videotape, which has now been broadcast well beyond New York.

In it, 101-year-old Rose Morat is trying to leave her brick apartment building to go to church. The mugger, a man who looms over the senior citizen and is holding on to a bicycle, pretends to help her get through the vestibule.

Then, he turns, grabs Morat's head, delivers three hard punches to her face, and swipes her purse. The dazed victim tries to reach for her purse. That's when the mugger hits her again, pushing the woman and her walker to the ground.

He got away with $33 and Morat's house keys. She suffered a fractured cheekbone and spent time in the hospital. The attack didn't break Morat's spirit, though: She has said in the days since that if she'd been just a bit younger, she'd have gone after the guy.

"I'm a very strong woman," she said. "I've been that way my whole life."

"The elderly are particularly vulnerable when it comes to assaults by strangers, robberies by strangers. In fact, they have a greater chance of getting killed in such attacks because of their vulnerability," Northeastern University criminal justice professor James Alan Fox told CBS News.

The NYPD said it has assigned dozens of detectives to the case and shown every uniformed officer in the city the surveillance video. Police are canvassing residents in nearby buildings and talking to people in area businesses.

They believe the same man also attacked 85-year-old Solange Elizee, another neighborhood resident, shortly after robbing Morat. Elizee received facial cuts and bruises, while the mugger took off with $32 and two rings, including her wedding band.

Based on the victims' memories and the tape, police say the attacker is a black man in his 30s, about 5-foot-10 and 165 pounds. He wore a winter jacket with a fur-lined hood. The police department's public affairs office said Tuesday there were no new developments in the case.

Several posters have been placed throughout the generally quiet Queens neighborhood, urging anyone with information to call CrimeStoppers. So far, at least $18,000 in reward money is being promised by several sources, including the police, who Commissioner Raymond Kelly said Tuesday are raising their offer from $2,000 to $12,000.

Prompted by the attack, the state Senate's Republican majority proposed Tuesday to toughen penalties for assaulting an elderly person. The bill, offered by Sen. Martin Golden of Brooklyn, would make a felony of assaulting anyone more than 70 years old, among other provisions. Currently, such an assault could result in only a misdemeanor, punishable by no more than a year in jail.

Meanwhile, New Yorkers were struggling for the right way to describe the attacker, because curse words just don't seem to do it. In interviews and letters to newspapers, some suggested life imprisonment — or perhaps till he's 101.

John Brown, 45, of the Bronx, said the mugger must have been on drugs, because no rational person would do such a thing. "That was a cowardly act," fumed Brown. "For someone to do that to an old person — it was a cowardly, desperate act."

Others were reminded of the perils that could face their own parents and grandparents. Some wondered whether the mugger's mother was alive.

"My mom is 95, and if someone ever raised a hand to her ... they'd be dead," said Anthony Riccardelli, 58, who works near the crime scene. If he could get his hands on the mugger? "No one would ever know," Riccardelli said. "He'd be with Hoffa."

For others, it's not just about getting mad or getting revenge. Glenridge senior center in Ridgewood, Queens, is bringing back self-defense courses for the elderly in the next few days.

The center received dozens of phone calls on the topic after news broke of the attacks, said Susan Simonetti, the center's executive director. She, too had a warning for the mugger.

"Pick on somebody your own age," she said.

As for the victim, Morat told officials at the Queens district attorney's office she was too busy to meet with them Tuesday — because of a canasta tournament, the New York Daily News reports.


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by cathaleen March 14, 2007 11:29 AM EDT
The creep will be arrested and Jesse, Al, and the ACLU will show up. Somehow they will try to turn it around on the 101 year old that she's a bigot.
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by gunownerdan March 14, 2007 11:34 AM EDT
Criminals love easy victims. If granny had a gun and knew how to use it, she could have easily stopped him.
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by theusa1st March 14, 2007 11:34 AM EDT
The creep will be arrested and Jesse, Al, and the ACLU will show up. Somehow they will try to turn it around on the 101 year old that she's a bigot.
Posted by cathaleen at 08:29 AM : Mar 14, 2007

That about sums it up....sick isn't it.
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by jetlizhan March 14, 2007 11:37 AM EDT
my little Mom is 79 and has dementia - if anyone, i mean ANYONE harmed her in any way, physically, mentally, etc - i'm scared of what i would do to him/her. i believe there would definitely be prison in my future.
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by upsilon101 March 14, 2007 11:42 AM EDT
I was just thinking the same thing there cathaleen...somehow it will be turned around. I wonder how the people would react though if it was a white man attacking an elderly black woman??? Something to think about.
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by grazinggoat March 14, 2007 12:28 PM EDT
This is shameful! All my respects to the old-aged lady. FEEL REALLY SORRY FOR HER.
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by yvette77-2009 March 14, 2007 12:29 PM EDT
Human Citizen-
Your comment is completely offensive and uncalled for. I found myself equally mortified of this crime like most rational people. To commit such a heinous crime regardless of race or ethnicity of those involved is a complete outrage. However, there is absolutely NO reason for you to use racial slurs in your post. Crimes in this nation are commited by people of various races, genders, sexual orientation, etc. No matter who does it it's still wrong. If you were truly a "human citizen" you wouldn't contribute the problem of racism and bigotry.
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by hambonehd March 14, 2007 12:33 PM EDT
Want to let you New Yorkers know, if we see him down this way, we will bring him back to you guys for final determination, with a few broken bones of course.
A hole.!
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by lmaxwell2 March 14, 2007 12:37 PM EDT
Let's not make this a black or white issue. Keep it as simple as it is. A man mugging a woman. This man is a Weenie. Simple. He has no morals, conscious or any other attributes regarding fellow humans. It makes it worse because she is fragile and her age.

However, it just proves that we are a reactive society, instead of always being gentle, respectful and thoughtful of our elders, it takes something like this for people to jump on the band wagon

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by moose49304 March 14, 2007 12:57 PM EDT
it does not matter if the older woman was white or black its wrong for some thug to do this my heart and prayers go out to her
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by comfortmd1 March 14, 2007 1:01 PM EDT
my kids have to avoid all the violent "black youth" when they go to school each day. I have had to threaten prosecution to some of the "upstanding members of our society" so they would leave us alone. and all because i stopped 5 black siblings from throwing rocks at a car last summer. they do NOT respect their elders, and they see white people and/or society as things they can run rampant over, since their fathers do the exact same thing. we are so tied up in being "politically correct" that we let all the minority gangs do whatever they want while we try to gently coax them into NOT being animals.

The jerk that did this is just a banger who left his normal route because he needed some extra drug money. either his "homies" wont turn him in ever, or the person that turns him in will save half the money for when he gets out of jail, which for simple assault is what... two to five?

so yes, in a way it is kind of a black thing.

it is NOT a white thing
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by bm6005 March 14, 2007 1:02 PM EDT
Yea Gunownerdan. I'd feel real safe if a 101 yr old grandma was packing. Don't getme wrong this guy needs to go down. The rest of you racists are amazing. Who the hell is going to come out on this neanderthal's side? It would be suicide to do so.
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by trueprogress March 14, 2007 1:24 PM EDT


It is easy to judge other people. But who are we to judge ?

We do not know what this person's childhood was like. Perhaps he was abused as a child ? Perhaps the "system" was unfair to him and his brothers and sisters. Maybe his father was in jail just because of his race ? The hatred that a person has , has to be learned. All things are learned either by example or by "teachers" via punishment. Can we not all of us, take some responsibility for this acting out, or is it a "call for help" ? .

We need more facts. We need love and compassion.

(the above is total BS but reflects the BS excuses, used a lot , like in Long Beach CA, when a group of 15 Blacks attacked 3 White teen girls on Holloween, and smashed their faces in with skate boards etc for the fun of it ! They all got off - ALL GOT OFF ! - why ? see above- with home probation . Are we crazy ?? One or more will grow up to be this guy ! or are they this guy already - here we are shocked by the video, three kids attacked by a mob, ALL got off ))
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by noaanhc March 14, 2007 1:27 PM EDT
The should ask the NY mafia bosses to help track down this worthless scum.Have them put a contract on this vermin for $1,000,000 & within a just a few days there would be one less criminal in NYC.

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by three-o-six March 14, 2007 1:31 PM EDT
One bullet through the middle of his skull and no one will need to care what his childhood was like. I don't want to judge him - i just simply want to kill him
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by politikz2 March 14, 2007 1:31 PM EDT
What about those white teenagers who were beating up homeless blacks in Florida last year, and killed one?? Hey comfortmd1? Was that a "BLACK THING"? You *** idiot!!
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by zootallures2 March 14, 2007 1:34 PM EDT
He was just stretching when all of a sudden, as you can plainly see, as his hands were raised, the heat in his arm pits cause a structural failure in his shoulders and that caused his arms to fall on her face. It's the Armpit theory. Should be on PBS with computer simulation soon.
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by zootallures2 March 14, 2007 1:43 PM EDT
You can say it's blacks, whites, jews, muslims...what ever. In reallity it is all humans and you are all sick freakin' lying morons. You can say it's the blacks to your hierachial societal cohorts, but God knows it's ALL of you!
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by comfortmd1 March 14, 2007 1:49 PM EDT
politikz...

this is meant for debate, not for personal insults.

i stated why i felt this way, do you have any reason? other than a news story?

how many thousands upon thousands of white kids are bullied and/or beat up by black kids? (and the use of racial expletives is uncalled for, i was talking about the "rap generation" black youth) just because a group of spoiled upper middle class white brats beat up a bunch of people, that makes news because they rarely act up in that way. plus society would rahter crucify white people, since black people are protected, even though they brag about crimes on rap videos and call for the downfall of this great nation (nation of islam). All of these things are in everyone's faces every day, but no one wants to even say anything about it for fear of being branded racist. white people's taxes pay for a big portion of what a chunk of black people call "income". it is UNGRATEFUL for them to act in this way. I bet that guy who punched that old lady gets food stamps and welfare. or at least his family does. getting things without earning them just causes people to want for more and more. it never ends.

no more racism versus whites. no more freaking attacks on our mothers and children! prosecute to the extreme any gang banger or young thug that preys on people like this and it will finally STOP!
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by sharncedar March 14, 2007 2:01 PM EDT
"it is UNGRATEFUL for them to act in this way."

har har har - that's slave master talk all right. Didn't we provide all this nice food, and a roof over your head, and to fight back, why that's ungrateful.

That's the same stuff we get from our oppressive government and corporate slave masters- why we provide you middle class people with toys and entertainment, we only work you 60 hours a week, all we take in return is your manhood, your destiny, your self-determination, your natural resources, your social connections, your young women, your right to practice free religion and thought, your right to change society, to interact with each other in new ways, and you are so UNGRATEFUL that you grumble and don't work as hard as the Chinese.

Funny reading, those UNGRATEFUL, they have so much to be grateful fo, why, they are given free food. Food. Isn't that enough? What's the problem, people want more than food, what are they, human?
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by comfortmd1 March 14, 2007 2:07 PM EDT
sharn cedar, have you ever been out of the country?

have you seen the legions of poor that have nothing because no one will give anything to them? starving or disease ridden that death would be a release?

people lying in the gutter because they had nothing and their parents had nothing, but to expect an early grave.

india, pakistan, egypt, sudan, chad, zimbabwe, thailand, china, just to name a few...

YES THEY ARE UNGRATEFUL

people went out of their way to protect them (white people too i might add) only black people have made a stink of white people "taking their manhood".

get real
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by sharncedar March 14, 2007 2:09 PM EDT
"Wake up America! Don't be a silent people, stand your ground and fight back. "

Odd that you use the rhetoric of freedom fighters to encourage whites fighting with blacks, which is the typical distraction our enemies use against us. They keep us constantly fighting against each other. Which is the very mechanism by which we lose any real chance at freedom and self-determination.

It's "liberals against conservatives" or "whites against blacks" or "women against men" and all the while the elite consolidate more power and wealth into their own hands. We lose our right to be men, to matter in the course of affairs, to change our own country and affect the future,` and it certainly isn't "blacks or whites" that take that from us, it is an organized and focused group of wealthy and influential elite.

Might as well fight Coke against Pepsi or something, or Kerry versus Bush, its a lot of phony dichotomies that keep stupid people stupid and distracts their anger while they rape your daughter, "legally" of course, by enticing her with money or a job or whatever.
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by plsthink March 14, 2007 2:14 PM EDT
My grandmom was also mugged by several black youths after attending church. You have no idea what I want to do with these punks/cowards.
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by a-ji March 14, 2007 2:17 PM EDT
Many criminals are roaming around regardless of color and race. Elderly must be respected not mugged. Shame on that man, may he be caught and due punishment grant unto him.
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by sharncedar March 14, 2007 2:21 PM EDT
Just to point out my perspective, I immediately recognized this particular news story as propaganda (surprise all news in America today is paid propaganda, of course if you think about it, it's power and power is acquired by the powerful. Just as no one leaves $100 on the street, no one will leave an independent media outlet lying around).

So I recognized this story as an attempt to use the middle class to create a "safer" environment for the crooks and financial people of New York, which are the big firms like Goldman Sachs and so forth who are feverously betraying America to foreign interests, while taking unprecedented record wealth. But, they want New York to be a secure playground, a sort of adult-themed Disneyland, with sushi and clubs and starry-eyed country girls. Safe to walk around. They managed to do a lot recently with supressing the inhabitants of New York and keeping them in fear, but its wearing off like fear always does. Some of the locals are starting to make trouble - time for the planted news stories about "outrages" to get stupid middle class people to suppress the poor for them. Don't do it, be smart. Dead bankers means more jobs for Americans.

Long post, but there is a lot to understand about the media, and the reasons for stories appearing. The media is as important as elections, there is a lot going on behind the scenes.
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by theusa1st March 14, 2007 2:39 PM EDT
SharnCedar - so a couple of older women get beat up my a grown black man and YOU blame it on the media and corporate America.

Out of all the post I have ever read on CSB yours has to be one of the stupidist...you are truly off the charts. Unbelievable !!!!
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by mo005 March 14, 2007 2:48 PM EDT
Hey dude: God saw what you did, enjoy the fire punk.
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by March 14, 2007 2:50 PM EDT
To the guy who assault the elderly lady shame on you.why dont you go and earn a living instead of prying on innocent victim for their money. You may think you got away with it. But trust me you will be caught and when you are you will be paying the price for your heartless crime.Once again shame on you
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by mo005 March 14, 2007 2:54 PM EDT
theUSA1st : Lets here an amen for this one. SharnCedar: you could at least say its a *** shame or that poor ole lady or better yet say something that has something to do with the story. putz
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by noview1 March 14, 2007 3:07 PM EDT
Along the lines of the couple who tourtured their child to death, this man is on the same level. They are white, he is black, and they both deserve to rot in h@ll.

I propose they are tourtured, they dying bodies dragged through the streets, and their carcasses burned.

It is barbaric, YES. Would it make an example, YES.
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by gunownerdan March 14, 2007 3:10 PM EDT
Criminals prefer unarmed victims.
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by funkiwiteboy March 14, 2007 3:33 PM EDT
SharnCedar is obviously a racisist who will use any excuse to cry about having to WORK for a living. Selling drugs or robbing the elderly or lieing for foodstamps or being dishonest or taking advantage of some legalist loop hole is the way HisType of people get by and think that its ok to be that way that. Someone has got to pay for Them to exist.
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by jetlizhan March 14, 2007 3:42 PM EDT
mo005 -

love your post!
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by whatithink-2009 March 14, 2007 4:04 PM EDT
This is exactly why we as a country can never come together. I too was outraged at the video tape and was amazed to come here and find out that I'm also responsible for it because I happen to be black. Huh? If that is the case, then every white person must be responsible for the slave trade because some white people happened to have done it. I'm sure many of you would not support this thought.

What amazes me is that people who speak out about personal responsibility are the first people to use the "blame the race" card when it suits them.

I find what this man did reprehensible and would have regardless of his color or the color of his victim. I also find it reprehensible to turn every issue into a race discussion when the topic is not a white-on-white one.
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by ekucrew March 14, 2007 4:14 PM EDT
Some of his chronies will rat him out just as soon as the reward gets bigger$$$$$$$...the sooner, the better!
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by hober_mallow March 14, 2007 4:38 PM EDT
To whatithink... No I don't think you hit that woman.

But as far as 'then every white person must be responsible for the slave trade because some white people happened to have done it' goes, there are blacks who fervently believe this.

In any group of people, most people are nice, some are morons, and some are a--holes.
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by jvman4u March 14, 2007 4:41 PM EDT
Hey People, I'm not for beating up old ladies, or anyone for the matter- BUT, chastizing this PUNK/MUGGER on here isn't helping- like do you really think he's reading the papper and our little BLOG??? Lastly, why did this little old lady, open her SECURITY door with that guy hanging in the FOYER holdong a bicycle, why didn't she wait to see if the guy left first? call someone, or if the building has security, why not get them to send this guy down the street? was she walking to church- or getting a cab- maybe she should have asked the cabby to meet her at the door? A MUGGING is a MUGGING, if it didn't happen at her door, she's an EZ target, on the street, subway, even in church. Why wasn't any family with her to escort her around- SHE*S 101 years old, and live"s in QUEENS, whould you leave your mother to fend for her own, and expect her to be vigilant enough to ward off a drugged-up mugger on her own??? where was the family? if she's unable to care for herself, then maybe it's also time to consider assisted living or some other MORE SECURE location and living arrangement...
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by observantx March 14, 2007 4:50 PM EDT

I think it was D i c k Cheney.
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by klingon69 March 14, 2007 4:59 PM EDT
SharnCedar;
If you want your manhood, be a man. Get your a$$ out and find a job like the rest of us. Pay your bills, get off welfare&foodstamps, Move out of section 8, Invest time in raising your kids. Then you can call yourself a man.
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by ubikvalis2 March 14, 2007 5:01 PM EDT

I have a feeling this person will be caught and punished severely. He will end up in jail, and I doubt his jailmates are going to be impressed with his record of beating up 85 and 101 year little old ladies.

He's either a disgusting human being, or, more likely, hopelessly addicted to drugs which have removed all sense of decency from him.
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by klingon69 March 14, 2007 5:09 PM EDT
WhatIThink;
I am not turning this into a racial, religal, genderal...etc issue. Yes, it is disgusting, looking at the picture of the lady makes me want to hunt down this b@stard and skin him alive one square inch at a time.
I don't feel race is an issue here at all. However as I responded to an earlier post, if you want to be a man, you must own up to your responsibilities. Obviously, the previous poster had not since he was complaigning about White's taking his manhood.
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by ajaxrose1 March 14, 2007 5:22 PM EDT
I hope this guy is caught and, when he is, he's dealt with in the correct way, not necessarily the "politically correct" way. I, personally, would like to see him have to face this sweet, little lady, look her in the bruised up eye and see if he feels like the big man he thinks he is. She is a classy lady to have any sympathy at all for that loser and I really admire her. Here she is OVER 100 years old and she's getting around as good as she does AND she's one tough lady! (I bet that jerk couldn't believe it when it took more than three punches to get her to go down.) I'll bet in her younger days she would have laid that creep low with a swift kick right where it hurts the most. I'm grateful, like everyone is I'm sure, that she and the other lady are for the most part okay.

p.s. to whatithink: I didn't notice anyone but you playing the "race card" here. When they gave the physical description to the police were they supposed to leave the guy's race out of it just because he's black? It doesn't sound to me like a whole race is being blamed for the attack. Personally, I don't give a rat's butt what someone's race is. An ****** is an ******. Plain and simple. This guy is definitely an
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by dontbasucka March 14, 2007 5:57 PM EDT
Isn't it a sign of who we have become?

Hate crime laws for homosexuals who get beat up acting like a woman to be picked up in a bar. Hate crime laws for using "words" such as *** and ending in a fight.

Check crime statistics. Last time I checked white on black crime was almost nothing and white on black rapes almost nothing, NIL!! Will the hate crime law affect this black man beating up a white 101 yr. old woman? Way to go America.

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by whammo1963 March 14, 2007 6:09 PM EDT
In the old days they would make an example of someone who did such a thing. Perhaps that was a good thing.
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by processor2 March 14, 2007 6:11 PM EDT
Too bad New York doesn't have a concealed-weapons law like my state.....The mugger would never mug again.

Which is why these anti-gun nuts are WRONG

YOU CAN'T STOP CRIMINALS BY DISARMING POTENTIAL VICTIMS.

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In my state, it is legal to kill someone if they break into your house while you're still in it.

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Which is why

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by processor2 March 14, 2007 6:13 PM EDT
Too bad New York doesn't have a concealed-weapons law like my state.....The mugger would never mug again.

Which is why these anti-gun nuts are WRONG

YOU CAN'T STOP CRIMINALS BY DISARMING POTENTIAL VICTIMS.

In my state, it is legal to kill someone if they break into your house while you're still in it.

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by whatithink-2009 March 14, 2007 6:16 PM EDT
To dontbasucka,

What you are saying makes no sense. If you look at the hate crime statistics it works both ways and both black on white and white on black hate crimes are numerous.

HOWEVER, unless he was beating her up because she was white instead of because he wanted her money, I don't get the point.
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by processor2 March 14, 2007 6:19 PM EDT
Too bad New York doesn't have a concealed-weapons law like my state.....THE MUGGER WOULD NEVER MUG AGAIN.

Which is why these anti-gun nuts are WRONG

YOU CAN'T STOP CRIMINALS BY DISARMING POTENTIAL VICTIMS.

IN MY STATE, IT IS LEGAL TO KILL SOMEONE if they break into your house while you're still in it.

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by whatithink-2009 March 14, 2007 6:20 PM EDT
To ajaxrose1,

Pleading ignorance might work with the Bush administration, but you are doing a poor job of it. You seem to have missed many of the messages before mine.
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by whatithink-2009 March 14, 2007 6:28 PM EDT
To Klingon69,

I agree with you.

I just think previous posters who talked about WHITE THINGS and BLACK THINGS or whatever or the one who said blacks are only smart if they have white blood are ignorant. Additionally, the fact that they said this and the other poster (ajaxrose1) can't even see the racism in their posts makes me wonder whether we can ever truly unite.
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