March 11, 2007

Al Qaeda: Shame On Hamas For Cooperating

Zawahiri Tape Says Palestinian Group Has "Fallen In The Swamp Of Surrender"

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(AP)  Al Qaeda's number two leader criticized the Palestinian Hamas for agreeing to form a national unity government according to an audio recording broadcast Sunday by Al-Jazeera satellite channel.

"Hamas has fallen in the swamp of surrender," Ayman al-Zawahri said, according to the excerpts broadcast by the Qatari-based channel

The audio recording just before Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas continued meeting on Sunday — their second summit in a month.

Al-Jazeera did not say how it obtained the audio recording and its authenticity could not be immediately verified. Excerpts broadcast were no longer than five minutes.

"I'm sorry to face the Islamic community with the painful truth, to offer condolences in the leadership of Hamas ... Hamas has fallen in the swamp of surrender," Osama bin Laden's lieutenant said.

Olmert said Sunday he was ready to "treat seriously" a dormant Saudi initiative calling for a comprehensive peace agreement between Israel and the Arab world in exchange for a full Israeli withdrawal from lands captured in the 1967 Mideast War.

This initiative goes to the heart of infighting between Palestinian factions as the moderate Abbas has tried to form a national unity government with the radical Hamas to end the international isolation of the Palestinians.

Western countries have boycotted the Palestinian government, led by Hamas after its electoral win in January 2005, over the Islamist group's refusal to renounce violence and recognize Israel.

Abbas won agreement in February from Hamas top leader Khaled Mashaal to form a national unity agreement. But the two sides have been struggling over the finer details of the arrangement they came to in the Saudi holy city of Mecca.

On Friday, Abbas gave the Hamas prime minister, Ismael Haniyeh, two weeks to form the government. Selecting the interior minister has been a key sticking point.

Later this month, Saudi Arabia is to hold an Arab summit that is expected to try and relaunch a 2002 Saudi peace plan all Arab countries make peace with Israel in return for the lands Israel captured during the 1967 Mideast war.

Al-Zawahri appeared in more than a dozen recordings posted on the Internet and obtained by Arab satellite channels last year. This is his fifth recording this year.

In late 2005, just weeks before Hamas swept the polls in Palestinian legislative elections, al-Zawahri lashed out at Islamist groups for participating in electoral politics, saying that they will never win at the ballot box.

That recording came just after Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood organization made its best ever showing in parliamentary elections winning nearly a fifth of seats. His message appeared directed primarily at Hamas, which is an offshoot of the Egyptian Islamist group.

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by beehive21-2009 March 11, 2007 4:07 PM EDT
Al-Zawahri you're a dead man walking,no one cares what you say .Would the family be proud your a killer ? of babies,old folks in the name of robot,BS.
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by jabberwock11 March 11, 2007 4:13 PM EDT
"in the name of robot"

I knew it!! Robots have been behind this all along! Sneaky ***!
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by dallison7 March 11, 2007 4:23 PM EDT
"Hamas has fallen in the swamp of surrender," Ayman al-Zawahri said,


SOUNDS JUST LIKE A REPUBLICAN!!
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by azman80 March 11, 2007 5:45 PM EDT
Al-Zawahri is only saying those things to fire up Hamas and keep the momentum going and keep those guys fighting. If there really is a Karma, all of those folks are just eating the $hit they deserve for all the chaos they cause to themselves and their famlies. Its just going to be the samething over and over and over and over again till they (Arabs and Jews) come to a mutual agreement which will probably never happen. And hamiltongrad, what is the world are you yapping about, there was a Palestine for a long ******* time before Israel annexed that land and started this fight.
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by j-whitman March 11, 2007 7:20 PM EDT
Hamiltongrad,,, You still don't know the 1st thing about the region do you ??
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by j-whitman March 11, 2007 7:40 PM EDT
Hamiltongrad,,, Your views on Palestine is totally lopsided... Isreal has created walls, restricted access to families, farms & jobs.. They control the funds & are actually destroying Palestinians economicly... Every book on countrer terrorism says building sound economic values is a key to correcting the problem -- Isreal is actually just as evil ast they are, Historicly.
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by bluestardad March 11, 2007 7:57 PM EDT
AMERICA MUST PULL OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST! ISRAEL AND THE ARABS MUST SOLVE THEIR OWN PROBLEMS! AMERICA HAS SPENT 50 YEARS TRYING TO CIVILIZE THESE ANIMALS AND THAT IS ENOUGH! WE CANNOT WANT PEACE MORE THAN THE PEOPLE WE TRY TO HELP!

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT STUPID! WE KNOW THAT

IF CONGRESS DOES NOT PASS THE IRAQ WAR SUPPLIMENTAL BUDGET REQUEST THE IRAQ WAR STOPS!

CONGRESS DO NOT PASS THE WAR SUPPLIMENTAL BUDGET!

CONGRESS FIDDLES WHILE IRAQ BURNS!

Write your Representatives and Senators!

SHOW THEM YOUR DISDAIN OF THEIR COWARDOUS ACTIONS WHILE OUR TROOPS ARE BEING KILLED! http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

Here is the House Speakers email address: AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov
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by randalds March 11, 2007 8:42 PM EDT
Posted by hamiltongrad at 02:00 PM : Mar 11, 2007

What a huge steaming pile of sh*it! Are you sure you're not really Rush Limbaugh? You haven't the slightest idea of what you're talking about, but it doesn't keep you from spitting garbage all over the place. Pick up a book! Read some truth! Stop watching the liars at FOX "News" and open your eyes! With your current lack of knowledge I find it difficult to believe you graduated from elementary school, let alone a college.
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by galileo07-2009 March 11, 2007 8:57 PM EDT
The war between Jews and Muslims began before oil became an economic commodity, before Israel was re-established by Jews in the mid-1900s, and before the Bush family became a political dynasty - long before America existed.

Supporters of an Arab Palestine ethinically cleansed of Jews must be choosing to ignore the long established history Israel has had in Canaan. Ancient writings apart from the Bible record the existence of an Israeli kingdom in Palestine. See the Mesha Stele dated near 850 B.C. with details including mention of Mesha king of Moab and Omri king of Israel, Israel, and Yahweh (Hebrew God).

Records indicate a large Jewish prescence in Palestine during the time of Muslim conquest in 5th century A.D. See "A History of Palestine, 634-1099" and the stories of Bar-Sawma, a Christian monk who was involved in a battle against a group of Jews.) The early history of Islam records Mohammed leading Arabs to battle Persian and Byzantine empires in Palestine.

Both Jews and Arabs originate from the Middle East and should have a right to live their in countries that may have a majority of either Jews or Muslims. Any speech denouncing the prescense of Jews in the Middle East is ethnic and religious hatred and ignores the history of Judaism in the Middle East that precedes Islam by over a millenium.
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by diplomacy3 March 11, 2007 9:09 PM EDT
It is really very unfortunate that some participants on this Board get themselves engaged in personal recrimination, religious slurs and rants. The very purpose of this Board is to exchange views on the chosen topic. I would suggest to all valued participants to please avoid slipping into religious generalities and personal references. Some of the participants look very well educated and we need to read their views on the current situation. Thank you.
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by lieber1881 March 11, 2007 9:41 PM EDT
Al Qaeda condemning Hamas:

Hmmm, a case of the equally pig-eating gutless roaches in the pot calling a bunch of other Islamonazi thug, pig-eating gutless roaches in the kettle, black.

**** and Sh*t would be much more likely for these gutless babykillers.
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by radiob-2009 March 11, 2007 11:56 PM EDT
A majority of Palestians and Israelis want the Camp David Peace Accords to become a reality according to a survey conducted by the Harry S. Truman Institute in Dec. of 06. All efforts should be towards the realization of those agreements that both sides are in favor of. It is not only in the interest of the Israelis and Palestians but it is also in the best intrest of the middle east and the US. Resolving this conflict would deter the recruitment of terrorist, it is one of the many non military actions that the US can be involved in the fight on the war on terror.If the US were asked to engage in resolving this conflict it should be exercised without prejudice as a mediator.
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by bluestardad March 12, 2007 1:00 AM EDT
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT STUPID! WE KNOW THAT

IF CONGRESS DOES NOT PASS THE IRAQ WAR SUPPLIMENTAL BUDGET REQUEST THE IRAQ WAR STOPS!

CONGRESS DO NOT PASS THE WAR SUPPLIMENTAL BUDGET!

CONGRESS FIDDLES WHILE IRAQ BURNS!

Write your Representatives and Senators!

SHOW THEM YOUR DISDAIN OF THEIR COWARDOUS ACTIONS WHILE OUR TROOPS ARE BEING KILLED! http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

Here is the House Speakers email address: AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov
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by trueprogress March 12, 2007 1:03 AM EDT
I have read Hamiltongrad, and looks like he has touched on a painful nerve for "Progressives" given all the comments. As I read Hamiltongrad , he is spot on and factual. The trouble with so many progressives is that they just hate America, Isreael and all things Western, and then make an argument, mostly silly and unfactual.Instead they should have principals and see what group fits. If you are for gayy rights you can/t possibly be for the PLO or Hama. If you are for Women's right and freedom of the press, you can not be a supporter of Hamas, Hezbolla, Iran etc. You get the idea.
I agree with Hamilton grad, you therefore have to be MORAL IDIOTS.
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by trueprogress March 12, 2007 1:11 AM EDT
PS. This is not an economic issue.
Those guys driving the airplanes, slitting the throats of passengers, and sterwardess, and killing 300 innocent Americans ( wanting to kill more), were educated more than middle class. How many more architects, and engineers do you want to kill innocent people before you get off this stupic economic Maxist theory ( excuse ) ?
If only they had enough money , jobs, plasma TVs, they would be like us and would like us ! BLATHER.
They want to kill us because they want to kill us. Their religion Wahhabisms has been teaching this openly, HEY you DOPES !
We should be sending more troops, bomb the borders regions in Pakistan where they are hold up, sector by sector, see who stumblies out. Close down Al Jazeera, interrogate the reporters until we find out where the bad guys live, and get them. What kind of a war is this ? Is this how our fathers would have fought WWII ? Let Hitler have a TV station, and a "safe" zone, next to the Joker's Lair ?
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by trueprogress March 12, 2007 1:14 AM EDT
PS. This is not an economic issue.
Those guys driving the airplanes, slitting the throats of passengers, and sterwardess, and killing 300 innocent Americans ( wanting to kill more), were educated more than middle class. How many more architects, and engineers do you want to kill innocent people before you get off this stupid economic Maxist theory ( excuse ) ?
If only they had enough money , jobs, plasma TVs, they would be like us and would like us ! BLATHER.
We should be sending more troops, bomb the borders regions in Pakistan where they are hold up, sector by sector, see who stumbles out. Close down Al Jazeera, interrogate the reporters until we find out where the bad guys live, and get them. What kind of a war is this ? Is this how our fathers would have fought WWII ? Let Hitler have a TV station, and a "safe" zone, next to the Joker's Lair ? This surge is a good thing. More is better.
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by trueprogress March 12, 2007 1:14 AM EDT
PS. This is not an economic issue.
Those guys driving the airplanes, slitting the throats of passengers, and sterwardess, and killing 300 innocent Americans ( wanting to kill more), were educated more than middle class. How many more architects, and engineers do you want to kill innocent people before you get off this stupid economic Maxist theory ( excuse ) ?
If only they had enough money , jobs, plasma TVs, they would be like us and would like us ! BLATHER.
We should be sending more troops, bomb the borders regions in Pakistan where they are hold up, sector by sector, see who stumbles out. Close down Al Jazeera, interrogate the reporters until we find out where the bad guys live, and get them. What kind of a war is this ? Is this how our fathers would have fought WWII ? Let Hitler have a TV station, and a "safe" zone, next to the Joker's Lair ? This surge is a good thing. More is better.
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by j-whitman March 12, 2007 1:48 AM EDT
Trueprogress,,
, Wouldn't it be cheaper by far just to send Bush & Cheney to those areas ??? --- They can Bullshiit & Scare them into surrendering.
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by j-whitman March 12, 2007 1:53 AM EDT
Trueprogress,,,, Hamiltongrad is a narrow minded ideaological idiot.... You want progress in Isreal ???? --- "Tear down these walls" that's what Reagan would have said..... Give them access to thier families & farms instead of confining them & denying them access... Support them forming thier own state & stop denying them thier money.
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by j-whitman March 12, 2007 1:56 AM EDT
Trueprogress,,,, You should change your screen name to Adolf, Truedenial, or Trueregression.
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by lieber1881 March 12, 2007 2:56 AM EDT
Loser-man,

I noticed that you are beginning to ape the anti-Semites who are revealing their true colors on this site. Nice. Even though you are an ignorant Bozo, I almost gave you the benefit of the doubt about being a Fascist. Don't have to, anymore, you are NO better than bluestarbigot, skybozo, Ex-Lax, or any of the other guys who probably have wet dreams about Hitler - and who probably LIE about their military service too - unless it was serving an enemy of the United States of America.

I'll repeat - United States of America, NOT Israel. Although Israel, like Britain, Australia and Canada represent good in the world, unlike your heroes like Fat Pig Hugo or Ahmedinejedad.

Well, sieg heil, sonny. Looks like you've subscribed to that screed - don't forget to seek out the other roach Karlim and see if he'll sign you up for Hamas.
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by rhs648 March 12, 2007 3:29 AM EDT
"Give them access to thier families & farms instead of confining them & denying them access... Support them forming thier own state & stop denying them thier money."
Posted by j-whitman

Absolutely! When the rockets and suicide bombers stop killing Israelis, the wall should be torn down. Until then, Israel must do whatever is necessary to secure itself. Just imagine the American reaction if we had this problem on our borders.
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by lars008-2009 March 12, 2007 4:33 AM EDT
there is no peace with fascist nazi islam....

dnc are like john adams and want to give their lunch money to fascist nazi islam hoping they will leave them alone...

gop are like thomas jefferson and want to use their lunch money to kick fascist nazi islam's arse......

Thomas Jefferson knew about fascist nazi islam..... he killed plenty of them....

In 1786 Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves. Jefferson reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:

The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan07/jeff_quran.htm
http://www.khouse.org/articles/2007/691/
http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/2002_winter_spring/terrorism.htm
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by randalds March 12, 2007 5:32 AM EDT
Absolutely! When the rockets and suicide bombers stop killing Israelis, the wall should be torn down. Until then, Israel must do whatever is necessary to secure itself. Just imagine the American reaction if we had this problem on our borders.
Posted by rhs648 at 12:29 AM : Mar 12, 2007

Israel is the problem, not the solution. They used a 2000 year old book of fairy tales to inflict themselves on the Palestinians who were already living in what is modern day Israel. OK they got away with it and realistically it's too late to change it. However until Israel at least acknowledges that it's nation was founded on a crime, on an illegal land grab, there can be nor should there be peace in that region! EVER! Recognize the right of Israel to exists yes, just as soon as the Israelis REALLY allows a Palestinian homeland in the Palistianians HOME country! A homeland without the Israelis flying missions over it to constantly murder innocent Palestinians and or destroy what they have built! the current homeland that Israel has allowed is nothing more then a large prison camp and an offense to anyone's god, even theirs!
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by randalds March 12, 2007 5:35 AM EDT
Posted by lars008 at 01:33 AM : Mar 12, 2007

So tell me lars, where you come from do you smoke your crank or snort it or inject it? Just wondering because you're obviously one of the heaviest drug users on this blog...nearly as much as your alter ego (and I suspect same person) singingslick.
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by karlimhof March 12, 2007 7:16 AM EDT
I noticed that you are beginning to ape the anti-Semites who are revealing their true colors on this site.

Well, sieg heil, sonny. Looks like you've subscribed to that screed - don't forget to seek out the other roach Karlim and see if he'll sign you up for Hamas.

Posted by Lieber1881


Liebersissy will not accept the fact that the majority of us are not anti-semitic, but rather anti-"zionist"israel.

The "zionist" being those political formations in israel which wish to impose expanded borders (taking land which is not theirs) at the expense of the Palestinian population. These parties, Likud/Katima run by Oldmutt and Nethanyahoo, continue to deny Palestinians the rights to their land, and to their right to live as free people.

I hope this unfortunate war in Iraq has allowed s Americans to see that the root of discord in the Middle East since 1947 is israel's continual refusal to recognize the legitimacy of Palestinian rights to their land and their independence.

Those, like lieberpussy, hide behind the worn out slogan of "anti-semitism", using it to try to stop all honest discussion and debate. Look only at what they tried to do to President Carter.

If we want to truely protect America, we have to make sure Palestinians receive justice.




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by lars008-2009 March 12, 2007 9:00 AM EDT
Israel is the problem, not the solution. They used a 2000 year old book of fairy tales to inflict themselves on the Palestinians who were already living in what is modern day Israel.
Posted by RandalDS at 02:32 AM : Mar 12, 2007

fascist nazi islam is the problem, not the solution. They used a 1400 year old book of fairy tales to inflict themselves on the non muslims who were already living in what is modern day Israel.

there fixed it haji..... btw israel is legal and was voted into existance by the un..... get over yourself haji....
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by lars008-2009 March 12, 2007 9:14 AM EDT
the root of discord in the Middle East since 1947 is israel's continual refusal to recognize the legitimacy of Palestinian rights to their land and their independence.
Posted by karlimhof at 04:47 AM : Mar 12, 2007

the root of discord in the Middle East since 1947 is fascist nazi islamic muslims continual refusal to recognize the legitimacy of israel's rights to their land and their independence.

there... fixed your mistake haji....
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by karlimhof March 12, 2007 10:33 AM EDT
there fixed it haji..... btw israel is legal and was voted into existance by the un..... get over yourself haji....
Posted by lars008

Lars will not accept the fact that the majority of us know israel was delcared a state in '47 and that we are not anti-semitic, but rather anti-"zionist"israel.

The "zionist" being those political formations in israel which wish to impose expanded borders (taking land which is not theirs) at the expense of the Palestinian population. These parties, Likud/Katima run by Oldmutt and Nethanyahoo, continue to deny Palestinians the rights to their land, and to their right to live as free people.

I hope this unfortunate war in Iraq has allowed s Americans to see that the root of discord in the Middle East since 1947 is israel's continual refusal to recognize the legitimacy of Palestinian rights to their land and their independence.

Those, like lieberpussy, hide behind the worn out slogan of "anti-semitism", using it to try to stop all honest discussion and debate. Look only at what they tried to do to President Carter.

If we want to truely protect America, we have to make sure Palestinians receive justice.

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by neoconrcrazy March 12, 2007 10:38 AM EDT
If we want to truely protect America, we have to make sure Palestinians receive justice.


Posted by karlimhof



that's true karlim - and i can tell that things are changing here cause everyone knows israel has been torturing palestinians for years-

even Sen. Chuck Hagel said israel has chained the palistians for decades and it has to stop.

israel is why the muslims hate us - we have to force israel to give back all the land they took!

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by lars008-2009 March 12, 2007 11:34 AM EDT
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by fbeji March 12, 2007 5:31 PM EDT
AMERI($rael)CA.
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