Giuliani Estranged From His 2 Children

Son And Daughter Of GOP Frontrunner Won't Participate In His Presidential Campaign

(CBS)  It doesn't look like Rudy Giuliani's two children will have a role in his presidential campaign. According to media reports, the GOP frontrunner's third marriage has alienated his son, Andrew, 21, and daughter, Caroline, 18, from their father.

Giuliani's 21-year-old son, Andrew, told The New York Times that he would be too busy working on his golf game to participate in his father's presidential campaign.

"There's obviously a little problem that exists between me and his wife," the younger Giuliani told the newspaper. "And we're trying to figure that out. But as of right now it's not working as well as we would like."

Giuliani's marriage to his third wife, Judith Nathan, followed his divorce from Donna Hanover, the mother of Andrew and Caroline.

In 2000, Giuliani announced during a live TV interview that he planned to divorce Hanover. She responded by publicly accusing Giuliani of adultery.

Caroline Giuliani has not spoken publicly, but the Times and New York's tabloid newspapers reported that she was also alienated from her father as a result of his marriage to Nathan.

The New York Daily News reported that Giuliani rarely spends time with his children and that he had failed to attend many important events in their lives, including Andrew's golf tournaments and Caroline's school plays.

Campaigning in Southern California on Monday, Giuliani asked for privacy to deal with the strained relationship with his children.

"My wife Judith is a very loving and caring ... mother and stepmother. She has done everything she can. The responsibility is mine," Giuliani said. "The more privacy I can have for my family, the better we are going to be able to deal with all these difficulties."

Andrew Giuliani is a sophomore at Duke and a member of the school's golf team. Caroline attends a private school in Manhattan. She will attend Harvard University in the fall.

Giuliani holds a huge lead in the polls over GOP presidential rival John McCain, but some political analysts believe the former New York mayor's estrangement from his children and other personal problems is bound to inflict political damage.

Political analyst Charles Cook told Newsday that the latest twist would hurt Giuliani with the GOP's conservative voters.

"This is just going to be one of a thousand cuts," Cook told the newspaper. "This will just sort of fit into a whole constellation of issues that work against someone winning a conservative party's nomination, a party that thinks of itself as a pro-family party. This just makes it really hard."

[random_radar]

If Giuliani wins the Republican nomination, we will have confirmed that family values is empty rhetoric in the Republican party.

It's time for the Neocons to show their true colors.

[hawksprings]

What's a neocon?

...

[frankly6]

Here's the GOP frontrunner with 3 marriages and a few afairs under his belt. He'll probably run under a family values ticket. Meanwhile, Republicans are still complaining about you-know-who's bl0wj0b.

[dogsoul]

As a conservative myself - I say that if Rudy did indeed cheat on his wife & left her for this other woman - and in the process severely strained relations with his children... then, by all means factor that into your assessment of his character w/ regard to his presidential bid. I would sincerely hope that conservatives don't go around saying, "...it's a personal matter..." or "...JFK did it too..." - and I certainly won't lend ANY credibility to any would-be liberal critics of this kind of behavior... let's face it folks, liberals can't touch this one - although I certainly wouldn't put it past their shameless hypocrisy to try... after all, they staunchly defended an accussed rapist, reknowned philanderer, and admitted adulterer who was having *** with the intern in the oval office while President of the United States of America.

Then again... that sort of underscores why conservatives have a problem with Giulani - he's anything but a Republican's republican - and some would argue, a liberal in conservative's clothing...

[smaeberry]

Under the circumstances I think Andrew spoke very honorably about his father and I respect him for that. My thought is to extend nothing but mercy to the son and daughter's position on the matter. It is what I would want.

[perception5]

Dear CBS, is this the start of your propaganda blitz "against" the three top GOP candidates for President in 2008????

Sure does look like it............CBS you're so predictable........and.......corrupt!

[imarltool2u]

a former mayor is running for president. Is that all that the republicans have? Anyone that would vote for an egomaniac like Giuliani should have their head examined. Because he walked around the twin towers site with a hankie over his mouth people think he's a leader?? LOL ROF ; Just wait until he divorces wife number 3. If you're a rightwing extremist southern baptist evangelical hatemongering rebel redneck you're not voting for a Northeast ethnic Yankee with a New York City accent.

[cantshutup]

usmcvn...you are absolutely right!!! thank you for speaking the truth!

[imarltool2u]

Lets have Ann Coulter run on the republican party ticket as the candidate for change, you know, like a uniter, not a divider. Just imagine how America would become the 4th Reich under a Cheney/Coulter ticket. Frightening to the extreme. The big tent republican party. Joyous. THey could have Jerry "I'd kill God to get to heaven" Falwell as secretary of (relgious) state.

[duffyn]

I'm with uscnvm on this one. I remember reading about him before 9/11. He was - while still married - bringing his girlfriend over to the house he and his wife were still living in when (the wife) was gone!

We gotta get over idolizing a public official who happens to be around when something terrible happens. Like bush & co were like rock stars after 9/11 and we sucked up every lie they told us. Yes, I do appreciate the service of the decent ones - and there are a few.

[dirtydog55]

ROFLMMFAO!! Here's a guy who can't manage his personal life and he expects US to let him manage the U.S and the FREE WORLD!

Get real, Rudy. Don't you think we have learned ANYTHING in the last six years?

[dogsoul]

"...a former mayor is running for president. Is that all that the republicans have?"

I dunno, at face value... the very popular & former multi-term mayor of NYC sounds a lot more savvy than....saaaay.... Governor of Arkansas? After all, NYC has about 3 times the population & I'm guessing several more times the GDP - but hey, who's counting?

Rudy's not exactly an ideal candidate from conservatives' perspectives... but that's also what makes him viable - because he's quite liberal on many issues & can possibly take away some Democratic strongholds. That being said, I'd agree the Republicans don't have very strong candidates - but Hillary & Obama might prove to bit out there enough for Dems to mess up this election...

[gangesdak]

The same children who would not show any interest for their famous father's campaign will sure take advantage of their relation to their father if Rudi becomes the President. These children appear to be quite engrossed in their own life, and proved themselves to be selfish. This is not a case of lack of family value in the Republican party. I am not a Republican. But it is sad that Rudi has to underatake this marathon campaign without the help of his own flesh and blood. I hope his children come to their senses soon.

[joanpz]

Hey, QUIT THIS PARTISAN TALK - any person writing to these columns IS SPEAKING FOR WHAT IS *GOOD FOR THE U.S.A.* - many a question occurred after 9/11 - *1, all PLANE HIJACKERS WERE IN THE U.S. and flew out of BOSTON, not SAUDI ARABIA or AFGHANISTAN! *2 - ON A GIVEN DAY, AS 9/11, 30,000 PERSONS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE WTC - HOW COME ONLY 5,000 - *3 - NEW YORKERS SAY GUILIANI *TOOK THE DAY OFF*, why? *4 - After 1st plane hit, why the SURPRISE THAT A 2nd, 3, even a 4th WOULD BE COMING IN - *5 - Why did GW BUSH SIT GAZING - EIGHT MINUTES - AT A PAGE IN A FLORIDA KINDERGARTEN - *6 - HOW ABOUT THE IMPLOSION OF ALL SUPPORTING STRUCTURES - *7 - This WTC HAD BEEN RE-DESIGNED AFTER THE 1993 BOMBING TO *WITHSTAND* PLANES AIMED AT DESTRUCTING THE WTC -
*9 - Why DIDN*T RUMSFELD THINK THE PENTAGON WOULD BE NEXT - *10 - GUESS THE QUESTION WAS WHAT MADE *CHENEY* ACT AS PRESIDENT and GW BUSH LIKE A *COWBOY* FLYING FROM STATE TO STATE!
New Yorks say: STAY AWAY FROM GUILIANI HE HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING FOR THEM - OR HIS KIDS, NOW!
THIS WRITER IS AN INDEPENDENT VOTER WHO HAS A HARD TIME CHOOSING FROM THE *FRONT RUNNERS* OF EITHER PARTY!
A third party? -- WOULD DEFINITELY BE MORE DEMOCRATIC!

[dogsoul]

"ROFLMMFAO!! Here's a guy who can't manage his personal life and he expects US to let him manage the U.S and the FREE WORLD!"

I agree you should criticize Rudy for this, but how YOU can say this while in the same breath make excuses for Clinton can only be described as dripping liberal hypocrisy...

[frankly6]

Rudy will, no doubt, run on the family values platform. He's definitely family oriented. After all, he's started at least three families so far.

[rharrin1]

How can anybody say anything about this while they still support the idiot in the oval office???????????

[observantx]

It doesn't look like Rudy Giulani's two children will have a role in his presidential campaign.

So the spin machines start revving up early. Expect more of this triviality from our press instead of consistent, in-depth, fact based reporting.

If this is what passes for "free press" nowadays, I can't see any difference from having "no press".

I guess the Anna Nicole and Brittany stories are winding down, so another tempest in a teapot has to be splashed over the MSM ad nauseum.

[oleander8]

gangesdak - fathers having very little contact with their children after a divorce is as common as dirt. They divorce the kids right along with the mother. This causes real emotional problems for the kids. Giuliani, you reap what you sow.

[oleander8]

[...it really IS amazing to me to hear those same liberals...Posted by dogsoul ]

Liberals don't march in lock-step. Liberals who disapprove of Guiliani probably disapproved of Clinton. Liberals have minds of their own.

[stevex47]

dogsoul,

Aww are the dems getting to you? Too bad. Get used to it. Oh, and as far as ***, you guys screwed yourselves. But nice try yet again, trying to blame the dems for your own misfortunes.
We plan to heckle reich wingers for a long time for their trespasses. A very long time.

[gdmoore2]

Poor Republicans, so pure they cannot find a candidate. Live by ideology, die by ideology. Perhaps a dinosaur would be a better mascot.

[gangesdak]

Maybe. Rudi would be wrong if he had dumped his children. But the children may not be lillywhite either. Statistics show that in majority of cases it is the children who destroy the second (!) marriage of their parents, and always for selfish reasons. Rudi's children are not ten year olds; they do not belong to the "vulnarable" group. Anyway, we do not know the real story. It is still sad that the father lost something important.

[scott4261]

Lieber1881,

You need a therapist.

[ajaxrose1]

Just another case of applying higher standards to the opponents of whatever party you belong to. If he was a Democrat the Republicans would get after him. Blah-blah-blah...

The fact is he isn't the only butt-wipe to get a divorce from the mother of his children and then ignore the children too. My own sons haven't even heard from their "donor" for about six years and that's by HIS choice. He's never been denied access or visitation or anything that the father of children has a right to. He simply chooses not to be part of their lives. I don't give a rat's hind-end what the problems between the parents are, you call your kids, if at no other time, at least on their freaking birthdays. It doesn't have a thing in the world to do with any political affiliation. A butt's a butt.

The consolation is that someday these stupid human beings (that cast off their own off-spring like they mean nothing) WILL be sorry that something or someone else was more important to them. Their loss.

[lanaedawn]

"but the shameless hypocrisy of liberals taking this stance after having staunchly defended Clinton with every imagineable excuse boggles the imagination!"


Actually, the Republicans will use this against him so he won't get the party vote more than the liberals, hence the last line:

"This will just sort of fit into a whole constellation of issues that work against someone winning a conservative party's nomination, a party that thinks of itself as a pro-family party. This just makes it really hard."

How can he be a good representative of the Republican party when he obviously doesn't stand for family values, is what they'll say.

It took me a long time to take to my dad's new partner after he and my mother divorced. Its immature and irresponsible of the children to speak so freely to the press about private matters. Especially children that were raised in politics. You've never heard any of the Bush children (George of Jeb's), Chelsea Clinton, Mary Cheney, the Kerry girls, etc. speak badly abotu their parents no matter what their differences or their feelings about their parents.

[dogsoul]

"Poor Republicans, so pure they cannot find a candidate. Live by ideology, die by ideology. Perhaps a dinosaur would be a better mascot. "

I agree Republicans don't have a very strong candidate... but I'd also submit that Dems DO have strong candidates - "strong" in the sense of odorously unideological, i.e. it may be more pragmatic for conservatives to run a very liberal Republican about whom people feel somewhat amibiguous than Democrats placing all their eggs into the Obama Hillary basket...

[lieber1881]

scotty,

how's your boyfriend skippy these days? I heard "his" real name is Mark Foley!

LOL

Enjoy the Steppin' and Shrew feud, little feigele.

[scott4261]

Hey Leiber1881,

Grow up, you worm! Personal attacks are uncalled for here. But if you persist, the gloves are off. And just so you know, I've already reported you, so you'd better watch it!

[scott4261]

First of all, Rudy Guiliani was the unpopular mayor of New York on 09/10/2001. He didn't morph into "America's Mayor" until 09/11/2001. A previous poster was right. The real heroes are the emergency workers who put their lives on the line on 9/11 and the aftermath.

Second, I'm so sick of hearing from the wingnuts here of the "liberal hypocrisy" of those posters who have a problem with Guiliani. Bill Clinton has absolutely nothing to do with this (but as usual, any discussion of ANY Republican's shortcomings leads straight to Clinton's pants). Do you righties know that Guiliani was staying with a gay couple following his separation and divorce from Donna Hanover? Such a revelation is not a big deal in New York City, but will not play well with Republican voters in the heartland. You people are so desperate for a hero to rescue your floundering party that many of you are willing to nominate this guy. I say good riddance! He's got rotten character and finally the rest of the world is beginning to see what a scumbag he really is.

And believe me, I DO take great pleasure in saying that you can bank on a Democratic landslide in 2008! I cannot wait to take my country back from, yes, you hypocrites!

[perception5]

"I have problems with my father," Andrew told ABC. "But it doesn't mean he won't make a great President."

.......If Ronald Reagan was alive today we could all hear him saying ..."Well......CBS there you go again."

Looks like CBS managed to somehow miss or "censored" some of the comments from Rudy's son Andrew........if Americans want the whole story......please see Drudge report

CBS, keep up the propaganda........but you are losing even more creditablity as a "news organizaiotn"

[scott4261]

......please see Drudge report

CBS, keep up the propaganda........but you are losing even more creditablity as a "news organizaiotn"

Posted by perception5 at 01:24 PM

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And the Drudge Report is NOT propaganda? Oh, come on! You people are seriously delusional!

[perception5]

And the Drudge Report is NOT propaganda? Oh, come on! You people are seriously delusional!
Posted by scott4261 at 01:27 PM : Mar 05, 2007

...sick4261, can you explain why CBS didn't "include" this quote in "their" story???? I'm sure you have a good reason....

[karlimhof]

This is really great and portrays the gops "values" perfectly -

Their top candidate: 3 wives, broken family, what's next?

This politically driven neocon party has hanged itself! Good riddens.

[scott4261]

...sick4261, can you explain why CBS didn't "include" this quote in "their" story???? I'm sure you have a good reason....

Posted by perception5 at 01:29 PM

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Whatever..... Drudge is nothing but a right wing hack who has been inflicting his propaganda on us for far too long. And BTW, I have a name. If you wanna call me sick, pardon me if I call you a delusional nutcase.

[marcodele]

I'm still trying to figure out what Guiliani did to become a "hero" on 9/11 ????

Two estranged kids: typical Republican family values. Maybe Jeb can jump in with his drug addict daughter and publicly intoxicated son.

[perception5]

Whatever..... Drudge is nothing but a right wing hack who has been inflicting his propaganda on us for far too long. And BTW, I have a name. If you wanna call me sick, pardon me if I call you a delusional nutcase.
Posted by scott4261 at 01:38 PM : Mar 05, 2007

.......sick4261, you're not getting it..... the quote from Andrew was from "ABC news" and published by Drudge........... do you understand now???
So......... why did CBS "censor" it from "their" story?????

[hollyt2-2009]

I personally really dont care if he is estranged from his kids. But prepare because that was made into such a Big issue with Anna N and her mom Vergy. not that Im Vergys fan but people didnt say she was worthy or a caring Mom because she was estranged from Anna. So does that mean Rudy doesnt love or care for his kids?

[scott4261]

.......sick4261, you're not getting it..... the quote from Andrew was from "ABC news" and published by Drudge........... do you understand now???
So......... why did CBS "censor" it from "their" story?????
Posted by perception5 at 01:41

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First of all, delusional nutcase, that doesn't prove a thing. ABC uses the Drudge report as a source, which is one reason you can't trust them. And, FYI, I don't blindly trust CBS by any stretch. CBS has it's own biases (and yes, some are from the right). Doesn't matter though...you wingnuts just won't believe anything that stands in the way of your own self-constructed "reality."

Go crawl back under your rock.

[m3101-2009]

HOW SAD ! ! Seems all you RIGHT-WING WATERGATERS just continue to have your dirty linen become exposed ! Now, you are having to deal with your FORNICATING (Family Values?) BOY RUDI G., I also seem to remember another FORNICATOR (Family Values?) character by the name of Newt Gingrich, who chose to announce his DIVORCE PLANS from his ILL Spouse while visiting her lying in a hospital bed !

It seem's you've seen one of those 'RASCALS', you've seen'um all !!!

[gwagener]

Patty Davis & Ron Reagan Jr.
Amy Carter
GW and Jeb Bush
Chelsea Clinton
Jenna and Barbara Bush
Other than GWB bringing in the evangelical Christian vote for GHWB, I don't know that any child of the candidte has made much difference.
If Giuliani's kids said their father had the morals of a rutting pig, that might make a difference, but not liking the stepmother? Actually liking the stepmother is exceedingly rare, especially with a divorse.

[scott4261]

I've also heard that Newt Gingrich is another possiblity to run for the GOP nomination. Another hypocrite who gave his wife her divorce papers while she was in the hospital. What great family values! I couldn't make this stuff up!

[dallison7]

Sure does look like it............CBS you're so predictable........and.......corrupt!

n
Posted by perception5


*** RIGHT!! AND THAT GOES FOR ABC, NBC, CNN, BBC AND THE REST OF THEM!!

THE ONLY NEWS NETWORK THAT IS NOT 'PREDICTABLE AND CORRUPT IS FAUX NEWS!!!


ROFLMAO!!!

[dogsoul]

"Just another preaching republican who doesn't walk the walk. Haven't we had enough of these right wing republicans and their idiology. The party of god. Not everyone has the same beliefs as the republicans but if you don't than your not a good person or your mororally hollow."

Without stating the obvious, shall we say, "limitations" of this particular poster... I would only add that Giuliani is FAR far from a "right winger" - in fact, he's pro-abortion, pro gay marriage, and pro a number of other liberal issues... that's why Republicans have a problem with this guy.

[dogsoul]

Liberals liberals... let's get one thing straight - you have absolutely zero ground to stand on when it comes to criticizing a politician for his adulterous behavior or otherwise harming his family by his actions. Not unless you were among the 7 or so liberals who didn't go about making all sorts of excuses for Bill Clinton's behavior.

Now, conservatives on the other hand - let's face it... a President's character (or lack thereof) IS something we Republican's have to take into consideration - Democrat's generally don't care, at least when it's one of their guys. We need to consider whether or not Giuliani's character is something we want in a United States President... of course, if it comes down to a choice between supporting Giuliani or surrendering to Hillary or Obama - we may be better served to select from among the least evil of those options - and therefore may need to comprise some of our values in order that we not face more dire consequences with the alternatives...

[pfoster4]

I am a republican and will say that there is no one in the presidential race - democratic or republican that I would bother to get out and vote for. If this is what I have to choose the best from, I will stay home or go shopping.

[scott4261]

dogsoul,

NO ONE is making excuses for Bill Clinton's behavior. In fact, he has no relevance to this story. Those of you on the right are constantly pointing to the stain on Monica's dress, though. I don't care that Guiliani is on his third marriage or that he shacked up with a couple of gay men after he separated from Donna Hanover! I don%u2019t care! But Guiliani has a reputation as a strong-armed bully with New Yorkers since way before 9/11, and it seems his family life has not exactly been harmonious, either. I think the independent and liberal bloggers here (myself included in that number) are rightly pointing out the blatant hypocrisy here.

[williamfold]

The RIGHT. Everthing that's just plain wrong with this country, and then some.

[scott4261]

If we can get Paster TED to turn Democrat we can make the Oval Office intern in 2008!! Gee, I wonder if he could fit under neath the desk???
Posted by usmcvn at 02:25 PM

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Perish the thought! Two faced hypocrites like him are a symptom of the problem here.

[notohillary]

GO RUDY!!!