March 4, 2007

Terrorists Take Recruitment Efforts Online

Scott Pelley On The Use Of The Internet To Recruit Jihadists

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Asked how he would describe what he does, Weisburd tells Pelley, "Part of it is, you know, rodeo clown, essentially. I jump into the ring and make the bulls angry and they come after me. And I do that to good effect. That's my own particular expertise, if you will."

"Tell me about that," Pelley says.

"Well, the Irhabi 007 case comes to mind. I simply publicized what he was saying, made fun of him, called him out and it worked," Weisburd says.

Irhabi 007 was the networking genius who helped al Qaeda regroup online after the U.S. forced them out of Afghanistan. With an ego to match, he was a legend in his own mind.

This is the kind of thing Irhabi 007 made possible for al Qaeda, posting videos long before it was common on YouTube.

"Well, he solved problems. They had content distribution. They had problems moving large files, he solved that problem," Weisburd explains.

He solved it by hacking into computers around the world and using them to store and share terrorist files. He even got into a computer system owned by the Arkansas Department of Transportation.

The Arkansas terror files were discovered and removed. And in 2005, so was Irhabi 007. Scotland Yard, raided a London house in a terrorism case involving credit card fraud. They arrested a 22-year-old Moroccan named Younis Tsouli. Later they discovered Tsouli was Terrorist 007. The network administrator was off line, but his network is still pulling recruits into jihad.

"If you want to go wage jihad, you've got to let them know that there's a jihad going on and lead them to believe that this is something they want to be involved in. And so these videos are essentially, you know, all recruitment films, you know, join the army, seen wonderful places, kill people," Weisburd says.

"I don't think anyone knew that the Internet is going to become so important," says Rita Katz, who has made cyber war her business.

In a secret location, somewhere in the U.S., she runs the Site Institute, a private firm hired by the U.S. government and major corporations to monitor terrorist activities on the Web – activities like those in chat rooms where thousands of Internet surfers meet online.

How does she infiltrate these chat rooms?

"You pretend to be one of them. You try to convince them that you are part of this community. And that's how you do it. And you communicate with them online," Katz explains.

She logged onto a jihadi site for 60 Minutes to demonstrate how many people were online. One forum had 17,869 members.

Katz’s Arabic speaking staff has invented jihadi personalities who are part of the conversation in terror chat rooms. Online, sometimes they see terror operations in the making.

"It happened just in April that one of the most important members of the forum was going to commit his suicide operation. He posed a message saying 'This is the last time I’m communicating with you my turn had arrived.' And to us it was an indication that’s he's going on his suicide operation," Katz recalls.

Asked if they ever saw him again online, Katz says, "We were able to track down his IP address, meaning identify the location that he was signing with his computer and contacted the authorities in his jurisdiction and they actually arrested him as he was boarding a plane to Afghanistan."

How can a Web site convince someone to kill themselves? Well, part of the inspiration comes from Abu Musab al Suri. A 49-year-old Syrian, a sort of warrior-philosopher, he is among the most important teachers of global jihad.

"His message is, 'Let's understand what kind of a jihad we want. And, he basically laid down the strategy of al Qaeda," Katz explains.

He laid it down in his 1,600 page encyclopedia, “The Call For Global Islamic Resistance," which he wrote while running a training camp in Afghanistan.

"It's all about guerilla warfare, who to target, what kind of bomb, you know, how you set up your target," Katz explains.

Al Suri videotaped 15 hours of lectures. He urges students to study bomb making and calls for killing on a grand scale. He’s a powerful influence on the Web today, even though he’s been in U.S. Custody since 2005.

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by carlwebb March 2, 2007 4:45 PM PST
Where is the report on how the US terror regime recruits by using biased media reports like this one.


Carl Webb
http://carlwebb.net
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by evotelution March 3, 2007 10:41 PM PST
It takes six years for America's top intellgence officer to realize "It's a battle of perceptions?" Consider his gross neglegence. He could have suggested we enter a propoganda campaign right away and leveraged the patriotism that had swept our nation after 9-11 and shared that with the rest of the world to educate, reconstruct, and agree. Yet his community under his watch has sullied the greatest generations good name recognition and so the baby boomers can add this to their list of accomplished along with "traiting" away their parents capital base.
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by migrainegram March 4, 2007 7:15 AM PST
Where is the report on how the US terror regime recruits by using biased media reports like this one.
Carl Webb
http://carlwebb.net

Scroll through the information at www.memri.org, look at the videos, and then, with all due respect for your opinion, explain why the 60 Minutes report should be unbiased.
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by uncle40times March 4, 2007 7:32 PM PST
Thanks so much for reporting Terrost Tactics, it no doubt will wake up all Americans, that we ALL
MUST stick together on the Issue of Terrorism, again Thank you for reporting on this a new Light for all viewers to see & shed some new light this Heartwrenching subject! GOD Bless you all! Nick! B.
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by mtlion70 March 4, 2007 7:59 PM PST
Thank God for citizens like Aaron Weisburd and Rita Katz, America needs more people like them. How about some of you hackers, why not use your skill and saavy to find terrorists instead of causing havoc for businesses? Now there's a real challenge for you.
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by minutes4u March 4, 2007 8:24 PM PST
LIES LIES LIES LIES. No research was done or they would realize that Al Zarkawi was a government patsy. This has got to be the biggest load of craaap I have ever seen. Is 60 minutes now in the business of spreading propaganda. The American people are not stupid and we are tired of this B.S. I have lost all respect for 60 minutes. As a failfull viewer for over 25 years I will find something better to do on Sunday. Goodluck sellouts
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by minutes4u March 4, 2007 8:30 PM PST
They don't even have electricity in Iraq but we are suppose to believe Al Caieda has laptops in caves with wireless transmission....lol...give me a break. Who writes this stuff!

This is a total government propaganda hit piece to take our internet away....trust me...they have been planning on way to restict our the internet and they will use this B.S. to do it....wake up America

www.prisonplanet.tv
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by briansmonaha March 4, 2007 8:31 PM PST
All we need to do is have a computer whiz make a program that we can download on our computers that runs while we are not using our computer and goes to all these web sites and jambs them up with millions of us loged on to the sites. Each person could take certin sites by last name. Then we can devide them up so all of them are jammed all the time and beat them at there own game. Exploit what they use as a strength and make it there weakness. Good old American THINKING!!!!
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by ffmeyers-2009 March 4, 2007 8:33 PM PST
Aaron/Rita,

I am a PC, network, & web literate former LEO. How can I help?

frankme
frank@ulaca.org
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by fascistusa March 4, 2007 9:01 PM PST
WE LIVE IN A FASCIST COUNTRY.

AMERICA IS FASCIST

THE ELITE OWN AND RUN THE "NEWS".

OUR MAINSTREAM NEWS IS PROPAGANDA.

THE AMAZING PART IS HOW POWERFUL THE PROPAGANDA IS. MORONS.
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by sonoma57 March 4, 2007 9:02 PM PST
Not so long ago I wrote to some politicians, including a Senator running for President, about this very subject. You can't beat an ideology with guns, tanks, and ground forces! The only way to fight this war is to generate doubt in their convictions using the media and the Quran in pointing out how they are being used by others. Still haven't seen too many senior terrorist leaders seeking martyrdom themselves. Must be a short supply of virgins in heaven!
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by hypnotoad72 March 4, 2007 9:06 PM PST
No doubt there are groups in America who use it to talk to one another, but I think the article is a little on the scare-tactic side.

With all the measures put into place and how peoples' connections are LOGGED by ISPs (and now mandated by federal law if I recall correctly), there is little anyone needs to worry about. If some b******* wants to talk about blowing things up via the internet, the sites visited are a giveaway. Heck, with all the lawsuits the RIAA has filed against folks who share music files over the "anonymous" peer sessions, it's being tracked and the real troublemakers are being gone after.

Relax, folks. There is nothing to be paranoid about.
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by h0rseracer05 March 4, 2007 9:30 PM PST
The United States has no time to lose in the Battle for control of the Internet. We should be Jamming, Hacking taking them out of the game. I would think the NSA would have the ability to do just that. They rely on a log in process just as we do........In the National Interest Microsoft should be helping.


Those opposed to the War need to realize their antics are Killing Our Sons and Daughters. The Janes, Barbaras, Seans, Pelosis and the Merthas are contributing also.............This is Treason and should be dealt with firmly. The American People hate it.

Let's Sound Off to the World, These IDIOTS don't speak for America...........

If we want our young people in uniform home, we must prevail................
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by h0rseracer05 March 4, 2007 9:40 PM PST
Having read the comments about this issue, I'm amazed at how the detractors are committed to destroy our Country................

To: minutes4u, fascistusa, lOVE IT OR LEAVE IT..
You feel so strongly, join them and leave us....
Perhaps your head would be the next one they remove..............You too are propaganda for them, keep looking to the left, the right sure doesn't need you.................
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by memanni March 4, 2007 11:02 PM PST
The facts are more importantly the Mohammedans built on the wrong rock. The rock of the Holy of Holies (where Abraham%u2019s son event would have taken place) is 330 feet north of the current location of the Dome of the Rock. Take a tape measurer follow the measurements given by the prophet Ezekiel and the Apostle John, two eye witnesses; this will confirm biblical text which states the doorway to the Temple faces the Golden Gate, the Dome of the Rock does not.
Ezekiel chapters 8, 10, 39, 40 and 43

Think about it, Jihad for a building which is not even in the right location, what else is off-center to the truth.

Oh, yea it is this; the 10 Tribes were deported from Samaria to Assyria, currently Turkey, Syria and Afghanistan. The two tribes were deported from Jerusalem to Babylon, currently Iraq.
Further, for those who understand Revelation 2 & 3, the 7 churches are all in Turkey currently Islamic states, meaning the DNA scattered there is still there and running through the veins of the young men and young women.
The angel Gabriel prophesied that in the twenty-first century terror would arise; the process is one of identifying the wheat (good) from the chaff (evil), hence 911.

Culpability is a strange animal, as we continue to walk in miss information we are all culpable to the deaths of the young on all sides.

I salute those in the article who are working towards revealing the truth of the error.
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by bildooreilly March 5, 2007 12:08 AM PST
A couple years ago a bunch of people traced all of the "al qaida" websites back to a company called Everyones Internet in Houston Texas, owned by a good friend of the bush family, Roy Marsh I believe his name is... Go look it up. People that know how the net works aren't stupid, we can find stuff like this out easily. You can figure out where any internet site is hosted at simply by doing a whois at a registrar or doing a tracert in DOS..

Well anyways, nobody is promoting this stuff more than our own mainstream media here. They're making them famous like they talk about. What easier way to be a rockstar, reminds me of when they came out with rap music, crack cocaine, and gangstas... they promote the ***, they sell it, they profit from it. Media/gov what a scam...
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by annefrank10 March 5, 2007 12:40 AM PST
Personally, I find little difference in the online videos enticing Islamic extremists and the U.S. Army videos that young kids watch and emulate....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wurt2rqmUr0

Even Christians sell violent video games that kill Muslims! These games teach our young kids to devalue life as they kill, kill, kill one Muslim and "bad guy" after another - so that by the time they're 19 years old and in the Army in a war of choice - they shoot innocents, rape and murder them - without a second thought!

We are no different from Muslim extremists in ideology. We've become a very militarized nation - and defen$e contractors and panelists on Fox News associated with rightwing think tanks filled with defense contractors and former military - are happy to see wars of choice!!
And will do whatever it takes to keep Americans {{{fearful}}} - to justify more wars.
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by cwemde March 5, 2007 12:49 AM PST
I'm sorry but I just shake the feeling I have regarding just who is leading the charge against these online Islamic Jihad recruiters. Both Aaron Weisburd and Rita Katz are Jewish. Weisburd's website Haganah (Hebrew for the "defense") seems Zionist. What's really going on? Are we (USA) the target of Islamic terrorism because of our support of Israel? I'm not an anti semite but who's war is it? When the discussion of world politics, especially regarding the Middle East, my father would always say "Israel...that's where World War III begins..."
The Arabs and Jews hate each other -so it seems. There is a powerful Jewish lobby in America. It all adds up...
Its sad that history often repeats itself.
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by cwemde March 5, 2007 12:53 AM PST
I'm sorry but I just shake the feeling I have regarding just who is leading the charge against these online Islamic Jihad recruiters. Both Aaron Weisburd and Rita Katz are Jewish. Weisburd's website Haganah (Hebrew for the "defense") seems Zionist. What's really going on? Are we (USA) the target of Islamic terrorism because of our support of Israel? I'm not an anti semite but who's war is it? When the discussion of world politics, especially regarding the Middle East, my father would always say "Israel...that's where World War III begins..."
The Arabs and Jews hate each other -so it seems. There is a powerful Jewish lobby in America. It all adds up...
Its sad that history often repeats itself.
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by bellal-2009 March 5, 2007 1:01 AM PST
Wow. speechless.
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by fascistusa March 5, 2007 2:16 AM PST
h0rseracer05-

Eat ***. YOUR GOVERNMENT LIES TO YOU.

YOUR GOVERNMENT LIES TO YOU.

OUR COUNTRY IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.

IF PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAD INTELLIGENCE AND BALLS WE WOULDN"T BE IN THIS MESS.

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by gaijin6 March 5, 2007 5:53 AM PST
I believe that people like Aaron Weisburd are doing an incredible job. Thank you so much Mr Weisburd and Ms. Katz for helping to keep us safe. This nation is forever in your debt.
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by gaijin6 March 5, 2007 5:56 AM PST
I believe that people like Aaron Weisburd are doing an incredible job. Thank you so much Mr Weisburd and Ms. Katz for helping to keep us safe. This nation is forever in your debt.
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by rohink-2009 March 5, 2007 6:43 AM PST
You can't fight bad religion with no religion.
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by bluestardad March 5, 2007 8:00 AM PST
JEWS AND SAUDI ARABIAN RECRUITMENT OF CONGRESS ON LINE!

Saudi Arabia is supporting the Sunni insurgents and al Qaeda in Iraq. The Bush administration is funding Iran Contra style, al Qaeda in Lebanon! Everyone knows that the Saudi Royal Family is a family friend of Bushs and that puts him at odds with American national interest! Israeli Neocons are pushing the Bush administration to attack Iran. The Blind support of Israel is ruining Americas credibility as a negotiator in the Middle East. Afghanistan is falling apart because this administration has pulled assets from that theater of war. The longer we interject American military and money in the Middle East the longer the problems will exists. If America pulls out of the Middle East then the countries will have to work out their differences between themselves and true peace will be achieved. Israeli lobbying groups are selling access to American elected officials as you can see in their lobbying group advertisement below. Israeli Neocons are causing our Elected officials to fight their wars in Proxy! Follow the money see how many Congressmen are influenced by AIPAC money and how they are voting on Iraq!

http://www.aipac.org/forms/join_aipacClubs.htm

Bush Funds Al Qaeda here is the stream read it yourself!

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/070305fa_fact_hersh


Write your Representatives and Senators! http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

House Speakers email address: AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov


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by navychief8 March 5, 2007 8:11 AM PST
annefrank10,
Even Christians sell violent video games that kill Muslims! These games teach our young kids to devalue life as they kill, kill, kill one Muslim and "bad guy" after another - so that by the time they're 19 years old and in the Army in a war of choice - they shoot innocents, rape and murder them - without a second thought!

Your assessment is a bit shallow. As a member of the armed forces idon't kill and rape inocent people. Kids playing video games is not a lot different from kids of previouls era who went outside and played army or cowboys and indians. Did you have sthe same opinion in the 60's and 70's before computers and PS2 were around? An Army recruitment video (or any other service for that matter) can hardly be compared to a torrorist recruitment video. Armed Forces Recruitment promos emphasis learning technology and bettering yourself. So tell me how they are the same?
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by bluestardad March 5, 2007 8:20 AM PST
CONGRESS RECRUITED ON LINE BY JEWS AND SAUDI

Saudi Arabia is supporting the Sunni insurgents and al Qaeda in Iraq. The Bush administration is funding Iran Contra style, al Qaeda in Lebanon! Everyone knows that the Saudi Royal Family is a family friend of Bushs and that puts him at odds with American national interest! Israeli Neocons are pushing the Bush administration to attack Iran. The Blind support of Israel is ruining Americas credibility as a negotiator in the Middle East. Afghanistan is falling apart because this administration has pulled assets from that theater of war. The longer we interject American military and money in the Middle East the longer the problems will exists. If America pulls out of the Middle East then the countries will have to work out their differences between themselves and true peace will be achieved. Israeli lobbying groups are selling access to American elected officials as you can see in their lobbying group advertisement below. Israeli Neocons are causing our Elected officials to fight their wars in Proxy! Follow the money see how many Congressmen are influenced by AIPAC money and how they are voting on Iraq!

http://www.aipac.org/forms/join_aipacClubs.htm

Bush Funds Al Qaeda here is the stream read it yourself!

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/070305fa_fact_hersh


Write your Representatives and Senators! http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

House Speakers email address: AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov
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by cpjl1 March 5, 2007 8:33 AM PST
The perception of Iraq is that we are not winning we are losing. This is in part from media reporting, but in the main because of the ability to download uncensored images from the Internet.

I cannot understand why UK and US forces are not uploading positive images onto You Tube and Live Link, showing the schools which are working, the hospitals which are working, the Police who are working, the Iraqi Army who are working.

As for Al Qaeda, we'll see in the coming months, they might have volunteers prepared to die for the cause. The job of the UK, US, Canadian and Dutch soldiers amongst others is to enable that to happen.
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by lieber1881 March 5, 2007 8:44 AM PST
Aaaaah,

Isn't it nice that Jew-haters like Bluestarbigot - who had described himself as a former US Army officer - yeah, right, and Cmmwyrd - or whatever the Islamonazi's name is come right out of the woodwork when it comes to Al Qaeda - and presumably their support for the scum.

Let's blame it on Israel and Dem Jooz, not those who were responsible for 9/11 or the beheadings, or the Madrid and London and Bali and Kenya bombings, nor the slavery and slaughter in the Sudan. Bluestarbigot, if he were truly an Army officer - and he might be, is a traitor if he can't figure out who the real enemy is.

But the Jooz are such a convienent scapegoat. Pity the poor Palestinians and never mind they behave worst than innocent animals. The Joozs are at fault.

Let me tell you this - outside of the Judenrats out there, guys like Soros who was a Nazi Collaborator during the Holocaust, or Howard Zinn who regrets bombing Nazis during WWII but has never expressed regret for being a Stalinist, it is devout Jews - and Christians trying to save us all from the beheadings, from the hajibis, from Sharia.

It is a shame that under a coward like Olmert, Israel isn't the same as it once was. Otherwise, I can also assure you that we wouldn't have to worry about Al Qaeda or Iran. Bigot and his traitor friends aren't even fit to shine the shoes of guys like Wolfowitz, Feith or Perle.
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by inventagod March 5, 2007 9:20 AM PST
The religo-nazis on this board are frothing at the mouth, hoping to spread their rabid self-loathing to each other. You are completely missing the point of the news story while you are engaging in the mad-dog back-biting and whining. My guess is the p*ssing and moaning will continue until the Bu$h administration shuts down the internet in the name of 'freedom', and then it will be too late...
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by crater7 March 5, 2007 9:23 AM PST
THERE IS A PLUS SIDE TO THIS STORY. IF THE TERRORIST, CAN RECRUIT ON THE WEB, THIS ADMINISTRATION SHOULD BE SMART ENOUGH (YOU THINK) TO USE THESE SITES, AS A TOOL TO GO UNDER COVER BY POSING AS A POSSIBLE RECRUIT. MAYBE SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO WRITE THESE COMMENTS ON THIS SITE WOULD GLADLY VOLUNTEER TO INFILTRATE THESE ORGANIZATIONS. MOST ALL HAVE A VERY GOOD LINE OF BULL SH** .
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by neojoker March 5, 2007 9:29 AM PST
Yes, they can weed out those mangy speakeasy *** offenders, but Al Queda blantantly recruiting on the net is just too much for them. It's all just a contrived freak show, for our benefit and manipulation.
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by grumpas March 5, 2007 9:36 AM PST
Lieber1881 You are the one ignoring the truth!!!!! Israel is like the US they have squandered a lot of good will over the years by behaving very badly! By proving to the world they aren't the innocent nation they claim to be! They took the damned country away from the Palestinian's in 1948 and now they are whining because they have suicide bombers! Well....dah!!!! What did they expect....the Palestinian's to love them for the gesture????? We all know who the enemy is...it's al quaeda!!! It's to bad George Bush didn't know who it was when he invaded Iraq! Maybe he could have saved lives and billions in wasted tax dollars by fighting al quaeda insteading of wasting his time on Iraq! I have a damned clear picture of who and what the problem in the middle east is! I for one am fed up with having to take care of Israel so they can survive as a nation! If they can't do it by themselves then so be it! But, it's time for us to start worrying about our own survival not Israel's!
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by jetlagsa March 5, 2007 9:59 AM PST
bluestardad-you think the arabs will settle their differences and live in peace??just spent 16 years there and here's a big news update: it won't happen, now or ever, without democracy. where do you live? fantasyland?democracy paired with capitalism is still the best form of government to date. if you have a better and PROVEN method, let us all know.democracy forces education, which in turn brings knowledge and then low and behold, TOLERANCE.i know the arabs very well and i can assure you there will be no working it out among themselves without democracy. they have had a couple thousand years to work it out and i haven't seen any permanent peace achieved.
do you realize they have one of the lowest book translation rates on the planet?if you don't translate all that intellectual wisdom from the free world, you are stuck with ignorance, in perpetuity.have you ever wondered why the culture that brought us the first alphabet and early intellectual thought, doesn't produce anything but oil now?what stopped them? it is backward radical religion and dictatorships.
you better get down on your knees and pray that america does not pull out. that democracy succeeds. otherwise your grandkids will be wearing thawbs and speaking arabic.
democracy is our only hope that our kids and grandkids will be safe and free here.
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by rohink-2009 March 5, 2007 10:12 AM PST
Thank you Jetslags
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by obiquital March 5, 2007 10:34 AM PST
I love how they use American inventions to claim that America is evil and that America should be destroyed. Don't they realize that they could not get their message out without America having invented these things? The telephone, the computer, the internet, using electricity. Everyone uses it and America made it possible.
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by benzacharia March 5, 2007 11:10 AM PST
For those who wish to join the fight against islamic jihad, Aaron can be reached at "internet-haganah DOT org" OR "LittleGreenFootballs DOT com" his nic is "Aaron".
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by notblue March 5, 2007 11:34 AM PST
All anyone has to do is frequent these comment areas to know this article is true.
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by bartgoode March 5, 2007 2:25 PM PST
I thought ONINE RECRUITMENT was a problem when they started showing commercials for GOARMY.COM! And those commercials where guys climb rocks, fight dragons and then turns into a Marine! -- Thousands of young men being told Military service is cool and finacially beneficial -- then they wind up sitting in their own feces at Walter Reed Hospital. For all their evil, JIhadists at least tell their guys the truth. Military service will kill you. -- WE make it sound as if American Service is a manly picnic where you see the world and get great benefits.

To me they're both despicable.
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by riangi March 5, 2007 4:57 PM PST
The elite's attack on the Internet continues.... what else is new?

God forbid commoners should actually be able to "freely" communicate with each other. Oh my god, then we just may gain influence over the public domain. That would be just horrible, as the public domain is the exclusive domain of the capital class, for only they have the knowledge and intelligence to "run" society. We're just stupid commoners who at best only know how to follow orders. The Internet is therefore a weapon against ourselves and we are just too dumb to understand that.

Give me a break!

We've finally got a weapon that gives us a hope in hell that we can push back these parasites and their political puppets... and dammit, we are going to use it to our own advantage!
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by pjoegoowy March 5, 2007 6:15 PM PST
On a related subject & perhaps as a followup, I wish 60 Minutes would cover this. Google:
"60 minutes" Pallywood
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by mikegeorge24 March 5, 2007 9:49 PM PST
The Military invented the Internet. See Hobbes internet time line:

http://www.zakon.org/robert/internet/timeline/

If an organization is doing something illegal online, as with child pornography, the crime is investigated, and the guilty parties are arrested and tried in a court of law. Then they go to jail.

Likewise if a website is in fact one of these Jihadist sites, the FBI, with all of the resources of the Federal Government at its beckoned command, could be infiltrating the culprits--getting inside these organizations the Military is complaining about--and then taking the appropriate actions to bring the members to justice.

This is what is wrong with the Republican Neocon viewpoint that all solutions in the war on terror are military, when we should indeed be using every means at our disposal; diplomatic, CIA, technological, and especially law enforcement and the judicial system.

Complaining that the Internet and HTML are somehow by nature at fault is dangerous. And this fear mongering coming from the military of a country founded by Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin? Once our rights are surrendered they will not be returned us so easily.
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by tor123-2009 March 6, 2007 1:40 AM PST
So our Army Gen. John finally figured out we've been SWIFT-BOATED by the enemy not only on the ground or green zone but in cyberspace. AMAZING. He could have called Karl Rowe or the ranch to get that formula from Mr. Bush or his VP side show...or call their favorite TV station (FOX) or simple consult with the White House staff in touch with the religious right. Mr. Bill...the sky is falling...And the beat goes on...See you at the trillion dollar war budget mark... celebration... to toast our great churning money machine economy providing the engine to pay for Mr. Bush's next folly.
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by alreadyknown March 6, 2007 5:12 AM PST
You Tube has tons of these recruiting videos. It has been a major tool of usage for these Jihadist recruiters. Why 60 min hasn't said more about the site is beyond my comprehension considering that CBS has an account with You Tube. I'm sure their contributors are there as well. 60 min could have done a better job of letting the public know this.

We who are at You Tube battle these Jihadist on a daily basis. Here's just 1 example of a recruiting video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGoq6fUK4HU

And no matter how many times it's flagged, You Tube still does not remove this trash. Yet, they will allow even more garbage such as inflammatory vids against Christianity, but when it comes to inflammation against Islam, "Heaven Forbid", those videos are immediately yanked at the Muslim's request.
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by alreadyknown March 6, 2007 5:17 AM PST
You Tube has tons of these recruiting videos. It has been a major tool of usage for these Jihadist recruiters. Why 60 min hasn't said more about the site is beyond my comprehension considering that CBS has an account with You Tube. I'm sure their contributors are there as well. 60 min could have done a better job of letting the public know this.

We who are at You Tube, battle these Jihadists on a daily basis. Here's just 1 example of a recruiting video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGoq6fUK4HU

And no matter how many times it's flagged, You Tube still does not remove this trash. Yet, they will allow even more garbage such as inflammatory vids against Christianity, but when it comes to inflammation against Islam, "Heaven Forbid", those videos are immediately yanked at the Muslim's request.
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by alreadyknown March 6, 2007 5:20 AM PST
You Tube has tons of these recruiting videos. It has been a major tool of usage for these Jihadist recruiters. Why 60 min hasn't said more about the site is beyond my comprehension considering that CBS has an account with You Tube. I'm sure their contributors are there as well. 60 min could have done a better job of letting the public know this.

We who are at You Tube, battle these Jihadists on a daily basis. Here's just 1 example of a recruiting video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGoq6fUK4HU

And no matter how many times it's flagged, You Tube still does not remove this trash. Yet, they will allow even more garbage such as inflammatory vids against Christianity, but when it comes to inflammation against Islam, "Heaven Forbid", those videos are immediately yanked at the Muslim's request.
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by log_out March 6, 2007 5:56 AM PST
You alredy lose the war. Its matter of time and you will retreat from Iraq. Then you will turn the world in a new cold war.
The US will be never the negotiator of peace. You have only power to force some country's to talk about negotiation. It's your foreign police, that build an image of the evil war machinery in the minds of main public, in the east. And that i mean Europe too. Don't buy that thinks, that politicians said about war on terrorism and war on Iraq, they tried to be diplomatic. Ask the public in the Europe, what's they oppinion about US.
Will you be so stupid and negotiote with evil(US)? - You are asking that the people in the middle east.
Will you be so stupid to negotiote with terrorists?
- It's the same qeustion like that before, but its adressed to US site.

The public is the negotiator, which forces politicians to make some decisions. And you haven't the public favor's.
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by egroegennud March 7, 2007 9:34 PM PST
I am a typical American citizen who has access to the internet from my home computer. I am ready and willing to serve my country as a member of a cyber militia who, if only instructed how to proceed, could help my country attack the enemy on-line.Where is the leadership that could guide us all to take part in something such as this?
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