Pakistan Denies Bin Laden's In Country

Rejects U.S. Claims That Al Qaeda Is Setting Up Camps Near Afghan Border

(CBS/AP)  Pakistan on Wednesday rejected a claim by the U.S. intelligence chief that Osama bin Laden and his deputy were hiding in northwestern Pakistan, and that al Qaeda was setting up camps near the Afghan border.

Interior Minister Aftab Khan Sherpao, told The Associated Press there were no al Qaeda training camps in his country and U.S. officials had not provided any intelligence suggesting there were.

"We will act on any such intelligence, but so far they have not" provided any, he said.

Sherpao's comments came a day after Mike McConnell, the new U.S. intelligence chief, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that al Qaeda was trying to set up operations in largely ungoverned parts of Pakistan's northwest, along Afghanistan's eastern border.

"It's something we're very worried about and very concerned about," McConnell said. U.S. intelligence officials believe that bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, were trying to establish an al Qaeda base in the region, he said. McConnell noted the camps are in an area that has never been governed by any state or outside power.

U.S. officials fear bin Laden no longer has to rely on couriers for his communications, but can meet with his senior leaders face to face and plan attacks on the U.S., CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reports.

On a visit to Pakistan on Monday, Vice President Dick Cheney met with President Gen. Pervez Musharraf to seek his aid in foiling an anticipated spring offensive by the Taliban and al Qaeda against coalition forces in Afghanistan.

Cheney was accompanied by Deputy CIA Director Stephen Kappes, suggesting that the U.S. officials were prepared to buttress their allegations about al Qaeda operations with intelligence data.

U.S. officials are concerned about a peace deal Pakistan signed with tribal leaders of the North Waziristan region in September. In that agreement, the tribes promised to respect the authority of the Pakistani government and curtail cross-border attacks by militants.

In return, Musharraf returned some of the tribes' weapons, released some prisoners and withdrew from posts inside North Waziristan.

At Tuesday's hearing, Lt. Gen. Michael Maples, head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, said the tribes have not abided by most terms of the agreement. McConnell added U.S. intelligence believes al Qaeda's training and related capabilities increased as a result of the deal.

Musharraf's office confirmed that during the meeting, Cheney expressed concern that al Qaeda was "regrouping" in the tribal areas and that the vice president "called for concerted efforts in countering the threat."

Musharraf, his office said, told Cheney Pakistan was already doing all it could to fight the militants.

Sherpao insisted Pakistan was "fighting the scourge of terrorism in the best interest of Pakistan."

Musharraf is a key ally of the United States in its fight against Islamic militants.

According to Derek Chollet of the Center for Strategic Studies, U.S. options in Pakistan are nearing a dead end, even a disastrous end if Musharraf were to fall.

"We're one bad event away from this going down the tubes," Chollet told CBS News, "which is a dangerous position to be in, given how vital Pakistan is and Pakistan's stability is to U.S. interests, given the fact that Pakistan is a nuclear power."

[us_infidel]

Right....and I'm Peter Pan.

[usawatchman]

911 COVER-UP

BBC Reported WTC 7 Collapse 26 Minutes In Advance
(CUT... Take TWO....People lets keep to the SCRIPT...????)

BBC reports has Salomon Brothers Building collapsed...
we now go LIVE....to the Salomon Brothers Building ...
we are now LIVE where the Salomon Brothers Building has collapsed....
(CUT... Take TWO....People lets keep to the SCRIPT...????)


People, these people (reporters) didn't know what
the Salomon Brothers Building
LOOKED LIKE
SO when they showed a LIVE SHOT of the cities buildings
they DIDN'T KNOW that one of the BUILDINGS in the BACKGROUND
was the STILL STANDING
Salomon Brothers Building (World Trade # 7)

PEOPLE, TAKE A STAND AGAINST THE
CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT
BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE..

PEOPLE, IT IS TIME TO TAKE BACK
OUR COUNTRY FROM THESE CRIMINALS...!


http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/bbc_wtc_7_timestamp_confirms_bbc_reported_collapse_26_min_advance.htm

. ... ....

[lpsuperman]

i say we blow them off the face of the earth
[~_~] i meen what the hel* were only at war!!!!

[usawatchman]

CBS is CENSORING the NEWS on 911
(i.e. they aid the COVER-UP)

[lpsuperman]

i say we blow them off the face of
the earth [~_~]...
i meen he** were only at war. that would probably end most of our problems...

[lpsuperman]

i say we blow them off the face of
the earth [~_~]...
i meen he** were only at war. that would probably end most of our problems...

[jimbo505]

Where else could he be?

[marcodele]

I don't think Pakistan's interior minister understands that since Bush and Rove took office, "intelligence" has been re-defined to include 'faulty intelligence' and 'flawed intelligence' and 'massive intelligence failures.'

If Rove decides to send Fox News a spin bite that says "We have intelligence that Pakistan is aiding terrorists" then that, in the New United States, constitutes intelligence. And once Fox News and Rush repeat it a hundred times a week for two or three weeks, it becomes 'official intelligence.'

They shouldn't say the U.S. has not provided intelligence. This administration manufactures new intelligence every day.

[marcodele]

I don't think Pakistan's interior minister understands that since Bush and Rove took office, "intelligence" has been re-defined to include 'faulty intelligence' and 'flawed intelligence' and 'massive intelligence failures.'

If Rove decides to send Fox News a spin bite that says "We have intelligence that Pakistan is aiding terrorists" then that, in the New United States, constitutes intelligence. And once Fox News and Rush repeat it a hundred times a week for two or three weeks, it becomes 'official intelligence.'

They shouldn't say the U.S. has not provided intelligence. This administration manufactures new intelligence every day.

[j-whitman]

Who's that tall bearded guy trimming flowers in the White House Rose Garden ????

[us_infidel]

Like the Pakis would know......jeeezzz
We should just go and look for ourselves.

[iraq1998]

test

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[j-whitman]

USinfidel,,, Wouldn't it be great if our Troops got the Mountain Training Bush has stopped ??? Or the training at Ft. Irwin they are being sent into combat without ????

[tuckerndfw]

If a person's location is unknown, how can anyone claim they know where he isn't? That means Sherpao knows where he is since he states OBL is not in Pakistan.

Either that or he is lying.

Perhaps Bozo Bush's pathological lying is contagious.

[Syndicate]

Oh good Pakistan knows were bin laden is. They should tell us so we can go get him. If you don't know for sure where he is you can't say he isn't in your country.

[bluestardad]

It may be time to consider changing Democratic Leadership in Congress! It seems that those leaders the American People have entrusted to get America out of Iraq are not capable of doing so. With Three American Soldiers being killed a day and a Billion Tax Dollars a week being lost in the Middle East America cannot afford Leadership that is indecisive or inept! The American Electorate has spoken and demands our elected officials be responsive to our mandate! Changes must be made and quickly to Pull all American Troops out of Iraq! The entire Middle East has grown accustom to America coming to their rescue for their problems and has never exercised their own ability to resolve their own difficulties. In some cases as with Iran in the 1950s America has added to the problems and destabilization of the country. It is time the Entire Middle East, all parties, sits down together and solves their own problems without America standing over their shoulder or acting as a destabilizing force for corporate reasons. When the Middle East has ownership of the solution and its results it will cause them to work harder to make the plans successful. The Middle East must wean itself from American dependency!

[j-whitman]

Cbscrash,,, Maybe we should sent Pakastan's leader & Bush to GITMO to find out which one is hiding him ???

[tuckerndfw]

Bluestandard,

Both major parties are controlled by global corporations, oil companies and other war profiteers. Until ExxonMobil & other war profiteers have wrung every last dollar out of Iraq, neither party will do anything to remove the troops. Or, upset their sponsors.

Global corporations and most politicians consider dead civilians & soldiers "collateral damage." They are irrelevant when it comes to making profits.

Sadly, but equally true, is that the majority of Americans are just as greedy and would send their own mothers to their deaths if it meant reaping one million dollars in unearned and undeserved income.

The enemy is us.

[crater7]

NO PROBLEM, THIS ADMINISTRATION WILL JUST ADD THEM TO THE LIST, OF "AXIS OF EVIL", REFUSE TO TALK TO THEM, THREATEN THEM WITH SANCTIONS, LET THEM KNOW THAT ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE, AND WE WILL USE WHAT EVER MEANS NECESSARY TO ACCOMPLISH OUR MISSION OF PROTECTING OUR TROOPS, (WAIT, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY TROOPS IN PAKISTAN)WHEN THAT DON'T WORK, GIVE THEM MONEY. WORKS EVERY TIME.

[j-whitman]

Support Our Troops --- With Regime Change Here

[radiob-2009]

If we know that Bin Laden is there why don't we do something, a drone plane or something to attack the camps.And J the president is being forced to spend the remainder of his days with Lars and Lieberman, not sure who is going to suffer the most.

[j-whitman]

It's shocking anyone wants the GOP on the 08 ballot at all ---- Iraq is a Failure, Afaganistain Faiing,, Republicans support Bush in giving New York & New Jersy to the UAE (Sunni's) & fighting in Iraq for the Sunni's, not to mention funding radical Sunni Muslems in thier ops against Iran.
... Who's the Enemy here ??? -- 9/11 Terrorist where Sunni's & most from the UAE,, OBL is Sunni.

[cathaleen]

How can you believe anyone from Pakistan. Like they are going to say, hey! over here.

[radiob-2009]

Posted by usadvisor101
It might not end the Taliban or Al Queda but it would be sweet.Rid the world of these idiots that started this whole fiasco.

[j-whitman]

USAadvsor,,, How long you ask ?? -- How long did it take the Soviet Union ?? Look at us, 6 years later - Karzi is still only the mayor of Kabul with less power, & we still pay him, opium production has increased & Taliban is stronger than ever & so is al Quaeda --- Maybe Bush will give himself & Cheney the Freedom Medal.

[tuckerndfw]

"how long do we plan on taking care of afghanistan?"

Posted by usadvisor101 at 03:26 PM : Feb 28, 2007

The former Soviet Union occupied Afghanistan for about 12 years. And, they never lost a battle, either.

The US never lost a battle in Vietnam.

But, winning battles is irrelevant in an insurgency.

The US had and has no hope of winning in either Afghanistan or Iraq. But, the invasions allowed Bush and cronies to loot the US treasury for about one trillion dollars.

[reel-crazy]

I'm wondering if Georgie is listening... hope so or we will be in Pakistan next....ooops, forgot there isn't much oil there...my mistake.

However, there are plenty of rocks for that dopey-looking ********* to hide under there anywhere, so that was a stupid statement made by Aftab.

If that freaking coward had any sense, he would be hiding in North Korea anyway... only then would he positively be safe from the world.

[j-whitman]

Now there is no mountain training for our troops, & they aren't getting desert training at Ft. Irwin,,, We just might end up as the Russians did.

[bluestardad]

It may be time to consider changing Democratic Leadership in Congress! It seems that those leaders the American People have entrusted to get America out of Iraq are not capable of doing so. With Three American Soldiers being killed a day and a Billion Tax Dollars a week being lost in the Middle East America cannot afford Leadership that is indecisive or inept! The American Electorate has spoken and demands our elected officials be responsive to our mandate! Changes must be made and quickly to Pull all American Troops out of Iraq! The entire Middle East has grown accustom to America coming to their rescue for their problems and has never exercised their own ability to resolve their own difficulties. In some cases as with Iran in the 1950s America has added to the problems and destabilization of the country. It is time the Entire Middle East, all parties, sits down together and solves their own problems without America standing over their shoulder or acting as a destabilizing force for corporate reasons. When the Middle East has ownership of the solution and its results it will cause them to work harder to make the plans successful. The Middle East must wean itself from American dependency!

Write your Representatives and Senators! http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

[musty2u]

If we were better prepared to send our troops to multiple fronts this would be a good hidey-hole to scoot about in.

[randalds]

But I thought Pakistan was Bush's best-est buddy? I mean he and Musharraf practically locked lips (much to the consternation of his girlfriend Condi) after 9-11 when Bush praised him to high heaven. Now we are expected to believe Pakistan is not made out of sterling silver? Why that's almost as bad as another country we used to know. One who had a leader that we sent of Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld to visit in the 1980's (and hand over CIA satellite photos and deliver "fertilizer"). One that president Reagen said the leader of was a "wise and courageous leader". Oh wait, that was Saddam Hussein and we just overthrew him when our leaders became afraid he might implicate them. Guess our friends are our enemies when we don't need them anymore.

[generey]

ROFLMAO! Pakistani's are our friends! They wouldnt lie to us!

Americans - Asleep at the wheel.

[formrusmcsgt]

Cheney was accompanied by Deputy CIA Director Stephen Kappes, suggesting that the U.S. officials were prepared to buttress their allegations about al Qaeda operations with intelligence data.

Yet, a few days later:

Interior Minister Aftab Khan Sherpao, told The Associated Press there were no al Qaeda training camps in his country and U.S. officials had not provided any intelligence suggesting there were.


Maybe Bush had some more monkeyed-up intel and the Pakistanis wouldn't go for it?

[royal-mail]

Pakistan is not all bad, if it was the US would not give It. all that free nuclear technology And of course it would be a good launch pad for any attack on Iran
If that fails then it can be bombed back into the stone age.

[formrusmcsgt]

was it not a worthy cause when we first went there? and what have we lost there so far?
Posted by usadvisor101 at 04:10 PM : Feb 28, 2007

It was a worthy cause, but Bush cut and ran to go headhunting in Iraq and left it half done. He's now begging NATO to do the job he ran from.

[j-whitman]

USAadvisor,,, We should be in Afaganistan, I want a victory.... But, let's look at the evidence.. We have a 'Decider' who isn't capable of good decisions,, Look at Iraq, the Middle East & our Homeland. --- Now he cuts training for our Troops ??

[formrusmcsgt]

i think most americans were on board for the afghani invasion. but comparing it to the soviet occupation is a major exageration.
Posted by usadvisor101 at 04:10 PM : Feb 28, 2007

You're correct. Comparing the American invasion of Iraq to the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan is more appropriate.

[bm6005]

test

[Coolcal5420032001]

It looks and sounds as if "We the People" are once again are being lied to. I got Intell that puts bin Laden is hiding in New Jersey of the USA! The main reason the US went to Afghan was to caught bin Laden but when the Generals or commander in charge there asked for more troops to corner him, no dice! So now I(America) must ask our these questions,1)Why send troops now to Iraq? 2)Even if bin Laden is caught is it over?!3)How many more liveson all sides have to be lost before "We the People" really say enough?!4)How much more money is spent and unaccounted for, while the people in La,Miss,Al,and Fla.wait for Federal Assistance? The questions continue to build every second and We the People have no guarantees for the future of our children and their children.

[bluestardad]

It may be time to consider changing Democratic Leadership in Congress! It seems that those leaders the American People have entrusted to get America out of Iraq are not capable of doing so. With Three American Soldiers being killed a day and a Billion Tax Dollars a week being lost in the Middle East America cannot afford Leadership that is indecisive or inept! The American Electorate has spoken and demands our elected officials be responsive to our mandate! Changes must be made and quickly to Pull all American Troops out of Iraq! The entire Middle East has grown accustom to America coming to their rescue for their problems and has never exercised their own ability to resolve their own difficulties. In some cases as with Iran in the 1950s America has added to the problems and destabilization of the country. It is time the Entire Middle East, all parties, sits down together and solves their own problems without America standing over their shoulder or acting as a destabilizing force for corporate reasons. When the Middle East has ownership of the solution and its results it will cause them to work harder to make the plans successful. The Middle East must wean itself from American dependency!

Write your Representatives and Senators! http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
Here is the House Speakers email address: [e-mail]

[radiob-2009]

Posted by coolcal54
It looks and sounds as if "We the People" are once again are being lied to. I got Intell that puts bin Laden is hiding in New Jersey of the USA!

Better go get your 25 million then!!!!!!!!!

[formrusmcsgt]

Better go get your 25 million then!!!!!!!!!
Posted by radiob at 04:54 PM : Feb 28, 2007

I know you mention it as a joke, but the fact that no one has betrayed bin Laden for such a huge sum for over 5 years shows a real dedication in those that serve him. Ditto for Omar

[diplomacy3]

coolcal54 & formrusmcsgt

"You're correct. Comparing the American invasion of Iraq to the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan is more appropriate"....

Do you think America is addicted to opium in Afghanistan? Ofcourse, invasion of Iraq could be justified to its addiction to oil.

[j-whitman]

It was only Monoply money, from Milton Bradley

[formrusmcsgt]

gee wizz, that is scary to think about formerusmc, ARRGHH !!!! and j, we all know why we invaded iraq(oil and israeli/regional security) and it is unfortunate, because by doing that we made it much harder on ourselves and the afghanis in regards to securing the country side for good in afghanistan.

Bush was justified in going into Afghanistan. The Taleban were given the opportunity to offer up bin Laden and they refused.

The failure occured when Bush pulled down troops and rebuilding efforts to go after Hussein. Had we stayed, finished the job of eradicating the Taleban and living up to our commitment to make things better for the Afghanis, the Taleban would not be resurfacing as they are now.

The problem is now twice as difficult, as you say, because we've already shown the Afghanis we don't give a rat's a$$ about them. The Taleban do - as it's their future.

[formrusmcsgt]

Do you think America is addicted to opium in Afghanistan? Ofcourse, invasion of Iraq could be justified to its addiction to oil.
Posted by diplomacy3 at 05:00 PM : Feb 28, 2007

The neocons wanted 4 permanent bases in Iraq. That was the driver for the regime change. They knew they could not sell the invasion to America on the bases driver, so they cooked up the WMD story.

They thought surely they'd be vindicated in finding something after the fact, but instead, got caught with their pants down around their ankles in front of the whole world.

[j-whitman]

USAadvisor,,, Down in Crawford, they have a saying, "You can lead a horse to water & make him drink --- 5 republicans to lead the horsem & 1 to suckkk on his assss.

[radiob-2009]

How many people would have objected had we used limited nuclear warheads on strategic targets in Afghanistan in the beginning of this war? Would there be a problem with any other Middle Eastern nation today if we had?

[formrusmcsgt]

How many people would have objected had we used limited nuclear warheads on strategic targets in Afghanistan in the beginning of this war? Would there be a problem with any other Middle Eastern nation today if we had?
Posted by radiob at 05:16 PM : Feb 28, 2007

You can not effectively use nukes on guerillas.