GREENCASTLE, Ind., Feb. 27, 2007

Sorority Accused Of Being Skin Deep

Some Say Delta Zeta At DePauw University Dumped Sisters Based On Looks, Ethnicity

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    WISH-TV's Marlee Ginter talked with several Delta Zeta members asked to leave their house at DePauw University in Greencastle, Ind. Some claim it was all about looks.

    • The Delta Zeta house at DePauw University.

      The Delta Zeta house at DePauw University.  (WISH)

    • Former Delta Zeta sister Celeste Gossmann

      Former Delta Zeta sister Celeste Gossmann  (WISH)

    • DePauw Dean of Students Cynthia Babington

      DePauw Dean of Students Cynthia Babington  (WISH)

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      Celeste Gossmann is flanked by two other former Delta Zeta sisters.  (WISH)

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(CBS)  A national sorority's decision to dump two-thirds of the sisters in one of its Indiana houses — possibly because of their looks — is getting national attention and a review from the school of its sororities and fraternities.

The New York Times reported Sunday that national officers of Delta Zeta were worried about a negative stereotype and declining membership in its DePauw University chapter in Greencastle, Ind.

Thirty-five sisters were interviewed in November, and 23 were deemed insufficiently committed to the sorority and recruitment. Just before final exams in December, they were told to leave.

They included every woman who was overweight as well as the only black, Korean and Vietnamese members. Even the chapter's president was kicked out. The 12 who remained were slim and conventionally pretty.

"There's no proof of that but when I look around I think to myself, it had to have been" about looks, former sorority member Celeste Gossmann told CBS affiliate WISH-TV.

Six of the remaining sisters quit in protest.

"Virtually everyone who didn't fit a certain sorority member archetype was told to leave," Kate Holloway, a senior who withdrew from the chapter during its reorganization, told The Times. "I sensed the disrespect with which this was to be carried out and got fed up."

The last straw for Holloway was a recruiting event in November for DePauw freshmen, for which "blond" and "skinny" sorority members from Indiana University were brought in, she told the Indianapolis Star, for which she has worked as a reporting intern.

Some of the booted sorority sisters withdrew from classes in depression. There have been student protests, outraged letters from alumni and parents, and a faculty petition calling the sorority's action unethical.

"None of us signed up for a sorority judging us on how we looked," Gossmann told WISH.

As a result, DePauw has revised standards for student groups and adding three employees specifically to work with fraternities and sororities, which draw nearly three-quarters of the student body, reports the Star.

The other six sororities on campus have about 100 members each, and Holloway told the Star that the Delta Zeta sisters never ignored the lagging membership.

When a psychology professor at the school surveyed students, they described Delta Zeta sisters as "socially awkward."

Although it declined interview requests, the sorority did fire back.

"Delta Zeta finds it offensive that recent reports have suggested that decisions at DePauw University were related in any way to our members' races and nationalities," the sorority said in a statement on its Web site. In e-mail to The Times, national executive director Cynthia Winslow Menges said the sorority "is saddened that the isolated incident at DePauw has been mischaracterized."

But the sorority also seems to admit it may have made a mistake.

"With a steady decline in membership in the Delta Chapter over several years, the viability of the chapter was in question. In the process of addressing that situation, we misjudged how some of our communications would be received by our members, and we regret that," the statement said.

Cindy Babington, DePauw's dean of students, told WISH the school had nothing to do with the decision to evict the 23 students from the sorority house, and she hopes it doesn't reflect poorly on DePauw.

"I think at this point, we're getting an awful lot of unpopular publicity," Babington told the Star. "I don't know how or if they will survive this."

During rush activities this month, The Times reported, 11 first-year students accepted invitations to join Delta Zeta, but only three have sought membership.

Delta Zeta isn't the only problem in DePauw's Greek system. Three fraternities have been on probation in as many years for hazing, university officials said.

The university has drawn up new "living standards" for fraternities and sororities, which includes a provision to prevent another incident such as what happened at Delta Zeta. The specific proposals, which DePauw's trustees are expected to approve in April, were not made public.

"It really was a statement of wanting our Greek system to be stronger," Babington told the Star. "Many other schools, small schools particularly, have let their Greek systems self-destruct, and we didn't want to let that happen."

Delta Zeta has 165 chapters and is headquartered in Oxford, Ohio. It was founded in 1902 at Miami University there. The DePauw chapter was founded in 1909.


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by bwright923 March 1, 2007 3:02 AM EST
test one two three cant see the posts
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by connapa February 28, 2007 2:06 PM EST
***Yet*** ***another*** ***reason*** ***to*** ***do*** ***away*** ***with*** ***the*** ***whole*** ***fraternity***/***sorority*** ***system***.
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by meerkat1866 February 28, 2007 1:56 PM EST
***That*** ***go***&***quot***;***s*** ***to*** ***show*** ***there*** ***is*** ***only*** ***hard*** ***on*** ***men*** ***and*** ***lesbian*** ***wemmon***. ***Thanks*** ***Lake*** ***city*** ***Fl***.
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by gt1003 February 28, 2007 12:52 PM EST
***SamTV***, ***you*** ***must*** ***have*** ***missed*** ***my*** ***first*** ***post***. ***Everything*** ***I*** ***have*** ***written*** ***is*** ***an*** ***apology*** ***of*** ***sorts***. ***I*** ***joined*** ***a*** ***sorority***, ***did*** ***what*** ***they*** ***said***, ***and*** ***participated*** ***in*** ***discrimmination***. ***I*** ***grew*** ***up***, ***realized*** ***that*** ***was*** ***not*** ***a*** ***good*** ***thing*** ***and*** ***now*** ***stand*** ***up*** ***to*** ***say*** ***that*** ***yes***, ***the*** ***things*** ***those*** ***girls*** ***are*** ***saying*** ***did*** ***happen*** ***before*** ***and*** ***I*** ***saw*** ***it*** ***first*** ***hand***. ***I***'***m*** ***also*** ***standing*** ***up*** ***to*** ***say*** ***that*** ***most*** ***of*** ***the*** ***girls*** ***going*** ***through*** ***rush***, ***imo***, ***have*** ***some*** ***rather*** ***distorted*** ***thinking*** ***when*** ***they*** ***choose*** ***not*** ***to*** ***join*** ***DZ*** ***there*** ***because*** ***the*** ***girls*** ***are*** &***quot***;***different***&***quot***;. ***That***'***s*** ***it***. ***I***'***m*** ***saying*** ***the*** ***system*** ***is*** ***broken*** ***basically*** ***and*** ***that*** ***those*** ***girls*** ***probably*** ***aren***'***t*** ***lying*** ***or*** ***exaggerating*** ***and*** ***yes***, ***it*** ***sucks*** ***what*** ***happened*** ***to*** ***them***.
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by us_infidel February 28, 2007 12:41 PM EST
How sad. If they were high schoolers, I'd be a little more sympathetic. By the time someone reaches college, they really should have outgrown these juvenile attitudes.

It really speaks to the shollowness of today's youth.
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by gunnerv1 February 28, 2007 10:49 AM EST
***Plowhandle***, ***Condumism*** : ***And*** ***we***'***er*** ***always*** ***richer*** ***than*** ***you*** ***too***!
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by gunnerv1 February 28, 2007 10:46 AM EST
***Plowhandle***: ***So*** ***only*** ***Paleolibs*** ***belong*** ***in*** ***Education***.
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by plowhandle February 28, 2007 9:49 AM EST
Sororities and Fraternities = Prep schools for membership in the Republishit Party.

They have no place in American education, and should not be allowed on state university campuses.
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by dargay February 28, 2007 2:32 AM EST
sororities are full of bimbos.
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by bwright923 February 28, 2007 2:11 AM EST
did anyone catch frontline tonight on PBS? this is the kind of useless stories that they were talking about. WHO CARES!!!! should I run to the news every time someone says they don't like me or want me in their club? besides, any club that would have me is not one i want to be a part of :)
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by redstripe12 February 28, 2007 2:02 AM EST
What's the difference between a sorority girl and an elephant?
About 20 lbs.

How do you equate the two?
Feed the elephant!
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by zootallures2 February 28, 2007 1:30 AM EST
People are total fake unfriendly godless morons. Most of you will go to hell. You are animals. Obviously, in order to appreciate life, you need to know you are alive. Most have all the awareness of a roach.
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by haneyr-2009 February 28, 2007 12:39 AM EST
mjv2944 you are so typical in your pot calling the kettle black mentality. It seems to me that the great liberal city of Boston took some time to get integration going in their neck of the woods after the people they elected voted for it. So stay tuned into reality and don't go off in a haze induced diatribe about people you don't even understand.

So let's back to the real issue. Groups are made up of people who are alike or want to be more alike. This has always been this way and always will be this way. You know, Boy Scouts for boys and Girl Scouts for girls, YWCA, YMCA, NAACP, Masons, democrats, republicans, etc. etc.

You don't like what the group represents then don't join it. Don't have a group, then form it. It is up the institution that sponsors the group to decide if they will continue to sponsor them, not force them to change to their ideals.

The girls that were kicked out still have options: cry, join a new group, get a life and realize life ain't fair. Plus the great American equalizer . . . economics 101. No members, no dues, no money, no house, no group, no problem.
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by monstrousbig February 28, 2007 12:20 AM EST
Who cares? So what? They get kicked out of Theta-Barbie-Kappa...Waaaaaaah!!! Why don't they pull their big-girl panties up, stop whining and get over it. Obviously, this will not get them "back in", and why would they want to go back? I can plainly see why they got the boot. They are not ugly, they just don't take care of themselves. Who knows? They may be a bunch of slobs or idiots for all we know. I know some disgusting women myself who look great but their homes are cesspools! There may be something besides their bland appearance that brought this on.
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by mjv2944 February 27, 2007 11:53 PM EST
I bet their daddy's were rich as- neocons. Only those types would perform like this.
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by docadams3 February 27, 2007 10:29 PM EST
This is just one more reason why fraternities and sororities should be banned from college campuses. Drunkeness, arrogance, and social exclusion... I wonder who that brings to mind?
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by tuckerndfw February 27, 2007 10:21 PM EST
They are just preparing these girls for the real world. Isn't that what they are supposed to do?

The reality is that intelligent and/or attractive people have a much greater chance of success than others, such as stupid, fat, or ugly people.

That's just reality and it's unlikely to change regardless how many people wring their hands about equality, injustice or sensitivity.

Better kids learn the lessons while they are young than allowing them to waste their time thinking they are "equal."
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by eeyorebnl February 27, 2007 9:48 PM EST
I am a sister of Delta Zeta (Lambda Lambda chapter) and the situation between national and the DePauw chapter has shocked me and the other alumna sisters from my chapter. The Depauw sister voted to close the chapter and I understand that national wanted to save the chapter; however they tore it apart. National owes this chapter a HUGE apology and needs to better explain their actions to the thousands of alumna!
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by dzdpu05 February 27, 2007 9:22 PM EST
I am proud of the women who decided to stay, they are a beacon of hope. The hope that they will be strong and stand up for their fallen sisters, that they will not buy in to the image and stereotypes that they are being sold by nationals, and that they will be a reminder of the Delta Zeta that I loved. The chapter that praised it's women for being academically successfull and who believed in volunteerism over partying or making out with frat guys. Those are the women I joined with. Those are my kindred spirits and my sisters.
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by dzdpu05 February 27, 2007 9:19 PM EST
This whole situation is heartbreaking. I was a member of this chapter of Delta Zeta. It was home and the women in it were and continue to be my sisters. They are family and even though I left before having the priviledge of meeting each of these 35 women who were subjected to interviews by nationals, I would never hestitate to call them sisters.
The women of Delta Chapter of Delta Zeta are special, they are different, and they are unique. I was a memeber of the graduating class of 2005. So these events hit hard. I am not suprised though. This has been an ongoing battle between the Chapter and our National advisors. We have fought long and hard to keep our chapter open, especially to women who were more interested in making life-long friends than who their next Frat-boy hook-up would be. This is not to discredit the other greek organizations of DePauw, each one is different and has it's own goals and values.
The August vote to close Delta Chapter was bourne out of the exhaustion of the active members. They were tired of fighting nationals, tired of being told that they weren't good enough, and tired of constantly worrying that something like this might happen. I know because we worried about the same things when I was there. I know that the women who made that vote wanted to spend the rest of their time as chapter doing things things as sisters. They wanted to be happy. The decision was not made lightly or without tears.
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