February 11, 2009 5:17 PM

Is The Cold War Heating Up Again?

By
Melissa McNamara
(CBS)  Russians have no shortage of wars to commemorate. Today is Defense of the Fatherland Day. They honored their military heroes at the Kremlin, CBS News correspondent Elizabeth Palmer reports, and in Russian schools, there were mock drills.

But there's now a very real and aggressive rhetoric coming from Russia these days.

Earlier this month, President Putin accused America of using overwhelming military force and threatening to plunge the whole world into conflict.

In an exclusive interview with CBS News, Russia's last Cold Warrior, Mikhail Gorbachev, agrees.

"The last straw was when Defense Secretary Gates said America needs large armed forces to defend itself against the unpredictability of Russia and China," Gorbachev says. "It seems that America sees us an enemy again."

Russia's generals were furious with U.S. plans to put radar bases into the Czech Republic and a new missile defense system into Poland. They were so angry that Russia has threatened to build new missiles and point them at Europe.

U.S. National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley is in Moscow to cool the rhetoric, but defense analyst Pavel Felgenhauer says it won't be easy.

"After 9/11, Putin believed in exchange for supporting the U.S. and personally, George Bush, in the fight against terrorism, the West would grant us our sphere of influence," Felgenhauer says.

Putin believed the U.S. wouldn't interfere in what Russia thinks of as its own backyard. Instead, NATO, the European-American military alliance, has crept right up to Russia's borders.

"That makes Putin and his cohorts in the Kremlin very, very angry," Felgenhauer explains.

No one believes Russia is actually angry enough to go to war, but this confrontation has already spilled over into business. Russia's national airline, Aeroflot, has announced it has suspended negotiations to buy 22 new passenger jets from Boeing, worth $2.5 billion.

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by lars008-2009 February 26, 2007 9:32 AM EST
Katie-Couric
righttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
i guess that explains why clinton and the dems wanted to resume hostilities with iraq in 1998

the war is legal

the resumption of hostilities was only a matter of time since iraq broke the ceasefire agreement.....

the usa would be in iraq regardless of 911 per above.... so blame saddam...

bush did not lie.... if you wait for perfect intel you get pearl harbor and 911....
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
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by lars008-2009 February 26, 2007 9:23 AM EST
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by katie-couric February 26, 2007 4:32 AM EST
response to: Post by lars008 at 02:29 PM : Feb 25, 2007

Your analogy:
"Equating the naiveti of the Democratic Party with the WWII Japanese propaganda tactics of Tokyo Rose"
seems well-founded and correct.

However there is a major difference.
All 3 WWII points:
#1. President is lying. (Perhaps Roosevelt foreknowledge of Pearl Harbor only.)
#2. This war is unjust. (Japan attacked USA.)
#3. You can't win this war. (We won WWII.)

Don't really apply as well to Iraq war.
#1. President is lying. (NO "weapons of mass destruction" were found.)
#2. This war is unjust. (Terrorists in AFGHANISTAN... not Iraq... attacked USA.)
#3. You can't win this war. (Nobody can win a "HOLY" war. Which is what this really is.)

...and we've been in Iraq - LONGER - than WWII.
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by lars008-2009 February 25, 2007 5:29 PM EST
During WW II, the Japanese were searching for a way to demoralize the American forces that they faced. Their psychological warfare experts came up with a message that they thought would work well.

They gave the script to their famous broadcaster, "Tokyo Rose," and every day she would broadcast this same message packaged in various ways, hoping to have an impact on American GI morale. What was the message?
It had three main points:
1. Your president is lying to you.
2. This war is illegal.
3. You cannot win the war.

Sound familiar? the Democratic Party has picked up the same message and is broadcasting it to civilians domestic and abroad, and to our troops and our enemies. The only difference is that they claim to support our troops before they demoralize them.

Come to think of it, Tokyo Rose used to tell the troops that she was on their side.

I am often struck by how similar the rhetoric from the left is to the rhetoric from our enemies. Consider this transcript of a taped al qaeda message
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by tbweb February 25, 2007 4:20 AM EST
President Bush was standing in front of a new technology car recently, 100 percent electric! The picture of President Bush with that 100 percent electric car was very symbolic. It showed that President Bush, an oil man, now fully understood the source of America's enemies power, OIL, there was no mistake about it! President Bush still has enough time to save his legacy, the U.S. President needs to embrace this new fully electric car with all his power! Americans need to fully embrace the 100 percent electric car and not worry about features or styles or pick up because the 100 percent electric car is the key to defeating America's enemies by moving away from foreign OIL as quickly as possible! America needs to rapidly stop buying foreign oil which is funding its destruction and funding terrorist from the likes of Venezuela, Iran, Russia and the Arab world! The thousands of gas filling stations across the U.S. can start to install rapid recharing pumps and create a new economy! America can do this, America must do this, America's survival depends on it!
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by randalds February 25, 2007 2:39 AM EST
Bush would love a new cold war. The last one was hugely profitable for his buddies in the defense industry. They made billions of dollars selling the government (that would be us, the taxpayers) weapon system after weapon system. Granted these companies are already bloated with all of OUR money that Bush has transferred to them with his war of profit in Iraq, but I'm sure they'd be willing to make another trillion or two off from our grandchildren for more systems. These days wars are not about country or patriotism or freedom, they're about profit. They're about transferring huge sums of cash from the taxpayers into the bank accounts of the rich elite. These wars are class wars and most Americans are losing. The ruling class has made it's move to own us with this war. The question is do we have the balls to fight them back?
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by grazinggoat February 24, 2007 10:51 PM EST
Walking-Liar has not delivered his many promises. He preferred keep it all for the Haliburton v-president's wax-face-DinckCheney. He skrewed the Iraqis and devided their country into three pieces one to the Sunnis, one to the Shia and one to the Kurds and Israelis to be in northern-Iraq (Kirkuk).
In this case it IS mission accomplished.

Putin is still salivating but started to feel starving... In this case Iran showed more generous to Russians than America. Putin wil unload Walking-Liar and dump him in the opposite camp. Watch the silly game between the two. Russia lost a lot of power and influence while disintegrating. Putin succeeded to stop the bleeding though. The Russian giant has been wounded, but is now recovering.
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by grumpas February 24, 2007 12:37 PM EST
I can well imagine the cold war is heating up again! The fascist cowboy who is running our country is threatening the peace and stability of the entire world with his lunacy! It stands to reason everyone is going to feel threatened! He has proven time and time again his actions are not guided by reality but rather by insanity! Bush seems to be obsessed with starting new wars that everyone knows he can't win! His "mad dog" approached to foreign policy is destroying us!
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by dallison7 February 24, 2007 11:36 AM EST
I understand the greed displayed by the Bush/Cheney group. I can even understand the lust for power, and possibly comprehend the neverending push to incite wars. These are evil and greedy men with a 'big corporation' agenda. Reactionaries who long for the days of 'lords and serfs'. What I cannot understand is the total distruction of goodwill. Even Hitler knew he needed allies. Will these madmen continue to squander the goodwill of other nations until even the english-speaking nations are our enemies?
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by coffeehead-2009 February 24, 2007 9:10 AM EST
The "cold war"
will happen because THAT is the plan.
iraq, samolia, nicaragua, afghanistan, pakistan, N.korea, iran, israel - just where are AMERICA's troops being dispersed?

It's so in your face but we refuse to become unsubliminally responsible for where we are being taken - apparently here and now to this generation is more important that where we've come from and where we are sending our grandkids and future. We truly ARE becoming a "farenheit 451" society - the sad part is we sit and watch and wait. --- Unlike our ancestors, our actions will NOT be heroic and sacraficial - they will be selfish and lived for me, my and I - NOW.

NWO

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