Feb. 25, 2007

Brundibar: How The Nazis Conned The World

Used A Children's Opera To Deceive International Observers

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(CBS)  How did the Nazis manage to kill six million Jews and keep so much of the world in the dark? Part of the answer can be found when looking at the history of a concentration camp called Theresienstadt, in what was Czechoslovakia. Near the end of the war, the Nazis used the camp to con the world.

Reports had begun circulating in allied capitals that the Nazis were exterminating Jews. The Nazis wanted to refute those reports, so they took this one camp and turned it, if ever so briefly, into a model town. They shot a movie there to prove how good they treated the Jews and invited the Red Cross to inspect it.

Central to the deception was the performance of a children's opera called "Brundibar." The opera survived the war and so did a few members of its cast. They are in their mid-70s now and a few months ago, they invited 60 Minutes correspondent Bob Simon to spend some time with them.



Every summer, a remarkable reunion takes place in the Czech Republic. A group of friends come together from all over the world, who all have one thing in common: they grew up in the shadow of death in a concentration camp in the lush mountains outside of Prague. They grew up quickly.

Helga Kinsky couldn’t speak about the horror for a full 40 years. "Because actually whatever you did, you didn't have the right to live. You were sentenced to death. And it is something you can't get over," she explains.

The survivors' friendship began in Theresienstadt, a transit camp. From here, a garrison town before the war, Jews were sent off to the gas chambers of Auschwitz. Nearly 140,000 Jews from all over central Europe passed through the camp, including many of Europe’s most prominent artists who left a record of what it was like. Much of the art has survived, some of it by children. They portrayed how cold and crowded they were, sleeping 30 to a room, how typhus epidemics swept through the camp. The dead were brought to catacombs before being incinerated. Bodies were carried on the same wagons used for bread. Jews weren’t gassed at Theresienstadt but more than 30,000 died of disease and hunger.

Music flourished in the camp—it was like a Julliard for Jews. There were classes and concerts in cellars and attics. The hottest ticket in town was Brundibar, written by a Czech Jew and smuggled into the camp.

"It wasn't easy to get tickets," remembers Dita Krause, who was in the choir in Brundibar. She says tickets were printed for every performance and were maybe the most difficult to get.

The opera was performed 55 times by children in Theresienstadt. It’s a fairy tale of sorts, the story of a young brother and sister who with the help of a cat, a dog, a bird and the children of the village defeat an evil organ grinder named Brundibar. The opera ends with a victory song.

Back in the camp, the Nazis filmed the performance in 1944. The lead role, the part of Brundibar, was played by a boy named Honza Treichlinger, who wore a fake mustache.

"Everybody loved him. And everybody adored him," remembers Ella Weissberger, who played the cat.

"I wore my sisters ski pants and my mothers sweater. Black sweater, this was my costume," she recalls.

Wearing a costume was a relief from what Ella and the other kids had to wear all the time in the camp. "This was the only time that they said we don’t have to put on the Jewish star. A couple of minutes of freedom," she explains.

A couple of minutes of freedom for Ella the cat.

Continued



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by scott4261 February 25, 2007 7:42 PM PST
We'd better pay attention. The Nazi playbook has been used by the Bush administration for the past six years...and especially since 9/11.
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by michaelgdp-2009 February 25, 2007 7:56 PM PST
The world wanted to be convinced then in the same way Muslims want to believe now that the holocaust never happened and Christians want to believe that religion, and in particular Christians had nothing to do with it. We seem doomed to repeat it.
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by tootes February 25, 2007 8:04 PM PST
What happened to the Jewish people is pure horror. I don't mean to belittle it in any way, but why is there never a story done on the Ukrainian famine? My parents lived through this and the stories are just as horrifying. The Russians closed off Ukraine's food supplies, burned fields, and about 9 million people died of starvation in a year.
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by happytoo-2009 February 25, 2007 8:12 PM PST
Those beautiful women and man look like my beloved grandparents. My heart aches for them.
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by nsubs1982 February 25, 2007 8:25 PM PST
I think them for giving me the strength to carry on. I understand more and more when I hear from people like them. I tell the students in which I work around that education wasn't free 70 plus years ago. So don't waste it now. I tell them I wasn't only talking about the Civil Rights Movement. I'm talking about Europen Wars. Just beause they were of the Jewsish faith. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN!
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by patrick_moll February 25, 2007 8:42 PM PST
It's getting tiresome hearing about the Holocaust. Particularly when a greater holocaust occurred on the Eastern Front and occupied Belarus and Ukraine. But those survivors did not have affluent benefactors.

Why does suffering nearly always have to be portrayed as a Jewish occurrence? The Second World War saw 60 million dead. But only 10% seem to matter.
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by jabberwock11 February 25, 2007 8:45 PM PST
"but why is there never a story done on the Ukrainian famine? "

Because the Ukrainians haven't learned to milk their tragedy for all it's worth. There is a certain skill at that you know. Even slavery isn't milked as much as the holocaust.
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by logic07 February 25, 2007 8:46 PM PST
Every time I hear of the holocaust, I look at Israel and wonder why a people that has suffered so much can be so callous against their Palestinian neighbors.

I wonder too why the holocaust ever occured? How could a whole nation turn against a whole race of people? Could it be because of centuries of accumulated bad karma?

And it seems to be what is happening in Israel is continuing in that same tradition of creating bad karma. And it's all going to end in some huge disaster sooner or later.
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by centristdem February 25, 2007 9:30 PM PST
It's depressing how popular it's becoming to whine about commemorations of the Holocaust. The answer to Patrick_Moll, who demands to know why "only" 10% of the war's death matter, is that, of course, no one says that... but no group was the target of an equally systematic attempt to annihilate it and it in particular; with the possible exception of the Gypsies, no one group suffered anything close to the proportional losses of the Jews during the war. Jabberwock11 complains that Jews "milk" the Holocaust. Perhaps Jews don't feel entirely safe when, within living memory of their near extermination, people complain that the Holocaust really didn't matter. And logic07 falls back on the feeble old lie, that the Jews must have done something to Europe to make themselves so hated... doesn't it perhaps make more sense to look at centuries of irrational European antisemitic hysteria for the reason? Certainly, much of what Israel has done with the Palestinians is wrong, but again, have you considered that Jews are determined never to let themselves fall into the hands of anyone, ever again?

I don't intend to respond to, or even read, any responses to this response, but I wanted to make my point. Those who think the Holocaust is such an unimportant distraction might ask themselves, how would you feel if it had happened to you?
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by tuckerndfw February 25, 2007 9:31 PM PST
Who do you think made the following claim:

To solve the Jewish Question, he maintained %u201Cwe must, above all, make it an international political issue.%u201D[1]He wrote that Zionism offered the world a welcome %u201Cfinal solution of the Jewish question.%u201D[2]In his %u201CDiaries%u201D, page 19, He stated %u201CAnti-Semites will become our surest friends, anti-Semitic countries our allies.%u201D


Adolf Hitler? David Duke? Alfred Rosenberg (supervised all death camps in E. Europe)?

No, it was Theodor Herzl, the man who formalized Zionism as a political party in 1897, as it is today.

Zionists were the founding members of the German Nazi party, so it is easy to see how German Nazis could have been seen as Zionists' allies.

Mainly because they were.

Adolf Hitler is the father of modern day Israel.

Reference: http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/nazisupport.cfm

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by scott4261 February 25, 2007 9:32 PM PST
Scott, That's a little over the top, even for you.
Posted by HawkSprings at 07:58 PM

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"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Hermann Goering - Nazi

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." - Joseph Goebbels - Hitler's Minister of Propaganda

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Now tell me, Hawk. Is it over the top? George W. Bush is a very dangerous man.
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by tuckerndfw February 25, 2007 9:45 PM PST
Given all the Zionist propaganda (to deflect their role in the holocaust) it is highly unlikely anyone has an accurate memory of what actually occurred.

Did anyone else ever wonder how it is that if Nazis killed so many Jews, where did all those immmigrants to Palestine come from? You would think they would have had a very difficult time forming a state. Or even wanting a state with so few people to populate it.

Or, maybe the numbers have been dramatically inflated.
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by gunownerdan February 25, 2007 10:17 PM PST
Here is Adolf Hitler's racist gun control law from 1938 banning Jews from owning weapons:

"Jews are prohibited from acquiring, possessing, and carrying firearms and ammunition, as well as truncheons or stabbing weapons.
Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority.
Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew's possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation.
Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions...will be punished with imprisonment and a fine.
Berlin, 11 November 1938
Minister of the Interior
Frick" - Nazi Weapons Law of November 11, 1938
http://www.jpfo.org/NaziLawGerman.htm

Hitler made sure the Jews were defenseless before he butchered millions of them!

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to
possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry
arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing."
-- Adolf Hitler, Hitler's Secret Conversations 403 (Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens trans., 1961)

"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need
guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State." -- Heinrich Himmler, Hitler's SS leader

http://www.a-human-right.com
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by themooniac February 25, 2007 10:18 PM PST
truckerndfw = Mel Gibson = holocaust denier = friend of Iran. Yeah, the holocaust was just an exaggeration...
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by tuckerndfw February 25, 2007 10:27 PM PST
the holocaust was just an exaggeration...

Posted by themooniac at 10:18 PM : Feb 25, 2007

That is a very likely possibility.

But, how did you conclude I denied the holocaust, am a drunken, Catholic movie producer or friend of Iran?

I noticed you avoided the underlying question in your haste to launch meanignless ad hominiem attacks.

Which is a typical Zionist response. Which is further evidence that promoting the holocaust is more important than the facts.
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by isugrad93 February 25, 2007 10:30 PM PST
Thank you, Scott, for sharing two of my favorite quotes. It amazes me that this same type of thinking is still being used today to justify war and the destruction of human life. We have learned nothing from the past and are continuously repeating it. That's why education regarding any human atrocity (slavery, the Holocaust, Darfur)is so neccessary. Maybe someday we, collectively as a world, will finally "get it".

Thank you also, CentristDem, for articulating what frustrated and angered me enough to post here for the first time. You cannot quantify human suffering. Is one group's pain somehow more worthy of our sympathy than another's? What amount of death is acceptable or justifiable? If we begin to look past the numbers and place value on the individual lives, we become more able to comprehend and be appalled by the horror of it. Does it really matter whether is is 6,000 or 600 or 60 who were tortured and murdered? If it was our son, daughter, sister, brother, father, mother or friend, or our own experience, the only number of significance would be that "1".

If certain people want to play the numbers game we could apply it to our own "statistics" in Iraq. Does less troops dead in Iraq than in Viet Nam or WWII make it less tragic? I hope no one thinks so.

"One death is a tragedy. One million is a statistic." Stalin

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by isugrad93 February 25, 2007 10:30 PM PST
Thank you, Scott, for sharing two of my favorite quotes. It amazes me that this same type of thinking is still being used today to justify war and the destruction of human life. We have learned nothing from the past and are continuously repeating it. That's why education regarding any human atrocity (slavery, the Holocaust, Darfur)is so neccessary. Maybe someday we, collectively as a world, will finally "get it".

Thank you also, CentristDem, for articulating what frustrated and angered me enough to post here for the first time. You cannot quantify human suffering. Is one group's pain somehow more worthy of our sympathy than another's? What amount of death is acceptable or justifiable? If we begin to look past the numbers and place value on the individual lives, we become more able to comprehend and be appalled by the horror of it. Does it really matter whether is is 6,000 or 600 or 60 who were tortured and murdered? If it was our son, daughter, sister, brother, father, mother or friend, or our own experience, the only number of significance would be that "1".

If certain people want to play the numbers game we could apply it to our own "statistics" in Iraq. Does less troops dead in Iraq than in Viet Nam or WWII make it less tragic? I hope no one thinks so.

"One death is a tragedy. One million is a statistic." Stalin

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by logic07 February 25, 2007 10:41 PM PST
have you considered that Jews are determined never to let themselves fall into the hands of anyone, ever again?

Posted by CentristDem at 09:30 PM : Feb 25, 2007

I supposed this justifies stealing land from others, and creating a Palestinian ghetto in their own land.

The law of karma is cause and effect. Things happen for a reason. Where there's an effect, there's a cause.

Blaming irrational europeans is just taking the easy way out. It is always easier to blame others. Why not look at what the Isrealis are doing right now and ask yourself if that's creating good karma?
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by rudy654-2009 February 25, 2007 11:08 PM PST
Once again the neo-nazis and white supremacists flood the boards with their hate speech and denial of mass genocide. It gets old. If for no other reason than to get rid of the trash that haunts this place with their hate and violent speech, CBS would do well to get rid of these boards and make you all go back under that slimy rock you came out from under.
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by rdchawk February 25, 2007 11:13 PM PST
In your 60 Minute story about the Jews-- Did you know that Hitler killed more non-combatant Christians than Jews? If you don't, I understand. This fact was never publicized. Probably never will be. It is news that does not fit.

Dr. Robert Hawkins, Santa Barbara
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by gunownerdan February 25, 2007 11:33 PM PST
HOLOCAUST? These Jews said NEVER AGAIN!
www.JPFO.org
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership

"Jews are prohibited from acquiring, possessing, and carrying firearms and ammunition, as well as truncheons or stabbing weapons.
Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority.
Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew's possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation.
Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions...will be punished with imprisonment and a fine.
Berlin, 11 November 1938
Minister of the Interior
Frick" - Nazi Weapons Law of November 11, 1938
http://www.jpfo.org/NaziLawGerman.htm
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by nwredhead February 25, 2007 11:43 PM PST
Strangest thing happened while I was watching the Oscars...weird, frankly. Seems I am Jewish, on my Dad's side, but have not really inquired about that for various reasons.

This is not comfortable to post, but once you find yourself on a roll, there may be a reason.

Something compelled me to ring my Dad. I told him I was watching the Oscars, but also that I was curious about my Jewish heritage.

My Dad replied he was watching 60 Minutes. No mention of the story. Then he said he had to go. We don't have the best of relationships, and initially I was sad -- one more time he disconnects. I thought.

Then I changed the channel. To 60 Minutes. Holy ***. Here are kids acting in a play that will never be on the Oscar Channel.

I watched and saw things that helped me understand some things a bit more.

I Googled the show because I did not get to see the entire episode.

Here I find anger and sorry to say this, but stupidity.

The Stupid Stupid Stupid thing I see is that people are still allowing old hurts to make things worse. Peeling scabs makes scars. And here I'm going to say please do not hate me or think anything about me good or bad, you don't know me.

Why not give a different perspective a chance? Why not take a step back and take a breath before a knee-jerk reaction. What could it harm?
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by tonii2-2009 February 25, 2007 11:44 PM PST
What do these Jews think of the Zionist Terrorists violations of International Law, United Nations Resolutions, and the inhuman treatment of the Palestine People?

Do they approve of the United States supporting these Terrorists and members of the US Government calling them their friend Israel?

Do they support the NON-Investigation of the alleged massacres committed by the Zionist Terrorists? Do they know how many people are buried in the Zionist Enemies Cemeteries?

Have they had an open, free, uninhibited visit with the Palestine people to see how they are being treated? How the Palestine homes and livelihoods are bulldozed and replaced with Zionist Terrorists illegal homes?

Will any of the United States Media do an honest and open documentary on how the Palestine Land was taken over by the Zionist Terrorists and how the Palestine People have been treated since then?

www.CitizenAmendments.org
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by logic07 February 25, 2007 11:45 PM PST
Once again the neo-nazis and white supremacists flood the boards with their hate speech and denial of mass genocide.

Posted by rudy654 at 11:08 PM : Feb 25, 2007

It is always convenient to use the "antisemitic," the "neo-nazi" and the "white supremacist" label to attack anyone who would dare to question the unjust policies of Israel.

What Israel is doing in Palestine is an outrage to civilized society and nothing, not even the holocaust, justifies it.

For a people who has suffered so much and yes, I have never denied the holocaust, I would expect more compassion and understanding of human suffering.

Go ahead, use that same old tired line again, if you're against the policies of Isreal, you're a neo-nazi. If you're against the injustice done against the Plaestinians, you're a white supremacist.
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by hhlev February 26, 2007 1:13 AM PST
Unfortunately CBS showed this program at a time when the available audience was enthralled by the Oscar Awards. From the comments I just read, this program should be shown again and perhaps a lot more people will feel unconcomfortable about what happened to so many people, regardless of race and religion in the name of "reinheit".
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by hhlev February 26, 2007 1:21 AM PST

Why was this program shown during Oscar Awards program when a minimal viewing audience was available? You have reshown some other past programs, how about this one?
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by hhlev February 26, 2007 1:33 AM PST
Why pick a time coinciding with the oscar awards?
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by hermit22 February 26, 2007 2:18 AM PST
the difference between hitler's holocaust and the modern day abortion holocaust is the size of the people.
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by karlimhof February 26, 2007 4:06 AM PST
Will any of the United States Media do an honest and open documentary on how the Palestine Land was taken over by the Zionist Terrorists and how the Palestine People have been treated since then?
tonii2


Right on - that would be NEWS. I'd bet the AIPAC phones would be ringing Cheney^s office within seconds.

If the American people knew what really was happening everyday in the Occupied Territories to the Palestinian people, there would be an uproar!
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by bluestardad February 26, 2007 7:17 AM PST
There is starting to be a backlash against Israel and other Middle Eastern countries among the American Public for meddling in the politics of our nation and fighting their proxy wars. It seems that from time to time the media runs these types of articles in order to ensure America does not forget how badly the Jewish People had it in Europe and how America should continue to give special treatment to Israel because of past wrongs. Israeli lobbying groups are selling access to American elected as you can see in their lobbying group advertisement below.

http://www.aipac.org/forms/join_aipacClubs.htm

Blind support of Israel is hurting American interest abroad. For years no one would say anything against promoting the Israeli agenda for fear of being labeled an anti-Semitist but now America is learning it is also acceptable to disagree with Israeli promoters like these AIPAC members who would gladly sell thousands of American soldier%u2019s lives to promote Israeli interest! America did not perpetrate the wrongs of Europe against its people over 70 years ago and are not responsible for correcting them now! The longer we interject American military and money in the Middle East the longer the problems will exists.
Who cares if a country doesn%u2019t recognize Israel%u2019s right to exist? For years America did not recognize Peoples Republic of China%u2019s right to exist either!
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by gunownerdan February 26, 2007 7:32 AM PST
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot, Mussolini, Idi Amin, Mugabe, (just to name a few)
have all banned their subjects from owning weapons - rendering their victims defenseless before butchering millions of them during the 20th century just because of their race, religion, or political affiliation.

Here is Adolf Hitler's racist gun control law from 1938 banning Jews from owning weapons:

"Jews are prohibited from acquiring, possessing, and carrying firearms and ammunition, as well as truncheons or stabbing weapons.
Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority.
Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew's possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation.
Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions...will be punished with imprisonment and a fine.
Berlin, 11 November 1938
Minister of the Interior
Frick" - Nazi Weapons Law of November 11, 1938
http://www.jpfo.org/NaziLawGerman.htm

Hitler made sure the Jews were defenseless before he butchered millions of them!

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to
possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry
arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing."
-- Adolf Hitler, Hitler's Secret Conversations 403 (Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens trans., 1961)

a-human-right.com
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by karlimhof February 26, 2007 8:19 AM PST
Who cares if a country doesn%u2019t recognize Israel%u2019s right to exist? For years America did not recognize Peoples Republic of China%u2019s right to exist either!

Posted by bluestardad

I agree with you - BUT fact is Israel doesn't want their recognition - they have Uncle Sam.
And since they don't want to give back the land they've stolen from the Palestinians, and America is willing to send their boys to fight for them, what the hell - we'll just keep all of Palestine!
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by csusewind February 26, 2007 9:44 AM PST
I found the piece on Brundibar to be very interesting. This directly relates to a current unit of study I am doing with my 8th grade students. They are examining the connections between what happened during the Holocaust and what is currently going on in Darfur. They are very interested in getting involved to help people remember the Holocaust while at the same time raising awareness to genocide in Darfur. They are investigating doing a fundraiser and I feel a performance of this musical would be fitting. If anyone knows where I can get a copy of the musical please let me know. Many thanks for an inspiring story.

C. Susewind
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by csusewind February 26, 2007 9:54 AM PST
I found the piece on Brundibar to be very interesting. This directly relates to a current unit of study I am doing with my 8th grade students. They are examining the connections between what happened during the Holocaust and what is currently going on in Darfur. They are very interested in getting involved to help people remember the Holocaust while at the same time raising awareness to genocide in Darfur. They are investigating doing a fundraiser and I feel a performance of this musical would be fitting. If anyone knows where I can get a copy of the musical please let me know. Many thanks for an inspiring story.

C. Susewind
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by inventagod February 26, 2007 10:01 AM PST
Dubya was delighted to hear about this musical, and has demanded the cast to play in the White House. He does, however, want the theme to be 'Burkas in Baghdad'...
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by csusewind February 26, 2007 10:02 AM PST
I found the piece on Brundibar to be very interesting. This directly relates to a current unit of study I am doing with my 8th grade students. They are examining the connections between what happened during the Holocaust and what is currently going on in Darfur. They are very interested in getting involved to help people remember the Holocaust while at the same time raising awareness to genocide in Darfur. They are investigating doing a fundraiser and I feel a performance of this musical would be fitting. If anyone knows where I can get a copy of the musical please let me know. Many thanks for an inspiring story.

C. Susewind
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by dsellers75 February 26, 2007 10:15 AM PST
For any of those interested in listening to the opera Brundibar I highly recommend checking it out at http://www.amazon.com/Hans-Kr%C3%A1sa-Brundib%C3%A1r-Michael-Drumheller/dp/B000K97RKC/sr=1-1/qid=1172502589/ref=sr_1_1/104-0300473-8194362?ie=UTF8&s=music

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by jabberwock11 February 26, 2007 10:50 AM PST
"Jabberwock11 complains that Jews "milk" the Holocaust."

I did not complain. I just stated how I see it. Milking your tragedy is a right, covered under freedom of speech. In fact maybe other groups should take a clue and start milking their tragedies too. The down side is if you milk it too much there can always be some sort of backlash.
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by jairod February 26, 2007 11:17 AM PST
To bluestardad & karlimhof:
It has always been this with the French, the Spanish and the English. Just ask the native Americans what they think of manifest destiny. Do you remember the Alamo? That was just another excuse for a "land grab." The problem is that we Americans have been so successful in that -manifest destiney - that others have taken up the idea only we condemn them for it.
Just a thought.
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by house015 February 26, 2007 11:33 AM PST
I cannot believe the wholly offensive things I am reading here. We should all have to hear about the holocaust, and not because of Israel or jewish interests, but to focus our attention on stopping other genocide that creeps up on the edges of our view. Ever heard of Darfur? And for the record, the Jews had already bought and paid for approximately 30% of the land they currently occupy, and were given a lot of land no one else wanted. Now that they have worked hard to make it liveable, the Palestinians want it. Israel withdraws from land and gives it back, the Palestinians are still sending suicide bombers. If any of the other middle eastern nations were honest, they would 'fess up to just not wanting the Palestinians moving onto their land. Focus the energy on the Jews and away from their own internal struggles that are the real poison in their society.
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by house015 February 26, 2007 11:36 AM PST
I cannot believe the wholly offensive things I am reading here. We should all have to hear about the holocaust, and not because of Israel or jewish interests, but to focus our attention on stopping other genocide that creeps up on the edges of our view. Ever heard of Darfur? And for the record, the Jews had already bought and paid for approximately 30% of the land they currently occupy, and were given a lot of land no one else wanted. Now that they have worked hard to make it liveable, the Palestinians want it. Israel withdraws from land and gives it back, the Palestinians are still sending suicide bombers. If any of the other middle eastern nations were honest, they would 'fess up to just not wanting the Palestinians moving onto their land. Focus the energy on the Jews and away from their own internal struggles that are the real poison in their society.
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by house015 February 26, 2007 11:36 AM PST
I cannot believe the wholly offensive things I am reading here. We should all have to hear about the holocaust, and not because of Israel or jewish interests, but to focus our attention on stopping other genocide that creeps up on the edges of our view. Ever heard of Darfur? And for the record, the Jews had already bought and paid for approximately 30% of the land they currently occupy, and were given a lot of land no one else wanted. Now that they have worked hard to make it liveable, the Palestinians want it. Israel withdraws from land and gives it back, the Palestinians are still sending suicide bombers. If any of the other middle eastern nations were honest, they would 'fess up to just not wanting the Palestinians moving onto their land. Focus the energy on the Jews and away from their own internal struggles that are the real poison in their society.
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by house015 February 26, 2007 11:36 AM PST
I cannot believe the wholly offensive things I am reading here. We should all have to hear about the holocaust, and not because of Israel or jewish interests, but to focus our attention on stopping other genocide that creeps up on the edges of our view. Ever heard of Darfur? And for the record, the Jews had already bought and paid for approximately 30% of the land they currently occupy, and were given a lot of land no one else wanted. Now that they have worked hard to make it liveable, the Palestinians want it. Israel withdraws from land and gives it back, the Palestinians are still sending suicide bombers. If any of the other middle eastern nations were honest, they would 'fess up to just not wanting the Palestinians moving onto their land. Focus the energy on the Jews and away from their own internal struggles that are the real poison in their society.
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by house015 February 26, 2007 11:37 AM PST
I cannot believe the wholly offensive things I am reading here. We should all have to hear about the holocaust, and not because of Israel or jewish interests, but to focus our attention on stopping other genocide that creeps up on the edges of our view. Ever heard of Darfur? And for the record, the Jews had already bought and paid for approximately 30% of the land they currently occupy, and were given a lot of land no one else wanted. Now that they have worked hard to make it liveable, the Palestinians want it. Israel withdraws from land and gives it back, the Palestinians are still sending suicide bombers. If any of the other middle eastern nations were honest, they would 'fess up to just not wanting the Palestinians moving onto their land. Focus the energy on the Jews and away from their own internal struggles that are the real poison in their society.
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by house015 February 26, 2007 11:37 AM PST
I cannot believe the wholly offensive things I am reading here. We should all have to hear about the holocaust, and not because of Israel or jewish interests, but to focus our attention on stopping other genocide that creeps up on the edges of our view. Ever heard of Darfur?
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by house015 February 26, 2007 11:41 AM PST
A thousand apologies for the number of entries - the submission system clearly is a mess. I will NEVER hit that button more than once again. Sorry!
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by gunownerdan February 26, 2007 12:22 PM PST
"In Germany, the Nazis first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't Jewish.
Then they came for the trade unionist,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant,
Then they came for the homosexuals,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a homosexual,
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one left to speak for me."
-- Rev. Martin Niemoeller, German Lutheran Pastor
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by Syndicate February 26, 2007 12:26 PM PST
They said never again but I think it only applys to the Jews. If a jew were to ever face this situation again would he beleive the lies told to him or would he sense what was comming and fight back? Just like 911 the first few plane fulls beleived the lies and were passive. Flight 93 new the truth and fought back.
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by bluestardad February 26, 2007 12:41 PM PST
It seems that from time to time the media runs these types of articles in order to ensure America does not forget how badly the Jewish People had it in Europe and how America should continue to give special treatment to Israel because of past wrongs. Israeli lobbying groups are selling access to American elected as you can see in their lobbying group advertisement below.

http://www.aipac.org/forms/join_aipacClubs.htm

Blind support of Israel is hurting American interest abroad. For years no one would say anything against promoting the Israeli agenda for fear of being labeled an anti-Semitist but now America is learning it is also acceptable to disagree with Israeli promoters like these AIPAC members who would gladly sell thousands of American soldier%u2019s lives to promote Israeli interest! America did not perpetrate the wrongs of Europe against its people over 70 years ago and are not responsible for correcting them now! There is starting to be a backlash against Israel and other Middle Eastern countries among the American Public for meddling in the politics of our nation and fighting their proxy wars. The longer we interject American military and money in the Middle East the longer the problems will exists. Who cares if a country does not recognize Israels right to exist? For years America did not recognize Peoples Republic of Chinas right to exist either!
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