February 11, 2009 5:18 PM

Small Children In Detention Centers

(CBS/AP)  Immigrant families, many with small children, are allegedly being kept in jail-like conditions in Texas and Pennsylvania, according to advocacy groups who say the Texas facility is inhumane and should be shut down.

In a report being released Thursday, the groups seek the immediate closing of the T. Don Hutto Residential Center, about 30 miles northeast of Austin. The center, which opened in May, used to be a jail and is operated by Corrections Corporation of America, the nation's largest owner and operator of for-profit prisons and other detention facilities – so many that CCA is in its own right the fifth largest operator of prisons in the U.S., following the federal government and three states.

The groups issuing the report - Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services and the Women's Commission for Refugee Women and Children – say their findings are based on their members' visits and interviews with detainees, many of whom cried as they told their stories.

At the Hutto site, according to the report, a child secretly passed a visitor a note that read: "Help us and ask us questions."

"What hits you the hardest in there is that it's a prison. In Hutto, it's a prison," said Michelle BranDe, detention and asylum project director for Women's Commission for Refugee Women and Children.

The two groups also investigated conditions at the Berks County Shelter Care facility, a former nursing home in Leesport, Pa., about 50 miles southwest of Allentown.

The report says Berks, compared to Hutto, is "less jail-like," with a better education system for children and field trips for families. But it also has problems, the groups said. It is part of a larger juvenile facility housing U.S. citizens charged with or convicted of crimes and detained juveniles.

The groups are suggesting that families who are not found to be a security risk should be released. They also recommend less punitive alternatives to the detention centers, such as parole, electronic bracelets and shelters run by nonprofit groups.

"Unless there's some crime or some danger, families don't belong in detention," said Ralston H. Deffenbaugh, president of the Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service. "This whole idea of trying to throw kids and their parents in a penal-like situation is destructive of all the normal family relationships we take for granted."

The Homeland Security Department defends the centers as a workable solution to the problem of illegal immigrants being released, only to disappear while awaiting hearings. Also, they deter smugglers who endanger children, said Mark Raimondi, spokesman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the DHS division that oversees detention facilities.

"ICE's detention facilities maintain safe, secure and humane conditions and invest heavily in the welfare of the detained alien population," Raimondi said.

White House press secretary Tony Snow said last week that finding facilities for families is difficult, and "you have to do the best with what you've got."

Other findings by the groups:

  • At Hutto – which according to the AP, housed some 200 children as of early February - cell door systems prevent parents from attending to children after "lights out." At the Berks shelter, children over 5 sleep separately from their parents.

  • Until recently, Hutto children were given one hour of schooling a day, five days a week. That was recently increased to four hours.

  • Teachers at the Hutto center are not required to be licensed in Texas and the state's family welfare agency exempted Hutto from child care licensing requirements.

  • Separation and threats of separation were used as tools to discipline both adults and children.


    The Department of Homeland Security opened the Hutto center after Congress criticized the agency's separation of migrant children from their parents.

    The detention centers are operated without official regulations. Immigration and Customs Enforcement relies on custody rules designed for inmates.

    The Pennsylvania center - the Berks County Shelter Care Facility - has about 84 beds and the Texas facility can house up to 512 people. The groups fear that government will expand detentions in similar facilities.
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    by gunownerdan February 23, 2007 10:37 AM EST
    "In Germany, the Nazis first came for the communists,
    and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist.
    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn't speak up because I wasn't Jewish.
    Then they came for the trade unionist,
    and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade
    unionist.
    Then they came for the Catholics,
    and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant,
    Then they came for the homosexuals,
    and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a homosexual,
    Then they came for me,
    and by that time there was no one left to speak for
    me."
    -- Rev. Martin Niemoeller, German Lutheran Pastor
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    by mdmx66 February 23, 2007 2:34 AM EST
    OK, make the orphanages on this side.
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    by lestb35 February 23, 2007 2:26 AM EST
    Fine, keep the anchor baby kids here and deport the parents. Then maybe they'll think twice about coming here to have their kids for free.
    Reply to this comment
    by mdmx66 February 23, 2007 2:22 AM EST
    then your problems with who remains in this land will cease to be a bother for you.
    Posted by Agnim at 10:59 PM : Feb 22, 2007


    It's not just my problem, it's all of our problem. We have laws and they're not being enforced. If YOU care so much about the illegal immigrants why don't YOU go to Mexico and volunteer YOUR time to the poor citizens of Mexico.
    Reply to this comment
    by mdmx66 February 23, 2007 2:19 AM EST
    Maybe we could DEPORT YOU back to where you originated...

    You don't even want to know how far back you'd have to go. This is a country Agnim, not a dumping ground.
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    by mdmx66 February 23, 2007 2:16 AM EST
    No doubt many of those children are Americans by birth, just like you.Posted by Agnim at 10:59 PM : Feb 22, 2007


    No not just like me, I was born to legal American citizens.
    Reply to this comment
    by agnim February 23, 2007 1:59 AM EST
    "Deport the kids to an American run orphanage in Mexico and the parents will follow. Brilliant.
    Posted by mdmx66 at 08:20 PM : Feb 22, 2007"

    LOL

    There is that small problem of deporting AMERICANS!
    No doubt many of those children are Americans by birth, just like you.

    Maybe we could DEPORT YOU back to where you originated; then your problems with who remains in this land will cease to be a bother for you.
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    by mdmx66 February 23, 2007 1:13 AM EST
    Hmm, sort of mirrors what the rich think of the poor in the US too.Posted by pakaal at 09:51 PM : Feb 22, 2007

    You think so. We aren't sending our poor to other countries begging for services.
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    by pakaal February 23, 2007 12:51 AM EST
    "Are you really so naive as to think that there are no rich people in Mexico. They don't want the poor people, they don't like the poor people, they think they are peasant peon slaves."

    Hmm, sort of mirrors what the rich think of the poor in the US too. Guess that kinda explains what we're doing throwing little kids in jail, huh? Well at least it's a "for profit" prison so they can hopefully get around all those annoying child labor laws and put those kids to work!
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    by mdmx66 February 22, 2007 11:25 PM EST
    Isn't it ironic that Americans care more about the children of Mexico than Mexican citizens do. Are you really so naive as to think that there are no rich people in Mexico. They don't want the poor people, they don't like the poor people, they think they are peasant peon slaves. They think it's funny that we take them in and feed, clothe, house and educate their dregges of society. Mexico should be ashamed.
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