WASHINGTON, Feb. 20, 2007

Big Tobacco Gets Big Win In High Court

Supreme Court Throws Out $79.5M Punitive Damages Verdict Against Philip Morris

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(CBS/AP)  The Supreme Court on Tuesday threw out a $79.5 million punitive damages award to a smoker's widow, a boon to businesses seeking stricter limits on big-dollar jury verdicts.

The 5-4 ruling was a victory for Altria Group Inc.'s Philip Morris USA, which contested an Oregon Supreme Court decision upholding the verdict.

In the majority opinion, written by Justice Stephen Breyer, the court said the verdict could not stand because the jury in the case was not instructed that it could punish Philip Morris only for the harm done to the plaintiff, not to other smokers whose cases were not before it.

States must "provide assurances that juries are not asking the wrong question ... seeking, not simply to determine reprehensibility, but also to punish for harm caused strangers," Breyer said.

The decision did not address whether the size of the award was constitutionally excessive, as Philip Morris had asked. Philip Morris USA is based in Richmond, Va.

"This is a big-deal decision," said CBS News legal analyst Andrew Cohen. "It goes beyond tobacco cases and will help corporations and other defendants to avoid huge punitive damage awards in the future. It does not eliminate them, but it does make it harder for plaintiffs and judges to impose awards that are way beyond what's needed to compensate victims."

Punitive damages are money intended to punish a defendant for its behavior and to deter repetition.

Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy and David Souter, joined with Breyer.

Dissenting were Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Antonin Scalia, John Paul Stevens and Clarence Thomas.

The dissents in this case were heated, reports CBS News correspondent Wyatt Andrews. Justice Stevens said that harm to other people needs to be considered. He wrote: "A murderer who kills ... (with) ... a bomb that injures dozens ... should be punished more severely than one who ...(only) ... harms ... his intended victim."

Mayola Williams sued Philip Morris for fraud on behalf of her husband, a two-pack-a-day smoker of Marlboros for 45 years. Jesse Williams died of lung cancer more than nine years ago. Philip Morris makes Marlboros.

She argued the jury award was appropriate because it punishes Philip Morris' misconduct for a decades-long "massive market-directed fraud" that misled people into thinking cigarettes were not dangerous or addictive.

Williams, according to his widow, never gave any credence to the surgeon general's health warnings about smoking cigarettes because tobacco companies insisted they were safe. Only after falling sick did Williams tell his wife: "Those darn cigarette people finally did it. They were lying all the time."

The cigarette maker, however, said a jury can punish the company only for the harm done to Williams, not to other smokers. The jury should have been told explicitly that other smokers, no matter how tragic their stories, would have to prove their own cases, the company said.

The Chamber of Commerce, National Association of Manufacturers and trade associations representing car and drug makers have weighed in on behalf of tighter restrictions on damage awards.

The case also was watched closely as a test of whether the new makeup of the Supreme Court would lead to changes in its prior rulings limiting punitive damages.

Roberts and Alito, the two newest members, were in the majority Tuesday, giving no hint of a change in the court's approach to punitive damages.

The case is Philip Morris USA v. Williams, 05-1256.


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by antoniof123 February 20, 2007 11:15 AM PST
So we let murders go free thank you to the new courts. Do these morons understand that when the backlash hits it will be worst then if they would have just left things alone. So much for the new courts I wish that they were replaced as well. This administration and its criminals should all be behind bars. We are going back to the time of buyer beware and not holding those responsible for their actions. What do you except we had the most criminal bunch in power for the last 12 years I hope that America has learned from this that you can not trust those that would put special interest ahead of the common good.
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by perception5 February 20, 2007 11:27 AM PST
For some reason CBS/AP censored this story and left out an interesting fact:

"An Oregon jury had ruled in favor of the estate of building custodian Jesse Williams, who died in 1997 after having smoked as many as three packs per day for 47 years."

Corporations and individuals "BOTH" need to take responsibility for these types of situations.
Corportations, can not knowingly produce products for the consumer market that they know are "health or safety" issues....... and
Consumers, need to take responsible action when "health and saftey" issues are communicated through our media.....
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by suiteo1 February 20, 2007 11:28 AM PST
To antoniof123,

I agree with most of your post. Bottom line is, money, especially lots of it, will rule in the end if you have it. Just ask O.J.
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by processor2 February 20, 2007 11:29 AM PST
HEADLINE

Supreme Court Justices Throw Out $79.5M Punitive Damages Verdict Against Philip Morris


GOOD FOR THE SUPREME COURT

It says on the cigarette package that smoking will make you sick and cause cancer.

Sue-ing cigarette companies for making people sick would be like sue-ing Playboy for giving people carpal tunnel syndrome.

Neither makes any sense.

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by agnim February 20, 2007 11:52 AM PST
"Neither makes any sense.
Posted by processor2 at 11:29 AM : Feb 20, 2007"

We should not have citizens operating businesses that knowingly provides poison for profit.

Personal responsiblity has very little meaning when addictions are involved.
The children/younger minds are first provided with the cigarette poison to get them addicted in their youth.
When they become addicted adults, mere warning on cigarete boxes HAVE NO effect!

If warnings were that effective, then all we would need to do is to put warning on alcohol bottles, and drunkards would stop immediately, yes?

Also, by your witless argument, we can let cocaine loose in the country by only demanding that drug dealers put warning label on the packages of cocaine, no?.

Even prescription drugs with CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS are being abused and creating addictions.

So one good solution is to PUT THE COMPANIES THAT SELL CIGARETTES POISON OUT OF BUSINESS.
Only a mere business will suffer; but no individual will directly suffer. People will just go with another kind of business.

And finally, first one has to have sense for things to 'make sense'. OK?
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by Syndicate February 20, 2007 11:53 AM PST
Ther cigarette companies can manipulate the levels of Nicotine. Latley they have been increasing the levels. They should be held responsible for this. The Government should also be held accountable for subsidizing the farmers. Yes cigarettes are labeled but if you could make them non addictive by removing the nicotine over the next three years shouldn't it be done?
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by scott4261 February 20, 2007 11:57 AM PST
I had smoked for a total of 29 years when I finally quit "cold turkey." I smoked my last cigarette at 11:40 pm on December 31st, 2006. I had tried to quit numerous times in the past, but as soon as a new crisis developed, I would return to smoking (at lest, that was my excuse). This time, I was finally sick and tired of being (literally) sick and tired.

Less than 2 months later I can walk, and even run, without being out of breath. At 45, I am getting back into shape at a remarkably fast pace. I'm only 20 lbs. overweight, so the exercise will help me to manage that. Point is: I feel great now.

I'm writing this only to say that cigarettes are harmful and deadly. And don't fool yourselves. I made the choice to put the cigarettes up to my lips, but Phillip Morris and R.J. Reynolds have always made sure that I craved those nasty things enough to keep coming back for more.
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by processor2 February 20, 2007 11:58 AM PST
CBS HEADLINE: Supreme Court Justices Throw Out $79.5M Punitive Damages Verdict Against Philip Morris

GOOD FOR THE SUPREME COURT

It says on the cigarette package that smoking will make you sick and cause cancer.

Suing cigarette companies for making people sick would be like suing Playboy for giving people carpal tunnel syndrome.

Neither makes any sense.

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by mitywhity February 20, 2007 12:03 PM PST
Suing cigarette companies for making people sick would be like suing Playboy for giving people carpal tunnel syndrome.

That was wry. Touche' old boy. I agree, you can't get Budweiser to buy you a new liver either.
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by mitywhity February 20, 2007 12:06 PM PST
With personal liberty comes personal responsibility. If you don't value that liberty then keep deferring your responsibility to the government and soon it will be all but a memory.

Sounds kind of like a Spiderman excerpt. Oh well - it's true.
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by dpp8933 February 20, 2007 12:19 PM PST
the cigarette companies did not put the cigarette's in peoples hands. so they should not have to be held responsible for the actions we take.
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by scott4261 February 20, 2007 12:21 PM PST
George W. Bush is making sure that he is stacking the courts with conservatives. When the Democrats take the White House in 2008, the Judicial branch of government will be in conservative hands and it will be for many years. This is just the beginning of a new "judicial activism" from the right. Think I%u2019m joking? You watch...W has put his stamp on the courts for years to come!
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by jn122736 February 20, 2007 12:25 PM PST
%u201CIt says on the cigarette package that smoking will make you sick and cause cancer.

Suing cigarette companies for making people sick would be like suing Playboy for giving people carpal tunnel syndrome.

Neither makes any sense.%u201D
Posted by processor2 at 11:58 AM : Feb 20, 2007
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Cigarette companies were finally required to post warnings on the packages, but they increased their advertising campaigns, in effect telling people to ignore the warnings, that cigarettes really would not harm them.

They dramatically increased the addictive chemical (nicotine) and deliberately targeted the very young. They also lied to congress about knowing that nicotine was addictive.

These are or should be punishable, criminal acts. Neither the tobacco companies nor any executives have ever been held accountable because corporate America now owns/controls our government, ALL BRANCHES.
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by scott4261 February 20, 2007 12:26 PM PST
Does anyone know how the justices voted? I'm at work and I'm limited to the places I can surf. I noticed that Stephen Breyer, not exactly a conservative, voted with the 5 in the majority and wrote the opinion.....
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by benhocking February 20, 2007 12:39 PM PST
strong scott4261 /strong : From http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/supreme-court-tosses-out-795/story.aspx?guid=%7BD3A21806-A019-4B0F-851E-DEA082E47B73%7D
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The majority opinion was written by Justice Stephen Breyer. He was joined by Chief Justice John Roberts, and justices David Souter, Anthony Kennedy and Samuel Alito.

Justice John Paul Stevens, writing in dissent, said: "I see no reason why an interest in punishing a wrongdoer for harming persons who are not before the court ... should not be taken into consideration when assessing the appropriate sanction for reprehensible conduct."
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by scott4261 February 20, 2007 12:42 PM PST
Thank you, benhocking
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by February 20, 2007 12:46 PM PST
The people in the US always try to pass responsibility off to someone else. It's time to step up to the plate and be responsible for your self. As for making sure the product was addictive well I just don't believe it. They make a product that tastes good to those who use it. If they laced the smokes with rat feces then no one would buy them and they would be out of business...
I quit smoking about 20 years ago. I still miss them but when I quit cold turkey I quit. If I come down with lung cancer tomorrow it still is not the fault of the company that made the Winstons that I loved to smoke.
Stop and look at a ladder for sale in Lowes or Home Depot. Just look at all the signs and stickers to keep the total idiots from hurting themselves.
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by gunnerv1 February 20, 2007 12:47 PM PST
Agnim, what if it was your "Mere Business" that was shut down? and for selling a legal product! I smoke, but I don't like it. You don't have to smoke if you don't want to.
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by jn122736 February 20, 2007 1:14 PM PST
"The people in the US always try to pass responsibility off to someone else. It's time to step up to the plate and be responsible for your self. As for making sure the product was addictive well I just don't believe it."
Posted by nestorius at 12:46 PM : Feb 20, 2007
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Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant to the facts that nicotine IS the addictive ingredient in cigarettes and that the percentage of nicotine in cigarettes HAS RISEN over the last several years.
People are responsible for their actions but that doesn%u2019t excuse the tobacco companies for their actions.

I personally smoked for several years before quitting in 1986.
I was lucky. Today smokers who try to quit face a much harder task due to the stronger nicotine presence now present in cigarettes.
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by bildooreilly February 20, 2007 1:27 PM PST
Time to take the fascist neo nazi no smoking in bars and other businesses BS to the supreme court as well, nobody has the right to tell you that you can't allow a completely legal activity inside of your business, if non smokers don't like it they don't have to go there. Every business owner has the right to decide if they want to allow a completely legal activity themselves. All of this anti smoking *** was copied exactly off of Adolph Hitlers anti smoking ***, it's all about controlling the personal lives of the people, mind your own business you little fascist stooges and if you don't like smoking start your own non smoking bars.
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by Syndicate February 20, 2007 1:49 PM PST
In California its a public health issue. If you want to smoke go outside. If you don't like the state telling you how to run your buisness leave the state. As a smoker I try to be curtious of those who do not wish to inhale the posions I am addicted to. I am pi$$ed off that the tobaco companies have been putting more nicotine in cigarettes as if it wasn't hard enough to quit.
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by jn122736 February 20, 2007 2:03 PM PST
If you, as the owner of a bar, decide to ban smoking and someone lights a cigarette in your establishment, you cannot have them arrested unless they violated a regional law. All you can do is tell the person to leave and if they do not then you must throw them out or call the police in each instance. In any case the damage will have already been done from the act of lighting a cigarette in an enclosed room/building.

Many people don%u2019t seem to understand that breathing the smoke from someone else%u2019s cigarette is no different from, and just as deadly as, inhaling directly.
That is the biggest reason most smokers fail in their first few attempts to quit. Nicotine withdrawal is impossible when it is periodically breathed into the lungs, even in small amounts.

If there exists only one Bar, grocery store etc. in the town/area the problem is even more complex.
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by agnim February 20, 2007 2:07 PM PST
"Agnim, what if it was your "Mere Business" that was shut down? and for selling a legal product! I smoke, but I don't like it. You don't have to smoke if you don't want to.
Posted by gunnerv1 at 12:47 PM : Feb 20, 2007"
If I were in a business that DELIBERATELY GET AMERICANS ADDICTED AND THEM POISON AMERICANS, then please, don't just 'shut down my business'; SHUT ME THE HELL DOWN ALSO because I would have lost my way in life and not fit to be among you!
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by agnim February 20, 2007 2:08 PM PST
Thank you for not smoking. LOL
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by ozziepooh90 February 20, 2007 2:13 PM PST
ok jn122736
if nicotine is so adictive and non=-smokers are inhaling all this smoke why aren't they smokers now if it is so additive?
Everyone just needs to get over it already. Every time you turn around something is bad for you and then in the next 1-2 years it's not.
Pollution is just as bad for you if not worse, why don't we shut done all the factories so we won't breathe that?
It's not the companies fault if people choose to start smoking, yeah maybe they do become addicted to it, but it was the person who choose to start in the first place. JUST GET OVER IT!!!!
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by heresmy2cent February 20, 2007 2:29 PM PST
We have the best federal court system that money can buy.
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by ozziepooh90 February 20, 2007 2:32 PM PST
bildooreilly
I completely agreed with you . I wrote my governor and ask why if people wanted to, they could have an non-smoking bar and a smoking bar, completly separate and same would go for restaurants. I think that would be fair. And then all the poor little Non-smokers would have their way and wouldn't have to deal with the smoke and smokers could go out again. But do you think i heard back from my governor, no it is all about control.
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by bildooreilly February 20, 2007 2:39 PM PST
The Peoples Republic Of California is a perfect example. On most clear days in Los Angeles you can't see a mile in front of your face because of all the smog yet it's a crime to let your customers smoke inside YOUR bar. If you want to talk about a health issue you should adress all of that smog, it's a lot worse for you than smoking cigarettes.



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In California its a public health issue. If you want to smoke go outside. If you don't like the state telling you how to run your buisness leave the state. As a smoker I try to be curtious of those who do not wish to inhale the posions I am addicted to. I am pi$$ed off that the tobaco companies have been putting more nicotine in cigarettes as if it wasn't hard enough to quit.
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by bildooreilly February 20, 2007 2:44 PM PST
Ozziepoo, it's completely up to the owner of the business whether or not they want to cater to non smokers or not. Non smokers are free to open up their own non smoking businesses, they don't want to do that though, they just want to tell everyone else how to run theirs. These people have no right to come in and tell people they can't allow a perfectly legal activity in YOUR business. They're nothing but a bunch of fascist control freaks instituting the exact same anti smoking agenda first brought forth by Adolph Hitler in Nazi Germany. Someone needs to take this BS to the supreme court fast.

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bildooreilly
I completely agreed with you . I wrote my governor and ask why if people wanted to, they could have an non-smoking bar and a smoking bar, completly separate and same would go for restaurants. I think that would be fair. And then all the poor little Non-smokers would have their way and wouldn't have to deal with the smoke and smokers could go out again. But do you think i heard back from my governor, no it is all about control.
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by jn122736 February 20, 2007 2:49 PM PST
ozziepooh90

Children who have no "choice" are exposed to secondhand smoke too.

If you have never smoked, or are still smoking and have never tried to quit, you cannot really know how addictive cigarettes are. If you have quit or failed to quit you should.
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by bildooreilly February 20, 2007 2:51 PM PST
Keep your freakin brats out of bars then. Freakin stupid people.. nobody is forcing you to go to restaurants that allow smoking. If non smoking is such a great idea open up your own non smoking joints, and your bars full of freakin brats. Fvckin stupid people.

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ozziepooh90

Children who have no "choice" are exposed to secondhand smoke too.

If you have never smoked, or are still smoking and have never tried to quit, you cannot really know how addictive cigarettes are. If you have quit or failed to quit you should.
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by processor2 February 20, 2007 2:52 PM PST
CBS HEADLINE: Supreme Court Justices Throw Out $79.5M Punitive Damages Verdict Against Philip Morris

GOOD FOR THE SUPREME COURT

It says on the cigarette package that smoking will make you sick and cause cancer.

Suing cigarette companies for making people sick would be like suing Playboy for giving people carpal tunnel syndrome.

Neither makes any sense.

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by rudy654-2009 February 20, 2007 2:56 PM PST
Tobacco companies don't care about anyone other than their own big bank accounts. They sell a product that not only has no benefit, but kills even the innocent. Smokers should realize that it isn't just about what they do to their own bodies. Those with chidlren should known that the money they spend on their habit, is food taken from their children's mouths. I don't care what happens to tobacco companies. I hope they will be punished some day in the future. Until then...
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by rudy654-2009 February 20, 2007 3:00 PM PST
"It says on the cigarette package that smoking will make you sick and cause cancer."

So, why make and sell a product that does that? Did you know that there are people who were exposed to second hand smoke as children, who later grew up and were diagnosed with lung cancer? Too bad they didn't get much say about that stupid lame warning on the package! A plague on big tobacco and their supporters!
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by c885177 February 20, 2007 3:02 PM PST
what concerns me is the supreme court of the united states just set precedent to not allow punitive damages against a corporate defendant except those specifically to the plaintiff.

they have removed punitive damage awards from juries.

now if a company gets caught in a reprehensible situation. they walk away without any fear of monetary loss. in my opinion this will make corporations even more aggressive in all their actions. the chances of ever getting sued, unless it is a class action lawsuit. just became a moot point. the supreme court just took away one of your rights.
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by dredre2k February 20, 2007 3:09 PM PST
Ban Cigarettes sell the patch or gum instead. Smokers just need their nicotine fix.
This way second hand smoke can stop making everyon else sick, and smokers will have healthy lungs. Why breathe in tar?
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by mdc76082 February 20, 2007 3:22 PM PST
"Williams, according to his widow, never gave any credence to the surgeon general's health warnings about smoking cigarettes because tobacco companies insisted they were safe. Only after falling sick did Williams tell his wife: "Those *** cigarette people finally did it. They were lying all the time.""

Well, evidently what we have here is a failure to listen! Maybe if he would have taken "credence" to the warning, he may be alive today, maybe gained 5 extra yrs, maybe nothing at all, but at least he would have done something instead of absolutely nothing. I smoked for 30yrs and quit. I enjoyed smoking, I to knew it was deadly, and just plain stupid. It's funny cause I never hear a smoker say, "I want to die of lung cancer when I grow up." All I ever hear is, "It's my choice." "It's my right." Absolutely true in every manner, but you might as well put your lips around the exhaust pipe of your car and inhale. Batting the rights issue on something like this is a lost cause. The health issues will more likely prevail. As for second hand smoke...I just wonder how many toxins we breath in, in every breath we take?

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by ckcool192000 February 20, 2007 3:23 PM PST
No one forces anyone to smoke. PERIOD. If a person chooses to smoke then it is their choice and their fault when they die of lung cancer, NOT the tobbaco company.

Want an example? A guy eats at McDonalds every day, he gets fat, and has a heart attack.

If we apply the same mentality that most of you are using with the tobbaco companies, McDonalds should be suied for selling him the burgers that caused his heart attack.

These types of lawsuits suggest that the common person cannot think for themselves, that a person is to stupid to realize that smoking is bad for you. They realize it...they just don't care or their addicted to it and can't stop. So stop supporting these lawsuits that basically say that the common man or woman is not capable of thinking for themselves.
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by processor2 February 20, 2007 3:28 PM PST
CBS HEADLINE: Supreme Court Justices Throw Out $79.5M Punitive Damages Verdict Against Philip Morris

GOOD FOR THE SUPREME COURT

It says on the cigarette package that smoking will make you sick and cause cancer.

Suing cigarette companies for making people sick would be like suing Playboy for giving people carpal tunnel syndrome.

Neither makes any sense.

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by scott4261 February 20, 2007 3:33 PM PST
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Opinions on these pages go across the spectrum, with some not easily categorized as left or right. Even though some of us have some heated exchanges here, it is clear that most of us love our country.

With that in mind, here are our rights. Learn them while we still have them:

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These are the first ten amendments to the U.S. Constitution. Passed by Congress on September 25, 1789, ratified by 3/4ths of the states on December 15th, 1791:

1. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

2. A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

3. No soldier shall, in time of peace, be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in the time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
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by ozziepooh90 February 20, 2007 3:33 PM PST
bildooreilly
where i live you cannot smoke in a restauarnt of bars at all. Some of the bars here have taken the city to court to be allowed to become a smoking bar.
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by scott4261 February 20, 2007 3:33 PM PST
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4. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

5. No person shall be held to answer for capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.
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by scott4261 February 20, 2007 3:34 PM PST
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6. In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trail, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of counsel for his defence.

7. In suits of common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of a trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of common law.

8. Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

9. The enumeration of the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

10. The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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by c885177 February 20, 2007 3:38 PM PST
exactly scott 461,
nowhere in that "bill of rights" are corporations even mentioned. let alone given rights over the people, or their courts.
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by mdc76082 February 20, 2007 3:50 PM PST
I can name at least 3 common, everyday household cleaning agents that have a lesser amount of hazardous agents in them, but if inhaled or combined can have mild to severe consequences alot quicker than second hand smoke. They all have warnings labels. In pure form they are deadly. Not talking ingesting. I'm talking about inhalation. But we breath these fumes daily or weekly when cleaning our households. I haven't any bit_chin about our cleaning products. Checked them against the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheets).

I give up. I blame it all on Global Warming, SARS and Bird Flu. Now, do I get an honorary doctorate?????
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by goldesprit February 20, 2007 3:54 PM PST
Somebody needs to have a real good look at this judges Swiss Bank Account.

Apparently the jury wanted to give a lot of money to a person who lost a loved one, and the "Judge" decided at the last minute that it was more money than he personally ...liked.

So then, he (or "they") decided that the jury was in error--that IN HIS OPINION the amount was unwarranted, unless the jury was trying (in his opinion) to punish the tobacco company for its over-all business practices, which was not supposed to be the nature of the trial.

Some say "It says on the cigarette package that smoking will make you sick and cause cancer."

Does it say on the package that you WILL be assisting in the early deaths of those surrounding you if they can even smell the smoke?
Hoew can a so called "Judge" opin that this sort of thing is really a "business" at all!!!!

This is not 1955---folks. YES--somebody needs to have a real good look at this judges Swiss Bank Account.
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by frankbowers February 20, 2007 3:57 PM PST
Well all can see now the the Supreme Court like the Republican Party/RNC has sold out to the tobacco companies. I think it is time to raise a flag of Germany pst the one that hitler one used comes to mind. This country is going down hill in which the Christian Majority have had a big hand. The best of good byes, Frank Bowers
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by crazyivan32 February 20, 2007 4:11 PM PST
ckcool192000 has it right. Let's sue MacDonald's. I gaurantee they've killed more Americans in the last 20 years than cigarettes have. And what's with all this drivel about nicotine and addiction? Gutless whining babies...I smoked Camel filterless for 25 years. I LOVED to smoke. I loved everything about it. I knew it was bad for me. Blah blah blah...And then I quit. It sucked, but I made it, with willpower and an occasional gutcheck. People who talk about "helplessness" in the face of addiction need to grow a pair and take responsibility for their lives and THEIR OWN CHOICES. Choices! Who says we don't live in a democracy anymore? Choices abound. Quit whining. Why shoud tobacco companies have to subsidize personal weakness?
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by scott4261 February 20, 2007 4:32 PM PST
George W. Bush is making sure that he is stacking the courts with conservatives. And when the Democrats take the White House in 2008, the Judicial branch of government will still be in conservative hands and it will be for many years. This is just the beginning of a new "judicial activism" from the right. Think I'm joking? You watch...W has put his stamp on the courts for years to come!
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by musty2u February 20, 2007 4:33 PM PST
Isn't it lovely?
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