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The New Republic/ September 22, 2009, 11:09 AM

Foreign Policy Foreign To Giuliani

This column was written by Jonathan Chait.
The normal rule in American politics is that if you run for president and your experience comes at the state level, most people will assume that foreign policy is your weak point. You can overcome that political vulnerability — as George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and other governors did while getting elected. One would presume that this applies even more to presidential candidates whose highest office reached is mayor. And yet we have the strange case of Rudolph Giuliani.

Giuliani's presidential campaign is starting to win a cult following among conservatives. It's not his position on domestic policy that's doing it — he has nothing to say about that. Lord knows it's not his social issue positions, which even his strongest backers acknowledge are his political weak point. No, he has somehow built a record as a foreign policy guru despite having no experience beyond the municipal level.

What are Giuliani's credentials? Everybody knows the basics. On September 11, 2001, he rolled up his shirt sleeves and gave reassuring speeches. He has a tough guy persona. He expresses extremely strong disapproval for enemies of the United States. (For instance, Giuliani has bragged about asking President Bush to let him personally execute Osama bin Laden.)

All this makes Republicans swoon. Sometimes literally. Conservative pundit Danielle Crittenden recently penned a Valentine's Day poem to Giuliani. One section summarized his foreign policy skills thusly:
A man who's locked out Arafat
And thrown vagrants into prison
Won't cringe before a Democrat
Or allow Iran nuclear fission.

I'm no poetry critic, but I do know that a tough policy against the homeless is not a good proxy for the conduct of foreign policy.

If having a macho swagger and talking tough about bad guys were enough to make a good commander in chief, we wouldn't have the worst foreign policy disaster in U.S. history on our hands right now in Iraq. And, need I remind anybody, one of the reasons Giuliani hasn't been able to fulfill his Bin Laden execution fantasy is that Bush allowed the Al Qaeda leader to escape at Tora Bora by using Afghan proxies instead of U.S. ground troops.

As I noted in this space last week, conservative foreign policy consists increasingly of abstract notions divorced from reality. In preparing for last week's House debate over the Iraq troop surge, the Republican leadership instructed its members in a memo: "The debate should not be about the surge or its details. This debate should not even be about the Iraq war to date, mistakes that have been made or whether we can, or cannot, win militarily. If we let Democrats force us into a debate on the surge or the current situation in Iraq, we lose."

So they're strong on foreign policy, except insofar as it involves actual policy. They tend to be much better, however, at comparing themselves to figures such as Winston Churchill or Abraham Lincoln. They make such comparisons incessantly. Last week, Giuliani said that Lincoln had "that ability that a leader has — a leader like George Bush, a leader like Ronald Reagan — to look into the future."

A few days later, The New York Times revealed that the 2002 postwar plan for Iraq envisioned a broadly representative Iraqi government, an intact Iraqi Army, and just a handful of U.S. troops remaining. I would say this is not a good job of looking into the future.

I'm sure Giuliani and his fans would dismiss such slip-ups, and there have been many, as mere detail. The important thing to them is leadership — Bush has it; Giuliani has it.

Giuliani raked in millions after 9/11, appearing at motivational seminars, where anybody with $49 could listen to him recount his 9/11 heroics and also take in speeches by such foreign policy titans as Zig Ziglar and Goldie Hawn. Giuliani also wrote a book promising to show "how the leadership skills he practices can be employed successfully by anyone who has to run anything."

But if anybody who buys his book can acquire the same leadership skills, why do we need Giuliani?

By Jonathan Chait
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grumpas says:
Guiliani has about as much chance of being the Republican front runner as a snow ball in hell does! As long as the religious nuts rule the party he will never be their candidate! I don't see any signs that the situation is going to change any time soon! They are a large part of the Republican voting base now! They rely on the religion card to get them elected! All the sane normal people have left years ago for the other party!
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scott4261 says:
Many have the mistaken notion that the South is populated with a majority of rednecks who hate g a y s and abortion. That they all have guns in their trucks and that they all vote Republican. And they are all supporting the war in Iraq. The huge mistake we Democrats in the South have made all these years is to allow conservatives to take over our party with this flag-waving divisive nonsense.

I live in Arkansas, a state that is actually more "purple" than "blue" or "red." Just look at our congressional delegation. My point is that those on the right and on FOX news (and even CNN and MSNBC sometimes) try to make this about US and THEM. What they fail to realize is that there IS ONLY US! ONE COUNTRY!
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scott4261 says:
Oh, and yeah, I DO have a mean and nasty attitude about George W. Bush. He's a dumb a s s!
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scott4261 says:
janem4, you seem to have a mean and nasty attitude about the Clintons. JUST SO YOU KNOW, SOME OF US ON THE LEFT WANT TO BREAK THE BUSH-CLINTON CYCLE TOO! Don't assume that just because one is a liberal or progressive that one is a Clintinite, because that assumption is SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

Oh, and one more thing: BILL CLINTON IS NO LONGER PRESIDENT!
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qtjojo says:
Giuliani has a weapon against Hillary that will prove very, very powerful, and resonate with a lot of voters, that McCain doesn't have. His name is Marc Rich. Do the research.
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qtjojo says:
Do you know who Marc Rich is, what Rudy Giuliani had to do with him in 1983, what Bill Clinton had to do with him in 2000, and why Rudy will tie this around Hill's neck like an anchor in 2008 (in a way that McCain can't)?
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qtjojo says:
Do you know what Rudy Giuliani had to do with Marc Rich in 1983, what Bill Clinotn had to do with him in 2000, and why this is going to be an anchor that Giuliani ties around Hillary's neck in 2008? McCain will not be able to use this Hillary killer.
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bigwhtpony says:
Just look at who has currently been in office for two terms.
Posted by Zoroastor at 11:08 AM : Feb 21, 2007

He's just following the Bill Clinton playbook. If it was ok for Slick Wilhelm, why is it not ok for Dubya? Not that I like either one of them.....I just marvel at the double standard.
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bigwhtpony says:
"A man who's locked out Arafat
And thrown vagrants into prison
Won't cringe before a Democrat
Or allow Iran nuclear fission."

I KNEW there was something I liked about this guy!!!!

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zoroastor says:
It doesn't matter if Rudi know squat about foriegn policy. In fact, you don't even have to know much at all... how to tie your shoes, how to tell the truth, how to lie to the public with a straight face.
Just look at who has currently been in office for two terms.
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