Biden: We'll Change 2002 War Authorization

Biden Proposes To Repeal The Vote To Authorize The President To Go Into Iraq

(CBS)  With Democratic efforts to pass a Senate resolution opposing President Bush's troop "surge" stalled, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman said he will try to rework the 2002 measure that authorized the use of force against Saddam Hussein. But, the committee's ranking Republican doubted that the idea would pass the Senate and, if it did, was sure that the president would veto it.

While the majority party in the House of Representatives passed a nonbinding resolution rebuking the president's Iraq strategy, Senate Democrats fell four votes short of pushing a similar measure forward in a rare Saturday session.

Appearing on Face the Nation the next day, Sen. Joe Biden, D-Delaware, proposed his alternate route to stopping Mr. Bush from sending 21,500 more troops to Iraq.

"I've been working with some of my colleagues to try to convince them that's the way to go – to repeal and restate the president's authority," Biden told Bob Schieffer. "Make it clear that the purpose that he has troops in there is to in fact protect against al Qaeda gaining chunks of territory, training the Iraqi forces, force protection and for our forces. It's not to get in the midst of a civil war."

Also appearing on Face the Nation,Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., the ranking Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee, said that Biden's proposal would never get enough support in the Senate. Even if the majority could pass it, he said, the president would veto it and the veto could not be overturned.

Biden, who is in the race for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination, said he was confident that his proposal would pass where the others had failed.

"I predict to you you're going to see pressure mount," Biden said, "and it's going to be significant."

Lugar agreed that public pressure was influencing the Congress' votes on the war, but he said none of the current proposals would make it through both houses and to the president. He said the nonbinding resolutions are being proposed to make the President consider to the opposition.

"I think the president is paying attention," Lugar said, suggesting that the next move would be a true bi-partisan search for solutions.

"I think there've been some fledgling efforts to see whether a group might be formed in a bipartisan way – couple of them haven't worked out," Lugar said. "But for example, perhaps the president's situation is improved if he calls on Senator Biden and Senator Levin, Senator McCain, Speaker Pelosi, for example, and says, you know, 'We are in a war. We're in a situation of rather fractured political circumstances right now, and we need to think through this situation.'"

One of the most outspoken critics of the war, Rep. John Murtha, D-Penn., offered a different approach for Congress to control the president's war plans. He described a series of provisions that would require the Pentagon to meet certain standards for training and equipping the troops, and for making sure they have enough time at home between deployments.

"I wouldn't favor it," Lugar said. "But I would just say again that it would not be passed by two Houses and signed by the president. And, once again, it's a debating tool, which makes the point."

Biden said that Murtha is trying to save the Army, not just stop the president's plan to send more troops to Iraq.

"You cannot keep extending these people," Biden said. "You cannot keep doing what you're doing here. You cannot be sending them back without the proper equipment."

Meanwhile, the Bush administration has said that Iran is shipping sophisticated weapons to Iraq to help Shiite militias. The increasingly hostile tone the White House is using against Iran has led to some worries that the U.S. might end up in another war.

"I don't think it's going anywhere, and my hope is that it would not," Lugar said. "I would hope very strongly that the diplomatic course is followed – that Europeans help some more – but clearly, we have got to go the diplomatic route."

Biden said the president is trying to regain credibility in the yes of the public.

"It's repackaged," Biden said. "Two years ago, I was briefed on this, a year ago I was briefed by General Chiarelli on these shape charges and how they're different."

[bobnjersey]

[processor2]
[Maybe the Dummycrats will pass a non-binding resolution urging Bush to get out of Pennsylvania.]

if they had the balls they'd impeach that lying b@st@rd, and as soon as they'r done w/ him they should just move on to grandfather of the lesbian love child and kick his @$$ to the curb too.

of course, a republican congress just does whatever the liars want ... i suppose that's better for a pea brain like yourself?

[bobnjersey]

[processor2]
[This resolution is a disaster of historical proportions.]

where is it (relative) on the spectrum of the foreign policy disaster that is iraq? this boondogle will go down as the biggest foreign policy disaster in american history.

no doubt you'll deny it and blame it all on democrats and liberals. i can hear it now .... "we could have won this thing if the liberals didn't surrender"

[bobnjersey]

[lars008]
[only congress loses wars.....]
[the usa military has never lost a war.... ]

all missions accomplished ... huh!

have they won the war on drugs? what about the war on illiteracy? and they're going to win the war on terrorism too, right?

congress doesn't fight wars so ... according to your twisted perspective ... they've never lost one either.

[firststate]

Processor, Your statement, "Sometimes I wonder if liberalism isn't a mental disorder" was probably a Freudian slip because you are accidentally correct in your wondering. You wondered if liberalism ISN'T a mental disorder and it ISN'T. However your delusional state IS indicative of a mental disorder. Your experience with your own mental disorders doesn't qualify you to diagnose them in others. Facing reality is a part of good mental health.

Generally, I share a half full glass, optimistic view of the world, but with the bushies, both the glass and water some times exist only in their delusional world and not at all in the real world. How many times has the insurgency been in its death throes or other sound bytes to that effect?

[baddog777]

Actually, I would rather see them pass a resolution urging him to get out of Washington.

[baddog777]

processor2,

I thought there was something familiar about the cut and paste. How ya been, bushrocks?

[baddog777]

2 GI's killed in Iraq today.
Golly, there were more people killed in Philadelphia due to gang violence.
Maybe the Dummycrats will pass a non-binding resolution urging Bush to get out of Pennsylvania.
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Posted by processor2
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Of course, there are 5.8 million people in the Philadelphia metro area. How do those casualties work out on a per capita basis?

[processor2]

2 GI's killed in Iraq today.

Golly, there were more people killed in Philadelphia due to gang violence.

Maybe the Dummycrats will pass a non-binding resolution urging Bush to get out of Pennsylvania.

...

[processor2]

So, the socialist/marxist/leninists (aka Democrats)that have seized control of congress last November wants to vote on the surrender of our country.

This resolution is a disaster of historical proportions.

The Democrap Party today will show the world what wimps and whiners that Democrats really are.

Heaven help us.

....

SOMETIMES I WONDER IF LIBERALISM ISN'T A MENTAL DISORDER.....most people I know are a glass is half-full kind of people, whereas liberals see nothing but doom, gloom, and surrender.


UNLIKE YOU LIBERALS,,,,,,I do not advocate putting our tails between our legs and running like the cowardly Dummycrats are proposing

[bm6005]

2 GI's killed in Iraq today.
Golly, there were more people killed in Philadelphia due to gang violence.
Maybe the Dummycrats will pass a non-binding resolution urging Bush to get out of Pennsylvania.
...
Posted by processor2

Once again, a totally lame argument just like the drunk driver analogy. These deaths of our soldiers are unnecessary and preventable. Bring them the f*k home!!

[ademeyer]

processor2, let me explain something to you, we do not have an infinite number of service people willing to leave their homes and families to risk
their lives protecting the interests of the United States of America. Every time we lose one of these highly valuable individuals, the United States becomes more vulnerable. This is why many of us take the time to evaluate the risks vs the rewards of occupying Iraq, and come up with the answer that our soldiers are better employed securing Afghanistan, a known terrorist base, rather than Iraq, which is in a civil war between Sunnis and Shiites. If you want to get all macho I suggest you pick a sports team to follow, because playing Rambo with real live troops is not only a waste of lives, but a stupid strategy for defeating terrorists.

[grumpas]

processor2: "SOMETIMES I WONDER IF LIBERALISM ISN'T A MENTAL DISORDER....." Liberalism isn't processor 2 but conservatism is!!!! I see them foaming a the mouth like a mad dog all the time! Only an out of control insane person acts the way they do! Anytime they hear the word liberal they go off on a tangent that a mental patient would envy! It turns good people into bitter, destructive and immoral people! I see what it has done to some good people whom I love! It isn't pretty! I will take a liberal any day of the week over a hard core conservative!

[bm6005]

LARS & LIEBERMAN are paid employees of AIPAC who, like their colleagues at CampusWatch, are the unwitting tenticles of american facist organizations trying to impose on true Americans their twisted philosophies.

Got a misspell here, "testicles" not "tenticles".

[processor2]

So, the socialist/marxist/leninists (aka Democrats)that have seized control of congress last November wants to vote on the surrender of our country.

This resolution is a disaster of historical proportions.

The Democrap Party today will show the world what wimps and whiners that Democrats really are.

Heaven help us.

....

SOMETIMES I WONDER IF LIBERALISM ISN'T A MENTAL DISORDER.....most people I know are a glass is half-full kind of people, whereas liberals see nothing but doom, gloom, and surrender.


UNLIKE YOU LIBERALS,,,,,,I do not advocate putting our tails between our legs and running like the cowardly Dummycrats are proposing

[processor2]

2 GI's killed in Iraq today.

Golly, there were more people killed in Philadelphia due to gang violence.

Maybe the Dummycrats will pass a non-binding resolution urging Bush to get out of Pennsylvania.

...

[skyk-2009]

Goat." Even liebernuts finally caught on about the terms "liberal" and "fascist" being opposites. Trust me, you don't want to be considered dumber than he/she/it.
Posted by firststate at 02:40 AM : Feb 20, 2007

LOL I've thought about copying Lars post and sending them to your local chapter of the Skin Heads... let them see his connections and maybe they have a way of educating the LOSER that he can understand. I do believe the LAST idiot who made that connection around them is now at the bottom of some lake. LMAO

[skyk-2009]

BIDEN - what a petrified piece of swivel-spined, lame-a$$ed politician. Ooooh, he's gonna do something - wow.
Posted by MITYWHITY at 07:31 PM : Feb 19, 2007

LMAO This from a Nazi who HONESTLY believed Sir Lies-A-Lot landed that Plane on that Aircraft Carrier! ROFLMAO

[skyk-2009]

SOMETIMES I WONDER IF LIBERALISM ISN'T A MENTAL DISORDER.....most people I know are a glass is half-full kind of people, whereas liberals see nothing but doom, gloom, and surrender.


UNLIKE YOU LIBERALS,,,,,,I do not advocate putting our tails between our legs and running like the cowardly Dummycrats are proposing.

Posted by processor2 at 07:39 PM : Feb 19, 2007
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For those of you who do NOT understand Red Neck, he's saying they aren't intelligent enough to figure out any way to accomplish anything other than blow people up. That's pretty obvious when you get around a group of them at a Red Neck Bar. They've refought EVERY war and abused EVERY solution to EVERY problem this nation has ever had. ACTUALLY DONE ANYTHING? Well no they haven't but they sure talk a good game. Oh one more FACT. They are ALL everyone of them slimy Cowards who couldn't carry the boots of our greatest leaders who happen to ALL be "Liberal's". ROFLMAO Their idea of being an American is putting a Confederate Flag in your window and dipping snuff!

[skyk-2009]

Don't tell them!! THEY think they are doing their jobs and like any good ho they sell their services to the highest bidder.

[skyk-2009]

only congress loses wars.....

the usa military has never lost a war....
Posted by lars008 at 01:34 AM : Feb 20, 2007

You sound just like a boot Louie that came into our unit in Nam. He wasn't with us long.... The MILITARY you pathetic fascist is governed by Civilian's. Their mission is GIVEN by civilians. When they have an incompetent LOSER like Sir Lies-A-Lot laying out that mission, then YES they can and DO lose. Now go back to your kool aid and your John Wayne Movies! ROFLMAO