U.S. May Shun A Fatah-Hamas Coalition

Position Could Hurt Abbas' Efforts To End Palestinian Violence And International Sanctions

(CBS/AP) 
"I am not certain that the full scope of this agreement is clear to anyone, the initial signs are not very encouraging," he said.

Olmert also agreed Thursday to allow a Turkish team to inspect the Jerusalem holy site, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said after meeting Olmert in Ankara.

"The works do not go anywhere near any holy site, and everybody can see that from the cameras," Israel Antiquities Authority spokeswoman Osnat Goaz said.

Israel also took action to stop expected protests following Friday prayers, banning Muslim men under the age of 50 from attending the service and sending 3,000 police officers to patrol Arab east Jerusalem, Israeli police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said.

Archaeologist Shimon Gibson of the University of North Carolina said the Muslim fears are rooted in the warren of nearly 50 tunnels, chambers and cisterns that run underneath the holy compound, some of them not far from the Mughrabi Gate. If Israel could access those subterranean spaces through the digs, some Muslims fear, they could destabilize the Islamic buildings.

Two incidents have fueled those fears. In 1969, an Australian Christian set fire to the Al Aqsa mosque hoping to speed the coming of the Messiah. In 1984, Israeli authorities arrested a group of Jewish extremists who had planned to dynamite the Dome of the Rock to expedite the rebuilding of the temple.

But history shows Israel does not want to harm the Islamic holy sites, said Gershom Gorenberg, an Israeli historian and journalist.

For one thing, the site has little importance for the secular Jews who make up a majority of Israel's population, while most Orthodox Jews believe it is forbidden to go there before a temple is rebuilt in the times of the Messiah, he said. They pray instead at the neighboring Western Wall, as Jews have for centuries.

Since the 1967 war, when Israel captured the compound from Jordan, Israel has left its administration to the Islamic Waqf and barred Jews from praying there to avoid angering Muslims. The division of responsibility left the ramp and the Mughrabi Gate under Israeli control.

With the exception of a few militantly nationalist Orthodox groups, there are rarely calls for any change in that status quo, Gorenberg said.

Yossi Klein Halevi, a senior research fellow at the Shalem Center in Jerusalem, said most Israelis were not attached to the compound itself.

In June 1967, when Israeli troops fought their way into the Old City, they found themselves on the compound, he said. They found an old Arab gatekeeper with a large key around his neck, and the man opened the Mughrabi Gate, let them out, and showed them the way down to the Western Wall, which was what they were really interested in, he said.

"For the paratroopers, the Mughrabi Gate wasn't a way on to the Temple Mount — it was a way off," Klein Halevi said.

For Muslims, fears that Israel wants to harm the mosques "fly in the face of their experience of the last 40 years," during which Israel has done nothing to compromise the Muslim holy sites, Gorenberg said.

"But Israel's inability to take those fears into account," he said, "also flies in the face of the experience of the last 40 years."

[feelfree1]

rhs648,

Re: "Perhaps safety, security, and prosperity for the Palestinians will be possible after their current leaders are out of the picture."

I think that this result is a far more likely, when the Israelis expell the extremists and war criminals from their own disgraced government, and they rejoin the human race and world community.

[rhs648]

Perhaps a brighter and more enlightened generation of Palestinians will realize that peace and prosperity is better than guns and war. Perhaps safety, security, and prosperity for the Palestinians will be possible after their current leaders are out of the picture.

[feelfree1]

rhs648,

Re: "It is silly to glorify a society that can only go to war with Israel and each other instead of enjoing peace and prosperity."

The cruel and criminal Israeli occupation and settlement of Palestine has destroyed many opportunities for the Palestinians, and many of them have been understandably pushed to the point of desperation as a result.

The Israelis have a long record of bombing civilians themselves. They dropped some 4,000,000
cluster-bombs in Lebanon during their recent rampage, for example, illegally and despicably,.

I don't consider bombing civilians from an airplane to be more honorable than in person.

I meant to write that Israel was a rogue-terror-State, though, not a 'rouge' terror-State.

[rhs648]

"Israel is a runaway rouge state that shows no respect for the rule of law or for common decency."

What propaganda! Look at a map of the middle east. Israel is a mere sliver of land. Let us not ignore the suicide bombings, missile attacks, and kidnappings by the peace loving Palestinians against Israel. If this isn't enough, look at how the Palestinians kill each other. It is silly to glorify a society that can only go to war with Israel and each other instead of enjoing peace and prosperity.

[feelfree1]

rhs648,

Re: "Palestine, too, could have put its resources and energies into building a prosperous nation. Instead, they keep bringing destruction upon themselves."

That is a pretty absurd comment. Israel is a runaway rouge state that shows no respect for the rule of law or for common decency.

The Israelis continue to illegally occupy and settle land for which they have no legitimate claim. The Israelis frequently engage in the summary execute of people, usually civilians.

They imprison people with no due process, including children, they regularly threaten and attack their neighbors, and they have nukes.

The least that the U.S. can do is to stop the billions and billions of U.S. tax-dollar welfare payments that we send to the terror-State of Israel, year after year. Most Americans seem to agree on this point.

Your comment was akin to blaming a rape victim for being too promiscuous.

[rhs648]

One has to feel sympathetic towards the Palestinians. While Israel has built a prosperous nation, the Palestinians have spent decades at war with Israel and between each other. Palestine, too, could have put its resources and energies into building a prosperous nation. Instead, they keep bringing destruction upon themselves. Perhaps a future generation of Palestinians will see the value of peace and prosperity.

[condumism]

This group continues to be the world's number one threat to ALL humankind:

http://www.gop.com/

[condumism]

Headlines should read: NEOCONS in the WHITE HOUSE (ISRAEL'S PUPPETS) SHUN FATAH-HAMAS COALITION.

[lars008-2009]

is islam a violation of international law???
islam practices slavery on non muslims
islam practices apartheid on non muslims
islam practices rape on non muslims
islam practices rape on babies and animals
islam practices genocide on non muslims
all are violations of international law and are crimes against humanity
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=slavery+islam&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=slavery muslim&btnG=Google Search
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4795808.stm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=apartheid islam
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=apartheid muslim
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rape islam
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rape muslim&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rape islam babies&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rape muslim babies&btnG=Search
Imam Khomeini - Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution
http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352826&TOCID=2083225445
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=genocide islam&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=genocide muslim

[lars008-2009]

here's your enemy skippy..... try to remember that..... there will be a test later....
UK TV AIRS SHOCK 'UNDERCOVER' LOOK INTO MAINSTREAM BRIT MOSQUES...
Dispatches: Undercover Mosque
This is part one of the much-anticipated UK Channel 4 documentary Dispatches: Undercover Mosque, exposing evidence of Islamic supremacism, shocking misogyny, and support for violence at a number of Britain%u2019s leading mosques and Muslim institutions. (Thanks again to LGF operative kasper.)
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24018_Dispatches-_Undercover_Mosque&only

Dispatches - Undercover Mosque (1 to 6)
UK Channel 4, aired 15th January 2007.
Radicalisation of UK mosques by Saudi Wahabbism
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Dispatches+- Undercover Mosque
http://youtube.com/watch?v=peFQWuk4nuo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MuCLC8kjWCI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=x5t5EqWX92k
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yMztM0Z7BYE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=V4Zv3BUmwqs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KvjvNScmTQA

[lars008-2009]

'Obsession'
Documentary gives insight into radical Islam%u2019s global threat
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/launchPage.html?110506/110506_fnl_obsession&%27Obsession%27&FNL&Documentary%20gives%20insight%20into%20radical%20Islam%92s%20global%20threat&Foxlife&-1&%27Obsession%27&Video%20Launch%20Page&News
http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/12min.htm
http://myspace.com/waragainstthewest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BL4-mxE87w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUpcpEQtgp4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BUqXSeCDJc

[lars008-2009]

this is the real threat to humanity.....
http://stopislam.cjb.net/

Terrorism Awareness Project to wake up Americans and the World
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/islamic-mein-kampf

[lars008-2009]

USA's PLEDGE 2 THE WORLD GIVEN BY JFK!!
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
--John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961 "

"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." --John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961 "

One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Winston Churchill

Edmund Burke: All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.

[lars008-2009]

Franklin D. Roosevelt's Infamy Speech
December 8, 1941/September 12, 2001
The facts of yesterday speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation.

As Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy, I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense.

Always will we remember the character of the onslaught against us. No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.

I believe I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will make very certain that this form of treachery shall never endanger us again.

Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory and our interests are in grave danger.

With confidence in our armed forces - with the unbounded determination of our people - we will gain the inevitable triumph - so help us God.

[lars008-2009]

ISLAM EMPTIES BETHLEHEM OF CHRISTIANS
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printab
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36406

'Greedy monsters' ruled church

SPECIAL TO THE WASHINGTON TIMES
BETHLEHEM, West Bank %u2014 The Palestinian gunmen holed up in the Church of the Nativity and later deported by Israel seized church stockpiles of food and "ate like greedy monsters" until the food ran out, while more than 150 civilians went hungry.
They also guzzled beer, wine and Johnnie Walker scotch that they found in priests' quarters, undeterred by the Islamic ban on drinking alcohol.
Angry Orthodox priests yesterday showed two reporters about 20 empty bottles of whiskey, champagne, vodka, cognac and French wine on a kitchen shelf and on the floor of two rooms.
"They should be ashamed of themselves. They acted like animals, like greedy monsters. Come, I will show you more," said one priest, who declined to give his name.
"Palestinians took candelabra, icons and anything that looked like gold," said a Franciscan, the Rev. Nicholas Marquez from Mexico.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20020515-89391238.htm

[g98ed]

"But history shows Israel does not want to harm the Islamic holy sites, said Gershom Gorenberg, an Israeli historian and journalist."

Yes that may be true; Israel would rather exterminate the Arabs and keep everything. The problem lies in the fact that Bush & Israel are handing me the bill. I DO NOT INTEND TO PAY!

[bm6005]

Excuse me, ZIONIST elementary school!!

[bm6005]

hamiltongrad

After reading some of your posts I have to assume hamilton is an elementary school!! You, son have a lot to learn!

[tuckerndfw]

Hey, Sarge,

Zionist has many different interpretations, but I use the formal version. When I use Zionist I am referring to any person who believes, for whatever reason, that "Jews" (anyone claiming to be a Jew) is born with the right to claim ownership and/or possession of land in the Middle East, in or around Jerusalem.

The vast majority of Zionists are "right wing Christian fundamentalists" including Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Billy Graham, and nearly any other Christian "evangelist" whose name is commonly known.

The majority of people in the Bush administration & congress are Zionists.

One of the most vocal and active Christian Zionists is John Hagee. He uses his entire tax free air time to explain why US taxpayers should shovel money to Israel, and, why US soldiers should die for Israelis.

He is a greater menace than OBL in that he promotes Israel's political message and little else.

Hagee routinely organizes lobbying groups, using his tax free facilities, to lobby congress on Israel's behalf.

Hagee and all other Zionists like him should renounce their US citizenship and move to Israel.

Zionists are a far greater menace than al qaida because they pretend to be loyal, patriotic Americans while doing everything they can to destroy the US. On Israel's behalf, of course.

[formrusmcsgt]

Zionists are a far greater menace to US citizens and taxpayers thana any other political or social group.
Posted by tuckerndfw at 02:41 PM : Feb 15, 2007

I don't know about that, tucker. Christian zealots are right up there, too......