Bosnian Relatives Shocked By Mall Shooting

Also, A Wedding Cameraman Caught Video From The Scene As The Shooting Was Going On

(CBS/AP) 
Up to 200,000 people were killed and 1.8 million others lost their homes during Bosnia's 1992-95 war.

Few villagers return to Talovici after the war ended, and most of the homes remain in ruins. Among them is the house where Sulejman Talovic spent his early years. His father, Suljo, built it a year before the war began, relatives said.

"Those were really nice people, never argued with anybody about anything. During the war, they shared the little food they had with others," said Sefko Talovic, 59, a distant relative.

"His father helped other injured people flee when the village fell although he himself was injured too," he said. "What happened was a big tragedy, first here and now in America."

So far, there is nothing that shows Talovic's Bosnian ancestry and Muslim religion had any bearing on the murders

"We have no indication that this is an act of terrorism or an act against the U.S. government," FBI supervisory special agent Patrick Kiernan told the Deseret Morning News.

"People recognize that in some respects that this could happen anywhere," Malachy Kavanagh, a spokesman for the International Council of Shopping Centers, a trade group, said. "They'll be mindful and mournful. ... But people do get back to the normalcy of their lives. They return to things that are familiar."

Cabin Fever, a card shop at the center of the shooting, did not reopen. A worker repaired a pillar outside the store that was damaged by shotgun pellets, while owners and employees replaced products on shelves.

There were free Valentine's Day cards outside the shop with a sign that read: "Don't forget to tell someone you love them today. ... Please choose a Valentine with our compliments."

Three people were killed in the store, and Talovic was cornered and killed by police near Cabin Fever.

"We really needed a little bit more time for ourselves and to show our condolences," co-owner David Dean said of the decision to stay closed until Feb. 21.

Talovic's relatives say the family called from time to time saying they had settled in Salt Lake City, secured jobs and were happy. They were making plans to return to Bosnia for the first time, relatives said.

"When I heard his name on TV, I fainted. I still can't believe what he did," said a cousin, Mina Talovic, 54. "I remember him as a happy little boy sitting in my lap."

"I'm so sorry for those poor people," she said. "I feel sorry for him and his family."

The relatives in Talovici said they had not been in contact with the Talovic family in U.S. since the shooting. No one answered the door at their Salt Lake City home Wednesday.

"We are all dismayed. We have a hard time connecting that horrible act with the little smiling boy we remember," Redzo Talovic said.

[standlee5]

"They were making plans to return to Bosnia for the first time, relatives said."

Too bad they didn't go sooner and leave their son there.

[dkolo-2009]

I am Danica Borkovich Anderson, a forensic psychotherapist working with Bosnian war crimes survivors and war survivors in Ahmici & Novi Travnik. In 2000- 2003 I and the women I trained in trauma went to Tusla to meet with the women (widows) and children survivors working at making kilms- Beba for Bosfam. Beba said to me when she has asked for help "make no promises." We have thrown away anyone after the situation is no longer a media event. One of the trauma training centers on how children absorb the trauma and fear intergenerationally-- and how hate has been moving through the last 100 years on South Slavs. www.kolocollaboration.org

[vancouverboo]

Cultural diversity and Globalization at work.

[gunownerdan]

Concealed carry saves lives.
Killers prefer unarmed victims!
a-human-right.com
packing.org

[glc518]

come on media this guy was a muslin admit it. quit trying to cover this up. it was an act of a terrorist. now we want to bring 8000 iraq refuges into the country this has got to stop how many brainwashed kids will be among them.

[notblue]

He attended Friday prayer sessions at the mosque. HELLO!!!!!!

[cbgb31]

We don't need anymore third world refugees. Send them to India or China where the next economic boom will be. We've got enough to deal with. For the ones already here; learn to be American.

[cbgb31]

How about we start holding emigrants responsible for their kids' anti-American activities. If your kids don't want to be American we'll deport the whole dam family back to wherever they came from. Don't bring your families of 10, 15, 20 or more here and suck off the US taxpayers then have your kids run amok with no respect. Get the frigging hell back to where you came from.

[down-ndirty]

"Certainly not all muslims are terrorists but to date, the terrorists have been muslims." Posted by janem4

No they havent. Are you forgetting Oklahoma City, and, also the una-bomber? And Columbine? And others?

Flat statements like that are dangerous to your credibility. You're just another wacko who jumps out of his/her skin if a 'Muslim sneezes' but turns the 'other cheek' if a non-Muslim goes nuts and kills.

Don't forget all the abortion clinic bombings conducted by "fundamentalist" Christians.

[jimbo505]

another one to the list

[down-ndirty]

"How about we start holding emigrants responsible for their kids' anti-American activities." Posted by cbgb31

How about we hold all parents responsible when their kids commit crime? Your kid commits a crime, you do the time. Lose your home; lose your job.

Sure would make this country a lot safer.

[mjpereir]

Seems like people people don't think before they type their messages. It's the ignorant ideas and thoughts like some of these that keep this violence going.

[jmagarotz]

?

[rudy654-2009]

People, get off your stupid political and racist agendas. Mental illness is a serious problem and needs to be dealt with. This kind of thing is happening with more and more frequency, and the perps have been people from various backgrounds. But we'll find out in this case, as in the others, that serious mental health issues were being overlooked. Goodness. I'm seeing signs mental illness all throughout these posts.

[gunownerdan]

Terrorists and other dangerous criminals prefer unarmed victims.
Fight crime: SHOOT BACK!
a-human-right.com
packing.org

[bebimoj]

Mall shooting. First I would like to send my prayers to all the people that were affected by this horrible incident. Reading this made me sad and mad at the same time. I do not understand what this story has to do with the war in Bosnia? Why does that always have to be mentioned? How about all the serbians that were slaughtered? Why do we forget them? War is 2 ways and all sides are equel.
This has nothing to do with Serbians and Bosnians. This is a troubled child like so many others that go into schools and start shooting. Only God and the killer know why they did this!
Sonja Jovanovic-Calasan

[lars008-2009]

this is the real threat to humanity.....
http://stopislam.cjb.net/

Terrorism Awareness Project to wake up Americans and the World
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/islamic-mein-kampf

[agnim]

What's up with the red in this guys eyes?
Was he the devil? LOL

After sending Americans to slaughter Iraqis and turning countless into refugees, our lunatic leaders are taking in more and more Iraqis who were also affected by our wasteful war over there.

So, Americans, look out for more of maniac muslim terror being imported to the US malls by our ever self-destructive and lunatic leaders.

[lars008-2009]

'Obsession'
Documentary gives insight into radical Islam%u2019s global threat
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/launchPage.html?110506/110506_fnl_obsession&%27Obsession%27&FNL&Documentary%20gives%20insight%20into%20radical%20Islam%92s%20global%20threat&Foxlife&-1&%27Obsession%27&Video%20Launch%20Page&News
http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/12min.htm
http://myspace.com/waragainstthewest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BL4-mxE87w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUpcpEQtgp4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BUqXSeCDJc

[lars008-2009]

here's your enemy skippy..... try to remember that..... there will be a test later....
UK TV AIRS SHOCK 'UNDERCOVER' LOOK INTO MAINSTREAM BRIT MOSQUES...
Dispatches: Undercover Mosque
This is part one of the much-anticipated UK Channel 4 documentary Dispatches: Undercover Mosque, exposing evidence of Islamic supremacism, shocking misogyny, and support for violence at a number of Britain%u2019s leading mosques and Muslim institutions. (Thanks again to LGF operative kasper.)
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24018_Dispatches-_Undercover_Mosque&only

Dispatches - Undercover Mosque (1 to 6)
UK Channel 4, aired 15th January 2007.
Radicalisation of UK mosques by Saudi Wahabbism
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Dispatches+- Undercover Mosque
http://youtube.com/watch?v=peFQWuk4nuo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MuCLC8kjWCI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=x5t5EqWX92k
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yMztM0Z7BYE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=V4Zv3BUmwqs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KvjvNScmTQA

[lars008-2009]

is islam a violation of international law???
islam practices slavery on non muslims
islam practices apartheid on non muslims
islam practices rape on non muslims
islam practices rape on babies and animals
islam practices genocide on non muslims
all are violations of international law and are crimes against humanity
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=slavery+islam&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=slavery muslim&btnG=Google Search
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4795808.stm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=apartheid islam
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=apartheid muslim
Malaysia women 'suffer apartheid'
The daughter of Malaysia's former prime minister has launched a scathing attack on the roles and status of Muslim women in the country.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4784784.stm
A matter of tolerance
http://musingwithmarinamahathir.blogspot.com/2006/12/matter-of-tolerance.html
Marina Mahathir
http://musingwithmarinamahathir.blogspot.com/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rape islam
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rape muslim&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rape islam babies&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rape muslim babies&btnG=Search
Imam Khomeini - Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution
http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352826&TOCID=2083225445
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=genocide islam&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=genocide muslim

[lars008-2009]

Franklin D. Roosevelt's Infamy Speech
December 8, 1941/September 12, 2001
The facts of yesterday speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation.

As Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy, I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense.

Always will we remember the character of the onslaught against us. No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.

I believe I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will make very certain that this form of treachery shall never endanger us again.

Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory and our interests are in grave danger.

With confidence in our armed forces - with the unbounded determination of our people - we will gain the inevitable triumph - so help us God.

[lars008-2009]

USA's PLEDGE 2 THE WORLD GIVEN BY JFK!!
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
--John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961 "

"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." --John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961 "

[diputsdiputs]

Terrorist....Pure and Simple

[lars008-2009]

One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Winston Churchill

Edmund Burke: All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.

[diputsdiputs]

lars008.....I have tried to look at the address' that you supplied...They all say not avail.
Censorship?

[sshankin]

This is absolutely ridiculous and UNACCEPTABLE! And no, I'm not talking about the shooting in Salt Lake City. I'm talking about all of these racist and ignorant comments being left by these "Christians" who are trying to make themselves morally superior to Muslims! You people spewing hatred so easily forget all the acts of "terrorism" perpetrated by white Christians such as ALL the school shootings, OK City Bombing, the Una-Bomber, "Christian" Activists in regards to abortion bombings/shootings! When these incidents happen, it's merely a problem with society, yet, when a non-protestant religion is attached their TERRORISTS! You people make me sick!

-A concerned CHRISTIAN!

[sshankin]

This is absolutely ridiculous and UNACCEPTABLE! And no, I'm not talking about the shooting in Salt Lake City. I'm talking about all of these racist and ignorant comments being left by these "Christians" who are trying to make themselves morally superior to Muslims! You people spewing hatred so easily forget all the acts of "terrorism" perpetrated by white Christians such as ALL the school shootings, OK City Bombing, the Una-Bomber, "Christian" Activists in regards to abortion bombings/shootings! When these incidents happen, it's merely a problem with society, yet, when a non-protestant religion is attached their TERRORISTS! You people make me sick!

-A concerned CHRISTIAN!

[diputsdiputs]

SShankin.....If "it" walks like a duck.....
quack quack

[lars008-2009]

diputSdiputS

which address?

[diputsdiputs]

Hey I'm Back....The UndercoverMosque and the last 2 on the list....It could be me, I'll try again

[lars008-2009]

you can do a search on you tube for Dispatches Undercover Mosque

[susanhelit]

People other than muslims go on shooting rampages in malls - you've got to have a bit more than the kid's name and religion before deciding this is a muslim thing.

[susanhelit]

Heck, look at the links on the left here - two other similar shootings - neither by muslims!

[lars008-2009]

and yet............ fascist nazi islamic muslims are killing civilians all around the world.....

[agnim]

"People other than muslims go on shooting rampages in malls -

Posted by SusanHelit at 02:48 PM : Feb 15, 2007"

Oh?

We only know of THIS mall RIGHT NOW and the barbaric acts of yet another unfortunate maniac muslim mind!

Save your hypothetical situations and diversionary tactics for later, little one.
Intelligent minds aren't that easily distracted by such weak minded tactics!

[gunownerdan]

Armed civilians are much harder to kill.
Terrorists and other killers prefer unarmed victims- it makes their job easier!
Fight Crime: SHOOT BACK.

a-human-right.com

packing.org

[susanhelit]

Look to your left Agnim - two other shootings - one in a Florida mall, the other in a Philly office park.

And that's just what happens to be linked here - we can always go out and get some of the many others. Remeber that horrible one that was a fast food place in Texas? These shootings happen.

[lars008-2009]

SusanHelit

trying to justify fascist nazi islamic muslims killing civilians all around the world are you haji???

[santo_marco]

Why won't they just come out and say that he is a Muslim? They mentioned that he quit school but kept going to prayer at a MOSQUE!!! Freakin' pansies, the media is!!! Nobody knows why he did it because he WAS perfectly sane...he just didn't like AMERICANS!!!

[lars008-2009]

hamiltongrad

exactly...........

Terrorism Awareness Project to wake up Americans and the World
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/islamic-mein-kampf

[rudy654-2009]

Oh, come on. All you racists are nothing but neo-nazis and KKK members. Remember, you agree that the Holocaust is a myth. I have seen your posts! So quit pretending you are against the terrorists. You actually agree with them.

[susanhelit]

Where's the sincere condemnation by the church of the Florida mall shooter? More relevantly - why isn't anyone here calling for his church to condemn his actions?

Not that the people calling for this condemnation ever listen to it - they don't really care about it. There's been plenty, even a fatwa against Osama BinLaden from muslim leaders - but you haven't bothered to read it - have you?

[hermit22]

in an autopsy do they check to see if the kid had a brain tumor? brain disease?

or was he taught evil?


the media needs to ask itself what are the ramifications of their perpetual violence teaching. if a religion teaches violence they need to be held accountable also. this is a very sad case. that family has been through the meat grinder for years.his mama said he was a good boy. i believed her. what happened?

[lars008-2009]

yes they do and they should be tried as accomplices

Muslim students 'being taught to despise unbelievers as filth'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2142403,00.html
http://www.shoebat.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaUftcRJ5wo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbaconeatingatheistj ew%2Eblogspot%2Ecom%2F
http://thepeoplescube.com/Islam.php
School trains suicide bombers
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1446003.stm
MUDSCUM CLERIC TEACHES KIDS ABOUT MARTYRDOM
"Egyptian Cleric Sheik Muhammad Nassar Tells a Group of Children about Child Martyrdom in the Early Days of Islam
Following are excerpts from a children's program hosted by Egyptian cleric, Sheik Muhammad Nassar, which aired on Al-Nas TV on June 15, 2006. Sheik Nassar is identified by Al-Nas TV as a preacher at the Egyptian ministry of religious endowment:
Sheik Muhammad Nassar: Let's listen to a very beautiful story to learn about the courage of a child, and how, when a child is brought up in a good home, and receives proper education in faith, he loves martyrdom, which becomes like an instinct for him. He can never give it up."
http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1185

[hermit22]

Clear Word Psalm 59:5.... "....Don't let those who plot evil get by with this. 6Every evening they come and prowl the streets of the city like dogs. 7Listen to their bellowing threats. They snarl about what they plan to do. They think no one knows that they plan to strike and topple....
8Lord, you can smile about all this secrecy because you know their plans.

9I have confidence in you, Lord, in your power and strength. You are my only refuge, my only hope.10I know you love me and that you will come to my rescue as you have in the past....

Did someone set this kid up? was he taught evil? who needs to be questioned?

[hermit22]

lars008, you are a real education!

[hermit22]

Clear Word Psalm 58:2 "....You overlook violence or even use it if it serves your purposes." This is a statement about "wicked" judges and rulers.(what about MEDIA money and evil religious teachers?)

4.Man has been bitten by the serpent....in turn, he bites and poisons others; his instincts are as deaf to reason as snakes who can't hear. 5 A snake charmer can't reason with his cobra when it rears its heard to strike; no magician can make it go contrary to its nature.6O Lord, break the sharp teeth of these unjust men before they hurt someone else. Close the fangs of these lions, O Lord!"

[beehive21-2009]

I've met many of these people in SLC they are good,hard working people,we all have a couple of loose cannons in every clan,don't judge the good ones by poor judgement by one.Were all sicken by this event .

[susanhelit]

Those of you wanting to go after all muslims - you know how we've caught the last several terrorist plots before they were able to do anything? Guess! Muslims! Yes, let's spell it out M-U-S-L-I-Ms who the terrorists told their plot to then risked their lives to tell us, help us get inside the plot, and break it up!

What have you done to stop terrorism, other than talk about all Muslims in such a way as to make those heros doubt their actions?

This kid - looks a lot like any other mall shooter - just plain nuts. The Florida guy wasn't a muslim, the philly guy wasn't a muslim - let's face it, sometimes people of all types go nuts and start shooting. I wouldn't put it on any religion or church until we know more about the motive.