Putin: U.S. Force "Almost Uncontained"

Says Bush Admininstration Policies Encourage Other Nations To Pursue Nuclear Weapons

(AP)  Russian President Vladimir Putin blasted the United States Saturday for the "almost uncontained" use of force in the world, and for encouraging other countries to acquire nuclear weapons.

In what his spokesman acknowledged were his harshest attacks on the U.S. since taking office in 2000, Putin also criticized U.S. plans for missile defense systems and NATO's expansion.

Putin told a security forum attracting top officials that "we are witnessing an almost uncontained hyper use of force in international relations" and that "one state, the United States, has overstepped its national borders in every way.

"This is very dangerous, nobody feels secure anymore because nobody can hide behind international law," Putin told the gathering.

Putin did not elaborate on specifics and did not mention the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan.

But he voiced concern about U.S. plans to build a missile defense system in eastern Europe — likely in Poland and the Czech Republic — and the expansion of NATO as possible challenges to Russia.

On the missile defense system, Putin said: "I don't want to accuse anyone of being aggressive" but suggested it would seriously change the balance of power and could provoke an unspecified response.

"That balance will be upset completely and one side will have a feeling of complete security and given a free hand in local, and probably in global, conflicts..." he said. "We need to respond to this."

Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., said the charge that the U.S. "aspired to get unipolar power or acted unilaterally is just not borne out by the facts."

"Even our involvement in Iraq, certainly Afghanistan, is pursuant to United Nations resolutions," Lieberman said at the conference. "So that was provocative and wrong."

Asked if he had any reaction to Putin's charges, Defense Secretary Robert Gates just shook his head and said no.

Putin's spokesman Dimitry Peskov said the Russian leader did not intend to be confrontational, but acknowledged it was his harshest criticism of the United States since he was elected in March 2000.

Putin also criticized NATO expansion.

"The process of NATO expansion has nothing to do with modernization of the alliance or with ensuring security in Europe," Putin said. "On the contrary, it is a serious factor provoking reduction of mutual trust."

Putin's comments to a weekend forum attended by 250 officials, including Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani, came after German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that the international community is determined to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons.

Merkel said Tehran needed to accept demands made by the U.N. and the International Atomic Energy Agency.

"There is no way around this," Merkel said. "What we are talking about here is a very, very sensitive technology, and for that reason we need a high degree of transparency, which Iran has failed to provide, and if Iran does not do so then the alternative for Iran is to slip further into isolation."

Merkel, whose country holds the rotating European Union presidency, emphasized the international community's support for Israel and said there was a unified resolve to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

"We are determined to prevent the threat posed by an Iranian military nuclear program," she said.

The annual Munich Conference on Security Policy, now in its 43rd year, is often used as an opportunity for officials to conduct diplomacy in an informal setting.

Some 3,500 police were on hand to provide tight security for the conference and kept the usual throng of demonstrators away. This year, several thousand protesters were expected, protest organizers said.

Heading in to the conference, Larijani, who is scheduled to speak on Sunday, said he planned to use the conference as an opportunity to talk about Iran's nuclear program. Those would be the first talks with Western officials since limited U.N. sanctions were imposed on the country in December, which fell short of harsher measures sought by the United States.

Larijani was expected to meet with German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier and Javier Solana, the EU's chief foreign policy envoy.

At the opening dinner on Friday, Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni urged international solidarity in putting pressure on Iran to prevent it from producing a nuclear weapon.

"It is a regime that mocks the Holocaust while threatening the world with a new one, while trying to develop a weapon to do so," she said. "Iran is a threat not only to Israel ... but to the world. The international community cannot show any hesitation ... Any hesitation on our part is being perceived as weakness."

The conference this year focuses on "Global Crises — Global Responsibilities," looking at NATO's changing role, the Middle East peace process, the West's relations with Russia and the fight against terrorism.

Merkel opened the conference telling the delegates that one of the major threats facing the world today is global warming, urging a combined effort to combat it.

"Global warming is one of the major medium- to long-term threats that could have a dramatic effect," Merkel said.

Gates, who planned to talk Sunday on trans-Atlantic relations, was expected to press allies for more troops and aid for a spring offensive in Afghanistan.

He delivered the message Friday to a NATO defense minister's meeting in Seville, Spain, but got a lukewarm response.

France and Germany are questioning the wisdom of sending more soldiers, while Spain, Italy and Turkey have also been wary of providing more troops.

[swwils]

well it isn't like we are getting any help from them so we have to do whatever it takes to get the job done.By any means necessary.

[gunownerdan]

"What has destroyed liberty and the rights of man in every government which has ever existed under the sun? The generalizing and concentrating all cares and powers into one body."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."
-- President Dwight D. Eisenhower, Farewell Address to the Nation,
January 17, 1961

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
-- H.L. Mencken, The Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

[crater7]

swwils: WE HAVE TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET THE JOB DONE. WHAT JOB, ARE YOU REFERRING TO? DOES THAT MEAN INVADING A COUNTRY, THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11, BOMBING THEM INTO THE DARK AGES, AND THEM TELL THEM THEY NEED A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT? THAT WORKED OUT WELL, WHAT'S THE NEXT JOB, WE NEED TO GET DONE?

[pandoraboxed]

Bush needs to be removed from office NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
He has singlehandedly alienated the entire planet, he is a total buffoon who has disgraced this nation over & over again. Stick him in a padded room with a bunch of books.

[grumpas]

swwils: What job are you referring to? You mean Iraq who had no weapons of mass destruction, who was no threat to us as a country, terrorist's or it's leader who had nothing to do with 9/11? I can see where Putin is coming from here! Bush has made the world a lot more dangerous with his flexing his muscles and acting like a mental patient! He has sparked a nuclear arms race amoung all these small countries so they can defend themselves from a religious nut(Bush) running amok in the middle east! As far as terrorism goes! Bush has only made it a 1000% worse than it was before! Now the whole world hates us! I imagine we would be hard put to find a friend anywhere except maybe the *** kisser Blair! So, what has Bush's blustering done for us????? He acts like a school yard bully that needs his *** kicked!

[carrickonsuir]

W has strong-armed the United States bicameral legislature into inefficacy, so we are subject to the world community to overture some semblance of checks-and-balances. His "I'm an r-**** cowboy" routine is winning us new and old enemies, alike.

[mokemorgan]

It's like being a passenger on a bus careening over the edge of an embankment, with the driver (Bush)slumped over the steering wheel, except we all knew he was inebriated long before we asked him to drive. Oh, and there are children at the bottom of the cliff. (the rest of the world)

[plowhandle]

This ignorant, inbred, cross-eyed Bolshevik uses newspapers to wipehisass and he thinks we still quake at an impotent Russian's threats ?

Let him try something stupid.

The Russians don't even have the technology WE had fifteen years ago !

Their economy is in ruins, their streets are ruled by thieves and their children sell themselves for the pleasure of the rich. Their country simply doesn't count anymore.

[racam-2009]

For example, one article talked this morning concerning the fact that this was the first time in 80 years that the present administration will not have any representation in the 2008 presidential elections. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe that people that are incarcerated can run for the office of president. Most of the corrupt administration is either in jail or waiting to go there. Bush has made a mockery of this United States which up till now has always been a proud country that other nations looked to for this protection and assurance. Bush and his hawks have taken that away.

[pandoraboxed]

Their economy is in ruins, their streets are ruled by thieves and their children sell themselves for the pleasure of the rich. Their country simply doesn't count anymore.
Posted by Plowhandle at 10:21 AM : Feb 10, 2007

hmmmmmmmm sounds like the good ole USofA

Plowhandle, you are a moron! just like the buffoon you put in office.

Why there hasn't been a major uprising in this nation I don't understand. Every American with at least one brain cell should be picketing this dictatorship till he surrenders office. GWB you are a disgrace.

[wolf563]

The only reason Russia is up in arms is because of the money they are about to lose from the sale of nuclear power plants . Putin says nothing about his strong arming other countries for fuel and control of there future ,or his inability to control the muslims in his own country as they fight in the streets and protest. IRAN should have never made a statement about removing ISRAEL from the face of the earth or deny the holocost ever happened .IRAN brought this on them selves and will pay for it .

[pandoraboxed]

I wish there was a way to let the rest of the world know that more than 9/10th of the US doesn't support their President!

[crater7]

plowhandle: LET HIM TRY SOMETHING STUPID: SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE READY TO START SLINGING SOME NUKES AROUND. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA, THEN NONE OF US WOULD HAVE TO WORRY ANY MORE. RUSSIA IS STILL THE SECOND MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. THEY HAVE ENOUGH NUKES, TO WIPE US OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET, AND HAVE SOME LEFT OVER. YOUR RIGHT, LET HIM START SOMETHING STUPID. GO AHEAD, MAKE MY DAY. HUGH?

[lars008-2009]

STOP TERRORISM OR MECCA GETS NUKED!!!

NUKE MECCA OPTION
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/129759

Chirac threatens nuke terror for terrorism
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/73926

Chirac: Nuclear Response to Terrorism Is Possible
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/19/AR2006011903311.html?nav=hcmodule

[pandoraboxed]

What did the dumb a$$ say at the start of the war? BRING IT ON!!!!!

Right after the idiot said that he should have been removed from office.
I dunno I think what bush has done is a whole lot worse than dripping some seamen on a dress. Maybe if bushes balls were not so blue we wouldn't be in this mess?

[lars008-2009]

Boom goes London and boom Paree
More room for you and more room for me
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it will be
We'll set everybody free
You'll wear a Japanese kimono
And there'll be Italian shoes for me

They all hate us anyhow
So let's drop the big one now
Let's drop the big one now

[mdk2dude]

I am glad that none of you were here in the middle of the 20th century because if you were the language in the United States would be German and the west coast would be owned and run by Japan. When do the present generation look back and see what problems hiding your head in the sand will cause. We have tried all that surrender stuff and all it does is embolden people like Putin. Not too many years ago we had a president that I am sure none of you liked and his name was Reagan. He beleived in a strong USA and he proved that was a correct policy. Now the children of our generation have had it all done for them so they think sacrifice for liberty is stupid. They should thank every soldier they meet for protecting them from harm and allowing the stupid responses I have seen here this morning.

[rplat]

Reference your web article: Putin: U.S. Force "Almost Uncontained"

Putin is a trained KGB agent, a professional liar, and operates solely in the interests of a pseudo-communist agenda and the Russian state. Anything he does or says must be evaluated in that context.

[crater7]

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE SUPPORTING THE IDEA OF USING NUKES, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU WATCH AN OLD 1984 MOVIE,"THE DAY AFTER".THE MOVIE WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE INSIGHT OF WHAT TO EXPECT AFTER SOME IS STUPID ENOUGH TO PUSH THE BUTTON. THE REAL AFTER EFFECTS WOULD BE FAR GREATER THAN THE MOVIE SHOWS. NUKE THEM ALL.

[pandoraboxed]

Reference your web article: Putin: U.S. Force "Almost Uncontained"

Bush is a trained , a professional liar, and operates solely in the interests of himself. Anything he does or says must be evaluated by Tricky dicky
Posted by rplat at 11:59 AM : Feb 10, 2007

I am glad that none of you were here in the middle of the 20th century because if you were the language in the United States would be German and the west coast would be owned and run by Japan. When do the present generation look back and see what problems hiding your head in the sand will cause. We have tried all that surrender stuff and all it does is embolden people like Putin. Not too many years ago we had a president that I am sure none of you liked and his name was Reagan. He beleived in a strong USA and he proved that was a correct policy. Now the children of our generation have had it all done for them so they think sacrifice for liberty is stupid. They should thank every soldier they meet for protecting them from harm and allowing the stupid responses I have seen here this morning.
Posted by mdk2dude at 11:57 AM : Feb 10, 2007

MDKgaydude you are a idiot! pull your head from the sands of time, your has to be the stupidest response yet.

[lars008-2009]

GO HOME & GET A NICE QUIET SLEEP!!
sound familiar???..... it should!!!

THERE IS NO PEACE WITH PISSLAM!!!!

NEVER HAS BEEN..........NEVER WILL BE.....

PEACE FOR OUR TIME WITH PISSLAM...LOL...
RIGHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT%u2026%u2026.SOUNDS LIKE FAMOUS LAST WORDS

1938: 'Peace for our time' - Chamberlain
The British Prime Minister has been hailed as bringing "peace to Europe" after signing a non-aggression pact with Germany.
PM Neville Chamberlain arrived back in the UK today, holding an agreement signed by Adolf Hitler which stated the German leader's desire never to go to war with Britain again.

The two men met at the Munich conference between Britain, Germany, Italy and France yesterday, convened to decide the future of Czechoslovakia's Sudetenland.

My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is "peace for our time." Go home and get a nice quiet sleep
http://britannia.com/history/docs/peacetime.html
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/execution/beheading/

[lars008-2009]

islam is a violation of international law

islam practices slavery on non muslims
islam practices aparthied on non muslims
islam practices rape on non muslims
islam practices genocide on non muslims

all are violations of international law and are crimes against humanity

[fizzal-2009]

Whats that Putin complaining about? The stock market in Russia has increesed 100% since democracy took hold this past year. Score one for democracy!

[bluestardad]

Putin you win don't worry keep smiling

[pandoraboxed]

Score one for democracy!
Posted by fizzal at 12:26 PM : Feb 10, 2007

you think bush supports democracy? He is nothing more than a brutal dictator & religious fanatic.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IMPEACH BUSH NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pandoraboxed]

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IMPEACH BUSH NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rafterman1]

"MDKgaydude you are a idiot! pull your head from the sands of time, your has to be the stupidest response yet."

I generally find that when a post contains the phrase "if it was you in charge, we'd all be speaking...(fill in the blank with your favorite foreign enemy), ridiculousness will soon follow. The true sign of someone with no argument.

[bluestardad]

The middle east is not in Americas interest! Pull out 50 years of investment in blood, money, and effort has proven no results! Lets interupt your ignorance with some facts! Israel and Saudi neocons are pushing us to war!

Founded in 1953 by Isaiah L. "Si" Kenen, AIPAC's original name was the American Zionist Committee for Public Affairs. According to UCLA political science professor and author, Steven Spiegel, "the tension between the Eisenhower administration and Israeli supporters was so acute that there were rumors that the administration would investigate the American Zionist Council. Therefore, an independent lobbying committee was formed, which years later was renamed [AIPAC]." [SPIEGEL, p. 52].[citation needed] Today, AIPAC has over 100,000 members.[1]
Activities and stated goals
AIPAC's stated purpose is to lobby the Congress of the United States on issues and legislation "to ensure that the U.S.-Israel relationship is strong so that both countries can work together" to meet the challenges of "stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, fighting terrorism and achieving peace".[2] It regularly meets with members of Congress and holds events where it can share its views. It also provides analysis of the voting records of U.S. federal representatives and senators with regard to how they voted on legislation related to Israel. The New York Times described AIPAC on July 6, 1987 as "a major force in shaping United States policy in the Middle East."

[lars008-2009]

HEY PUTIN!!!!!

NEVER FORGET THE RAPES OF BESLAN GIRLS!
Terror at Beslan
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1316935651894423094

RAPES IN BESLAN: IN MUHAMMAD%u2019S FOOTSTEPS
http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/News/Trifkovic04/NewsST091304.html

Forget Not the Children of Beslan
http://kenlydell.typepad.com/islamic_evil/forget_not_the_children_of_beslan/index.html

[book54552134]

mdk2dude - Many on the Extremist Right like to invoke the argument that, had the US not intervened in the war in Europe during WW II, that European's would not have been 'saved,' as if to imply (rather arrogantly,) that Europeans are forever indebted to the US for that.
What they forget to include is that the US was in an extremely isolationist mood at that time partly due to the effects of the Great Depression. Few in America wanted the country to get involved in an expensive war with Nazi Germany.
However, after Pearl Harbor & Axis partners Germany & Italy's subsequent declaration of war against the US, (which effectively nullified the US position of neutrality on the war in Europe,) Americans had little choice but to defend themselves & to respond visa-vee with a declaration of war against them which evenually included an American invasion of Western Europe (Eastern Europe was being attended to by the Soviet Union) in order to confront the German military.
America's invasion of Western Europe had little to do with American desire to 'save' Europe from Nazi fascism. Rather, that was simply an incidental effect of America's efforts to win the war against declared enemies of the US.

[lars008-2009]

The Americanization of Emily
Lt. Cmdr. Charles E. Madison: You American haters bore me to tears, Ms. Barham. I've dealt with Europeans all my life. I know all about us parvenus from the States who come over here and race around your old Cathedral towns with our cameras and Coca-cola bottles... Brawl in your pubs, paw at your women, and act like we own the world. We over-tip, we talk too loud, we think we can buy anything with a Hershey bar. I've had Germans and Italians tell me how politically ingenuous we are, and perhaps so. But we haven't managed a Hitler or a Mussolini yet. I've had Frenchmen call me a savage because I only took half an hour for lunch. Hell, Ms. Barham, the only reason the French take two hours for lunch is because the service in their restaurants is lousy. The most tedious lot are you British. We crass Americans didn't introduce war into your little island. This war, Ms. Barham to which we Americans are so insensitive, is the result of 2,000 years of European greed, barbarism, superstition, and stupidity. Don't blame it on our Coca-cola bottles. Europe was a growing brothel long before we came to town.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057840/quotes

[mgpm-2009]

Unlike some other places we can actually change our government. And we will...

[tuckerndfw]

George Bush is merely following the example set by Adolf Hitler & the German Nazis.

The Bush family trust fund was established by his grandfather, CT Senater Prescott Bush. Grandpa Bush discovered that the easiest way for "insiders" to become wealthy was by supporting "war."

The entire Bush crime family currently relies on money Grandpa Prescott made by war profiteering during WWII. It is obvious Junior intneds to continue the tradition.

AFter all, to them, it's free money. They do nothing to earn it or risk anything to attain it.

Unless, of course, they are indicted and brought to trial for their numerous crimes, including war crimes. that is.

[lars008-2009]

it is the stupid silly little fascist nazi islamic muslim..... that are following the example set by Adolf Hitler & the German Nazis.

no wait...... hitler learned it from the fascist nazi islamic muslims.........

Ali Sina, an ex-Muslim from Iran. He is the creator of Faithfreedom.org.
Yet I know that by eradicating Islam we can save the world from the dangers of a catastrophe that otherwise is looming over our heads and could cause more disaster than the 1st and 2nd World Wars combined. Eradication of Islam means restoring peace among humanity and civility, democracy and prosperity in the Muslim world.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/why_i_left_islam.htm

[skyk-2009]

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it is the stupid silly little fascist nazi islamic muslim..... that are following the example set by Adolf Hitler & the German Nazis.

no wait...... hitler learned it from the fascist nazi islamic muslims.........

Ali Sina, an ex-Muslim from Iran. He is the creator of Faithfreedom.org.
Yet I know that by eradicating Islam we can save the world from the dangers of a catastrophe that otherwise is looming over our heads and could cause more disaster than the 1st and 2nd World Wars combined. Eradication of Islam means restoring peace among humanity and civility, democracy and prosperity in the Muslim world.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/s
ina/why_i_left_islam.htm
Posted by lars008 at 01:28 PM : Feb 10, 2007


What are you babbling about? Do they know you are out of your room?

[skyk-2009]

If, as Sir Lies-A-Lot tells us, winning against Terror is about winning the Hearts and Minds of the People, I'd say we've pretty much lost. Sir Lies-A-Lot, when you look at what the people of EVERY country in the entire world are saying, is pretty much the most hated piece of scum on planet earth!

[grndstff]

How the far right of the intelligence bell curve can still support this administration would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic. They have squandered opportunities for world cooperation in the war on terror for an elective resource grab and free for all raping of the treasury of the United States based on a premeditated series of lies and deceit

[pandoraboxed]

IMPEACH BUSH NOW

get that idiot out of control before it's really too late!

http://impeachbush.org

[pandoraboxed]

send bush hunting with tricky dicky!

[pandoraboxed]

send the twins to Iraq!

[tbweb]

The Russian President has his points. But the American use of force is a direct result of the ineffectiveness of the United Nations and its inability and unwillingness to act in the past, leading to American frustration! President Putin can't be ignored and its important for the US to address his concerns seriously. Without Russian support the world will be a lot more dangerous. The solution is to make the UN credible and an organization every nation can look to and trust.

[tuckerndfw]

But the American use of force is a direct result of the ineffectiveness of the United Nations and its inability and unwillingness to act in the past, leading to American frustration!

Posted by tbweb at 02:01 PM : Feb 10, 2007

=============


The "American use of force" is the direct result of the GOP's refusal to uphold the US Constitution or rule of law.

If the UN did its job, George Bush & most of his administration would be in a Brussels' prison awaiting trials for crimes against humantiy and other related war crimes.

[josephxmas]

Only those deceived by the "misinformation" provided by the GOP directed military-spy complex are duped into falsities and a sense of frustration! When there is profit in truth, then the GOP will release it as non-classified info!

[tbweb]

-- tuckerndfw

If you take all the information available about Iraq and the war, good and bad and weigh it, and the fact that Sadaam ignored every UN warning and resolution including all the misjudgments and mistakes, it was still the correct choice to remove Sadaam from power. Invading Iraq to do it, I don't agree with that, but Sadaam had to go one way or the other.

[formrusmcsgt]

If you take all the information available about Iraq and the war, good and bad and weigh it, and the fact that Sadaam ignored every UN warning and resolution including all the misjudgments and mistakes, it was still the correct choice to remove Sadaam from power. Invading Iraq to do it, I don't agree with that, but Sadaam had to go one way or the other.
Posted by tbweb at 02:22 PM : Feb 10, 2007

Then you have no problem with Iran extending it's sphere of influence into SE Iraq. Hussein kept Iran at bay, but the gatekeeper was taken out by the neocons.

Iran must be laughing right up their sleeve at the neocon's handing them on a platter what they wanted and couldn't attain in their own.

[tbweb]

-- formrusmcsgt

The Iranian President mocks the Holocaust and wants nukes to create a new one! Learn from the lessons from Iraq and instead of invading or attacking Iran, remove Mahmoud Ahmadinejad from power by any means necessary! Even the Iranians don't like this extremist!

[formrusmcsgt]

Even the Iranians don't like this extremist!
Posted by tbweb at 02:30 PM : Feb 10, 2007

Then they can vote him out. You want Iran taking out our administration because only 30% approve of it?

[formrusmcsgt]

tbweb-

How can you be so anti-Iran and so in favor of idiots that handed SE Iraq over to them?

[tbweb]

-- formrusmcsgt

Mistakes were made for sure, but we have to allow time for our political process to fix that. Lucky for us were not communist and have elections that allow the fixing to take place.

[formrusmcsgt]

Mistakes were made for sure, but we have to allow time for our political process to fix that. Lucky for us were not communist and have elections that allow the fixing to take place.
Posted by tbweb at 02:43 PM : Feb 10, 2007

The Iranians aren't communists either. And as for fixing our handing Iraq over to Iran, there's no going back on that one, bub.