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Shiite politicians allied with anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr denounced the arrest of Deputy Health Minister Hakim al-Zamili as a violation of Iraqi sovereignty and demanded that the prime minister intervene to win his release.
CBS News chief foreign correspondent Lara Logan spoke to Ali-al-Shammari, the outraged Iraqi Health Minister, who protested the innocence of his deputy.
"I will not accept that he will work with me and at the same time he is kidnapping or killing other people," he said.
But Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and his senior advisers remained silent. Al-Maliki, a Shiite, is under strong U.S. pressure to crack down on Shiite militias and has pledged not to interfere in the security operation to rid Baghdad's streets of gunmen from both Islamic sects.
Logan reports that al-Zamili is suspected of allowing al-Sadr loyalists easy access to Baghdad's hospitals, where the militants would often kill doctors, nurses, and family members who came to visit loved ones injured in the daily attacks - or to collect their bodies.
The arrest took place at 9 a.m., an hour after Iraqi government offices generally open. Iraqi troops pushed through the iron gates of the Health Ministry building in northern Baghdad, ordered people to drop to the ground and rushed to al-Zamili's ground-floor office, witnesses said.
One of al-Zamili's bodyguards said American soldiers accompanying the force asked everyone to step aside and approached the deputy minister, who introduced himself. A U.S. soldier handcuffed al-Zamili and led him away, the guard said on condition of anonymity because he feared reprisal.
AP Television News footage of al-Zamili's office showed overturned chairs and smashed computers along with scattered files and telephones on the floor. Dusty, white boot prints marked the door, apparently because the troops had kicked it in.
This arrest is seen in Iraq as a test of wills that will reveal how far the Iraqi Prime Minister is prepared to go in alienating his allies and supporting the latest U.S. effort to secure Baghdad, Logan reports.
Meanwhile, in Anbar province west of Baghdad, a U.S. air strike killed 13 insurgents in a raid on two safe houses where intelligence showed foreign fighters were assembled near Amiriyah, the military said. Five militants were detained and a weapons cache was found in an initial raid on a target near the safe houses.
Police and hospital officials in the area offered a conflicting account, saying the airstrike hit the village of Zaidan south of Abu Ghraib and flattened four houses, killing 45 people, including women, children and old people.
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See all 108 CommentsBe prepared for all sorts of really rosy reports of progress, to counter act the reports of increasing dead.
Remember last summer when Together Forward was such a success! All you heard were great reports of progress, then all of a sudden, quiet. It is hard to keep up the rosy reports when the situation falls apart.
The more rosy the reports, the worse it really is!
We know that terrorists are bad guys. You don't have to keep posting those links. But our staying in Iraq is playing right into the terorists' hands, not defeating them.
As I said, this is a disaster....
If it's such an honor to martyr yourself for the cause of jihad, perhaps we can help you along with the process.
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So for every "insurgent" we kill, we kill or maim over three ordinary people. Boy, what a great way to win the hearts and minds. That is exactly why the insurgents mix themselves in with the general populace.
Going after the insurgents with helicopters, bombs and bullets is counterproductive. Success requires intelligence, patience, fluency in the language, moles on the inside providing the insurgent structure, command chain, plans, supply depots, movements, etc. In other words, spy craft and dogged police work; not blasting away at the general populace. You don%u2019t blow them to pieces in the streets, you wait and plan and then round them all up at once in the middle of the night. You get them all and no innocents are involved.
DO THE MATH!! THAT MEANS FOR EVERY 100 MEN FIGHTING IN THEIR CIVIL WAR THAT WE KILL, WE WILL KILL ABOUT 350 WOMEN AND CHILDREN!!
IMPEACH BUSH!! NOW!!
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Why aren't YOU over there fighting the evil doers? Yet, another, chicken hawk, arm chair wannabe warrior...
What a bunch of lame excuses...Do you read the news or just look at pictures? The military has called up grandmothers older then you to serve in Iraq. Either you are a sissy experiencing menopause or you are simply Alligator mouth/Hummingbird tail. Be a real MAN, go to Iraq and kill innocent women and children or SHUT UP!
However, I'm pretty sure that if the rapist Bill Clinton were the one in the White House, this would be an entirely different story.
LOL
Posted by bigwhtpony at
New campaign slogan: "I would rather be carpet munching than carpet bombing!" - Hillary Clinton
LOL
Posted by bigwhtpony
Two incredible examples of intelligent discourse. Don't lie to us, you have a high level position in the Bush administration... don't you?
Doing more of the same and expecting a different outcome is a symptom of insanity.
George Bush should be impeached and the Iraqi "government" told they can do whatever they want with the criminals in Iraq. It's not US taxpayers' or soldiers' responsibility to babysit Iraqis.
Bring the troops home NOW and impeach George Bush. And prosecute all those who supported this war crime and fiasco.
Simple solutions to this whole mess.
How much military time do you have? If you so gun-ho about having someone else do something, you should know what it is like before you open your mouth.
Posted by missmyhubby
Correct, we should support the troops and bring them home. They will continue to die until that happens.
It may suprrise you to know that I have ALWAYS been against this war - even before we went in. But things are the way they are. We are in. And we need to win....not cut and run. It's just a fact of life. And whether 10 or 10,000 Iraqi civillians die, that's the price of war - "least we should all grow too fond of it." - R.E. Lee
The 3,000 US dead are a horror and a tragedy, as they should never have been there. No WMDs. No connection to 9/11. No evidence of connection to Al Qaeda. Lots of oil, though. Hmmmm.
Estimates veer widely between the Bush-approved (that is, massively understated and lied about) number of 150,000 Iraqi dead, and the UN estimate (probably more accurate, but who knows) of 650,000. Either a very large town or a medium-sized city, in other words.
Yes, thank you, President Bush, for sending our men and women to die for your and your friends' bank accounts. Thank you for not even letting them fight to win, because the longer the war lasts, the more money you and your friends make. Thank you for killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and by Israeli intelligence estimates, multiplying the number of terrorists actively working against us by a factor of 5. Thank you for spending $400 billion we don't have to finance it. Thank you for alienating our friends around the world and creating countless new enemies.
Thank you, in short, for being the greedy, stupid, dishonest, evil prick we all knoew you were. Thank you, Mr. President.
Posted by bigwhtpony
TOTAL BS No one but a right wingnut warmongering moron would use that term.
Suck on THAT. She did.
You ignorant, racist piece of garbage.
The right-wingers always insist that the left-wingers "ain't got no PLAN! Duuuuuh ..." but don't seem to actually have any idea what the goals of this misbegotten bloodbath are actually supposed to be.
Posted by missmyhubby
Correct, we should support the troops and bring them home. They will continue to die until that happens.
Posted by dallison7 at 01:39 PM : Feb 08, 2007
I agree--the only problem: it doesn't look like they are coming home any time soon...believe me I want my husband out of Iraq YESTERDAY!!! But if he is stuck there, and he is stuck there, then let him use the weapon he carries....50 armed men after curfew...my husband and his men were not allowed to engage them...ARMED MEN!...because the armed men, illegally armed men, did not engage our troops first. So what happened--the armed men scattered like rats and lived another day to kill innocent Iraqis and US soldiers! EXCELLENT!
So keep whacking your winky while fantasizing about your sister, and leave the hard stuff to real Americans.
You're tough rhetoric on 'acceptable casualties' leads me to believe that you are a Buch/Cheney type of hawk...not deterred by a few casualities as long as it's not you or anyone you know doing the bleeding, while dodging the draft or military yourselves.
Am I wrong?
Just think...as a rifle company commander in Viet Nam, Al Gore, had he not had the presidency stolen from him by a Republican-packed Supreme Court, is pretty certain not not have gotten us bogged down in Iraq and the US taxpayer would be a couple of TRILLION richer.
We're so fortunate to have these tough 'deciders' running things.
Really, come home anyway as there was no reason for US forces to be there to begin with. But if you must send people there, at least let them do their job.
And bigwhtpony ... it's the sure sign of a jingoistic, brainwashed moron to confuse supporting an unjust, unnecessary, immoral and illegal war with patriotism. You, in fact, are the one who doesn't get it.
Yelling "Go America! *** yeah!" while other people do the fighting and dying for you is not "the hard stuff". "Real Americans" are the ones who pay attention and try to do something when their country is going wrong, not the ones who treat war like an athletic event and cheer from the sidelines.
Posted by bigwhtpony
I found one of your post from another site to prove what a liar you are.
After basic training at Fort Dix, Gore was assigned as a military journalist writing for The Army Flier, the base newspaper at Fort Rucker. With seven months remaining in his enlistment, he was shipped to Vietnam, arriving January 2, 1971. He served for four months with the 20th Engineer Brigade in Bien Hoa and for another month at the Army Engineer Command in Long Binh. As his unit was standing down, he applied for and received a non-essential personnel discharge two months early in order to attend divinity school at Vanderbilt University.[5] The chronology of Gore's military service is:
So keep whacking your winky while fantasizing about your sister, and leave the hard stuff to real Americans.
Posted by bigwhtpony
For your information, you stupid punk, I was conceived in the fouries. In the seventies I was fighting in Vietnam. What's your war record Mr. big-shot. You're just another punk chickenhawk talking big.
Where was Bush? Rehab? Community service? Passed out in a frathouse? Where?
there is nothing wrong with exposing the truth about fascist nazi islamic muslims...
no more than exposing the truth about fascist nazi germany.......
1) My name is not Haji
2) Haji is a Hindu, not a Muslim, name
If you must insist that "Islam is the enemy", you might at least learn something about it.
Which, I am very sure, is more than I can say for you bedwetting liberals.
Which, I am very sure, is more than I can say for you bedwetting liberals.
Posted by bigwhtpony
You're lying agian, assh*le
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