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(CBS/AP)  Bombings and mortar attacks killed dozens across Baghdad on Monday as Iraqi troops set up new checkpoints and an Iraqi general took command — indications that the much-awaited operation to restore peace to the capital is gearing up nearly a month after it was announced.

With little sign of an end to the carnage, many Iraqis have begun complaining that the security drive has been too slow in starting, allowing extremists free rein to launch spectacular attacks that have killed nearly 1,000 in the past week.

Monday's death toll supported their frustration. At least 74 people were killed or found dead across the country — all but seven of them in Baghdad.

Iraqi politicians — Shiite and Sunni alike — urged the government to speed up implementation of the plan, which President Bush announced Jan. 11. The operation would put thousands of U.S. and Iraqi troops on the street to protect civilians against sectarian bombers and death squads.

In a sign that the crackdown is near, Iraqi troops manned a major new checkpoint Monday at the northern gate to Baghdad, searching cars and trucks heading to and from Sunni insurgent areas to the north. Soldiers and police said the checkpoint was set up as part of the security plan.

Elsewhere, Rahim al-Daraji, a senior official in Sadr City, said police were already moving into the capital's sprawling Shiite slum, stronghold of the notorious Mahdi Army militia.

And Lt. Gen. Abboud Gambar, who will direct the operation, took charge of his still-unfinished command center Monday in a former Saddam Hussein palace located inside the American-controlled Green Zone.

Gambar, who was taken prisoner by U.S. troops in the 1991 Gulf War, will have two Iraqi deputies, one on each side of the Tigris River, which flows through the center of the capital. The city will be divided into nine districts, each with as many as 600 U.S. soldiers to back up Iraqi troops who will take the lead in the security drive.

In announcing the plan, Bush said he was sending 21,500 additional American troops mostly to Baghdad in what is widely seen as a last chance to quell the sectarian violence ravaging the capital and surrounding regions.

About 3,000 paratroopers from the 2nd Brigade of the 82nd Airborne Division arrived in Iraq in late January and were expected to begin operations in the coming days. But the last of the U.S. reinforcements are not due until May.

In other developments:

  • A Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee is cautioning Republicans against blocking a vote Monday on a resolution opposing President Bush's troop increase in Iraq, saying it would be a "terrible mistake." But Arizona Sen. John McCain, the top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said proponents of the nonbinding, bipartisan resolution were undermining national security.

  • The U.S. command has ordered changes in flight operations after four helicopters were shot down in the last two weeks, the chief military spokesman said Sunday, acknowledging for the first time that the aircraft were lost to hostile fire. The crashes, which began Jan. 20, follow insurgent claims that they have received new stocks of anti-aircraft weapons — and a recent boast by Sunni militants that "God has granted new ways" to threaten U.S. aircraft.

  • In Baghdad, gunmen wearing police uniforms and using police cars attacked an armored truck delivering cash, kidnapped five bank officials and made off with $350,000, police said. The kidnapped bank employees were found handcuffed in the armored truck in eastern Baghdad, police said. The victims told police that 15 men wearing Ministry of Interior Police Commando uniforms and driving three government cars conducted the heist.

  • In an early morning attack in Mosul, the deputy governor of Nineveh province was wounded along with three bodyguards when their convoy was hit by a roadside bomb, said Hisham al-Hamdani, chief of the provincial security committee. Mosul is 225 miles north of Baghdad.

  • On Sunday, an Interior Ministry official said about 1,000 Iraqis — including civilians, security forces and gunmen — had been killed in the last week alone. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the figures. Figures tallied by The Associated Press from police and government statements put the death toll from Jan. 28 until Saturday at 911.

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    by bluestardad February 5, 2007 7:31 AM PST
    This guy is a bobble head academic! That is selling troops lives for one more star on his shoulder.
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    by hillaryin08 February 5, 2007 7:50 AM PST
    bluestardad

    Mabe its time you and your buddies pick up a rifle and go over and help the enemy. This next offensive against the insergency is going to get pretty ugly and we dont want you and the rest of the defeatest jumping off any buildings. All of the Soldiers, Sailors Airmen and Marines including the flag officers have a job to do weather you liberals like it or not. If you really are a Blue Star Dad, do your kid a favor and stop impuning them and take out your hatred for the rich on something else. Mabe croche?
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    by bluestardad February 5, 2007 7:59 AM PST
    What has our fearless Chicken Hawk Game plan been doing for the last 4 years, 3000 plus lives, and billions of tax dollars? Have we not been trying to provide security and stand up the Iraqi Army? Stay the course.
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    by bluestardad February 5, 2007 8:02 AM PST
    hillaryin08; bushrocks 1, janemcgreevy, liberman18, janemm, jane1234; or what ever handle you are blogging under today. why don't you change the discussion to religion or some other diversion tactic as you will never win the Iraq war one.
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    by dallison7 February 5, 2007 8:02 AM PST
    "What has happened to Khazim is part of the series of provocative acts by the occupation forces against the Sadr movement. The occupation forces know well who are the terrorists and their whereabouts, yet they are targeting our people," al-Ageili told The Associated Press

    Here is an example of why we should not be involved in another country's civil war.

    I personally don't know why we attacked Iraq. I suspect it is simply for domination of the oil reserves. One thing for sure, we did not go there to fight terrorists, the terrorists weren't there until we took down the government. We did not attack Iraq because they were a threat to us, of course they could potentially have become a threat to us in the future but that is true of many nations, should we attack them all?

    The point is, even though it is the fault of the American regime that this nation has fallen into civil war, it is their civil war and the interference of any foriegn nation will only porlong the fighting.
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    by hillaryin08 February 5, 2007 8:04 AM PST
    The spelling corrected version

    Maybe its time you and your buddies pick up a rifle and go over and help the enemy. This next offensive against the insurgency is going to get pretty ugly and we don%u2019t want you and the rest of the defeatist jumping off any buildings. All of the Soldiers, Sailors Airmen, and Marines including the flag officers have a job to do weather you liberals like it or not. If you really are a Blue Star Dad, do your kid a favor and stop impuning them and take out your hatred for the rich on something else. Maybe crochet?

    It takes time to stand up an Army that is lead by professionals. The Army's of the Dictators are lead by guys who will shoot those who dont obey. They are not conscrips anymore, they are volunteers just like us and until they beleive that what they have now can be lost, they will not fight like us. 35 years of Saddam did that to them.
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    by lars008-2009 February 5, 2007 8:06 AM PST
    here's your enemy skippy..... try to remember that..... there will be a test later....

    UK TV AIRS SHOCK 'UNDERCOVER' LOOK INTO MAINSTREAM BRIT MOSQUES...
    Dispatches: Undercover Mosque
    This is part one of the much-anticipated UK Channel 4 documentary Dispatches: Undercover Mosque, exposing evidence of Islamic supremacism, shocking misogyny, and support for violence at a number of Britain%u2019s leading mosques and Muslim institutions. (Thanks again to LGF operative kasper.)
    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24018_Dispatches-_Undercover_Mosque&only

    Dispatches - Undercover Mosque (1 to 6)
    UK Channel 4, aired 15th January 2007.
    Radicalisation of UK mosques by Saudi Wahabbism
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=peFQWuk4nuo
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=MuCLC8kjWCI
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=x5t5EqWX92k
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=yMztM0Z7BYE
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=V4Zv3BUmwqs
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=KvjvNScmTQA

    'Obsession'
    Documentary gives insight into radical Islam%u2019s global threat
    http://www.foxnews.com/video2/launchPage.html?110506/110506_fnl_obsession&%27Obsession%27&FNL&Documentary%20gives%20insight%20into%20radical%20Islam%92s%20global%20threat&Foxlife&-1&%27Obsession%27&Video%20Launch%20Page&News
    http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/12min.htm
    http://myspace.com/waragainstthewest
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BL4-mxE87w
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUpcpEQtgp4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BUqXSeCDJc
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    by bluestardad February 5, 2007 8:06 AM PST
    hillaryin08; bushrocks 1, janemcgreevy, liberman18, janemm, jane1234; or what ever handle you are blogging under today. why don't you change the discussion to religion or some other diversion tactic as you will never win the Iraq war one. Put your teeth back in I know you are shocked! Also I would appreciate it if you would bring them with you when you come over next time!
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    by lars008-2009 February 5, 2007 8:07 AM PST
    this is the real threat to humanity.....
    http://stopislam.cjb.net/
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    by hillaryin08 February 5, 2007 8:08 AM PST
    bluestardad

    We may loose your debate but we will win this war.

    Dont jump off any buildings when it happens, the liberals need your tax money.
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    by February 5, 2007 8:11 AM PST
    Hey lars08 or singingrick or whatever name you're going by today, when exactly are you going to go down to your local enlistment center and join up to go and fight the bad muslim folk?

    Or are you just going to keep blowing it out your a*s and let others do the fighting for you?

    ha ha, thought so, you're a bigger coward then GW Bush and Cheney put together.

    What's the matter?

    Yellow streak down your back, brown streak in your pants?
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    by February 5, 2007 8:15 AM PST
    hillaryin08 wrote:

    "We may loose your debate but we will win this war."

    Is spell check really that hard to use or are you just really stupid?

    More than 3000 Americans are dead and Iraq now belongs to Iran thanks to GW Bush.

    GW Bush should be tried for his treachery against the American people.
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    by omnibus66 February 5, 2007 8:26 AM PST
    Looks like singinrick (a.k.a. hillaryin08 ?)is auditioning for a job with the Bush administration. Or maybe he/she already has one. Something to think about.
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    by bluestardad February 5, 2007 8:29 AM PST
    SECURITY PUSH! WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS?
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    by February 5, 2007 8:31 AM PST
    singinrick wrote:

    "Do you miss us that bad? ;)

    Glad to know you're thinkin about me.

    I pray for you every night.

    Have a good day."

    Ha ha, I miss you everyday, singingrick. :-)

    Hope you have a good day as well.
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    by bluestardad February 5, 2007 8:33 AM PST
    This escalation of Iraq combat has not been approved by Congress and the President does not have the right to escalate the war. It is time the Iraqi people took responsibility for their own country. The President%u2019s stated reasons for war with Iraq in the original mandate from congress does not apply and has been proven false on every point, at the cost of 3 American lives a day and two billion tax dollars a week. Congress must act to stop all funds for this war now and bring our troops home. November 7, 2006 was a mandate to stop the war in Iraq and the Culture of Corruption in Washington. What great things could American domestic programs do with two billion dollars a week we are spending in Iraq?
    Billions of Dollars in Job Creation funds have been spent in Iraq and are now requested for Iraq. What elected official either in the House of Representatives or the Senate could with good conscience vote to send Billions of American Tax Dollars to create Jobs and rebuild infrastructure in Iraq while in America coast to coast infrastructure needs repair and the Midwest Rust Belt States have lost millions of Manufacturing Jobs because of unfair trade practices and the political decisions to send jobs to foreign countries? When will our elected officials turn their priorities to support the will of their electorate?
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    by dallison7 February 5, 2007 8:36 AM PST
    SECURITY PUSH! WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS?
    Posted by bluestardad

    Operation: "I'm the DECIDER" is about to begin.
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    by antoniof123 February 5, 2007 8:47 AM PST
    Well, we will add another 21,500 troops to Iraq and then the Republicans will request another 25,000 troops claiming that it will still work. Then in 2008 a Democrat will be President because America will be sick and tired by then. Of course the poor guy or girl who has to get the military out will then be branded by the Republicans as defeatist. Of course by that time this country will be such a mess that we will not care what those fools say anymore.
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    by inventagod February 5, 2007 8:58 AM PST
    Bu$h says "You are all fools! And my defense buddies are now so rich, they could buy America from the Chinese."

    Too late, USA. Fascists rule the land.
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    by ihatebush1 February 5, 2007 9:05 AM PST
    The thousand year civil war cannot be solved by our troops. The Republican talking points about "winning" in Iraq is just talk.

    The only way to fix this mess is for the world to get involved DIPLOMATICALLY along with boots on the ground. The United States cannot "win" this alone.

    How can anyone think that more of our blood and more of our money aimed at a MILITARY victory will change the hearts and minds over there?

    I give our current effort in Iraq an 18% chance of success. There is alomst certain failure. Even if the whole world got involved DIPLOMATICALLY and with troops, I would still only give that about a 50% chance of success.

    That's not being "defeatist" (republican made-up word).

    That's just calling it the way I see it.
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    by heetseeker February 5, 2007 9:10 AM PST
    "Distinguishing Shadow From Substance"

    I am not opposed to US troops being in Iraq. I am a pragmatist. My view is that we have created a prophecy that has fulfilled itself. Therefore under present conditions our presence in Iraq is necessary. Pre-2003, although Saddam was known to compensate the families of Palestinian suicide bombers, Iraq was not the haven for terorist activity and sectarian extremism that it is today.

    Today Iraq is a finishing school and proving ground for the worst of the worst. New techniques are being developed and perfected to create mayhem and madness and our "flowering democracy" is now a failed state. On top of that, far from being an ally in the war on terror, Iraq is now an unwitting exporter of international terrorism.

    Is it at all likely that if we leave Iraq, "they will follow us home." I think it is absolutely plausible (but not certain). Unfortunately, the problem the administration has is that of the little boy who cried wolf. You see, when fear becomes a policy of state and threats of "mushroom clouds", "smoking guns" and "weapons of mass destruction" are revealed as see through-shams, then people become suspicious.

    Sadly, for the administration it is on the fast track of a slippery slope. You see, if people become suspicious, then they raise doubts. If they raise doubts it is because they distrust and if they distrust the war will be lost.
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    by crater7 February 5, 2007 9:15 AM PST
    "BAGHDAG SECURITY PUSH COULD START SOON" HEY! I HAVE AN IDEA, LETS DROP LEAFLETS FROM PLANES AND TELL ALL THE BAD GUYS THAT THE TROOP SURGE IS COMMING, THEY WILL ALL RUN AND HIDE. THE VIOLENCE STOPPED. WALA, WE CAN BRING OUT TROOPS HOME. NO MORE BAD GUYS.
    SIMPLE, AND THEY SAID THERE WAS NO NEW PLANS.
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    by panhandlpete February 5, 2007 9:24 AM PST
    America has been put "on sale" to the highest bidder. The public does not know who owns our ports as the DUBAI deal was quietly withdrawn from the news. Our airlines were offered for sale. Many cities/states offered toll roads for sale. The fast-track trade policy that GWB wants reinstated will help him move forward with the American Trade Union that eliminates the north and southern borders. (So why the big push/fight over illegal immigrats to get amnesty.....just a way of diverting attention until he gets all the plans in place for the ATU.)

    Can you imagine how much damage he can do during the next two years if Congress grants him line item veto, like he asked in his speech?

    The WAR is foremost on people's minds, but forces are at work here at home (boardrooms, committees, organizations) which have plans to drastically change our way of life.

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    by heetseeker February 5, 2007 9:25 AM PST
    crater7

    The simplest ideas are always the best.

    I am not a military officer, but surely, any successful military or intelligence led action must rely on the element of surprise? To launch what is in effect a promotional trailer for our Baghdad offensive strikes me as unwise in the extreme. My view is that it will be as Fallujah, where we telegraphed the operation and allowed hundreds perhaps even thousands of insurgents to relocate to safe areas, to live to fight another day.

    Spare a thought for our military leaders though. War is rarely a purely military affair. Politicians need to be seen to be "in control" and "doing something." Hence the set-piece production "New Way Forward."

    Some die-hards will stay in Iraq and duke it out with us and be anihilated. But sadly, the net effect of the troop surge in Baghdad will be utterly meaningless. Most will live to fight another day.

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    by lars008-2009 February 5, 2007 9:25 AM PST
    ISLAM IS A VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW!

    ISLAM PRACTICES SLAVERY OF NON MUSLIMS
    ISLAM PRACTICES APARTHIED OF NON MUSLIMS
    ISLAM PRACTICES RAPE OF NON MUSLIMS
    ISLAM PRACTICES GENOCIDE OF NON MUSLIMS

    ALL ARE VIOLATIONS OF INTERNATIONAL LAW AND ARE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY
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    by frankly6 February 5, 2007 10:06 AM PST


    lars08

    Extremists on both sides want to turn this whole mess into a religious war while the rest of us just want to live in peace and raise our families. If you want to kill Muslims you should just shut up, sign up, and go to Iraq.

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    by jimfinster February 5, 2007 10:17 AM PST
    I second that motion.

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    by j-whitman February 5, 2007 1:45 PM PST
    Badax,,, When has Bush ever been right ???? --NEVER,, -- THIS TIME IT'S KILLING OUR TROOPS & DISHONERING AMERICAN VOTERS
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    by j-whitman February 5, 2007 1:47 PM PST
    DISHONORING OUR TROOPS -- FOR BUSH'S POLITICAL GAIN
    DISHONORING AMERICA -- FOR BUSH'S POLITICAL GAIN
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    by j-whitman February 5, 2007 1:51 PM PST
    Bush now think's this is WW2 & he is Truman - LOL

    TRUMAN WON WW2 IN LESS TIME, PAID FOR THE WAR WITH TAXES, PROSICUTED WAR PROFITEERS, & ACTUALLY KEPT HIS ALLIES ------- BUSH IS NO TRUMAN

    ------- THIS IS NOT WW2 -------------
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    by tibu987 February 5, 2007 2:33 PM PST
    "Civilization will not attain to its perfection until the last stone from the last church falls on the last priest." %u2014 Imile Zola
    -
    Yes, religion, all religions, has caused more turmoil and death in this world than anything else.
    Education is the answer. But, that solution is milleniums away.
    'Nuff said.
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    by lars008-2009 February 5, 2007 5:06 PM PST
    you'll get your chance to kill muslims alright.............. or be killed by them.....

    the real fascist nazi's of today are the fascist nazi islamic muslims.....

    'Obsession'
    Documentary gives insight into radical Islam's global threat
    http://www.foxnews.com/video2/launchPa

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    http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/12min.htm
    http://myspace.com/waragainstthewest
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BL4-mxE87w
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUpcpEQtgp4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BUqXSeCDJc

    UK TV AIRS SHOCK 'UNDERCOVER' LOOK INTO MAINSTREAM BRIT MOSQUES...
    Dispatches: Undercover Mosque
    This is part one of the much-anticipated UK Channel 4 documentary Dispatches: Undercover Mosque, exposing evidence of Islamic supremacism, shocking misogyny, and support for violence at a number of Britain%u2019s leading mosques and Muslim institutions. (Thanks again to LGF operative kasper.)
    http://littlegreenfootballs.co
    m/weblog/?entry=24018_Dispatches-_Underc
    over_Mosque&only
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    by bluestardad February 5, 2007 5:24 PM PST
    Does anyone know what has been going on for the last 4 years?
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    by hillaryin08 February 6, 2007 2:00 AM PST
    Time to put the democrats on suicide watch again
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    by February 6, 2007 3:38 AM PST
    wake up, you where lied to about Iraq
    why can't you see that ?

    and Iran is next

    just like the lies and propaganda about Iraq, spread by the same mainstream news media channels like here on the CBS.


    If you are here for news and to be informed, do realize you where lied to about Iraq, just like you are being lied to about Iran. If you are an American citizen, do realize the massive debt you will be taking on again when they go to war with Iran.

    here are some links, copy and paste them and have a read.
    this guys where bang on accurate on reporting pre invasion of Iraq, and they will prove themselves again on Iran.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=PIL20070205&articleId=4689

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=SYM20070205&articleId=4690

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=home



    Article her by Colonel Sam Gardiner
    http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/17/143241

    Scott Ritter on Target Iran: The Truth About the White House%u2019s Plans for Regime Change
    http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/16/144204&mode=thread&tid=25


    Retired Colonel Sam Gardiner on Iran War Plans
    http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/17/143241

    here is a list of journalist worth reading

    Robert Fisk, Jonathan Cook, Richard Bulliet, Michel Chossudovsky, Patrick Seale, Paul Craig Roberts, Paul J. Balles, Mark Weisbrot,
    John Pilger, Juan Cole


    peace
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    by February 6, 2007 3:47 AM PST
    Hey lars008


    don't you get it ?

    You post a link to Fox News as your source, is that because they did such a fantastic job of lying the american public into invading Iraq.

    yet you trust them now

    blind faith only means you can't see

    have a look at the links I put in my earlier post. if you want to come back and post, calling me names and stuff. Save your time, if you want to come back and post why the info sources I sent are no good, I'd love to here it.

    same to you Fartknocker2
    last time you suggested I do some reading, as the news you where supporting was all over every major media outlet. Which I was well aware of, but I unlike you, I am also well aware these same so called major media outlets, where the ones who sucked america into invading Iraq

    peace and wake up
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    by obiquital February 6, 2007 4:43 PM PST
    "I suspect it is simply for domination of the oil reserves. One thing for sure, we did not go there to fight terrorists, the terrorists weren't there until we took down the government

    Posted by dallison7"

    1) Canada has more oil reserves than Iraq has. Canada is #2, Iraq is #4.

    2) Terrorists have been active in Iraq since 2001 and even prior to that to a lesser extent. Since we took down the government in 2003. So, there were terrorists there before we took down the government.
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