BAGHDAD, Feb. 3, 2007

Baghdad Bomb Kills 121, Wounds Hundreds

Suicide Truck Bomber Hits Iraqi Market With 1 Ton Of Explosives

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    • A woman passes by a car destroyed in a car bomb blast in the ethnically-mixed city of Kirkuk, 180 miles north of Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, Feb. 3, 2007. Several car bombs struck the oil-rich Kirkuk in a two-hour span on Saturday, killing at least two people and wounding 40, police said. Photo

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(CBS/AP)  A suicide truck bomber struck a market in a predominantly Shiite area of Baghdad on Saturday, killing as many as 121 people among the crowd buying food for evening meals, one of the most devastating attacks in the capital since the war started.

The attacker was driving a truck carrying foodstuffs including oil and flour when he detonated a ton of explosives, destroying stores and stalls in the busy outdoor Sadriyah market, police said.

The late-afternoon explosion was the latest in a series of attacks against mainly Shiite commercial targets in the capital. No group claimed responsibility, but it appeared to be part of a bid by Sunni insurgents to provoke retaliatory violence and kill as many people as possible ahead of a planned U.S.-Iraqi security sweep.

Many of the injured from the market blast were driven to overwhelmed hospitals in pickup trucks and angry young men lifted bodies onto stretchers. The Kindi hospital, Baghdad's main emergency facility, quickly filled had to start refusing patients, asking ambulances to take them elsewhere.

"It was a strong blow. A car exploded. I fell on the ground," said one young man with a bandaged head, his face still streaked with blood.

Police and hospital officials said at least 121 people were killed and 226 wounded. The Health Ministry put the figure at 105 killed and 331 wounded.

Maj. Gen. Jihad al-Jabiri of the Interior Ministry told state television the truck was carrying a ton of explosives and destroyed 10 buildings.

"It was a suicide attacker who entered the market at a time when it was packed with people," al-Jabiri said. "There are still bodies under the rubble."

He said checkpoints at the market's entrance failed to stop the truck and called on the government to deport foreign Arabs, saying recent attacks have been carried out by suicide bombers.

U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad called the bombing "horrific" and said it was "an example of what the forces of evil will do to intimidate the Iraqi people... To those who commit these heinous crimes we send this message: You will be relentlessly hunted until you are apprehended and brought to justice."

The bombing hit at a particularly inopportune time for the Bush administration's latest attempt to crush violence in the capital and just days before American and Iraqi forces were expected to start an all-out assault on Sunni and Shiite gunmen and bombers.

The blast was the deadliest attack in the capital since Nov. 23, when suspected al Qaeda in Iraq fighters attacked the capital's Sadr City Shiite slum with a series of car bombs and mortars that struck in quick succession, killing at least 215 people.

A suicide bomber also crashed his car into the Bab al-Sharqi market, near Sadriyah, on Jan. 22, killing 88 people.

South of Baghdad, a pair of suicide bombers detonated explosives Thursday among shoppers in a crowded outdoor market in the Shiite city of Hillah, killing at least 73 people and wounding 163, police said.

In other developments:

  • Two soldiers assigned to Multi-National Force — West died Friday from wounds sustained due to enemy action in Anbar province, a vast insurgent stronghold west of Baghdad, according to a military statement.

  • A roadside bomb killed two Multi-National Division — Baghdad soldiers Friday south of Baghdad, the military said, adding that the unit was investigating battle positions in the area when the attack occurred.

  • A 13th Sustainment Command (Expeditionary) soldier died Friday of an apparent cardiac arrest after conducting physical training, the military said. It said the incident was not related to combat and was under investigation.

  • At least 13 U.S. troops have died in the first three days of February and at least 3,097 service members have lost their lives since the Iraq war started in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

  • A U.S. Army helicopter crashed Friday in a hail of gunfire north of Baghdad, police and witnesses said — the fourth lost in Iraq in the last two weeks. The U.S. command said two crew members were killed, and the top U.S. general conceded that insurgent ground fire has become more effective. An al Qaeda-affiliated group claimed responsibility and said its fighters had "new ways" to attack American planes.

  • Mortars slammed into several predominantly Sunni areas in Baghdad, killing at least two people and wounding nearly 20, police said.

  • The U.S. command said 18 insurgents were killed in fighting Thursday night and Friday after insurgents opened fire on the Americans from several positions in Ramadi, 70 miles west of Baghdad. No civilian or U.S. casualties were reported, the military said.

  • Also in Anbar, gunmen assassinated the Sunni chairman of the Fallujah City Council, Abbas Ali Hussein, an outspoken critic of al Qaeda. He was the third council chairman assassinated in Fallujah this year as insurgents target Sunnis willing to cooperate with the U.S. and its Iraqi partners.

  • Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki met Friday with U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad and the outgoing U.S. commander in Baghdad, Gen. George Casey, to discuss a planned major military operation against armed groups in Baghdad, state television said. It gave no further details.

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    by karlimhof February 3, 2007 7:26 AM EST
    Let's make a calculation;

    1 hail of bullets = $ 100
    1 Blackhawk bird = $ 6'000'000

    +
    2 priceless american lives apparently no enemy dead.

    Does anybody believe this is "win-able" ?
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    by karlimhof February 3, 2007 7:33 AM EST
    Updated: 9:18 p.m. ET Feb. 2, 2007
    LAUSANNE, Switzerland - A ruling by Switzerland%u2019s highest court released Friday has opened up the possibility that people with serious mental illnesses could be helped by doctors to take their own lives.

    I'll split the cost with anyone else for Bush/Cheney travel arranements to Switzerland. Are we on?
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    by dallison7 February 3, 2007 7:40 AM EST
    I'll split the cost with anyone else for Bush/Cheney travel arranements to Switzerland. Are we on?
    Posted by karlimhof

    I'm in.
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    by acauble1 February 3, 2007 7:47 AM EST
    There are people who still scream for the "good news" in Iraq, "...where's the coverage of the good things going on in Iraq."

    Clearly, somewhere there may be a classroom full of teen-aged girls going to school for the first time in their lives, but WHOOPDI-F'ING-DOO!

    I suspect that there's absolutely no bit of "good news" that can outweigh the death of even ONE American, let alone two!

    Why the f'ck did we go to Iraq?

    Why?!
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    by heetseeker February 3, 2007 8:13 AM EST
    acauble1

    The good news point is valid. But there are two key points here. Firstly, good news in a time of war, does not sell newspapers or attract interest. Filing stories about children going to school or kilometeres of road being resurfaced, when helicopters are being shot out of the sky, probaly does not make "good news sense."

    I think the other key point is that to report such stories when Iraq is (if you believe the National Intelligence Estimate) exhibiting characterstics of civil war, is to bury your head in the sand on a grand scale. The reality of Iraq is that the country is in a state of near or actual chaos. Do not believe me, look at the statistics (30,000 killed in sectarian violence in the last year). By any other definition that would amount to a civil war.

    In part, the reason why the situation in Iraq is so "dire" (not my word, see General Petraeus' testimony before the Senate) is that the administration has sought to deny the reality and deceive the nation. Even senior administration officials (most notably the V.P) prefer to dismiss rather than discuss verifiable facts and data.

    Personally, I am not concerned with reporting the "news", I am much more concerned with reporting the truth.
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    by acauble1 February 3, 2007 8:46 AM EST
    The latest 'NIE' report is depressing for me. The majority of Americans believe the report, as do I, but it's too bad the leaders in the White House completely dismiss reports like these again and again. Earlier in the war I just wanted to believe they were doing so to 'save face', but now it's clear that they are simply practicing outright deception. (And millions still buy it).

    The reports from Iraq are continuing to get worse. I'm just about ready to shut off all the current events in the world and just follow American Idol and ONLY American Idol, (like so many blissfully ignorant Americans do).

    I agree the fact that 'good news' doesn't sell papers, which reminds me of a popular saying in the news media: "If it bleeds, it leads."

    I too am concerned with reporting the truth. I only hope that the truth will eventually lead to a better solution for Iraq in the next presidential administration. I've written off any hope with our current administration.

    At this point, I just pray that the Bush Administration doesn't start another war with a much more powerful foe: IRAN!

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    by migrainegram February 3, 2007 9:08 AM EST
    I'll split the cost with anyone else for Bush/Cheney travel arranements to Switzerland. Are we on?
    Posted by karlimhof at 04:33 AM : Feb 03, 2007


    Absolutely!
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    by bluestardad February 3, 2007 9:08 AM EST
    More cost for American families while politicians talk and do nothing!
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    by dallison7 February 3, 2007 9:27 AM EST
    At this point, I just pray that the Bush Administration doesn't start another war with a much more powerful foe: IRAN!


    Posted by acauble1 at 05:46 AM


    They're working on it.
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    by love_you-2009 February 3, 2007 9:54 AM EST
    @acauble1

    kids went to school before too!!

    Iraq in 1990 was one of the strongest and most powerful countries in the middle east.



    Also do american people only "SPEAK"

    If you don't like mr. bush why you not go outside and protest!!

    Instead just " why we in iraq" , "bring back our tropops" etc..

    I gues you only thing you can do is only Blah blah blah!!

    you have no power !
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    by itchyb-2009 February 3, 2007 10:05 AM EST
    The reason the "good news" is not reported is because there is really very little "good news". Water supply, electrical supply, oil revenues, the exodus of those able to get out of this country. The Universities are vapid shells of their former selves. I have no doubt that there are good american soldiers and others handing out candy bars and dedicated govt. and contractor folks who are trying to do the best they can. But what about Haliburtin, KRB, Parsons, the numerous "private security" companies that are raking in millions? Why would they want this war, a goldmine, to ever end? Bush and his toadies (or rather Cheney and his toadies) created this nightmare, and will walk away with their pockets full, leaving the next administration, unless something extrordinary happens in the legislative branch, with the duty of extricating us from a lose/lose situation.
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    by karlimhof February 3, 2007 11:35 AM EST
    Hadley, Bushes "in-security advisor" talked about this NIE report saying "we can't just call this civil war, there are other complex factors which must be taken into account so that the American people understand - we can't just leave "a one line explaination" - he didn't give any of the complex factors.

    Well, one-liners have been good enough till now from Bush, we don't have to repeat them all, do we?

    The point I'm trying to make is Bush is still refusing to accept professional advice from our national intel agencies. Bush also sent back the section on Iran!
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    by panhandlpete February 3, 2007 11:41 AM EST
    The three (declassified) pages of the 80 page NIE report released yesterday said that the IRAQ situation was grim with little, if any, chance of success. GWB had this info prior to the "surge", so why did he continue to dig deeper?

    He DICTATES that this 'plan' may be successful in turning things around, but reserves the exit option by saying he cannot guarantee that it will do so. First off, it was supposed to show results within a 30 day period (that was before troops were sent), next came 40 to 60 days, and yesterday it was as much as 18 months.

    Many more dead American soldiers, many more wounded (and Iraqis, too) and $245 BILLION dollars from US taxpayers is needed for this war through 2008. BUT, only $90 billion asked for 2009 in the budget plan. WHY?? This war will be declared victorious and will end in 2008, but one or more permanent bases will be established, and it will cost US taxpayers the $90 B to operate them.... annually forever......just a probability prediction!
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    by bluestardad February 3, 2007 12:42 PM EST
    Love_you; You are correct most Americans feel helpless and therefore will not go out and protest as in the end the government will do what it wants anyway dispite the will of the people!
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    by inventagod February 3, 2007 1:35 PM EST
    What do I think?

    The three most contentious news stories do not have a place for comments. Bombs in Baghdad are old news. Sad, but it will continue as long as there are news services.
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    by firststate February 3, 2007 2:23 PM EST
    It's good to see that al-Maliki's government is starting to control the situation.

    It's not just a civil war the complex factors make it a civil war and even more, so it's worse than a civil war. The Iranians aren't a much of a problem.

    Remember that this stuff is the portions that most support the administrations decisions. They are still picking through the intel and acting upon only the portions that could lead to their pre-determined actions. Cherry picking the intel to support their decisions instead of making their decisions based upon the information the intel provides is their continuing problem. These guys are determined to remain the bass ackwards boys. Their stupidity would be funny if it weren't killing so many people and financing their adventure with money borrowed against our children's and grandchildren's futures.
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    by feelfree1 February 3, 2007 2:32 PM EST
    From 'Negroponte and the escalation of death'

    www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IA11Ak03.html

    "McConnell may well be able to carry a louder tune for his pal Cheney, which may come in the form of a sonata of manufactured intelligence to justify an attack on Iran, which is important as time is growing short for Cheney and company."

    "It is Negroponte who oversaw the implementation of the "Salvador Option" in Iraq, as it was referred to in Newsweek in January 2005."

    "Under the "Salvador Option", Negroponte had assistance from his colleague from his days in Central America during the 1980s, retired Colonel James Steele. Steel, whose title in Baghdad was counselor for Iraqi security forces, supervised the selection and training of members of the Badr Organization and Mehdi Army, the two largest Shi'ite militias in Iraq, to target the leadership and support networks of a primarily Sunni resistance."

    "Planned or not, these death squads promptly spiraled out of control to become the leading cause of death in Iraq. Intentional or not, the scores of tortured, mutilated bodies that turn up on the streets of Baghdad each day are generated by the death squads whose impetus was Negroponte. And it is this US-backed sectarian violence that largely led to the hell-disaster that Iraq is today."
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    by frankly6 February 3, 2007 2:42 PM EST


    This war is a Republican debacle and will rightly remove more of these arrogant, incompetent fools from office in 2008.

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    by heyitsme_76 February 3, 2007 2:59 PM EST
    Hmmm.. I guess this is what *** Cheney meant when he said Iraq war is an 'enormous success'
    Hey, ***.. I think its tiem for you get a brain transplant.. ;)
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    by feelfree1 February 3, 2007 3:22 PM EST
    Who bennefits from a weakened, destabilized Iraq?

    - war profiteers

    - the Bush regime

    - the extremist ideologues of Israel

    What will be the Amero/Israeli "solution" to the choas in Iraq?

    - Bomb Iran
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    by lars008-2009 February 3, 2007 3:39 PM EST
    muslims killing civilians

    nothing new about that.......

    they have been doing that for over 1300 years.....

    so it is time we put the blame where it belongs..... on the muslims themselves....
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    by tuckerndfw February 3, 2007 3:40 PM EST
    The US & GB invaded & are occupying Iraq for the primary purpose of controlling their oil & gas. The US & GB intend to threaten Iran for the primary purpose of controlling Iran's oil & gas supplies.

    If Iran does not cater to US & GB oil companies, the US & GB will attack Iran for the primary purpose of gaining control of Iran's oil & gas fields.

    These simple truths are self evidenct.

    Anyone who believes the *** about "freedom" and "democracy," or defending a bunch of lunatics and gangsters in Israel, is a moron.

    The US & GB use Israel as an excuse to threaten oil producing nations. And, to launder money in the form of taxpayer "gifts" to the gangsters in Israel's government.

    Oil companies should be nationalized and Israel should be nuked.

    It really is amazing how many otherwise intelligent, educated people are imbeciles when it comes to activities by their own governments.
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    by sharncedar February 3, 2007 3:47 PM EST
    "The US & GB invaded & are occupying Iraq for the primary purpose of controlling their oil & gas. "

    Ok, that is not a problem. America was invaded and occupied to control its vast resources, by .... you and your ancestors.

    What is a problem is incompetence and failure. The same failure in Southern California, where we are losing those vast resources to the plague of vermin from the dark lands below, is the same failure in Iraq, a failure of vision and execution of detail.

    Morals matter, but only in the sense that they contribute to success. For example, there is the choice between tolerance and indignation, both can be presented as a moral position. But only one is successful in a given situation, sometimes its tolerance and sometimes indignation and xenophobia. The Chinese are using xenophobia very effectively right now, and using tolerance ver well, at least tolerance of anyone giving them lots of money. Xenophobia for those asking for money. These morals work for them, and they are getting rich.

    America has hatred and divisiveness, a kind of intolerance, within itself where it is very damaging, and yet has infinite tolerance of a foreign invader like the Hispanics. That is failure.

    So don't tell me its immoral to grab oil. The mistake wasn't that, it was the other immorality, which was to fail to unify the American people behind the effort.

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    by exusmcsgt February 3, 2007 3:48 PM EST
    If Iran does not cater to US & GB oil companies, the US & GB will attack Iran for the primary purpose of gaining control of Iran's oil & gas fields.

    These simple truths are self evidenct.

    Posted by tuckerndfw at 12:40 PM : Feb 03, 2007

    Ain't gonna happen, tucker. I'll tell you why. All we have at our disposal to invade Iran are Air Forces, Naval forces and nuclear weapons.

    Iran's nuclear facilities are underground and virtually impervious to nuclear weapons, so it stands to reason that conventional air drop weapons will not have an impact.

    We could attack their infrastructure with Air and naval forces, but that's about it.

    Naval forces will not invade. Air Forces will not invade, and the forces who could invade are mired in Iraq.

    Who's gonna invade, Superman?
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    by tuckerndfw February 3, 2007 3:55 PM EST
    If Iran does not cater to US & GB oil companies, the US will implement a military draft. All it will take is for one US ship to be blown up by "Iranian terrorists" and the hysterical mob will be lining up in droves to support the draft so we can murder the "evil, Godless Iranian terrorists."

    You may believe it won't happen, but I would have never thought the US would be foolish enough to invade Iraq or Afghanistan.

    The US will attack any nation that does not cater to US oil companies. It is only a matter of time until the US invades Venezuela if the CIA is unsuccessful in their attempts to overthrow or assassinate Chavez.

    The US may use proxies, as we tend to do, but US oil companies will not be denied. Same for GB.

    The hysterical mob (90% of people) do not rely on facts, they rely on jingoism. As evidenced by the events following 9/11/01.
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    by frankly6 February 3, 2007 3:59 PM EST
    lars008

    The blame belongs to you and people like you who make excuses for Bush and co.

    We had no business invading Iraq. They had nothing to do with 9/11 and did not pose a threat to us. Bush and co. were warned repeatedly that invasion and occupation would spark a sectarian civil war that would spiral out of control and that's exactly what has happened.

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    by tuckerndfw February 3, 2007 4:02 PM EST
    SharnCedar,

    Civilized people barter and offer goods in exchange.

    Savage barbarians use force to take what does not belong to them.

    Invading other nations to steal their resources is not only immoral, it is criminal under all known laws by which the US & GB claim to operate.

    Oil is not necessary for survival, it is a luxury and is primarily used for comfort, convenience, or pleasure.

    And, those same "dark people" to which you refer are the same people who have the more legitimate claim to American resources (North, Central & South).

    It appears "white people" (Anglo-Saxons) like to talk about "morality" and "laws," but only if they aren't required to obey them.

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    by lars008-2009 February 3, 2007 4:06 PM EST
    ISLAM IS A VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW!

    ISLAM PRACTICES SLAVERY OF NON MUSLIMS
    ISLAM PRACTICES APARTHIED OF NON MUSLIMS
    ISLAM PRACTICES RAPE OF NON MUSLIMS
    ISLAM PRACTICES GENOCIDE OF NON MUSLIMS

    ALL ARE VIOLATIONS OF INTERNATIONAL LAW AND ARE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY
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    by tuckerndfw February 3, 2007 4:12 PM EST
    Lars, have you considered psychiatric help?

    It's obvious you have an obsessive-compulsive disorder that compels you to make a public fool of yourself.

    It also appears you are paranoid & delusional. That can be fatal to not only you (no great loss), but to those around you. Many of the people we read about in the paper are paranoid-delusional.

    They tend to murder their families, friends and/or co-workers in all kinds of gruesome ways.

    Seek help before it is too late.
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    by lars008-2009 February 3, 2007 4:16 PM EST
    rightttttttttttttt haji.....

    trying to justify islam raping, enslaving, killing and aparthied laws against non muslims are we haji?????
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    by rafterman1 February 3, 2007 4:17 PM EST
    "ISLAM IS A VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW!"

    That's funny. You all don't care when we break international law by invading countries on false pretenses. Or when we break international law by, as an occupier, not providing adequate security for the country. Now, suddenly, international law is all great and everything?

    I guess not much different with you righties and the UN. You righties would disband the UN in an instant. But when invading Iraq, all you talked about was how Iraq was ignoring UN resolutions. Like suddenly the UN was the best thing ever.

    You can't have it both ways. You can't have the UN and international law apply to everyone else but not us.
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    by lars008-2009 February 3, 2007 4:20 PM EST
    this is just the contenuation of the first gulf war, iraq broke the ceasefire agreement, nothing illegal about it......
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    by tuckerndfw February 3, 2007 4:29 PM EST
    Iraq did not have any agreements with the US or any other nation. Iraq had an agreement with the UN. And, the UN did not authorize use of force against Iraq.

    Claiming the US & GB had UN approval is an outright lie first told by George Bush and repeated by his idiot supporters.

    *Kofi Annan told the BBC that the UN did not approve the invasion & it was illegal under international law.

    Bozo Bush's supporters are either ignorant or liars, usually both.

    ===================


    *Thursday, 16 September, 2004, 09:21 GMT 10:21 UK

    "The United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan has told the BBC the US-led invasion of Iraq was an illegal act that contravened the UN charter."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3661134.stm
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    by hollyt2-2009 February 3, 2007 4:31 PM EST
    get over the oil and gas thing. we are at war and way past that. there is so much civil unrest right here in America. We are triing to make things right in the Mideast when really we should be triing to do what is best for the AMERICAN people right here. We are losing control. We need to UNITE.
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    by tuckerndfw February 3, 2007 4:38 PM EST
    Holly,

    We are at "war" BECAUSE of the "oil & gas thing."

    The only way we are going to "get over it" is by indicting those resposnible for the unlawful invasion & occupation of Iraq. After which, they can be sued to recover the costs on behalf of the taxpayers.

    US taxpayers are on the hook for about one trillion dollars for that fiasco while ExxonMobil & British Petroleum (et al) executives are reaping literal fortunes.

    It is time to tax them 100% on their unearned & undeserved gains so we can move forward and "get over it."

    I cannot imagine how any American taxpayer can sit still while war profiteers are looting the US Treasury AND raping consumers at the pump (and everywhere else that uses oil).

    Until George Bush and his fellow war profiteering thugs are brought to trial, no one should be resting or "getting over it."
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    by hollyt2-2009 February 3, 2007 4:40 PM EST


    PRESIDENTIAL IQ'S
    The study determined the following IQs of each president as accurate to
    within five percentage points. In order by presidential term:

    Franklin Delano Roosevelt [D] 142,

    Harry S Truman [D] 132,

    Dwight David Eisenhower [R] 122

    &n bsp; John Fitzgerald Kennedy [D] 174,

    Lyndon Baines Johnson [D] 126,

    Richard Milhous Nixon [R] 155,

    Gerald R. Ford [R] 121,

    James Earle Carter [D] 175,

    Ronald Wilson Reagan [R] 105

    George Herbert Walker Bush [R] 98,

    William Jefferson Clinton [D] 182,

    George Walker Bush [R] 91


    In order of IQ rating:
    182 . William Jefferson Clinton [D]

    175 . . James Earle Carter [D]

    174 . . John Fitzgerald Kennedy [D]

    155 . . Richard Milhous Nixon [R]

    147 . . Franklin Delano Roosevelt [D]

    132 . . Harry S Truman [D]

    126 . . Lyndon Baines Johnson [D]

    122 . . Dwight David Eisenhower [R]

    121 . . Gerald R. Ford [R]

    105 . . Ronald Wilson Reagan [R]

    098 . . George Herbert Walker Bush [R]

    091 . . George Walker Bush [R]

    .The smartest president didn't know enough to keep his pants zipped and the
    dumbest one thinks he can run a war.
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    by hollyt2-2009 February 3, 2007 4:41 PM EST
    Not anymore.Now I believe it just to save face from the rest of the world
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    by lars008-2009 February 3, 2007 4:41 PM EST
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    kofi annan has proved himself to be not believable on anything............lol

    same for his son.......

    and as for bbc............

    BBC OUTED AS PROPOGANDA RAG!!!

    BBC admits: We are biased on religion and politics
    Internal corporation memo on %u2018impartiality%u2019 summit leaked to British media exposes truth on BBC bias
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3318582,00.html

    The Gulf War ended when Iraq formally accepted all coalition terms for a permanent ceasefire on March 3, 1991. Although elimination of all Iraqi weapons of mass destruction facilities was an integral part of the ceasefire agreement, Saddam Hussein continued after the war to enlarge such facilities and to disguise this effort from U.N. inspectors. Now, on the tenth anniversary of this important agreement, the international community allows Iraq to complete work on chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.
    http://www.tzemach.org/fyi/docs/beres/iraq1.htm
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    by j-whitman February 3, 2007 4:48 PM EST
    Relax folks -- It's just, LIBERATION JUBILATION
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    by j-whitman February 3, 2007 4:51 PM EST
    Lars,,, The conservitave DRUDGE REPORT still fails to mention the NIE,,,, Media Bias you think??
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    by feelfree1 February 3, 2007 4:52 PM EST
    tuckerndfw,

    Re: "The US & GB invaded & are occupying Iraq for the primary purpose of controlling their oil & gas."

    If there is one thing that I have to give the Bush regime credit for, it is in their ability to stack the deck. If they can't get cheap, plentiful petroleum out of Iraq, no problem- the resulting high crude prices translate to stunning record profits for the oil barons.

    Even if the oil plans don't work out, hey, at least they have a brand new mega-embassy and 14 permanent military bases. If those get blown up, oh well- at least they were able to funnel hundreds of billions of U.S. tax dollars into the coffers of their cronies.

    Maybe they install a compliant puppet, like Chalabi, to rule Iraq? After all, it worked out so far in Afghanistan, where former UNOCAL executive Hamid Karzai rules as the "mayor of Kabul".

    If a compliant puppet is not possible, fomenting chaos is a nice fallback position. Factional in-fighting leads to population reduction, brain drain, and a provides a great excuse to blame the %u201Cuncivilized%u201D Iraqis for their own suffering. Also, if the Iraqi people are divided and weak, then they can't focus on a concerted defense plan against Israel.

    The oligarchs are playing for all of the marbles, and even when they appear to have failed, they still seem to find a way to grab a few.
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    by tuckerndfw February 3, 2007 4:53 PM EST
    Lars, no nation, including the US or GB, have the lawful authority to unilaterally interpret or enforce UN resolutions.

    Whether the BBC is a propaganda rag or not is irrelevant.

    The UN did not authorize the invasion of Iraq.

    That is an absolute fact.

    Only a court can decide whether it was lawful, but we will have to wait for the war crimes trials so that can be determined.
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    by exusmcsgt February 3, 2007 4:54 PM EST
    If Iran does not cater to US & GB oil companies, the US will implement a military draft. All it will take is for one US ship to be blown up by "Iranian terrorists" and the hysterical mob will be lining up in droves to support the draft .....
    Posted by tuckerndfw at 12:55 PM : Feb 03, 2007

    Even with a draft, it would take the U.S. at least 3 years to build an army and Marine Corps that would have the wherewithall to invade Iran on top of what's on their plate now.

    Building an army is more than putting civilians in uniform, Tucker.
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    by mbievtea February 3, 2007 4:55 PM EST
    JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE PATHETIC, SAD, FACIST STATE THAT IS ISLAM!!!!!!
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    by j-whitman February 3, 2007 4:56 PM EST
    I saw No - NIE articles
    2 Clinton article
    1 article about Dutch Naked Sunday
    1 on a man arrested for cussing
    NONE ON THE NIE -- CONSERVATIVE DRUDGE REPORT THINK IT'S BIAS ??
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    by feelfree1 February 3, 2007 4:57 PM EST
    tuckerndfw,

    Re: "The only way we are going to "get over it" is by indicting those resposnible for the unlawful invasion & occupation of Iraq. After which, they can be sued to recover the costs on behalf of the taxpayers."

    I could not agree more with this assessment!
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    by tuckerndfw February 3, 2007 4:58 PM EST
    Feelfree,

    we agree for the most part.

    But, from my viewpoint, it appears the chaos is intended. The oil barons have no intention of allowing a unity government representing the people to be established.

    They ("we") are allowing the situation to get totally out of hand so we can justify the next Saddam Hussein when he establishes a brutal dictatorship over the Iraqi people.

    The oil and gas must be controlled by a dictator. And, oil companies reap enormous profits by fomenting instability in the Middle East.

    The game is far more sinister than it may appear on the surface.

    My opinion is based on the history of "big oil" and US (and UK) involvement with "big oil" and the Middle East. The US & UK will support any dictator, the more brutal, the better, that caters to US & UK oil companies.

    That is a historical, indisputable fact.
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    by exusmcsgt February 3, 2007 5:00 PM EST
    "The US & GB invaded & are occupying Iraq for the primary purpose of controlling their oil & gas."

    The invasion of Iraq was about bases - permanent American bases, 4 of them, to be built in Iraq to project American power in the middle east.

    Oil was a concern, no doubt, but the invasion was about the bases. One on the western border to threaten syria, one on the eastern border to threaten Iran, one on the southern border to protect Saudi Arabia, and one on the northern border to protect Kurdistan.

    Congress pulled the plug on the funding this last October for the bases as they accepted that the instability in Iraq would never allow for their existence.

    The neocons knew they could never sell the invasion on the justification of wanting bases, so the WMD lie was cooked up.
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    by j-whitman February 3, 2007 5:00 PM EST
    Exusmc ,,, This should **** of Bushies,, Evangelist leaders busted in Miami smuggling $56,000 cash by customs -- Stealing money from Brazilians.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16953462/
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    by exusmcsgt February 3, 2007 5:03 PM EST
    But, from my viewpoint, it appears the chaos is intended. The oil barons have no intention of allowing a unity government representing the people to be established.

    Posted by tuckerndfw at 01:58 PM : Feb 03, 2007

    Here's the hole in your theory: Big oil BENEFITS from a stable government that will honor agreements. Big oil does not benefit from chaos which results in their investment being blown up every week by guerillas. Think about it man.

    The chaos was unanticipated by Bush/Cheney/Rice because of their downright ignorance of the people and their ignorance of history. Plain and simple.
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