Internet Spreading Dangerous Ideology?
In Wake Of U.K. Terror Raids, Internet Fostering New Distrust Between Generations Of Muslims
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Play CBS Video Video Radicalizing Britain's Youth CBS News RAW: Shabir Hussain, an Imam in Birmingham, U.K., tells Steve Berriman how the Internet facilitates the spread of Muslim extremism among local youth.
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Video Homegrown Terror In Britain British Muslims believe constant terror raids on their community are too much. But police say radical Islamists, not to be confused with moderate Muslims, are a real threat. Elizabeth Palmer reports.
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Video British Police Thwart Terror Police made 9 arrests in Birmingham, England - all of them tied to an alleged terror plot to kidnap and kill a British soldier and show the murder on the Web. Mark Phillips reports.
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The terror raids in Birmingham Wednesday have prompted much anger among the area’s Asian community. But they have also made local mosque leaders question the source of the rise in Islamic fundamentalism among Britain’s young Muslims.
Shabir Hussain, the imam of a mosque near one of the homes stormed by anti-terror police, believes that the dangerous ideology of radical Islam is coming not from a small number of imams sowing anti-western sentiment at secret meetings, but from the Internet.
"The children are not learning from the mosques, not learning from the parents,” he said. “Young kids, they see the news and see the Internet. They think, ‘something's happening in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Palestine, in Kashmir, and Muslims are oppressed everywhere and some injustice is happening in the world.’”
The personal — and some might say secretive — nature of Internet use could be creating a sense of paranoia that is being felt inside the homes of British Muslims.
"Something is happening in the house,” Mr Hussain said. “Father is looking at son, 'What are you looking at on the Internet? What are you watching on the TV? Where are you going? Who are your friends?’ These kinds of things are already happening."
A London based producer who monitors daily a range of jihadi Web sites for CBS News, believes there is a host of factors contributing to the groundswell of anger evident among many young Muslims in Britain.
"They've lost a sense of belonging. Integration doesn't work. There's the recent spate of arrests,” he said.
But it could be the easy access to militant Islamic websites that is increasing and channeling this anger.
CBS News' producer said that young British Muslims are “more politicized than others their age, simply because of their background” and that some seek the unsanitized view of the world offered by the Internet, a view that many feel is lacking in more mainstream news.
"There's no barrier between the youngsters and what occurs in the world in terms of conflict," he said. “You go into a website at random and put in ‘beheading clips’ and you will find them, starting from Daniel Pearl in Pakistan to Ken Bigley in Iraq.”
The alleged plot by the nine terrorist suspects arrested yesterday to kidnap a serving British Muslim soldier, behead him and broadcast the footage on the web is chillingly similar to the media-savvy tactics employed by jihadist groups in Iraq.
The fighters who construct these Islamist websites have even taken to calling themselves "electronic mujahideen."
"Every operation they make, there's a camera filming it and then it's posted on the Internet," the producer said. "There's messages from al Qaeda, and now they're going on Arab satellite channels and American security centers.”
By Steve Berriman
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- As for the Internet, well it is just a medium of communication which has allowed anyone around the world to communicate with anyone else.
It's not the gun which kills but the hand which holds it and the during the Indo China war, the North Vietnamese, the and Cambodian rebels used both AK47s and M16s against the Americans.
However like with all media, whether script on paper, handbills, leafletts, newsletters, newspapers, magazines or books, radio, TV, cinema or theatre, the ruling class will not hesitate to suppress, ban or jam them with penalties upon those who access them, if they seriously threaten their rule.
During the insurgency by the Communist Party of Malaysa in the 50s and 60s and even uotim the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, possession of Communist literature, including classics like the Communist Manifesto was a jailable offense in Malaya and tecjnically still is until today, though it's now not enforced. - Reply to this comment
- This whole issue really boils down to the history of colonial ocupation of countries of the Middle-East by the European imperialist nations and the neo-colonial, meaning nominal polital independence under rule by local elites, while the former colonial master U.S. imperialists exploit ts economy, land, labour and resources.
It also is related to the domination and expansive aims of Zionist Israel within the Middle East and especially its domination and suppression of the Palestinan people and their right to a homeland.
Stop the aggression, invasion, interference in their affairs and all this will revert to peace and tolerance again. - Reply to this comment
- "None of you would recognize a dose of reality if it grew on your privates.
Posted by jairod at 09:37 AM : Feb 02, 2007
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Probably true; I'd mistake it for the warts your Mom gave me. - Reply to this comment
- "Only a liberal would make the comment Bush ran from duty"
Not true. Lots of people of all political stripes say that Bush is a liar, a coward and a draft dodger. Among many other, even worse, things.
"....tell that to the guards that serve time in Iraq...that they ran from duty."
I wouldn't do that. I would question what the *** the NATIONAL Guard is doing in an INTERNATIONAL war, though. That's not their job, and our Clueless Leader sent them there anyway, which didn't happen when he was in the Guards. The issue is not Bush joining the Guards, although at the time that was a guarantee of not seeing combat. The issue is his documented failure to fulfill his duty as a Guard and why he was not punished for that.
"BTW Clinton didnt serve, as a matter of fact he was going to communist countries...visiting during nam"
That's true, and why not? He's allowed to visit anywhwere he can, legally. Better that than a president who thinks Africa is a country. But:
1) What the hell does Clinton have to do with this? He's not president any more 2) He did in fact register for the draft while studying at Oxford. He just was never drafted; his number never came up.
Starting your post with "only a liberal" immediately branded you an idiot. You show yourself as unable to distinguish individual opinion from group ideology. - Reply to this comment
- None of you would recognize a dose of reality if it grew on your privates.
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- Could this be yet another scare story by "Big Brother" to control the internet. Governments worldwide hate the truth, they don't want the electorate finding out that they are in bed with arms manufacturers, Big Pharma and all the other corporate criminals who use "Bent" politicians to screw us. If you are a raving loony of whatever religion or race you will believe rubbish wherever it is written. Keep the net free!!
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- Only a liberal would make the comment Bush ran from duty....tell that to the guards that serve time in Iraq...that they ran from duty. BTW Clinton didnt serve, as a matter of fact he was going to communist countries...visiting during nam
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- Bush lied???? Intel lied, british and a few other western nations yapped about WMD, hell Sadam bragged about having them, and dont forget Clinton even talked about WMD. Im not crazy about bush either but the spewing of hate toward a sitting pres is making the anti-bush seem as bad as radical muslims
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- "Internet Fostering New Distrust"
Really it's who uses the internet- it's not the internet.
That's kind of a dated way of looking at it- for ill or good the internet is modern communication and has passed beyond novelty.
If some political group was making phone calls would you say "Telephones Fostering New Distrust?" - Reply to this comment
- Internet Spreading Dangerous Ideology?
And it's name is singinrick. - Reply to this comment
- Lars,,, Darfur ?? You mean the country Bush ignored for 6 years ??
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- "self defense is not against international law..... muslims want to kill non muslims...... non muslims have a right to defend themselves....
Posted by lars008 at 05:56 PM : Feb 01, 2007
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You are buying into the same ********* propaganda always used to justify war for money. It's called "demonizing the enemy". Congratulations, you are falling for the oldest trick in the book. - Reply to this comment
- Oh yes, the free exchange of ideas amongst the people is always dangerous - to the state...
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- Lars,,,, Sign up for active duty - your nations calling
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- and what of the genocide in darfur of non muslims by muslims.....
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- "tell it to the muslims..... they started it...."
That's not really true. 9/11 was the spark, but we had been interfering in their countries since at least 1948.
"and btw.... the current war in iraq is a continuation of the first one that ended in a cease fire that iraq broke, so a continuation of hostilities was inevitable....."
That is a load of bull. The first Iraq war resulted from Iraq "invading" Kuwait. People conveniently forget that until the area was partitioned by the Allies after WWII, Kuwait was part of Iraq. It would be like someone coming in and taking Rhode Island, then invading us when we tried to take it back 40 years later.
The second round of hostilities was started by the US with no provocation from Iraq. The WMDs never existed; Bush lied. Iraq was not involved in 9/11; Bush lied. There was no Al Quaeda connection; Bush lied.
What IS in Iraq is the 2nd largest oil reserve on the planet.
self defense is not against international law..... muslims want to kill non muslims...... non muslims have a right to defend themselves....
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- The root of all religions from the time mankind developed a brain capable of rational thought has been the, so far, unanswerable question, %u201Cwhere in the world did we come from%u201D?
Having no provable answer it is all too easy to simply say God created mankind, and of course, to make it more logically acceptable he also had to write or have written the bible, or whatever book a particular religion uses to explain how it all happened.
But when asked where did God come from, the only answer people of faith have is %u201CGod has always been here%u201D.
The first question, (how did mankind come to exist) baffles all nonbelievers as well.
When asked if I am a believer I can only say damfino, but I am still working on it. - Reply to this comment
- their quran orders all muslims to force islam onto all parts of the world and to kill all that refuse....
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- Very recently at that,,, Under direction of Isreals Sharron,, Christian Zionist Terorists massacred an intire Palestinian Refugee Camp, men women & children. None where spared.
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- and muslims have been invading non muslim lands since the 600s...... and they still are doing it......
yugoslavia, albania, philippines, thailand, india again and again, russia, china, africa.... breaking off pieces of countries and demanding to be allowed to create yet another fascisct nazi islamic state..... - Reply to this comment
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