Senate Iraq Battle Nears Showdown

Multiple Resolutions On Bush Troop Buildup To Be Debated Next Week

(CBS/AP)  The political battle over the war in Iraq continued Wednesday on Capitol Hill, where at least seven resolutions are on the table in response to President Bush's plan for a troop buildup.

With a Senate showdown just days away, No. 2 GOP leader Trent Lott of Mississippi said he had concerns with each of a host of the resolutions introduced so far. If Republican leaders do not rally behind a single proposal, the party could avoid taking a clear, united stance on the widely unpopular Iraq war – a consequence Lott suggested he wouldn't mind.

"To herd the cat sometimes you have to let them stray," he said. "Think about that. Keeping them together by letting them stray."

Presidential hopeful Barack Obama on Tuesday became the latest senator to offer a resolution.

"It is time for us to fundamentally change our policy, it's time to give Iraqis their country back," said Obama, D-Ill. His plan called for all U.S. troops to be out of Iraq by March of next year.

It appears the original Iraq resolution, sponsored by Democratic Sen. Joe Biden and endorsed by Republican Chuck Hagel, is losing steam, CBS News correspondent Sharyl Attkisson reports. It expresses symbolic opposition to the president's troop increase.

"It's dead, politically," said one Republican source.

Gaining steam are a similar bipartisan proposal from Repubican Sen. John Warner and a new alternative being drafted by Republicans John McCain and Lindsey Graham.

CBS News has learned the McCain-Graham resolution would "allow Republicans cover" by "admitting that the past strategy has failed." But it would support the president's troop surge. It would require Iraqi benchmarks like disarming the militia, allowing local community elections. It would not set out consequences because that, says one person close to the negotiations, "would empower the enemy."

The buildup to the vote on the Senate floor – which will probably be sometime next week – included a half dozen Congressional hearings Tuesday. In the Senate Judiciary Committee, Russell Feingold, a Democrat who chaired the hearing, said he wants to block all funding for the war.

"Congress has the power to stop a war if it wants to," said Feingold, D-Wisc., to a round of loud applause.

You don't usually hear cheers like that in Senate hearing rooms, reports Attkisson. You also don't often hear Republicans openly questioning the authority of a president of their own party.

"I would suggest, suggest respectfully to the president that he is not the sole decider," said Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, the committee's ranking Republican. "The decider is a shared and joint responsibility."

Nerves were raw all over Capitol Hill. War protesters surged into Sen. Hillary Clinton's office, demanding she take an even stronger stand against the war. Police had to break things up.

Over in the House, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, just back from visiting troops in Iraq, gave her assessment.

"The situation in Iraq is catastrophic. Let's make no mistake about that," said Pelosi, D-Calif.

CBS News chief Washington correspondent Bob Schieffer says Republicans may be using delaying tactics to postpone votes on the war resolutions as long as possible, the idea being the longer they can put those votes off, the better chance the Republicans will have to make them less critical of the president. Republicans deny all this, but they have managed to get the votes postponed until the middle of next week at the earliest.

Schieffer says he expects that "something is going to pass. Just how critical it's going to be, we don't know yet. But so many Republicans want to put some distance between themselves and the president that something is going to pass.

"These Republicans have read the polls," Schieffer said. "They're under enormous pressure, and they know it.

Here's a look at the proposals the Senate is expected to consider:

Sens. Joseph Biden, D-Del., Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Chuck Hagel, R-Neb.: A nonbinding resolution stating the troop buildup is "not in the national interest."

Sens. John Warner, R-Va., Susan Collins, R-Maine, Norm Coleman, R-Minn., and Ben Nelson, D-Neb.: A nonbinding resolution stating Senate opposition to the hefty buildup, but remaining open to a small number of additional forces and explicitly noting the president's authority over U.S. forces.

Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.: A nonbinding resolution that would express support for the added troops, but outline benchmarks the Iraqi government should meet.

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.: Legislation demanding U.S. combat forces leave Iraq by spring 2008, but would not cut funding.

Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn.: Legislation requiring congressional approval if troop levels exceed levels before the troop buildup, or around 130,000, but would not cut funding.

Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis.: Legislation pulling funding for the war after six months.

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas: A nonbinding resolution stating support for the presidenth's plan, provided that the Iraqi government "makes substantial progress toward meeting the commitments it has made" including assuming control by November 2007.

Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga.: Legislation protecting war funds from being cut.


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by condumism January 31, 2007 10:28 AM PST

Anybody that reads this article and still votes Republicon should be branded for what they really are: TRAITORS! How pathetic can any one group get as the Republicon Party of outsourcing, huge deficits, anti-science, anti-health care, and pro corporate special interests? NOte that the White House is now laying all blame on the US troops for all failures in Iraq? I'm glad the Republicon Party is now nothing more than a regional party of the original Southern Confederate States. All Republicons should be stripped of their US citizenship.

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by nyckate January 31, 2007 10:49 AM PST

Can it get any clearer? Bush/Cheney have lost the faith not just of the democrats but also the republicans - nobody believes they are capable of running the US occupation of Iraq - least not to the benefit of the US and certainly not to benefit of Iraq. Now this is bipartisan politics the way it should work!!

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by nyckate January 31, 2007 10:51 AM PST

condumism - the thing is Bush isn't really a republican - that's why he and Cheney are called neocons. I do blame the GOP for going along with Bush for 6 years despite all the experts opinion that were contrary to what Bush has been saying and doing - they put party politics before the nation's interest in their dirty quest for sole power over the US.

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by pwrslm January 31, 2007 10:56 AM PST

Leave the fighting of wars too the warriors, the politicians have no idea how to conduct a war.

Instead of concentrating on this, they should be dealing with health care, energy conservation, reduction of dependence on foreign oil sources, and the corruption in thier own houses. These people we elect to be in congress and the senate are not military genious', they are lawyers and politicians. They need to take responsibility for what they can, not try to dictate to the President and the Military how they want the war to be run.

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by pwrslm January 31, 2007 11:04 AM PST

Congress?

They were not elected as Commander in Chief.

The President was, and is.

Congress on votes to start wars, not stop them in the middle.

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by nyckate January 31, 2007 11:09 AM PST

pwrslm - one - we are not at war in Iraq - Bush ordered not a war but an invasion and occupation. Two - Bush is quite obviously incapable of properly organizing a tea party nevermind a military invasion and occupation. Three - the US is NOT a dictatorship nor a military junta - not yet at least though clearly Bush/Cheney are wishing it were.

The President of the United States IS answerable not only to Congress but to the people. Now its time you pulled your head out and started waking the heck up.

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by notblue January 31, 2007 11:22 AM PST

Let's see, who wants us to stop the war in Iraq. Al Zawahri, Osam Bin Laden, various radical Islamic groups throughout the world, Muktada Al Sadre, the Bathists, the left here in America, some weak kneed congressman on both sides of the isle who care more about there job than anything else. These symbolic resolutions amount to nothing more than a vehicle to demoralize the troops and embolden our enemies.

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by dallison7 January 31, 2007 11:24 AM PST

Pwrslm: I have grave doubt we are in the middle of Bush%u2019s Iraq war.
I believe we are at the beginning!
Bush has several other countries in this region to attack & occupy. (and he only has two years)

Posted by mocaleo at 11:18 AM : Jan 31, 2007


That is correct. He only has two years left. So many countries to attack... so little time.

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by nyckate January 31, 2007 11:25 AM PST

notblue - are you really THIS simpleminded? Bin laden LOVES that we are mired in Iraq - not only does he have handy US targets but cause we're mired in Iraq we can't properly concentrate on War on Terrorism or homeland defense. See - you and Bush really are idiots.

The US troops can't tell enemy from foe in Iraq - shiia from sunni - iraqi from iranian. We don't speak the lingo, we don't know the cultures and we don't know the people. That is why we are failing in Iraq. Bush's daddy was smart enough to NOT put ground troops in Iraq - if only his son had been half-as-smart.

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by dallison7 January 31, 2007 11:27 AM PST

What will $300,000,000,000.00 buy? How about this, alternative fuel technology!

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by dallison7 January 31, 2007 11:28 AM PST

WHERE IS BIN LADEN? Answer: Dead. He laughed himself to death listening to republicans refer to Iraq when discussing 9/11.

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by nyckate January 31, 2007 11:30 AM PST

dallison7 - quite true - now he's ordering our soldiers to stop iranians in iraq -- how the heck ar our soldiers to know the difference between an iranian shiite and an iraqi shiite - we can't even tell the difference between an iraqi shiite and an iraqi sunni for the love of pete.

Bush and Cheney seem to be trying to push the world into another world war - they look to be trying to set in motion an iranian military action that will then escalate into world war.

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by oleander8 January 31, 2007 11:33 AM PST

"...Congress? They were not elected as Commander in Chief. The President was, and is..."
Posted by pwrslm at 11:04 AM : Jan 31, 2007

Bush was not 'elected' Commander in Chief - he was appointed the first time, and cheated in Ohio the second time.

If this congress does not do something more than a
non-binding resolution to halt our participation in this war -- they will feel American's wrath in 2008.

70% of the population says ENOUGH!!!!

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by nyckate January 31, 2007 11:34 AM PST

b48151 - areyou an idiot? Don't answer - of course you are.

Did you not get your kid to read the article to you?? It said BOTH DEMS and GOP were against Bush with this resolution. HEL-LO?? Knock Knock - anyone home?? Or is your head completely empty??

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by dallison7 January 31, 2007 11:34 AM PST

All you demofeatist libs have to offer is"Cut and run..surrender...defeatism"......
Posted by b48151 at 11:29 AM : Jan 31, 2007
Hell no, we want to stay over there and kill a few thousand more innocent people and get rid of some more soldiers.. got too many. In fact, we want to invade another country and kill off a few thousand of their women and children.

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by clestes-2009 January 31, 2007 11:34 AM PST

notblue how is thinking about saving the troops lives not supporting them or demoralizing them? Why is thinking about their future as live and whole men who will be able to defend America much than if they are dead or mained, somehow dishonoring them? I am SICK of being called unpatriotic for trying to save their lives and limbs.

The problem with people like you is that you think that the ONLY way to support the troops is to rally behind the president and wave the flag, no matter how stupid or useless the war. You are narrowminded and blindly patriotic without any thought of what REAL patrioism is. Real patriots think about what is BEST for the USA and killing our troops and breaking the bank on a PERSONAL AGENDA of the president is NOT PATRIOTIC.

As for embolding the enemy, don't you think that the enemy is going to be a lot MORE embolded when US forces are totally ground into the dust of Iraq instead of withdrawing? Because, you surely know, there is NO WAY to win victory in Iraq. We are NEVER going to defeat the insurgents the way we did Germany or Japan. And you are a FOOL to think so.

Take off the rose glasses, clean out your ears from Rush speak and take a good hard look at the REAL SITUATION.

(I realize this is impossible for you, but I can hope...)

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by rick4851 January 31, 2007 11:38 AM PST

As a Vietnum combat vetern I truly feel for the troops on the ground in Iraq. These young americans are make horific decisions over life and death every day. Who is the enemy and who is not. Over here we have a clear choice who the true enemy is not Bush he's a sad follower a fool by most accounts no the enemy here is *** Channey. He has pushed this fight for profit for his former company and others. We all know there was no terrorist network in Iraq just huge oil reserves. No member of this adminstration has ever been to war which makes this situation in Iraq nothing more than a board game for them. Saddly the adminstrations mistakes have cost this country dearly in human lives, money, and world prestige. The saddest loss of all however is that of Joe Lieberman I doubt you would be so supportive if your son was over there or if it was you being shot at and forced to kill questionable combatants to survive.

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by nyckate January 31, 2007 11:43 AM PST

b48151 - teh only ones who talk in terms of surrender or cut-n-run are you braindead Bushies - stop givign us the immature not-too-bright sloganisms from Bush and Rush - we all know that booze and drugs destroyed whatever braincells they had. GROW UP - getting military advice from Bush-the-Coward and Rush-the-Moron has not worked out well for the US.

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by grumpas January 31, 2007 11:45 AM PST

What is a demofeatist lib????? Is it anything like a fascist neocon????

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by nyckate January 31, 2007 11:46 AM PST

jh6379 - Bush and his supporters never cared one whit about the plight of the iraqis and they don't care how many die now either - gotta kill'em to save'em being the born-again evangical right wing nutters motto!

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by pwrslm January 31, 2007 11:46 AM PST

Something everyone needs to learn;

Congress voted, and approved, sending our troops t Iraq. Its beyond thier means to change that. The Constitution does not vest any authority in Congress to go any further.

The Constitution vests that authority in one place, the President. The People of the USA elected Bush, so the opinions of Democrat or Republican party officials has no meaning here...

It doesnt matter if Congress diagree's with what the will of the people is, Congress' authority ends at the vote to send the troops.

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by dallison7 January 31, 2007 11:51 AM PST

It doesnt matter if Congress diagree's with what the will of the people is, Congress' authority ends at the vote to send the troops.
Posted by pwrslm at 11:46 AM : Jan 31, 2007

I think you're fixin' to find out that you are wrong. (You are, by the way) The American people and Congress are pissed. If this boils just a little more we might see some action. And, Yes, Congress has the power to end this war.

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by dallison7 January 31, 2007 11:52 AM PST

Same as Democrap...or democrat..or what ever you call yourself these days.
Posted by b48151 at 11:51 AM : Jan 31, 2007

BRILLIANT!!

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by notblue January 31, 2007 11:53 AM PST

clestes, the troops that are over there volunteered, they understand what's at stake and while the loss of one American soldiers life is unacceptable how many lives COULD be lost in the LONG RUN if we ignore the threat. People must realize even though Iraq was not a part of the war against radical Islam when it started it is now, just listen to Al Zawahri and Bin Laden. Now realizing that fact, retreat will send a message to these radicals that could result in even greater loss of American life. Pay now or pay later, later is always worse.

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by dallison7 January 31, 2007 11:56 AM PST

HEY NEOCONS!! While you are looking for Bin Laden over there in Iraq, you need to now he is avery tall man with a beard and no butt. He laughed it off listening to you talk about Iraq having something to do with 9/11.

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by frankly6 January 31, 2007 12:01 PM PST

notblue

Ok so at least you admitted that Iraq and 9/11 were not connected. I agree with you about the stakes in Iraq now but the present plan looks like another failure in the making. This war has been so incompetently handled that we have run out of good solutions. We will soon run out of bad ones too if we don't get some real leadership.

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by skyk-2009 January 31, 2007 12:04 PM PST

What is a demofeatist lib????? Is it anything like a fascist neocon????
Posted by grumpas at 11:45 AM : Jan 31, 2007
Same as Democrap...or democrat..or what ever you call yourself these days.


LOL You poor fascist can't seem to get over the fact that your "Hero" is getting the Whoopin of the century or maybe in history. He's lied to you and hasn't accomplished anything but still you blame and bash your neighbors and Fellow Citizens. No wonder Jefferson called you wack jobs unworthy of our system. By the way how can anyone contiue to support a dictator in America?

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by skyk-2009 January 31, 2007 12:08 PM PST

Like I said,"What is your plan besides surrender"You need to pull your head out!!!!


Posted
Posted by b48151 at 11:47 AM : Jan 31, 2007
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So now we're going to blame those who TOLD you moron's what would happen and refuse to listen to them? The PEOPLE who have been right about Iraq from day one We aren't going to listen to but we are going to bash and misrepresent, yet again, what they say? You know you people are about as smart as a box of rocks!! The Democrats AND the Baker Commission say as clearly as it can be said that the SOLUTION to Iraq IS NOT involved with the Military. You can NOT build a bigger Bomb or a Faster Jet and defeat a Religious Terrorist. You can NOT establish self government by using the Military. God but you poor people are simple minded....

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by dallison7 January 31, 2007 12:12 PM PST

Kinda like we paid for the Clinton incompetence when he didn't go after Bin Laden when he had the chance????
Posted by b48151 at 12:03 PM : Jan 31, 2007

Wanna buy a 'George W. Bush' doll, when wind it up it runs in circles, then falls on it's face and points at the Clinton doll.

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by bluestardad January 31, 2007 12:13 PM PST

Almost time for open revolt!

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by skyk-2009 January 31, 2007 12:14 PM PST

I don't know how to solve this problem... I really don't know who does. One thing is certain though, the way we have been going about it with the leader we have been going about it with is a TOTAL and COMPLETE failure. Those who contend that we should continue to follow failed leaders and failed policy, need to just sit down and shut up. We need to turn to leaders who are proposing alternatives OTHER than the Military. A Civil War can only be solved by those involved in it. IF we took the high road here and started being the PEACE Maker in Iraq instead of the Dictators, maybe things would improve. One thing is certain folks, Bush and the Reich he leads needs to be removed and as soom as possible!!

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by dallison7 January 31, 2007 12:14 PM PST

Almost time for open revolt!
Posted by bluestardad at 12:13 PM : Jan 31, 2007


It seems to have begun... in Congress.

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by skyk-2009 January 31, 2007 12:16 PM PST

Like I said...all you chumps have to offer is SURRENDER..
Posted by b48151 at 12:13 PM : Jan 31, 2007


Right! Simple solutions from simple minds. YOU ARE LOSING STUPID!! Now you can either change course or continue to LOSE!! Didn't Russia try your way? ROFLMAO As a Combat Vet of Vietnam I can tell you without doubt that this plan like everything else the fascist have tried will fail... they can't win and they are bankrupting America.

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by dallison7 January 31, 2007 12:20 PM PST

Right!!!!change course and surrender....pull your head OUT!!!!!!!
Posted by b48151 at 12:19 PM : Jan 31, 2007


YOU'RE AN IDIOT!! Enough said.

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by rharrin1 January 31, 2007 12:21 PM PST

pwrslm

bush says the constitution doesn't mean anything it's just a godd dammm piece of paper.

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by skyk-2009 January 31, 2007 12:28 PM PST

YOU'RE AN IDIOT!! Enough said.
Posted by dallison7 at 12:20 PM : Jan 31, 2007YOU'RE AN DEFEATIST!!!!!!ENOUGH SAID
Posted by b48151 at 12:22 PM : Jan 31, 2007


What about the WILL of the PEOPLE? IF the American PEOPLE do not want to continue to "Give" Iraq our form of Government, why should our representatives continue to send our kids out to die in a civil war? You fascist keep talking like this is something else and it ISN'T. This is a war between Shiite's and Sunni's that has been going on now for 2000 years. God how dumb can you be? Bush has been and continues to LIE to you fools and you continue, despite SEEING the truth with your own eyes, to lap it up! I mean it's not like it hasn't been PROVEN over and over and over again that Bush is a LIAR and is totally INCOMPETENT!! Geezzzz how about caring just a wee bit about the nation and NOT your party!!

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by frankly6 January 31, 2007 12:31 PM PST

The remaining GOP congressmen are looking to 08 and are no longer willing to rubber stamp every every rediculous thing Bush rolls out.

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by jsgray89 January 31, 2007 12:33 PM PST

We should've let Suddam rule his country. Yes he wasn't a good guy but he was the right guy for the job. He stabalized the region and would've fought Iran for us.
We must not let the shia's turn the middle east into the ottoman empire (islamic state) which is what these radicals want to do. I hate bush with a passion, but a lot of us needs to actually listen to what "radical islam" is all about. One religion, one law, anybody that doesn't convert must be killed. They want to take over the globe and are doing it slowly under the radar.

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by dallison7 January 31, 2007 12:36 PM PST

You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier... So long as I'm the dictator. Geroge W. Bush, 1998

This is an impressive crowd %u2014 the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elites; I call you my base. George W. Bush, 2000

We're going to get [Bin Laden] Dead or alive.
George W. Bush, 2001

So I don't know where [Bin Laden] is..You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. ...I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."
George W. Bush, 2002

See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. G.W Bush, 2003

No President has ever done more for human rights than I have. G.W. Bush, 2004

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by bluestardad January 31, 2007 12:38 PM PST

Bush has a plan, do what he wants as long as he can!

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by clemenhagen1 January 31, 2007 12:40 PM PST

Dallison7: Preach, sister, preach. You're singing to the choir here, but the rest of 'em in the pews yonder need to hear your message. Keep talkin' to 'em. Please.

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by sharncedar January 31, 2007 12:41 PM PST

Bush is in fact brilliant. He knows the Democrats are surrender-monkeys, so he keeps them in line by not having a consistent enemy from one week to another. Who can the Democrats surrender to?

It was the insurgents, it was the dead-enders, it was the foreign fighters in Iraq, it was the militias, it was the enemies of democracy, it was something called "al Qaeda" which is an Arab entity, it was something called "al Quida" which was a Somalian entity not related to Arabs, it was Bin Laden, then it wasn't Bin Laden, it was Saddam Hussein who is now dead .... ?

Leaves the surrender-monkeys totally confused, who can they surrender to? The most brilliant war strategy in history, change enemies every week.

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by dallison7 January 31, 2007 12:43 PM PST

Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job.
George W. Bush, 2005

But I%u2019m the decider, and I decide what is best.
George W. Bush, 2006

I've listened a lot to members of Congress. I've listened carefully to their suggestions.
George W. Bush, 2007

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by clemenhagen1 January 31, 2007 12:44 PM PST

One trillion dollars and counting would sure provide a lot of security for the homeland. Fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here is a simplistic joke. Pull out, redeploy, and focus our energy and money on improving and strengthening security here at home.

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by randalds January 31, 2007 12:47 PM PST

Kinda like we paid for the Clinton incompetence when he didn't go after Bin Laden when he had the chance????
Posted by b48151 at 12:03 PM : Jan 31, 2007

Clinton went after him twice and was told by the republicans in the House and Senate that he was just trying to draw attention away from that joke of a "scandal" about him getting a BJ. Bush on the other hand sat on his as*s, in spite of being repeatedly warned by the out-going administration, until bin Laden hit us on 9-11. Bush dropped the ball big time. Besides I doubt that there were few people in the world as delighted at the 9-11 attack as Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. This was the "Pearl Harbor type event" that'd been praying for to give them an excuse to go after Iraq. In spite of the fact that Iraq had nothing to do with it. I'm sure they were dancing with joy as the towers fell.

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by dallison7 January 31, 2007 12:48 PM PST

George H. W. Bush is sitting quietly now thinking, "I should have pulled out".

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by rsoxfan1123 January 31, 2007 12:52 PM PST

"I'm sure they were dancing with joy as the towers fell."
Posted by RandalDS at 12:47 PM : Jan 31, 2007

Harsh but true Randal. People all over the arab world danced for joy with them, including in saudi arabia, until their governments made them stop because it made the world realize just how barbaric and primitive they actually were.

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by randalds January 31, 2007 12:59 PM PST

I just realized we couldhave gotten rid of Bush there just was no woman on earth including his idiot wife pickels that would give him a b j.
Posted by jerryomara at 12:55 PM : Jan 31, 2007

You're forgetting his mistress, Condi Rice. Though I'm not sure if even she'd do that.

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by marcodele January 31, 2007 1:06 PM PST

[George H. W. Bush is sitting quietly now thinking, "I should have pulled out".
Posted by dallison7] Too funny!
I'm sure Barbara Bush is still pro-choice, and is in fact considering making abortions legal retroactively up until age 60.

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by mbcsmith January 31, 2007 1:07 PM PST

Any of you neo con Nazi's that voted for the *** hole in the white house and now try to make Bill Clinton the scape goat forget it he is a higher approval rating then any republican ever had. It is time to IMPEACH THE IDIOT!!
Posted by jerryomara at 12:53 PM : Jan 31, 2007


Monica?...Is that you?

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[condumism]

Anybody that reads this article and still votes Republicon should be branded for what they really are: TRAITORS! How pathetic can any one group get as the Republicon Party of outsourcing, huge deficits, anti-science, anti-health care, and pro corporate special interests? NOte that the White House is now laying all blame on the US troops for all failures in Iraq? I'm glad the Republicon Party is now nothing more than a regional party of the original Southern Confederate States. All Republicons should be stripped of their US citizenship.

[nyckate]

Can it get any clearer? Bush/Cheney have lost the faith not just of the democrats but also the republicans - nobody believes they are capable of running the US occupation of Iraq - least not to the benefit of the US and certainly not to benefit of Iraq. Now this is bipartisan politics the way it should work!!

[nyckate]

condumism - the thing is Bush isn't really a republican - that's why he and Cheney are called neocons. I do blame the GOP for going along with Bush for 6 years despite all the experts opinion that were contrary to what Bush has been saying and doing - they put party politics before the nation's interest in their dirty quest for sole power over the US.

[pwrslm]

Leave the fighting of wars too the warriors, the politicians have no idea how to conduct a war.

Instead of concentrating on this, they should be dealing with health care, energy conservation, reduction of dependence on foreign oil sources, and the corruption in thier own houses. These people we elect to be in congress and the senate are not military genious', they are lawyers and politicians. They need to take responsibility for what they can, not try to dictate to the President and the Military how they want the war to be run.

[pwrslm]

Congress?

They were not elected as Commander in Chief.

The President was, and is.

Congress on votes to start wars, not stop them in the middle.

[nyckate]

pwrslm - one - we are not at war in Iraq - Bush ordered not a war but an invasion and occupation. Two - Bush is quite obviously incapable of properly organizing a tea party nevermind a military invasion and occupation. Three - the US is NOT a dictatorship nor a military junta - not yet at least though clearly Bush/Cheney are wishing it were.

The President of the United States IS answerable not only to Congress but to the people. Now its time you pulled your head out and started waking the heck up.

[notblue]

Let's see, who wants us to stop the war in Iraq. Al Zawahri, Osam Bin Laden, various radical Islamic groups throughout the world, Muktada Al Sadre, the Bathists, the left here in America, some weak kneed congressman on both sides of the isle who care more about there job than anything else. These symbolic resolutions amount to nothing more than a vehicle to demoralize the troops and embolden our enemies.

[dallison7]

Pwrslm: I have grave doubt we are in the middle of Bush%u2019s Iraq war.
I believe we are at the beginning!
Bush has several other countries in this region to attack & occupy. (and he only has two years)

Posted by mocaleo at 11:18 AM : Jan 31, 2007


That is correct. He only has two years left. So many countries to attack... so little time.

[nyckate]

notblue - are you really THIS simpleminded? Bin laden LOVES that we are mired in Iraq - not only does he have handy US targets but cause we're mired in Iraq we can't properly concentrate on War on Terrorism or homeland defense. See - you and Bush really are idiots.

The US troops can't tell enemy from foe in Iraq - shiia from sunni - iraqi from iranian. We don't speak the lingo, we don't know the cultures and we don't know the people. That is why we are failing in Iraq. Bush's daddy was smart enough to NOT put ground troops in Iraq - if only his son had been half-as-smart.

[dallison7]

What will $300,000,000,000.00 buy? How about this, alternative fuel technology!

[dallison7]

WHERE IS BIN LADEN? Answer: Dead. He laughed himself to death listening to republicans refer to Iraq when discussing 9/11.

[nyckate]

dallison7 - quite true - now he's ordering our soldiers to stop iranians in iraq -- how the heck ar our soldiers to know the difference between an iranian shiite and an iraqi shiite - we can't even tell the difference between an iraqi shiite and an iraqi sunni for the love of pete.

Bush and Cheney seem to be trying to push the world into another world war - they look to be trying to set in motion an iranian military action that will then escalate into world war.

[oleander8]

"...Congress? They were not elected as Commander in Chief. The President was, and is..."
Posted by pwrslm at 11:04 AM : Jan 31, 2007

Bush was not 'elected' Commander in Chief - he was appointed the first time, and cheated in Ohio the second time.

If this congress does not do something more than a
non-binding resolution to halt our participation in this war -- they will feel American's wrath in 2008.

70% of the population says ENOUGH!!!!

[nyckate]

b48151 - areyou an idiot? Don't answer - of course you are.

Did you not get your kid to read the article to you?? It said BOTH DEMS and GOP were against Bush with this resolution. HEL-LO?? Knock Knock - anyone home?? Or is your head completely empty??

[dallison7]

All you demofeatist libs have to offer is"Cut and run..surrender...defeatism"......
Posted by b48151 at 11:29 AM : Jan 31, 2007
Hell no, we want to stay over there and kill a few thousand more innocent people and get rid of some more soldiers.. got too many. In fact, we want to invade another country and kill off a few thousand of their women and children.

[clestes-2009]

notblue how is thinking about saving the troops lives not supporting them or demoralizing them? Why is thinking about their future as live and whole men who will be able to defend America much than if they are dead or mained, somehow dishonoring them? I am SICK of being called unpatriotic for trying to save their lives and limbs.

The problem with people like you is that you think that the ONLY way to support the troops is to rally behind the president and wave the flag, no matter how stupid or useless the war. You are narrowminded and blindly patriotic without any thought of what REAL patrioism is. Real patriots think about what is BEST for the USA and killing our troops and breaking the bank on a PERSONAL AGENDA of the president is NOT PATRIOTIC.

As for embolding the enemy, don't you think that the enemy is going to be a lot MORE embolded when US forces are totally ground into the dust of Iraq instead of withdrawing? Because, you surely know, there is NO WAY to win victory in Iraq. We are NEVER going to defeat the insurgents the way we did Germany or Japan. And you are a FOOL to think so.

Take off the rose glasses, clean out your ears from Rush speak and take a good hard look at the REAL SITUATION.

(I realize this is impossible for you, but I can hope...)

[rick4851]

As a Vietnum combat vetern I truly feel for the troops on the ground in Iraq. These young americans are make horific decisions over life and death every day. Who is the enemy and who is not. Over here we have a clear choice who the true enemy is not Bush he's a sad follower a fool by most accounts no the enemy here is *** Channey. He has pushed this fight for profit for his former company and others. We all know there was no terrorist network in Iraq just huge oil reserves. No member of this adminstration has ever been to war which makes this situation in Iraq nothing more than a board game for them. Saddly the adminstrations mistakes have cost this country dearly in human lives, money, and world prestige. The saddest loss of all however is that of Joe Lieberman I doubt you would be so supportive if your son was over there or if it was you being shot at and forced to kill questionable combatants to survive.

[nyckate]

b48151 - teh only ones who talk in terms of surrender or cut-n-run are you braindead Bushies - stop givign us the immature not-too-bright sloganisms from Bush and Rush - we all know that booze and drugs destroyed whatever braincells they had. GROW UP - getting military advice from Bush-the-Coward and Rush-the-Moron has not worked out well for the US.

[grumpas]

What is a demofeatist lib????? Is it anything like a fascist neocon????

[nyckate]

jh6379 - Bush and his supporters never cared one whit about the plight of the iraqis and they don't care how many die now either - gotta kill'em to save'em being the born-again evangical right wing nutters motto!

[pwrslm]

Something everyone needs to learn;

Congress voted, and approved, sending our troops t Iraq. Its beyond thier means to change that. The Constitution does not vest any authority in Congress to go any further.

The Constitution vests that authority in one place, the President. The People of the USA elected Bush, so the opinions of Democrat or Republican party officials has no meaning here...

It doesnt matter if Congress diagree's with what the will of the people is, Congress' authority ends at the vote to send the troops.

[dallison7]

It doesnt matter if Congress diagree's with what the will of the people is, Congress' authority ends at the vote to send the troops.
Posted by pwrslm at 11:46 AM : Jan 31, 2007

I think you're fixin' to find out that you are wrong. (You are, by the way) The American people and Congress are pissed. If this boils just a little more we might see some action. And, Yes, Congress has the power to end this war.

[dallison7]

Same as Democrap...or democrat..or what ever you call yourself these days.
Posted by b48151 at 11:51 AM : Jan 31, 2007

BRILLIANT!!

[notblue]

clestes, the troops that are over there volunteered, they understand what's at stake and while the loss of one American soldiers life is unacceptable how many lives COULD be lost in the LONG RUN if we ignore the threat. People must realize even though Iraq was not a part of the war against radical Islam when it started it is now, just listen to Al Zawahri and Bin Laden. Now realizing that fact, retreat will send a message to these radicals that could result in even greater loss of American life. Pay now or pay later, later is always worse.

[dallison7]

HEY NEOCONS!! While you are looking for Bin Laden over there in Iraq, you need to now he is avery tall man with a beard and no butt. He laughed it off listening to you talk about Iraq having something to do with 9/11.

[frankly6]

notblue

Ok so at least you admitted that Iraq and 9/11 were not connected. I agree with you about the stakes in Iraq now but the present plan looks like another failure in the making. This war has been so incompetently handled that we have run out of good solutions. We will soon run out of bad ones too if we don't get some real leadership.

[skyk-2009]

What is a demofeatist lib????? Is it anything like a fascist neocon????
Posted by grumpas at 11:45 AM : Jan 31, 2007
Same as Democrap...or democrat..or what ever you call yourself these days.


LOL You poor fascist can't seem to get over the fact that your "Hero" is getting the Whoopin of the century or maybe in history. He's lied to you and hasn't accomplished anything but still you blame and bash your neighbors and Fellow Citizens. No wonder Jefferson called you wack jobs unworthy of our system. By the way how can anyone contiue to support a dictator in America?

[skyk-2009]

Like I said,"What is your plan besides surrender"You need to pull your head out!!!!


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Posted by b48151 at 11:47 AM : Jan 31, 2007
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So now we're going to blame those who TOLD you moron's what would happen and refuse to listen to them? The PEOPLE who have been right about Iraq from day one We aren't going to listen to but we are going to bash and misrepresent, yet again, what they say? You know you people are about as smart as a box of rocks!! The Democrats AND the Baker Commission say as clearly as it can be said that the SOLUTION to Iraq IS NOT involved with the Military. You can NOT build a bigger Bomb or a Faster Jet and defeat a Religious Terrorist. You can NOT establish self government by using the Military. God but you poor people are simple minded....

[dallison7]

Kinda like we paid for the Clinton incompetence when he didn't go after Bin Laden when he had the chance????
Posted by b48151 at 12:03 PM : Jan 31, 2007

Wanna buy a 'George W. Bush' doll, when wind it up it runs in circles, then falls on it's face and points at the Clinton doll.

[bluestardad]

Almost time for open revolt!

[skyk-2009]

I don't know how to solve this problem... I really don't know who does. One thing is certain though, the way we have been going about it with the leader we have been going about it with is a TOTAL and COMPLETE failure. Those who contend that we should continue to follow failed leaders and failed policy, need to just sit down and shut up. We need to turn to leaders who are proposing alternatives OTHER than the Military. A Civil War can only be solved by those involved in it. IF we took the high road here and started being the PEACE Maker in Iraq instead of the Dictators, maybe things would improve. One thing is certain folks, Bush and the Reich he leads needs to be removed and as soom as possible!!

[dallison7]

Almost time for open revolt!
Posted by bluestardad at 12:13 PM : Jan 31, 2007


It seems to have begun... in Congress.

[skyk-2009]

Like I said...all you chumps have to offer is SURRENDER..
Posted by b48151 at 12:13 PM : Jan 31, 2007


Right! Simple solutions from simple minds. YOU ARE LOSING STUPID!! Now you can either change course or continue to LOSE!! Didn't Russia try your way? ROFLMAO As a Combat Vet of Vietnam I can tell you without doubt that this plan like everything else the fascist have tried will fail... they can't win and they are bankrupting America.

[dallison7]

Right!!!!change course and surrender....pull your head OUT!!!!!!!
Posted by b48151 at 12:19 PM : Jan 31, 2007


YOU'RE AN IDIOT!! Enough said.

[rharrin1]

pwrslm

bush says the constitution doesn't mean anything it's just a godd dammm piece of paper.

[skyk-2009]

YOU'RE AN IDIOT!! Enough said.
Posted by dallison7 at 12:20 PM : Jan 31, 2007YOU'RE AN DEFEATIST!!!!!!ENOUGH SAID
Posted by b48151 at 12:22 PM : Jan 31, 2007


What about the WILL of the PEOPLE? IF the American PEOPLE do not want to continue to "Give" Iraq our form of Government, why should our representatives continue to send our kids out to die in a civil war? You fascist keep talking like this is something else and it ISN'T. This is a war between Shiite's and Sunni's that has been going on now for 2000 years. God how dumb can you be? Bush has been and continues to LIE to you fools and you continue, despite SEEING the truth with your own eyes, to lap it up! I mean it's not like it hasn't been PROVEN over and over and over again that Bush is a LIAR and is totally INCOMPETENT!! Geezzzz how about caring just a wee bit about the nation and NOT your party!!

[frankly6]

The remaining GOP congressmen are looking to 08 and are no longer willing to rubber stamp every every rediculous thing Bush rolls out.

[jsgray89]

We should've let Suddam rule his country. Yes he wasn't a good guy but he was the right guy for the job. He stabalized the region and would've fought Iran for us.
We must not let the shia's turn the middle east into the ottoman empire (islamic state) which is what these radicals want to do. I hate bush with a passion, but a lot of us needs to actually listen to what "radical islam" is all about. One religion, one law, anybody that doesn't convert must be killed. They want to take over the globe and are doing it slowly under the radar.

[dallison7]

You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier... So long as I'm the dictator. Geroge W. Bush, 1998

This is an impressive crowd %u2014 the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elites; I call you my base. George W. Bush, 2000

We're going to get [Bin Laden] Dead or alive.
George W. Bush, 2001

So I don't know where [Bin Laden] is..You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. ...I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."
George W. Bush, 2002

See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. G.W Bush, 2003

No President has ever done more for human rights than I have. G.W. Bush, 2004

[bluestardad]

Bush has a plan, do what he wants as long as he can!

[clemenhagen1]

Dallison7: Preach, sister, preach. You're singing to the choir here, but the rest of 'em in the pews yonder need to hear your message. Keep talkin' to 'em. Please.

[sharncedar]

Bush is in fact brilliant. He knows the Democrats are surrender-monkeys, so he keeps them in line by not having a consistent enemy from one week to another. Who can the Democrats surrender to?

It was the insurgents, it was the dead-enders, it was the foreign fighters in Iraq, it was the militias, it was the enemies of democracy, it was something called "al Qaeda" which is an Arab entity, it was something called "al Quida" which was a Somalian entity not related to Arabs, it was Bin Laden, then it wasn't Bin Laden, it was Saddam Hussein who is now dead .... ?

Leaves the surrender-monkeys totally confused, who can they surrender to? The most brilliant war strategy in history, change enemies every week.

[dallison7]

Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job.
George W. Bush, 2005

But I%u2019m the decider, and I decide what is best.
George W. Bush, 2006

I've listened a lot to members of Congress. I've listened carefully to their suggestions.
George W. Bush, 2007

[clemenhagen1]

One trillion dollars and counting would sure provide a lot of security for the homeland. Fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here is a simplistic joke. Pull out, redeploy, and focus our energy and money on improving and strengthening security here at home.

[randalds]

Kinda like we paid for the Clinton incompetence when he didn't go after Bin Laden when he had the chance????
Posted by b48151 at 12:03 PM : Jan 31, 2007

Clinton went after him twice and was told by the republicans in the House and Senate that he was just trying to draw attention away from that joke of a "scandal" about him getting a BJ. Bush on the other hand sat on his as*s, in spite of being repeatedly warned by the out-going administration, until bin Laden hit us on 9-11. Bush dropped the ball big time. Besides I doubt that there were few people in the world as delighted at the 9-11 attack as Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. This was the "Pearl Harbor type event" that'd been praying for to give them an excuse to go after Iraq. In spite of the fact that Iraq had nothing to do with it. I'm sure they were dancing with joy as the towers fell.

[dallison7]

George H. W. Bush is sitting quietly now thinking, "I should have pulled out".

[rsoxfan1123]

"I'm sure they were dancing with joy as the towers fell."
Posted by RandalDS at 12:47 PM : Jan 31, 2007

Harsh but true Randal. People all over the arab world danced for joy with them, including in saudi arabia, until their governments made them stop because it made the world realize just how barbaric and primitive they actually were.

[randalds]

I just realized we couldhave gotten rid of Bush there just was no woman on earth including his idiot wife pickels that would give him a b j.
Posted by jerryomara at 12:55 PM : Jan 31, 2007

You're forgetting his mistress, Condi Rice. Though I'm not sure if even she'd do that.

[marcodele]

[George H. W. Bush is sitting quietly now thinking, "I should have pulled out".
Posted by dallison7] Too funny!
I'm sure Barbara Bush is still pro-choice, and is in fact considering making abortions legal retroactively up until age 60.

[mbcsmith]

Any of you neo con Nazi's that voted for the *** hole in the white house and now try to make Bill Clinton the scape goat forget it he is a higher approval rating then any republican ever had. It is time to IMPEACH THE IDIOT!!
Posted by jerryomara at 12:53 PM : Jan 31, 2007


Monica?...Is that you?