PYONGYANG, North Korea, July 15, 2007

Joe Dresnok: An American In North Korea

Bob Simon Reports On The Last U.S. Soldier Still Living In North Korea

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(CBS)  In their first epic in 1978, Dresnok played the brutal American commander of a POW camp.

"I don’t consider it a propaganda movie. I took great honor in doing it," Dresnok said.

“And that was how he found salvation in North Korea is that he played the part of an evil American,” Gordon says.

“And he’s the John Wayne of North Korea,” Bonner adds.

“The John Wayne of North Korea playing the villain,” Simon remarks, laughing.

And Dresnok enjoyed becoming a celebrity. "We walk around with him and people say, 'Come here, come here,'" explains Gordon. "He’d never have done that in Virginia, you know? He wasn’t exactly Hollywood material."

Beyond starring in dozens of movies, he translated the Great Leader's writings into English. He taught some English as well.

"I've taught in a foreign language college in 1986. I poured all my knowledge and effort to help them, to teach them. Some of the places in the educational fields, they invite me to give a lecture once in a while," Dresnok says.

In North Korea, Dresnok finally got what he had never had in America: a family. He married an eastern European woman and had two sons. But his wife died young. Then, he married the daughter of a Korean woman and an African diplomat; she and Dresnok have a six-year-old.

The British filmmakers were stunned by his eldest son James, who’s studying at Pyongyang’s elite foreign language college.

"My father is American and I've got American blood. But as I born here I consider myself as Korean," James told the filmmakers.

"He speaks and acts like a Korean. He speaks English in a Korean accent. It’s a very strange thing," says Gordon.

"When we interviewed him he says you know, you want peace in this world. I don’t understand what all this war is going on—or “wer” as he calls it. I would like to be in a position where we can we can stop all this," Bonner adds.

"I start to learn English to become a diplomat. I’d like to make the world which has no war at all. And no terror at all," James told the film team.

“He thinks of himself as Korean. His friends are Korean. But you mentioned, he doesn’t want to marry a Korean woman,” Simon asks Gordon.

“Yeah. I mean, that’s what he was saying. But you know, his best friend, who’s Korean is like, ‘All the Korean girls love him,’ you know,” he replies laughing.

Gordon says James is a popular kid. “I mean they love him. And you know, he’s got blond hair and blue eyes.”

Now his father's days are pretty dull—fishing, and smoking, and drinking. The government provides a small apartment and a monthly stipend, but even in the capital, where only the privileged are allowed to live, blackouts are frequent, and running water seldom runs. All homes have a built-in radio speaker that pipes out propaganda. The radio can be turned down, but not off.

"There is this propaganda everywhere in North Korea," explains Gordon. "You walk down the street, there’s all sorts of revolutionary music that will just play out from loud speakers. Down the escalators into the metro, propaganda is playing. If you’re in the fields, you’ll have news read to you. And that’s all part and parcel of their propaganda machine."

The wide streets of the capital see little traffic and surprisingly few bicycles. The government believes bikes give people too much mobility and make them too hard to keep track of.

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by drrushfan81 July 17, 2007 1:02 AM EDT
He is a crazy old fool. Not American in my book. Just plain fat coward and Traitor.
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by jinxter3 July 17, 2007 12:45 AM EDT
FASCINATING story on Dresnok. Believe me, he has paid for his treachery every day of his life in N. Korea, despite his false bravado on tv.

The overbearing eyes and hands of NK's censors and handlers was laughingly obvious in the story. Imagine a bottle of Johnny Walker being available to any citizen, even Dresnok. That was probably his first taste of American liquor in 45 years, and I'd be surprised if we was allowed to keep the bottle after the film crew left.

No, Dresnok is living in a hell that even the filmmakers are unable to capture. He is a prisoner in a foreign, frightened, artifical and suspicous culture. He abandoned his country, assaulted his fellow Americans, and sold his soul for NOTHING. 45 years in North Korea is a punishment worse thn death or 20 years on death row. Pity Dresnok for his uninformed decision from so long ao that ruined his life.
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by ajax52151 July 16, 2007 2:16 PM EDT
Obviously Mr. Dresnok has some psychological issues of which I'm not qualified to comment on. However my question is this, with all of the really important events going on in the world today, why would 60 minutes devote any time to this person and subject? He was not a spy, nor did he do anything but provide the North Koreans with a momentary and insignificant propaganda opportunity. He smokes, drinks and goes fishing, where is the story? If it wasn't so sad it would be amusing to contemplate the North Korean propagandists sitting around trying to figure out what to do with this buffoon.
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by ago5675 July 16, 2007 1:34 PM EDT
No matter how you slice and dice it, he is NOT an American. He is a Traitor and a waste of good oxygen on this earth. Someone should have put a bullet through his head many years ago as he crossed the line.
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by theav1 July 16, 2007 12:58 PM EDT
Let's don't call this story "An American in North Korea". Let's call it what HE is "A Traitor in North Korea". He should not share the same title as our brave men and women who fought for this country. The ones that didn't run like cowards. The best news is that his health is failing. He'll be dead soon, and we won't have to hear of this anymore.
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by nyteryder2 July 16, 2007 2:52 AM EDT
As for this story, it does not deserve the time and space it occupies and the traitor is not worth the space he occupies.

Anyone who would run through a minefield like a coward rather than stand and fight deserves the miserable life he ended up with.

He certainly would not be any better off in this country; he's just a friggin' loser. In fact, he's just one more loser not being supported by our government.
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by nyteryder2 July 16, 2007 2:46 AM EDT
"I thought it was the FOREIGN INVADERS AND COLONIZERS OF KOREAN SPACE who started the war, and still refused to leave Korean space to this day? LOL" Posted by Agnim at 04:45 PM : Jan 29, 2007
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Actually the Korean peninsula was divided after WWII into Soviet and American zones just like Germany was. The Korean war started out as a civil war between the north and south when N. Korea attacked the south.

So, without the intervention of the Soviets and Americans the war would have been over in a heartbeat and over 50,000 additional Americans would probably be alive today enjoying their grandchildren.

So, is the current state of Korean affairs worth 50,000+ American lives and countless billions of dollars of our support?

I ask the same question about Iraq.
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by nyteryder2 July 16, 2007 2:35 AM EDT
"No one even dares to mention the 35-50 American POWs from the Vietnam War still being held in North Korea. ... They are there, I know!!" Posted by glimmerman7 at 01:54 PM : Jan 29, 2007
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Unless you saw them yourself you don't KNOW that they are there.

What is your reference or source for our government claiming they are defectors? Surely you have a URL to share with us.
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by fallonpa July 16, 2007 12:30 AM EDT
I think this story did not deserve any air time. It shows disrespect to the many heros that gave their life in the Korean Conflict, to allow this traitor to have one second of air time. I am a retired USAF Airman. Served during the Viet Nam conflict and had the honor to serve with several Korean Conflict veterans, who were still on active duty at the beginning of my service. I am certain that every one of these honorable military men, would find this 60 minutes news piece, disrespectful of their service. I know that I did and I did not serve in the Korean conflict.
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by niufan99 July 15, 2007 10:51 PM EDT
This guy dosen't mean squat to me he's just living out a misrable life.
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by Josemerced July 15, 2007 10:41 PM EDT
As a lifelong USAF veteran, I was almost physically ill when you wasted 20 minutes of precious airtime on this Traitor "piece of garbage" who claimed to have been a US soldier when he defected and crossed over to North Korea. The mere fact that he refuses to stop smoking or drinking to improve his health tells it all..he is a weakling, a coward and a waste of oxygen...
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by agnim January 31, 2007 7:46 PM EST
"They are going to string him up by his Buster-browns.

Posted by garner991 at 03:48 PM : Jan 31, 2007"

You are a dreamer; "string him up" for what? LOL

The guy was lost since he was a child; and he finally found himself, A FAMILY HE NEVER HAD, and a stationary home.
Unless we are devilish, we should be happy for him and let him live out his days in peace. LOL
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by queenmillennia January 30, 2007 8:47 PM EST


Article in 1996.
http://www.korea-dmz.com/home/page/sub05/02/sub05_02_01.asp?s_oid=@4402%7C7%7C1&s_oid_class=cda_article

It's in Korean.
Well, American soldiers crossed DMZ and went into North Korea are totally new to me.
I'm Korean & run www.law4u.net .



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by queenmillennia January 30, 2007 8:46 PM EST


Article in 1996.
http://www.korea-dmz.com/home/page/sub05/02/sub05_02_01.asp?s_oid=@4402%7C7%7C1&s_oid_class=cda_article

It's in Korean.
Well, American soldiers crossed DMZ and went into North Korea are totally new to me.
I'm Korean & run www.law4u.net .



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by glimmerman7 January 30, 2007 12:19 PM EST
No, you don't have to be up to no good to be spied upon. I worked for this government for more than 20 years in various "trusted" capacities plus I am a former state police investigator. Yet my government spies on me all of the time (emails, phone, etc.). When two FBI agents appeared at my home to question me about my email traffic to my son here in the US, I informed them it was against the law to do so and they agreed, apologized to me and left. The apology does not make a difference they have comitted a criminal act (US Constitution, Bill of Rights, Article IV). When I worked for the government and the state police I took an oath to honor our US Constitution and to protect our country against all enemies, foreign and domestic. It is truly a shame our "fearless" leaders cannot and will not do the same. But I am a forgiving individual and I do forgive them for the crimes they have comitted against me but they should still be held accountable for any violations of our laws or we no longer have a democracy, just a dictatorship. It is my hope we don't become the same as our "enemies"?

God Bless

Glimmerman
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by rufusmin January 29, 2007 9:49 PM EST
My last comments were for lieberman18 when he criticized me for having an opinion. May I remind him he's only entitled to his because this is a free country. At least in this forum. But then again, we are spied upon, too, by our own. I rather imagine, lieberman18,that if you were up to no good (as determined by our government) that government would come down on your head good and plenty. So be careful. Be very, very careful. Hahahahahahaha (maniacal laughter).
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by rufusmin January 29, 2007 9:43 PM EST
The last I heard this was still a free country - or so they tell us. Maybe you object to my "Bush-bashing" because you are really a control freak or even a potential dictator a la that crazy guy in North Korea. Anyway, I think it is a GOOD thing that this story came to light so we can see just how crafty "our enemies" are. After all, there is proof positive now that the media/art/whatever you want to call it DOES influence human behavior (this is something I've been touting for YEARS and no one believes me). Look how the little kids in Iraq are "playing" Saddam Hussein's execution. Once upon a time (in this country, anyway) kids "played" Superman or the Marvels (Capt., Capt. Jr. and Mary) or other media good guys. So don't let anyone tell you people can't be influenced by what they see and hear whether or not they are lies. Look at the poor slob, Jack-Daniels-drinking, smoking-like-a-fish Joe what's-his-name. I think it's VERY important to know what the bad guys are up to. Probably most of you are too young to know how the Communist Russians lionized Paul Robeson who had been treated so badly by his compatriots because he was black. He was influenced by communism to the point where he believed it was the answer. And on and on. By the way, I don't drink Jack Daniels or any other alcoholic beverages and I quit smoking when NY upped the taxes. Had no trouble giving it up after 40+ years of a heavy duty habit. And just to set the record straight, I voted for Bush both times.
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by agnim January 29, 2007 7:54 PM EST
Posted by kat26ky at 04:52 PM : Jan 29, 2007

And you think that Americans are fed to overfill with propaganda also? LOL
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by glimmerman7 January 29, 2007 7:53 PM EST
I am no way supporting Mr. Dresnok! I am merely trying to educate you that there is a reason for everything. It can be a story we like or do not like personally. Just be objective. I take no sides in this matter. I am only here to enlighten or educate. Nothing more and nothing less. I deal only in FACTS! You can choose to listen or ignore. That is entirely up to you.

God Bless

Glimmerman
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by agnim January 29, 2007 7:53 PM EST
Good for old Joe Dresnok.

After rough beginnings, he finally got a life and is being respected and treated better than many American vets.

Joe is so proud that he is able to send his child to college, something he probably couldn't imagine for himself growing up.
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