BAGHDAD, Iraq, Jan. 4, 2007

Questions Swirl Around Saddam's Hanging

2 Guards, 1 Official Questioned On How Outsiders Got Into Death Chamber

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    • Iraqis hold pictures of the country's ousted dictator Saddam Hussein during a protest in Tikrit, near his hometown, 80 miles north of Baghdad, Iraq, Wednesday, Jan. 3, 2007.

      Iraqis hold pictures of the country's ousted dictator Saddam Hussein during a protest in Tikrit, near his hometown, 80 miles north of Baghdad, Iraq, Wednesday, Jan. 3, 2007.  (AP Photo/Bassim Daham)

    • An Iraqi watches video footage of the execution ousted leader Saddam Hussein on a mobile phone at a shop in central Baghdad 31 December 2006.

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    • Iraq's former President Saddam Hussein's brother-in-law Arshad Yassin Al Nassiri, center with head gear, accepts condolences from unidentified well-wishers regarding the former Iraqi president's execution, at his residence in Doha Qatar on Wednesday, Jan.3, 2007.

      Iraq's former President Saddam Hussein's brother-in-law Arshad Yassin Al Nassiri, center with head gear, accepts condolences from unidentified well-wishers regarding the former Iraqi president's execution, at his residence in Doha Qatar on Wednesday, Jan.3, 2007.  (AP Photo)

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  • Military commanders have told President Bush they are prepared to execute a troop surge that would put about 9,000 soldiers and Marines into Iraq with another 11,000 on alert outside the country, reports CBS News national security correspondent David Martin.

  • Four Americans and an Austrian abducted in November in southern Iraq spoke briefly and appeared uninjured in a video believed to have been recorded nearly two weeks ago and delivered Wednesday to The Associated Press. The men — security contractors for the Crescent Security Group, based in Kuwait — appeared separately on the video, and three of them said they were being treated well. They were kidnapped Nov. 16 when suspected militiamen in Iraqi police uniforms ambushed a convoy of trucks.

    As the storm over the handling of the hanging gained strength, Caldwell was among several U.S. officials who suggested displeasure with the conduct of the execution.

    "If you are asking me: 'Would we have done things differently?' Yes, we would have. But that's not our decision. That's the government of Iraq's decision," the general said.

    The White House declined to join in the criticism.

    "The president is focused on the new way forward in Iraq so these issues are best addressed out of Iraq, out of Baghdad," deputy White House press secretary Scott Stanzel said. "Prime Minister Maliki's staff have already expressed their disappointment in the filmings, so I guess we'll leave it at that."

    Stanzel said the U.S. military and the U.S. Embassy in Iraq had expressed concerns about the timing of the execution and about "the process and what took place."

    State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said U.S. officials had questioned holding the execution on a Muslim festival day, the opening of Eid al-Adha, and as well as some procedures.

    Wednesday's remarks by U.S. officials were the first public confirmation of reports that the Americans had questioned the timing of the hanging.

    The second-guessing over the conduct of the execution came as Iraqi and Arab media and an Iraqi government official said preparations were under way to hang two of Saddam's co-defendants in the next few days but that the details still have to be worked out with the American military.

    A Cabinet official, speaking anonymously because of the sensitivity of the information, said the two men would hang "at the beginning of next week."

    Caldwell said those executions, like Saddam's, were the responsibility of the Iraqi government. "It's a sovereign nation. It's their system. They make those decisions."

    Saddam's half brother Barzan Ibrahim, a former intelligence chief, and Awad Hamed al-Bandar, the former chief justice of the Revolutionary Court, were originally scheduled to hang with Saddam. But their execution was delayed until after Eid al-Adha, which ended Wednesday for Iraq's majority Shiites.

    U.N. human rights chief Louise Arbour, backed by new Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, appealed to Iraqi President Jalal Talabani to prevent the execution of Ibrahim and al-Bandar, saying she was concerned with "the fairness and impartiality" of their trials.


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    by grazinggoat January 5, 2007 2:38 AM EST
    Really need to sleep, bye now and yall have a great night.
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    by grazinggoat January 5, 2007 2:34 AM EST
    Heard this fairy tale for 50 yrs now. What you don't understand is that Jesus is not the only case of Godly humans to have come to earth and suffered for their sisters, brothers, neighbors, nations... Humanity is full of sacrifices. And they are all 'willed' by The Creator.

    The last case was a man who tried to save another one who fell off a train, very recently in the State. They both had to creep under the incoming train on the other track. He put his life at risk to save the other's.

    No one can recount all the sacrifices of one's life for the others. And most of them were genuine, coming instantanously, without any prior reflection. They are all Godly gestures.
    Continue please...
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    by grazinggoat January 5, 2007 2:33 AM EST
    ...Continued
    One should not restrict this generosity only to one controversial but special Creature. Look at all the controversies that have been documented about the life of Jesus ( Maria-Magdalena, lack of knowledge about Jesus from the Adolesence to thirty) etc...

    As previoulsy stated, the blessing of knowledges continues to pour on Humanity and all the scientific discoveries are the perfect illustration of 'miracle-making'. Medical Cures discoveries, unavailable less than 20 yrs ago, are a perfect example of such continuous blessing and revelation... You may be blaspheming if you just restrict the revelations of The Creator just to the period of Jesus. The Creator is Eternal and time is not a limitation to Him. As stated previously, the Past, the Present and the Future are sizable at the same moment for Him, so please don't squat strictly on the previous revelations. There are many to come...
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    by grazinggoat January 5, 2007 1:45 AM EST
    Yo my friend Rick,
    why don't you have a look at the last version of the UnitedNations Charter of Rights. It has eliminated all discriminations against people no matter what religion, what race, what nationality and what gender, or s3xual orientation they are.

    No confusion, clearly written and full of commomn sens. Jesus, Abrahma, Moses, Mohammed, Buddha, Krishna and all the other prophets would have adopted it as their Charter of Human Rights. Actually if you look at it, you can see it's much inspired from the Noble Books throughout history. This charter of rights could be a reference into human rights and obligations for centuries to come...

    http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html
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    by grazinggoat January 5, 2007 12:49 AM EST
    SickRick:
    Sura (2:191) - And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]

    No intention here to defend anything, but this seems to be what we call self-defense/Resitance for occupied land and its retake.

    The word drove is the past form of the verb drive (not a car) but rather push, kick someone out of his home, land. This is written in the United Nations' Charter of Rights.

    The other part about 'terror in the heart' is quite terrifying, but doesn't say nothing about killing Christians as you pretend.
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    by pakaal January 5, 2007 12:19 AM EST
    There are tons of references to violence and killing in the Christian Bible. Allah's exhortations are hardly less vicious than the Christian God's, here's just a few....

    The prophet Samuel gave Saul these instructions from the Lord: "Go now and fall upon the Amalekites and destroy them. . . . Spare no one; put them all to death, men and women, children and babes in arms, herds and flocks, camels and *****."

    Jeremiah denounces those who won't do the killings desired by the Almighty. He declares: "A curse on him who is slack in doing the Lord's work! A curse on him who withholds his sword from bloodshed!"

    God promised to make an end of the people of Judah by "sword, with famine and pestilence." And the Lord pledged to do the same to any nation that would not submit to his "servant" Nebuchadrezzar, the Babylonian king.

    But of course when it's Christians fighting against "nonbelievers" they tell people it's different, because the Christian God (as they tell us) is the only true god, and he has every right to kill whomever he wants.
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    by grazinggoat January 4, 2007 10:51 PM EST
    SickRick,
    you just said it U are ridiculous and a biggot. You need to repent and express apologies for the blasphemies you said about all other religions.

    but indeed Im hateful, toward the skepticism about all the magical stories that are told in the holybooks. Unfortunately Just can't be as easy to convince as you, with all the discrepencies with the cartesian logics that WE've been taught. Not criticising a fairy tale and gobble it as is, man, we're heading down to hell.

    Shame on you SickRick and I reiterate if you still think that others' religion are not as good as yours (I'd say as bad), well up to you to be happy that way. I prefer to be tormented now and later in my life, to being taken as another individual into the hurd of sheeps.

    You started from a prejudiciable vision toward the others... and that is bad, so sad. All humans have been created EQUAL and FREE at their birth, and Equal and Free shall they stay untill they naturally die, according to United Nations Charter of Rights, a sacred text that preserved the rights of humans all over the world, much more than religions did ever. Never ever the human race has been in a better condition than since the adoption of the UN charter of rights. So please keep your convictions for yourself and stop smearing others' beliefs. Nobody is preventing you from believing in all fairytales you wish. But please don't impose it on others...


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    by annd2302 January 4, 2007 10:40 PM EST
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    Posted by singinrick at 05:34 PM : Jan 04, 2007

    "AND it's also a crime to carry a Bible, from what I've read."

    Now, just where in the hell did that come from you gunzel-head.
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    by stekat-2009 January 4, 2007 8:24 PM EST
    Chadi7, It's apparent that you didn't get my point. I said,"those that believe in and practice the teachings of Jesus" not those that appear to be Christians. That's exactly what is wrong with those that bash Christianity today. They think that anyone and everyone that goes to church is a follower of Jesus when in reality they are pretenders, frauds or perpetriators. Everyone that call themself a Christian isn't. In the Christian world you have your saints and then you have your aints. The same applies to every religion, even to those who do not believe in a god. Those are the ones when something fortunate or a misfortune occurs the first thing that comes out of their mouth is, Oh My God!, or Jesus Christ! My only reason for responding to you is to inform you that all those that believe in GOD aren't bad, and that applies to those that don't believe! God chose me to believe and you chose not to believe and I respect that! But in the End, you'd better be right!
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    by chadi7 January 4, 2007 6:04 PM EST
    stekat,
    "those that believe in and practice the teachings of Jesus turn out to be more loving, friendlier, kind, giving, forgiving, patient, less apt to steal, cheat, lie, seek revenge, murder, seek anothers property or wife or to take advantage of another for their advancement"

    well let's see. I went to a bible college and I was a children's minister, lets see what all occured. First off, people in a church can be some of the meanest people you will ever meet. Thet have an agenda and they don't care what they have to do to get it done (because God is on their side). I've met more friedlier people outside of a church than inside one. Patience is not a virture that is well taught in churches, fighting for God is what is really taught. While I was in bible college a good friend of mine (who also went to the bible college) had an affair with my wife (we're now divorced). My ex-brother-in-law was yelled at and told he wasn't a true christian because he didn't believe in calvinism. I'm not saying all christians are bad, but you've got to realize that christianity doesn't solve all of our problems. It can create more. Religion doesn't change people, people change religion. They make it suit whatever their needs are. There are bad christians just like there are bad islamist. Religion is just a veil they wear to justify their actions.
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    by grazinggoat January 4, 2007 4:09 PM EST
    Rusty50
    Jesus loves ya, man. He does. He wants you into a relationship, heart to heart. SickRick is getting the credit-points for that enrolling.
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    by thgdriver January 4, 2007 3:56 PM EST
    Rochest SEZ:

    "The Iraqi government is arresting the folks who exposed the truth."

    You have got to be kidding me, They were out to make some "bucks" that's all. Exposing the truth, I can't believe you believe that.

    Besides, after watching that vidio. I don't expect to hear many going around saying they saw Saddam at the local Wall Mart with Elvis.
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    by rusty50-2009 January 4, 2007 3:56 PM EST
    It's completely laughable how Christians infiltrate a news message board with their own twisted "message" of God and Jesus. These deranged bible-thumpers, trying to shove Christianity down everyone's throats, seem to feel they have found a new medium to do so.

    Stick it up your @sses. People shun religion because of freaks like singingrick and other sickos posting their BS religious baloney here and everywhere else they find an opportunity.

    How many of your priests have given it to little boys up the @ss - those men are the face of god in this world. Popes who decry birth control.....yep, Christianity is every bit as sick and bogus as Islam.

    Religion, false as it is, is right out there, available to anyone who feels the urge to partake. Go to church and sing and pray to your naive hearts' content, and shut your pie holes when you leave.

    Selah
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    by nyckate January 4, 2007 3:36 PM EST
    To stekat - much of America doesn't have a problem with religion - what we are tired of is the incessent non-stop preaching from the neo-right - as if their brand of christianity is THE one - that its better than all the rest - and then there is the dangerous insertion into government of religious beliefs ... we aren't tired of religion we are exhausted by the continued act of those who feel they are the 'true believers' preaching to the rest of us -- we want you to stop. If the discussion is about Saddam's hanging then stop talking religion.
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    by jn122736 January 4, 2007 3:35 PM EST
    Singinrick said:
    %u201CBeing a Christian isn't about the "church" either. It's about accepting Christ.I won't get into detail though to save myself from ridicule on here...%u201D

    I suspect it is rather to avoid answering logical questions.

    In response to this earlier partial statement from singinrick:
    %u201CMuslims DO NOT believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that He came to this earth to die for our sins as God in the flesh.%u201D

    I asked the following two questions:

    How was Jesus%u2019 dying on the cross a sacrifice? If, as you claim, He were god in the flesh he would feel no pain and the crucifixion would have been merely symbolic. Are you saying Jesus was a show-off?

    If, as you further claim, none can go to heaven unless they accept Jesus as their savior what do you think will happen to all the people throughout history who never even heard of him, For instance all the inhabitants of the Australian, North and South American continents? No one at that time even knew they existed. Evidently not even Jesus.

    Singinrick%u2019s non-answer was a link to another opinion.

    I repeat, logic and religion are mortal enemies.
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    by elcin-2009 January 4, 2007 3:34 PM EST
    Jesus Christ isnt the son of GOD. you have changed the truth like that..
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    by stekat-2009 January 4, 2007 3:25 PM EST
    Regardless of what some people think about religion, those that believe in and practice the teachings of Jesus turn out to be more loving, friendlier, kind, giving, forgiving, patient, less apt to steal, cheat, lie, seek revenge, murder, seek anothers property or wife or to take advantage of another for their advancement. Those that believe in the teaching of Jesus aren't perfect, but they seek perfection through Jesus the Christ! Those that don't believe in any God have be brainwashed by their own ideology and the wisdom of man. The so called Christians of the past give those of today a bad rep. but I look beyond the past to today and tomorrow and I see a happier life and brighter future for me than for those that believe only in themselves.
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    by Renegade.Rivers January 4, 2007 3:23 PM EST
    nyckate your are so right.

    Our world has been turned upside down by these zealots, that are no more than liars, filled with blasphemies, and out for one thing, the control of minds and bodies to do their bidding.
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    by Renegade.Rivers January 4, 2007 3:14 PM EST
    Lol, your are so bogus singinrick,

    -Fighting with people is one thing, but purposely killing them for refusing to convert to Muslim is a whole different subject.

    How many native Americans did your religion kill because they were so-called "heathens and infidels?"

    You don't believe in the same God as me, because I believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who died for our sins.

    Muhammed did not die for our trangressions. He was a mere mortal human being like the rest of us.

    So was Jesus.

    Muslims are still killing people for not converting to their beliefs....
    Christians don't fly airplanes into buildings killing thousands of innocent people.

    No they bomb them from 40,000 feet.

    If you have any inkling that I am muslim, you couldn't be further from the truth, I am agnostic, and believe that both religions should be outlawed.

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    by nyckate January 4, 2007 3:11 PM EST
    To renrivers - let's face facts - the neocons didn't care about the plight for iraqis or others before Bush invaded Iraq so nobody is buying into their fake compassion these days either! it's hard to figure them out - Bush and Cheney both said they agreed with Vietnam but neither wanted to go over - they seem to feel that they are above that kind of service that they are the 'deciders' not the 'doers' and that its right that they maintain their station in life and that others give their lives instead of them - its true calvinism - that Bush has a claimed higher status than the rest of us - that he was born to be the 'decider' and the rest were born to do his bidding. Quite surreal to the rest of us but to them it is the way of things.
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