School Board Ends Evolution Warning Drive

Georgia School Abandons Defense Of Cautionary Stickers On Science Books

(AP)  A school board in suburban Atlanta has given up on its years-long defense of placing stickers critical of the theory of evolution on high school science books.

The Cobb County school board signed an agreement filed in U.S. District Court on Tuesday agreeing never to use a similar sticker or to undermine the teaching of evolution in science classes.

In return, plaintiffs who sued the board agreed to drop all legal action.

"We certainly think that it's a win not just for our clients but for all students in Cobb County and, really, all residents of Georgia," said Beth Littrell, associate legal director with the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia.

The school board placed the stickers on the cover of biology books in 2002 after a group of parents complained that evolution was being taught to the exclusion of other theories, including the Biblical story of creation.

The stickers read, "This textbook contains material on evolution. Evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things. This material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully and critically considered."

U.S. District Judge Clarence Cooper ordered the stickers be removed in 2005, saying they convey an "impermissible message of endorsement" of religion, despite not specifically mentioning it.

[randalds]

And I have no problem with you thinking what you like, until you try to force it on others, esp in the schools. Then that's where I have to step in a stop your cr*ap from infecting our children. And that's what religion is, an infection. A mental illness.

[randalds]

Well since I don't believe in a creator it's a moot point.

[randalds]

But that's not what you said rick. You said "GOD Says" and then quoted something not in the bible. That's a lie and a sin. that's pretending to speak for god.

Doesn't matter. The dirty, filthy underside of Christianity is the same as it is with all religions. "We are the only way and anyone who doesn't believe like we do is going to hell". Dress it up all you want, but ALL religions come down to that simple, sick lie and therefore all of them are more harmful then helpful. All of them are bigoted against and intolerant of each other and none of them belong in a secular school.

[randalds]

If there was a god then the only admittance test would be are or were you a good person. No other test period."
Posted by RandalDS at 09:15 PM : Dec 22, 2006

-If you've read the Bible like you've claimed you have Randal then you would realize that we do not get to Heaven by doing "Good deeds" but only by Jesus Christ sacrifice on the cross for our sins. Of course it's pleasing to God to do good works, but the Bible specifically says we are not justified simply by our works. Here's a couple of more Bible verses for you:


Which is my point and one of the many reasons I don't believe in god. As I said, IF there was a god you wouldn't have to be anything other then a good person. The fact that you have to believe that all good people around the world that don't think exactly like you do are going to hell is reason enough to reject the very concept of a god. It's not the only reason I don't believe in god, but if it was it'd be a good enough one.

[randalds]

-Duh Randal....you can see the problems everywhere. Turn on your tv or do some "googling".

God tells us to pray in the Bible Randal. There are two main methods of communicating with God. One is through prayer, and the other is by reading His words from the Bible.

Posted by singinrick at 09:23 PM : Dec 22, 2006

That doesn't answer my question, did god tell you that personally? Younindicated as much in your post.

Oh never mind I have to go tell my Jewish wife she's going to hell because she doesn't think Jesus is the son of god. She's about to light her Hanukkah candles, so I'm sure she'll get a chuckle out of it.

[randalds]

-And you're telling me that forcing them to learn evolution isn't intolerance??? The children have no choice Randal. It's either evolution, or nothing else. This is a known fact nationwide. Throw God out of everything. And you wonder why this country has lost it's moral values gradually over the years. Is it really a wonder? The country had better moral standards and values when GOD AND PRAYER were allowed in schools. Ever since God has been taken out of the schools, things have taken a turn for the worse. This is also, a WELL KNOWN fact.

Posted by singinrick at 09:04 PM : Dec 22, 2006

Of course it's not intolerance because it's proven science. You can deny that truth all you want, but it doesn't make it any less true. Creationism is mythology and does not belong in science class in any manner. forcing children to learn YOUR religious version of how the world was created, esp to the exclusion of all others, is religious bigotry of the worst kind. Are we to teach Every religious myth? The Romans believed the world was flat and rested on the back of a turtle. Shouldn't we teach that too? Where does it stop? The Aztecs and Mayans have a completely different view of how the world was created so why not teach that too? The fact is they are all myths and evolution is proven fact. That's why it's in the science class.

[randalds]

GOD says:

"Have you seen what has happened in the classroom since prayer was removed??"

Posted by singinrick at 09:08 PM : Dec 22, 2006

Oh/ And when did "god" tell you this?

[randalds]

So all Jews are going to hell because they don't accept Christ. Pretty it up anyway you choose, that's condemning Jews to hell. If there was a god he/she wouldn't be that way. If there was a god he/she would accept every good person regardless of if they've ever even heard of Christ or not or what religion they follow and even all good people who reject the teachings of the bible. If there was a god then the only admittance test would be are or were you a good person. No other test period.

[randalds]

-Being a Christian is having a relationship with Jesus Christ Randal. Have you seen me once promote hatred, intolerance, or bigotry on here?? To the contrary, I have been telling you God loves you, I have been telling you that you have the right to choose, and I have been telling you that Jesus died on the Cross for us for our sins. If you define these things as "hatred, bigotry, or intolerance" then you have some serious soul searching to do...

Posted by singinrick at 08:54 PM : Dec 22, 2006

You are trying to impose your myths on public school children by trying to force the garbage of creationism on them. You are trying to have them taught that evolution is unproven and don't want it taught at all. That is bigotry and intolerance.

[randalds]

-uuum...I'm a Christian Randal....do you see me condemning all the Jews? :)

Posted by singinrick at 08:52 PM : Dec 22, 2006

So then tell me, do you think Jews who don't accept christ are going to hell or not? Yes or no.

[randalds]

I want children to open their eyes to real learning, not close them with the imposed bigotry and intolerance of modern Christianity. i want them to question everything, esp religion, and find the answers for themselves. When they do, they'll no longer believe the fairy tales people like you are trying to tell them.

[randalds]

There's plenty of education in the Bible my friend. You're just a non-believer, so you believe anything but the Bible. This is all so silly....

Posted by singinrick at 08:38 PM : Dec 22, 2006

I have read the bible and the main thing it taught me was that most Christians have no real concept of it's teachings. They preach intolerance, hate and bigotry. it also taught me that Christians believe that everyone but them are going to hell, which is the same thing as every other religion says. they can't all be right, so they must all be wrong, since it's not possibile for everyone to practice all of them.

[randalds]

A Jew, by definition, is among those who have not "accepted Christ" as a "saviour" once the do they are not Jewish they are Christians. All Christians (or the bulk of them anyway) think that unrepentant Jews are going to hell. I don't know a single Jew who has any intention of changing their faith and most of them are among the nicest most godly people in the world. If there was a heaven, they'd be there, not hell with the intolerant.

[randalds]

There is no lord, so it's not possible to take his name in vain. I hope children do read this board as it might make them question the garbage their ministers are feeding them (along with the grouping I'm sure they're throwing in on the side) and start to look into the truth themselves. Education leads to evolution, religion leads to oppression.

[randalds]

Have a happy Hanukkah rick. And don't forget, Jesus was a Jew and according to your belief all Jews will burn in hell. Funny how that works isn't it? Oh and if by some tiny chance you're right about god, at least I'll be spending eternity in hell with my Jewish wife and you won't be there, so it'll be better then heaven for sure, because I'd rather spend an eternity in burning pain in hell, then in "heaven" with smug as*sholes like you and your christian friends.

[randalds]

-You also haven't heard one word in your Science class giving God the Credit for creating our universe either have you? Evolution is a process that tries to dismantle the existence of God, period. It contradicts the Bible, it disproves God's wonderful creation of life, and it mocks the very reason why we are here. So explain to me, how is this not dismantling God?? And don't tell me it's because "God doesn't belong in the classroom" either...

Posted by singinrick at 05:55 PM : Dec 22, 2006

Well you're right about that, it does disprove creation. And the reason god isn't given any credit for the creation of the universe is that there is no god, therefore no god to create the universe. And of course god doe not belong in the classroom, except in philosophy and mythology classes. Still I have no illusions that you'll ever come around to the truth of evolution because you've obviously drank the kool aid of Christianity and are now drunk on the myth. I have no problem with that as many Christians are harmless enough (dull, but harmless) just so you keep your godd*amn garbage out of science class.

[passerby2]

if god was so mighty and powerful why hasn't any miracles occurred to help anyone. why hasn't he sent down a prophet to part the oceans so they can help the poor people of Darfur escape their miserable conditions.

[passerby2]

i haven't heard one phrase in all the science classes i have taken that has dismantle or slander god.

[passerby2]

saying god existed and created everything is like starting at sentence and putting a period right after the first word i.e. "The." thats a sentence because there's a period right there, there's no need to go any further because there's already a period and it's a sentence. you wrap everything up with god did it. i'm happy for you that you found inner peace with god, but expecting everyone else to look to god for peace is wrong. god is no the "period", he is not the truth, and if you end it with god as a period then you've locked out any other possibilities for anything else.

[randalds]

You're getting dull rick, boring. The one note song of a fool. I have better things to do right now...like take sh*it. Bye for now.