Hillary Talks Troop Levels, 2008 Run

Former First Lady Says She Knows Better Than Anyone How Hard It Is To Be President

(AP)  Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said Monday she would not support a short-term increase in American troop presence in Iraq unless it was part of a more comprehensive plan to stabilize the country.

Clinton also offered the broadest indication yet that she was close to a decision on whether to enter the 2008 Democratic presidential field.

"I want to make sure the decision is right for me, my family, my party and my country," Clinton said during an interview on NBC's "The Today Show." She appeared on the show to promote the re-release of her best-selling book on child rearing, "It Takes a Village."

The former first lady said she knew more than any other potential candidate how hard it was to be president. "I saw it in an up close and personal way for eight years," she said. She reiterated that she would not disclose her decision until sometime after the first of the year.

Clinton's comments on the presidential race were her most expansive since winning re-election to the Senate from New York last month. Since then, she has been contacting potential supporters in key early voting states like Iowa and New Hampshire, but publicly has said very little about her plans.

She also offered praise for Sen. Barack Obama, the Illinois Democrat who has also indicated he may enter the race. Obama drew huge crowds on a visit to New Hampshire earlier this month.

"He's terrific. He's a friend and a colleague. I have very high regard for him," she said, while sidestepping a question about whether Obama would make a good president.

"I think he is a really exciting personality and someone who has a lot to contribute to the national dialogue," Clinton said.

Clinton, a member of the Senate Armed Services committee, said she was not in favor of a proposed "surge" of some 20,000-40,000 American troops into Baghdad to quell the sectarian violence there. President Bush is reportedly considering such a move as one of many options to improve the situation in Iraq.

Nevada Sen. Harry Reid, the incoming Senate Majority Leader, suggested over the weekend he would support a short-term troop increase if it would speed up the time frame for pulling troops out of Iraq.

Clinton indicated she was skeptical of such a proposal.

"I am not in favor of doing that unless it's part of a larger plan," Clinton said. "I am not in favor of sending more troops to continue what our men and women have been told to do, with the government of Iraq pulling the rug out from under them when they actually go after some of the bad guys."

Clinton, who voted in 2002 to authorize military intervention in Iraq, said she was wary of increased military presence in the war-torn country.

"I'm not going to believe this president again," Clinton said.

In an commentary published Monday in the Wall Street Journal, Clinton and Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., urged the Bush administration to press the Iraqi government to apportion that country's oil revenues so that "every individual Iraqi would share in the country's oil wealth."

Clinton has pushed for an "Iraq Oil Trust" modeled on the Alaskan Permanent Fund to give residents a share of the revenues. "A significant percentage of oil revenues would be divided equally among ordinary Iraqis, giving every citizen a stake in the nation's recovery and political reconciliation and instilling a sense of hope for the promise of democratic values," the senators wrote.

[randalds]

I guess if you're not intelligent enough to think of anything original to say you just keep posting the same *** over and over again. Sad really.

[processor2]

Once again, RandalDs and frankly6 are proof that:

1) liberals get mad when their beloved rhetoric is nullifed by the truth.

2) liberalism is obviously a mental disorder

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Since comparing Republican vs Democrat is an argument which never goes anywhere, let's instead compare Democrat vs Democrat, let's say JF Kennedy vs Clinton(s)


The Clinton(s) philosophy on government is:

1) "Big Government" will take care of you from "cradle to grave" (socialism)

2) Don't worry, "Big Government" will solve all your problems for you

3) It takes a village (Big Government)


Whereas , JF KEnnedy said:

"ask NOT what your country can do for you, but rather what you can do for your country.

These two philosophies (BOTH democrat) are completely opposite of each other.

I would much rather be a JF Kennedy democrat than a Clinton socialist.

Sounds like the NeoCommies (MoveOn.org types) have taken over a democrat party I once knew and repected.

[randalds]

Put the shower rape on pay per view worldwide and we'd raise enough money to pay the reparations to Iraq that they have coming.

[randalds]

You know, the more I think about that mental picture the more I smile. Bush and Cheney getting gang raped in a prison shower! Sends chills down my spine and puts a song in my heart!

MMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!

[scouser691]

Processor2 - So libs spend billions on social programs, whats your point. I notice you don't complain about conservatives who spend a trillion dollars to get us into a disasterous quagmire, money well spent right?

[randalds]

And for the next ten to twenty years, you will be sent to a government funded facility that will

provide all of the above %u201Crights%u201D to you.

Posted by processor2 at 07:46 PM : Dec 19, 2006

And I'm sure Bush and Cheney will enjoy the facilities and services you've named. Oh don't forget to tell them about the getting raped in the showers they have to look forward. Couldn't happen to two more deserving guys!

[randalds]

As I said, repeating your lies doesnt make them true. You're a sad pathetic little human being who's beloved president's administration is coming apart at the seems. It's collapsing all around you and the only thing you have left to grab on to are feeble lies and twisted statistics. Hey I can sympathize. You're going down in flames and I can almost feel sorry for you because of it. Almost.

If you just weren't so blatantly wrong and so sickeningly obnoxious about it.

[processor2]

LIBERAL PARADISE ALREADY EXISTS IN THE U.S.A.

There already exists an institution in the USA that provides:

1) Free health care

2) Free dental care

3) Free educational opportunities

4) Free vocational opportunities

5) Free meals

6) Free housing

7) Free utilities (energy)



All you have to do to receive the above %u201Crights%u201D is: rob a bank, get caught, and convicted.

And for the next ten to twenty years, you will be sent to a government funded facility that will

provide all of the above %u201Crights%u201D to you.

[processor2]

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GOOGLE "NATIONAL DEBT"


Posted by RandalDS (with a few words changed)

Repeating the same rhetoric over and over doesn't make the truth any less true, whiner. That's an old left wing trick, but after awhile you sound even more ignorant and begin to sound just shrill. Your rhetoric is stale and you've been caught in your intolerance, so repeating rhetoric and refusing to except the truth doesn't help.

And "loser"? Is that the best you can do? Grow up child.

Posted by RandalDS at 06:36 PM : Dec 19, 2006






Once again, RandalDs and frankly6 are proof that:

1) liberals get mad when their beloved rhetoric is nullifed by the truth.

2) liberalism is obviously a mental disorder

[randalds]

Repeating the same lies over and over doesn't make the truth any less true loser. That's an old right wing trick, but after awhile you sound even less truthful and begin to sound just shrill. Your statistics are fixed and you've been caught in your lie, so repeating it doesn't help.

And bawhawhaw? Is that the best you can do? Grow up child.

[processor2]

Since comparing Republican vs Democrat is an argument which never goes anywhere, let's instead compare Democrat vs Democrat, let's say JF Kennedy vs Clinton(s)


The Clinton(s) philosophy on government is:

1) "Big Government" will take care of you from "cradle to grave" (socialism)

2) Don't worry, "Big Government" will solve all your problems for you

3) It takes a village (Big Government)


Whereas , JF KEnnedy said:

"ask NOT what your country can do for you, but rather what you can do for your country.

These two philosophies (BOTH democrat) are completely opposite of each other.

I would much rather be a JF Kennedy democrat than a Clinton socialist.

Sounds like the NeoCommies (MoveOn.org types) have taken over a democrat party I once knew and repected.

[processor2]

For RandalDS & frankly6 ... All you have to do is Google "national debt"


The National Debt To the Penny
Current Amount

09/29/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03

SOURCE: BUREAU OF THE PUBLIC DEBT


Like I said, there was not one year in which the national debt went down during the Clinton Regime. What Clinton DID was dramatically slow down the rate of increase in the national debt...but the fact remains...the national debt INCREASED during the Clinton regime

PS.....National Debt & budget deficits/surplus are two different things

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[processor2]

"I repeat, you're a loser. And not only a loser, a lying loser."

Posted by RandalDS at 04:29 PM : Dec 19, 2006


IS THIS AN EXAMPLE OF "LIBERAL TOLERANCE" THAT I"VE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT ???

Bwa hahahahahahhahahaha

I rest my case....too easy....way too easy..NEXT

[randalds]

Just saw Hillary on TV in a clip from the Today show saying she still hasn't decided if she'll run. Chris Matthews said she's still being "coy", but I couldn't disagree more. She past coy a long time ago and has become just plain annoying. No one believes that she hasn't decided to run and constantly dodging the question is insulting to potential supporters. At one time I considered supporting her, but no longer. Why would I support someone who has this much trouble making up her mind about this? It's like all of those idiots who 2 weeks from a national election say they're still "undecided". You know if you haven't made up your mind who you're going to vote for that close to an election, then maybe you're too stupid to make such an important decision.

At this point she's dragged this out so far that I don't care one way or another if she's going to run or not. She's lost my vote with this game playing.

[randalds]

That would be the White House of the current administration, loser. Even their records show that as part of the gross national product and adjusted for inflation the national debt went down several hundred billion dollars. Now you tell me, why would the Bush White House use those figures? Why would they have on their website figures that make the Clinton administration look more fiscally responsible then them? Think they're lying to make themselves look worse? Or could it be that even they don't want to get caught lying about the truth. The national debt as figured by the current White House went down several hundred billion dollars. Call them and tell them they're wrong if you like. I repeat, you're a loser. And not only a loser, a lying loser.

[processor2]

Posted by randalDS


The fact is that using the White Houses own figures the national debt dropped by hundreds of billions of dollars during the Clinton administration..


Your using the White House figures rather than an independent source ?!?!?!?

bwahahahahahahahaha

Try using your brain instead of left-wing sheeple rhetoric

Facts are better than loser rhetoric

NEXT

[processor2]

For RandalDS & frankly6 ... All you have to do is Google "national debt"


The National Debt To the Penny
Current Amount

09/29/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03

SOURCE: BUREAU OF THE PUBLIC DEBT


Like I said, there was not one year in which the national debt went down during the Clinton Regime. What Clinton DID was dramatically slow down the rate of increase in the national debt...but the fact remains...the national debt INCREASED during the Clinton regime

PS.....National Debt & budget deficits/surplus are two different things

........................

[randalds]

Still a crock. You're using gross national debt figures that don't account for the debt as part of the gross national product (which is how the White House and Congress figure it) and not adjusted for inflation. The fact is that using the White Houses own figures the national debt dropped by hundreds of billions of dollars during the Clinton administration. Go to www.zfacts.com and see the real figures (taken from www.whitehouse.gov) and do the math, loser.

[processor2]

For RandalDS & frankly6 ... All you have to do is Google "national debt"


The National Debt To the Penny
Current Amount

09/29/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03

SOURCE: BUREAU OF THE PUBLIC DEBT


Like I said, there was not one year in which the national debt went down during the Clinton Regime. What Clinton DID was dramatically slow down the rate of increase in the national debt...but the fact remains...the national debt INCREASED during the Clinton regime

PS.....National Debt & budget deficits/surplus are two different things

........................

[randalds]

The neocons philosophy. No government. that's it right there. Nothing else. Everything run by private companies controlled by the rich. Get sick? Too bad for you, ya fu*cking whinner. Can't work through no fault of your own? Tough sh*it, loser, find a work house prison. Hurricane, tornado or earthquake? Hey don't look to the non-existent government. Sink or swim as*shole! Company forcing you to work 7 days a week, 80hrs? Hey, shame there's no workers rights left, isn't it? Other countries threatening us? Look out for a tax raise (unless you're rich of course) to pay for the Haliburton army. Can't get an education for your kids? Too da*mn bad! What do you expect, public schools? Send them to Andover where der fuhrer went, if you can afford it! Ha Ha Ha Ha!