Exposing The Truth Of Abu Ghraib
Anderson Cooper Interviews Whistleblower Joe Darby
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Play CBS Video Video The Abu Ghraib Whistleblower In Full: Joe Darby, the man who first exposed the Abu Ghraib prison scandal, tells CNN's Anderson Cooper he faced hostility and lived in fear after blowing the whistle on his fellow soldiers.
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Video Joe Darby's 'Homecoming' Abu Ghraib whistleblower Joe Darby tells Anderson Cooper how he was told by the U.S. Army that he could not return to his Maryland home because the military felt it was not "safe" for him there.
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Joe Darby, speaking with Anderson Cooper (CBS)
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Still, Darby decided he had to turn in the pictures but he didn't want his friends to know that he had done it.
Asked why it was important to him to remain anonymous, Darby says, "I knew a lot of them wouldn't understand and would view me being a stool pigeon or however, a rat, however you want to put it."
"You knew there would be some kind of investigation?" Cooper asks.
"I knew these people were going to prison," Darby says. And in his opinion, they deserved to go to prison.
Darby copied Graner's pictures onto a disc and put it in an envelope with an anonymous letter. He took the envelope to the Criminal Investigations Division — CID — and told them it had been left on his desk.
"I said, 'This was left in my office. I was told to give it to the CID.' I said, 'Have a nice day, Sir,' and turned around and walked away," Darby recalls.
Darby hoped that would be the end of it but within less than 45 minutes, the investigator came to him.
And the investigator knew that Darby wasn't telling the truth. He promised to keep Darby's name secret, and convinced him to explain how he had really gotten those pictures. Then investigators immediately began to round up the suspects.
"Once they were brought in, once this investigation began, were they removed from the base?" Cooper asks.
"No," Darby says. "They still had their weapons. They still had unlimited access to the facility and me the whole time, for almost a month."
He says he was very scared and even slept with a pistol under his pillow. "With my hand on it. I put it in my pillow case, I put my hand on it and cocked it, cocked the hammer and I'd sleep with it under my hand under my pillow," he remembers.
He slept like this every night. "I slept in a room by myself. And anybody could come in in the middle of the night. You walk in the door, you hang a left, and then come in and cut my throat," Darby says.
"And you really thought that could happen, someone could cut your throat?" Cooper asks.
"I knew that if they found out who did it, they would be after me," he says.
Weeks later, the guards under investigation were removed and Darby could finally sleep without a gun under his pillow. The suspects were gone, and his name was still secret.
Several months later, 60 Minutes II broke the story of the pictures. An article in "The New Yorker" revealed Darby's role, though no one in Iraq seemed to notice.
But then, while Darby was having lunch in the mess hall watching Donald Rumsfeld testify before Congress about Abu Ghraib, the defense secretary said, "There are many who did their duty professionally and we should mention that as well. First, Specialist Joseph Darby, who alerted appropriate authorities that abuses were occurring."
"I just stopped in mid bite. I was eating and I just stopped. What the hell just happened? Now the anxiety came back. Now, I'm worried," Darby remembers. "Everyone in the unit knew within four hours."
What was the reaction?
"It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. You know, I got support," Darby says.
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- Mr. Darby is a hero. A man of integrity who acknowledges the distinction between legality and morality; cronies and criminals; right and wrong. It's been a long time since I've had someone make me feel so proud to be an American. Mr. Darby, you have served and sacrificed much, you have carried yourself with great dignity and honor and I thank you.
Andy Pease - Reply to this comment
- re: Sgt. Joseph Darby:
As a combat vet, Republic of Viet Nam,1967-68 and a proud VFW member, I congratulate Sgt. Darby for his courage.
As a combat vet, Republic of Viet Nam,1967-68 and a proud VFW member, I am ashamed of the VFW Post that would not defend the Constitution and therefore the soldiers fighting under that sacred document.
As members of the United States Armed Forces, we pledge allegiance to the Constitution. All else is secondary.
Sgt and Mrs. Darby, I wish you well and God Speed.
Manuel Serrano HM3
3/7-1 - Reply to this comment
- re: Sgt. Joseph Darby:
As a combat vet, Republic of Viet Nam,1967-68 and a proud VFW member, I congratulate Sgt. Darby for his courage.
As a combat vet, Republic of Viet Nam,1967-68 and a proud VFW member, I am ashamed of the VFW Post that would not defend the Constitution and therefore the soldiers fighting under that sacred document.
As members of the United States Armed Forces, we pledge allegiance to the Constitution. All else is secondary.
Sgt and Mrs. Darby, I wish you well and God Speed.
Manuel Serrano HM3
3/7-1 - Reply to this comment
- re: Sgt. Joseph Darby:
As a combat vet, Republic of Viet Nam,1967-68 and a proud VFW member, I congratulate Sgt. Darby for his courage.
As a combat vet, Republic of Viet Nam,1967-68 and a proud VFW member, I am ashamed of the VFW Post that would not defend the Constitution and therefore the soldiers fighting under that sacred document.
As members of the United States Armed Forces, we pledge allegiance to the Constitution. All else is secondary.
Sgt and Mrs. Darby, I wish you well and God Speed.
Manuel Serrano HM3
3/7-1 - Reply to this comment
- re: Sgt. Joseph Darby:
As a combat vet, Republic of Viet Nam,1967-68 and a proud VFW member, I congratulate Sgt. Darby for his courage.
As a combat vet, Republic of Viet Nam,1967-68 and a proud VFW member, I am ashamed of the VFW Post that would not defend the Constitution and therefore the soldiers fighting under that sacred document.
As members of the United States Armed Forces, we pledge allegiance to the Constitution. All else is secondary.
Sgt and Mrs. Darby, I wish you well and God Speed.
Manuel Serrano HM3
3/7-1 - Reply to this comment
- Reading these comments is a very sad thing. I am dismayed, disgusted, and flabbergasted at those who think it is alright to humiliate and torture prisoners. Have you all forgotten that these prisoners who were presented to the public as vicious war criminals were simply released after all of these atrocities came to light? Clearly, there was little evidence on them to begin with. However, that said, it is never permissible to treat another human being in such a way. What if those were our men in someone else's prison? America used to be the nation that set the standard for humanity. Since the Bush administration, we are known throughout the world for our brutality and bullying of other countries. I suppose it was alright for those soldiers to go into that building and shoot all of those unarmed civilians, too. Just because they are wearing a uniform does not make them all heroes. The majority of the servicemen and women are just that. However, some of them, just like some of us, are horrible, cruel individuals who joined the service so that they could have the sheer pleasure of legally torturing or killing people. Shame on all of you who think it's loyalty to turn your head when you see things like this. Perhaps you should move to Iraq or Iran or Darfur where these things are looked upon as patriotic. I am very proud of you, Joe. You can live in my town any day.
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- God bless Joe Darby. If we had more people like him in the world who were willing to bring atrocities to light I think we would all be better off. Shame on his "friends" and "family members" who have turned against him, I would be honored to have him live in my town.
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- Bravo to Joe Darby. It's to bad that he had to be put in this position in the first place. Unfortunetely, the real culprits are still running free and doing what they've always have been doing. How much longer do the American and Iraqi people have to endure the unjustified sacrifices being made for reasons that are as invisible as the people that are controlling the offensive.
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- where was the outrage when they captured our soldiers and did what they did to them? I could care less what happens to this man, to go to the press is like going to the pimp with this.
shame on 60 minutes. - Reply to this comment
- Again, I wish to say, that the comments placed here, by me, were as sanitized as possible.
as, due to reporting " WAR CRIMES ", I was, as an American Service person. repeatedly Imprisoned in Brig, and then on to "Secret" prisons in Asia and pacific. NEVER charged, given represenative, have hearing or trial.
was however given pick and shovel, at 100 +
in shorts and tshirt. to dig ditches. we, as I was not alone, were given food altered by liquid and solid human waste. NOT given matress, blanket, pillow, or anything but out under shorts. no toilet in the solitary cells. the light on for days, then off for same. when human waste got too smelly for the goons, they took hire hoses and a cup of detergent thrown into cell, and blasted clean. real water park for the solitary prisoner. then for hygene, they often took me, and handcuffed me to the shower head. Oh, this was for hours, and at times at night, where we were allowed to hang in cold water, in the dead of winter nights. they used clubs and metal folding chairs for beatings, at times, I was taken in leg irons, and cuffs, and chained to metal chair outside, under high intensity light, at night. well, I got to meet all the biting species of insect. however, there were MURDERS of americans, by americans, in the secret prisons. - Reply to this comment
- Bravo to Joe Darby. He is a true American patriot. Like General Tagaba, Mr. Darby has been scapegoated for doing his duty and telling uncomfortable truths to the Bush Administration--under whose leadership our military has degenerated into rapists and torturers. We must rclaim the moral high ground. Repeating the actions of Saddam Hussein under the pretext of war is not the American way.
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- As you report, the commander of the local (Cumberland, MD) VFW post told "60 Minutes" that Joe Darby's actions were borderline traitor. Unfortunately, that VFW commander had the gall to sit in front of an American flag while spouting such un-American nonsense. In my opinion, Joe Darby's actions were in every sense heroic, courageous, and profoundly American, in the best sense of the word. --
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- When I saw this show last night it confirmed what I have been thinking for quite some time. Common decency, morals, integrity, ethics are almost a thing of the past. Mr. Darby did the RIGHT THING. What is our society coming to if you are thinking otherwise. When people speak out against what Mr. Darby did I cannot help but think of the Bush administration and think about all of the *** they have pulled for the last few years. The money and power people now control our country thru elected officials - your local, state and federal elected officials no more listen to you, the people, than a man in the moon - they only have ears for money elitists. I for one, say GOOD JOB, MR. DARBY - I salute you and will support you to the hilt because you represent the values I so respect.
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- I am a citizen of Cumberland and I want to go on the record as saying the City of Cumberland is a great place to live and is a supportive community. Mr. Darby is NOT from Cumberland Maryland but lived in Hyndman Pennsylvania so how is he a native of Cumberland when he lived in another state and graduated from Hyndman High School. I have never served in a branch of the military but if I had I would think I would be loyal to my fellow servicemen/women. How come America doesn't reflect back on 9-11 when an issue arises between America and our enemy. I'm not a malicious person and I am sure I wouldn't have participated in that type of behavior but I know one thing, I would have handled it quite different. At any rate, Mr. Darby was never run out of town which wasn't HIS town anyway.
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- Bravo, Mr.Darby. You are the face of America that I want to see out there; not the face of lowlife perpetrators of stupid, vile, juvenile stunts at the expense of other human beings.
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- In 1962 the Air Force Academy's Honor Code stated that "I will not lie, cheat or steal OR tolerate among me those that do. Darby is dead on correct, an honorable man and a patriot. The offenders are the low grade traitors for having exposed the honor of their division's men and the US to the ridicule of the world.
Is Darby's family well cared for or can/should we financially suport? If so. please advise how.
Scott Eaton - Reply to this comment
- Oh yeah, ignore all the negative feedback you read or hear about. The postives far outweight the negative ones!
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- You and your family are in our prayers. Continue to hold your head high. What great courage it took on your part to do what you did. There aren't any words that can express the gratitude I feel for standing up for what you felt was the right thing to do. Truky, a hereo in this country!
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- But the risk is life or death. THERE ARE NO RULES. Just one goal - survival by beating the enemy. Whatever it takes. We humbled and embarrassed the enemy. Big deal. We didn't shove bamboo shoots under their fingernails. Wake up. Get in the real world.
Posted by firstmarc at 10:04 PM : Jun 24, 2007
Fascist like this make me sick!! We are supposed to be about the Animals that shove bamboo shoots under people's fingernails. That's why WE AMERCIAN's were up front in creating the rules the entire world lives by. It's a violation of INTERNATIONAL LAW to do what these people did, International Law championed by and carried out by AMERICA before the Southern Nazi's took power. Sieg Heil Bush! - Reply to this comment
- Yeah, Darby did the right thing. But those who equate a pyramid of naked men with gas chambers, beheadings, genocide, and mass extermination are lowlife scumbag slanderers.
Posted by fixitdamnit at 01:31 AM : Jun 25, 2007
Are you REALLY that ignorant? Do you think the Gas Chambers was the FIRST action by the fascist against Jews? NO! It was a process to lower them to a position of sub human in the minds of the public. A process used by the German Leaders AND I might add the leaders of Southern States in the 40's and 50's that caused people to look upon people who were "different" as not being truly human. Thus when the Gas Chambers were introduced there was no reason for someone to "out" those that did the crime. Sieg Heil Bush! - Reply to this comment

