NEW YORK, Nov. 17, 2006

McCain Vs. Giuliani: Tale Of The Tape

How The Top 2 GOP Contenders For The White House Stack Up

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(CBS)  By CBSNews.com's Joel Roberts



It's still 14 months before the Iowa caucuses, but already two heavyweight contenders have emerged in the 2008 Republican presidential battle: Sen. John McCain and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Recent polls by USA Today/Gallup and CNN put the pair far ahead of the Republican pack, with Giuliani holding a two-point lead over McCain. Polls also show the two men in a dead heat with the apparent Democratic frontrunner, Hillary Clinton.

Of course, there's a long, long way to go until the primaries and serious obstacles remain in both men's paths, chiefly their ability to appeal to the conservative wing of the GOP.

Also, there are plenty of other GOP wannabes out there, but none can match McCain and Giuliani when it comes to national name recognition, fundraising ability or star quality. And until one of those contenders emerges from the pack, it looks like a mano a mano between the "maverick" senator from Arizona and the New Yorker dubbed "America's mayor."

Here, then, a primer on the two early Republican frontrunners we'll no doubt be learning a lot more about in the months ahead:

John S. McCain III
Born: Aug. 29, 1936 in Panama Canal Zone, Panama

Rudolph W. "Rudy" Giuliani
Born: May 28, 1944, Brooklyn, N.Y.

Education:
  • McCain: Graduated U.S. Naval Academy, 1958.
  • Giuliani: Attended Manhattan College, graduated New York University Law School 1968.

    Family:
  • McCain: Married to Cindy Lou Hensley. Has seven children and four grandchildren. First marriage to Carol Shepp ended in divorce.
  • Giuliani: Married to Judith Nathan. Has two children from a marriage to TV personality Donna Hanover, which ended in divorce, and one stepdaughter. First marriage was annulled.

    Religion:
  • McCain: Episcopalian
  • Giuliani: Catholic

    Political Experience:
  • McCain: U.S. senator, 1986-present; U.S. congressman, 1982-1986.
  • Giuliani: Mayor of New York City, 1994-2001; U.S. Attorney for Southern District of New York, 1983-1989.

    Past campaign stumbles:
  • McCain: Unsuccessful candidate for Republican presidential nomination in 2000, losing to George W. Bush after scoring early victory in New Hampshire primary.
  • Giuliani: Withdrew as candidate for U.S. Senate in 1998, against Democrat Hillary Clinton, after announcing he had prostate cancer and amid highly public divorce. Lost first mayoral bid in New York to incumbent David Dinkins in 1989 before defeating him four years later.

    The Issues:
  • McCain: Conservative on social issues such as abortion and gun control; led bipartisan initiatives on campaign finance reform, immigration reform and lobbying reform; longtime crusader for ending pork-barrel spending; strong supporter of Iraq war who has called for sending more U.S. troops to help crush the insurgency.
  • Giuliani: Supports gun control, same-sex unions, abortion rights and comprehensive immigration reform; strong on crime and defense issues; supporter of President Bush on Iraq war.

    Strengths
  • McCain: A "maverick" senator who's been willing to buck the party establishment; a war hero who spent five years as a POW during the Vietnam War; strong military and national security credentials; experience in the highest halls of power; national name recognition; proven fund-raising ability; spent past election season campaigning hard for GOP candidates around the country; a conservative with appeal to independents.
  • Giuliani: Led New York City revival in the 1990s, when crime was dramatically reduced; won international acclaim for handling of 2001 terrorist attack on World Trade Center, when he became widely known as "America's mayor"; untarnished by ties to defeated Republican Congress; has no voting record in Congress to defend; can run as a true Washington outsider; has potential appeal to independents and Democrats; spent past election season campaigning hard for GOP candidates around the country; national name recognition; gives GOP rare chance to win New York's 31 electoral votes.

    Liabilities:
  • McCain: His age — he'll be 72 when the next president is sworn in; he alienated many evangelicals during the 2000 campaign, when he referred to Jerry Falwell and others as "agents of intolerance," though he has since backed off those remarks; was named in the late '80s in the Keating Five savings and loan scandal; reputed to have a short temper; though seen as a maverick, he's long been a part of the unpopular Congress; a longtime Washington insider.
  • Giuliani: Limited federal government experience; limited foreign policy experience; may be considered too liberal by GOP's conservative base; his health — prostate cancer forced him to pull out of 1998 Senate race, though he's made a full recovery; sometimes seen in mayoral years as short-tempered and egotistical; marital problems in past; he's a New Yorker.

    The Bush Factor:
  • McCain: Ran against George W. Bush in 2000, then strongly supported him four years later; has frequently been a thorn in the president's side in the Senate, opposing Mr. Bush's 2001 tax cuts and successfully fighting for Geneva Convention rules in the detention of terrorist suspects this year.
  • Giuliani: Has been seen as a strong ally of the president.

    Author credits:
  • McCain: "Why Courage Matters: The Way to a Braver Life," 2004; "Worth Fighting For, A Memoir," 2002; "Faith of My Fathers," 1999.
  • Giuliani: "Leadership," 2002.

    Screen credits;
  • McCain: Cameo in "Wedding Crashers," 2005.
  • Giuliani: Cameo in "Anger Management," 2003.

    Television credits:
  • McCain: Hosted "Saturday Night Live," 2002.
  • Giuliani: Hosted "Saturday Night Live," 1997.

    Played Them In The TV Movie:
  • McCain: Actor Shawn Hatosy cast as young Navy pilot John McCain in 2005 film version of "Faith of My Fathers."
  • Giuliani: James Woods played the New York mayor in 2003 biopic, "Rudy: the Rudy Giuliani Story."

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    by raffaviv November 17, 2006 10:04 AM PST
    and Both are guilty of adultry!
    sends one hell of a message to the american voters!
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    by marcodele November 17, 2006 10:04 AM PST
    McCain has often been the rebel voice, then always rolls over on his back and reverses his opinion.

    I'm still trying to figure out why Guiliani is a hero and a leader. What would any mayor have done on 9/11? I guess the fact he didn't book the first flight to the Bahamas is a sign of leadership. Everything Bush and Guiliani promised the New York firefighters was later retracted.

    These clowns better save their money until Jeb Bush decides whether or not he wants the title: he has first rights of refusal, and he'll campaign for the evangelist vote and the far right conservative base that was supposedly abandoned. His coked out daughter and drunken son will campaign with him through the "family value" states. That's a sure fire win with the bible belt.
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    by whoneedsbush November 17, 2006 10:32 AM PST
    McCain is a flip-flopper and Giuliani is a Nazi. Rudy had 7 and a half years of restrictive governing in NYC before 9-11. He oppressed art and music, and inspired more lawsuits against the city than the city had EVER seen.

    Oh, and marodele, I hope you are kidding about Jeb, otherwise you're an idiot. Scroll up and notice the section called "Bush Factor". AKA how much of a liability Bush's unpopularity will be for each candidate. JEB SHARES HIS LAST NAME! You can 't get more Bush factor than that. Although I think Jeb is an idiot, I don't think he is stupid enough to actually run.
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    by whoneedsbush November 17, 2006 10:32 AM PST
    McCain is a flip-flopper and Giuliani is a Nazi. Rudy had 7 and a half years of restrictive governing in NYC before 9-11. He oppressed art and music, and inspired more lawsuits against the city than the city had EVER seen.

    Oh, and marodele, I hope you are kidding about Jeb, otherwise you're an idiot. Scroll up and notice the section called "Bush Factor". AKA how much of a liability Bush's unpopularity will be for each candidate. JEB SHARES HIS LAST NAME! You can 't get more Bush factor than that. Although I think Jeb is an idiot, I don't think he is stupid enough to actually run.
    Reply to this comment
    by whoneedsbush November 17, 2006 10:34 AM PST
    McCain is a flip-flopper and Giuliani is a Nazi. Rudy had 7 and a half years of restrictive governing in NYC before 9-11. He oppressed art and music, and inspired more lawsuits against the city than the city had EVER seen.

    Oh, and marodele, I hope you are kidding about Jeb, otherwise you're an idiot. Scroll up and notice the section called "Bush Factor". AKA how much o
    f a liability Bush's unpopularity will be for each candidate. JEB SHARES HIS LAST NAME! You can 't get more Bush factor than that. Although I think Jeb is an idiot, I don't think he is stupid enough to actually run.
    Reply to this comment
    by whoneedsbush November 17, 2006 10:37 AM PST
    McCain is a flip-flopper and Giuliani is a Nazi. He had 7 and a half years of restrictive governing in NYC before 9-11. He oppressed art and music, and inspired more lawsuits against the city than the city had EVER seen.

    Oh, and marodele, I hope you are kidding about Jeb, otherwise you're an idiot. Scroll up and notice the section called "Bush Factor". AKA how much of a liability Bush's unpopularity will be for each candidate. JEB SHARES HIS LAST NAME! You can 't get more Bush factor than that. Although I think Jeb is an idiot, I don't think he is stupid enough to actually run.
    Reply to this comment
    by getcentered November 17, 2006 10:41 AM PST
    WHERE'S THE FIGHT, MEDIA!

    The foolish media for the last 5 days has been pushing this idea that the Democrats are already fighting amongst each other, but they were not.

    How come the media didn't drag these two and the GOP into some "perceived" conflict?
    When and how does the media CHOOSE to sensationalize a story?

    Hmmmm..........
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    by osidebear November 17, 2006 11:10 AM PST
    Neither of these guys should make Republicans optimistic. McCain will look like a geezer next to just about any of the leading Democratic candidates, and Giuliani is a non-starter with the far-right Republican base because of his (sensible) positions on abortion and civil unions. I doubt that either one will get the nomination.
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    by oleander8 November 17, 2006 11:16 AM PST
    McCain had great appeal in the 2000 election - I wonder where we would be right now if he had been elected - it's a shame he was railroaded out by the Repubs agenda. This time around he's starting to sound like a politician that will compromise his principles to get a vote.

    Giuliani is TOTALLY unqualified.
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    by chuchuzinho-2009 November 17, 2006 11:46 AM PST
    Get Behind Al Gore! He received more votes than bush in 2000, he recently showed in anti bush speaches that he grew some gonads and he is experienced and smart! GO GORE! But, not liberman for vp, oh no...
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    by blondmadison November 17, 2006 12:09 PM PST
    marcodele

    Hilarious Blog!! Can't stop laughing!

    When Hilary runs for office against these jerkbags-- she will blow McCain, Guiliani and Jebthro off the trail.

    The republicans better come up with something good or we're all going down if Hilary Liar-Mouth Psychopath--clinging to Billies coattails for a career gets in office. What a nightmare.
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    by blondmadison November 17, 2006 12:16 PM PST
    I am not a Republican or a Democrat, both parties have alienated me. But Hilary is by far of the worst order. She is a nasty _________. She didn't stay married for love or because she believes in the institution of marriage.

    She stayed because she was building a career out of --her liaison with Mr. Clinton. Sick, userous, full of lies and fake smiles and fake behavior---FOR A PRESIDENTIAL POSITION? Oh Gawd. This is a sick country if she gets in.
    This is a sick country either way---but worse if the sick support a faked out psychopath.
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    by gwagener November 17, 2006 12:17 PM PST
    Neither one has even a remote chance at being nominated. The consevative base will dominate the nomination process as usual.
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    by htownjesse November 17, 2006 12:17 PM PST
    So this is all the neocons have to vote for now, huh? This will be a bloodbath for them both, neither has what it takes to win the White House, let em run and get their rear ends kicked.
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    by luvny-2009 November 17, 2006 12:24 PM PST
    BlondMadison clinging to Billies coattails for a career gets in office. ....Kinda like W'ya did you mean?
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    by davidwayne20 November 17, 2006 12:24 PM PST
    GO HILLARY!
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    by random_radar November 17, 2006 12:56 PM PST
    If I were fishing and caught McCain and Giuliani, I would throw them back and get fresh bait.
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    by hangelle November 17, 2006 12:57 PM PST
    Neither has a shot at getting the republican nomination. The 'base' won't allow it. They are wasting their and our time.
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    by ajaxrose1 November 17, 2006 1:05 PM PST
    As long as we get a Republican, I really don't care who it is.
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    by wiredadam03 November 17, 2006 1:06 PM PST
    hilary already had four years in office. giuliani would bring some fresh views to the white house
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    by gslinger3 November 17, 2006 1:14 PM PST
    So this is all the neocons have to vote for now, huh? This will be a bloodbath for them both, neither has what it takes to win the White House, let em run and get their rear ends kicked.
    Posted by htownjesse

    This is obviously a rant the reaks of ignorance!

    GOP=We take it all back in 08!!!!!
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    by tinker3478 November 17, 2006 1:26 PM PST
    wiredadam03, your math is no better than your logic. Go Big John! Given the choice of you and Howard or John Kerry, I might have to swim the ocean and crossover vote.
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    by mjv2944 November 17, 2006 2:05 PM PST
    Couldn't vote for either one. One is just a slickass politician, the other one from New York. Hope the dems find someone other than Hillary, as I don't think she is electable. Could be interesting if some unknown pops up with some fresh ideas and no old political, rehashed dem and repub bullsh*t. We need new and fresh faces and ideas.
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    by BrandoPolo November 17, 2006 2:11 PM PST
    CBS forgot to mention McCain's main weakness: he's got more flip-flops than a surf shop. He once called Falwell, Inc. evil, now he supports intelligent design and is cozying up to Liberty U. Giuliani is a sleazly NYC Tammany Hall type that will not play south of the Mason Dixie and anywhere near the Mississippi River. Yikes, this is all the GOP has to offer? John "The Pander Bear" McCain, and Rudy "More Liberal than the Democrats" Giuliani??? These are the frontrunners for the "conservative" party? Sad, sad, sad. How happy are Hillary, Obama, and Wesley Clark these days? Moreover, how happy is the center left: no matter which party wins, they get a Democrat!
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    by perception5 November 17, 2006 2:16 PM PST
    John McCain would be great and I think he would take California....... but...... I would like to know a lot more about Mit Rommeny...... very interesting fellow.... smart and good looking..
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    by nolalou November 17, 2006 2:40 PM PST
    To get the Republican nomination, these guys would have to win enough primaries. Since in most states, only registered Republicans can vote in the Republican primary, and since the most conservative 'religious right' wing of the party turn out in large numbers for the primaries, Giuliani has no chance. His 'pro choice' stand on abortion and pro 'civil union' stand for gay couples will sink him with that group.

    ozilot, you said they should wait a least a year before the presidential election before they start campaigning. Well, 1st come the primaries, and those start in late January of 2008, just a little over a year from now!
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    by adventurepa November 17, 2006 2:41 PM PST
    Guliani is going to be the best choice because he stepped up to the plate on 9/11 and showed he was willing to get his hands dirty with the common American.
    He showed he is a leader.

    Not qualified to be president?
    Who really is?

    I don't know if America would vote Hilary or Obama to the whitehouse.
    Dem's need to produce a leader and support him to run against Guliani if they want to win in 08.

    The best bet for the republicans is to take notice of Arnold and the way Califorina voted.
    Guliani is the best candidate they have.

    And I'm a Dem and would probably vote for Guliani.
    He seems like a no-none sense kind of guy.
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    by mwitten2 November 17, 2006 2:44 PM PST
    Barack Obama will be the 44th President of the United States. His new book is excellent and his vision for America compelling. He knows what problems we face and has good ways to fix these problems. The "Straight Talk" John McCain of 2000 morphed into a Bush "toady". Additionally, I don't believe the Republican party has been punished enough for the folly of the Iraq War and remember that John McCain wants to increase troop levels in the "cesspool of Iraq"!
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    by santo_marco November 17, 2006 3:01 PM PST
    When is Colin Powell going to run for President?
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    by gwagener November 17, 2006 3:15 PM PST
    Santo_Marco,
    Colin Powell will never run for president.
    A gay Muslim abortion doctor could beat any black person in a Republican primary in most southern states as long as he was agianst gun control.
    Don't look for Condi Rice to ever run for the same reason.
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    by tibu987 November 17, 2006 3:40 PM PST
    Me, I am waiting for Donald Duck or Popeye to enter the race so I can vote for a qualified candidate. Unfortunately, Spiderman and Batman are too busy fighting crime.
    'Nuff said.
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    by gunnerv1 November 17, 2006 3:50 PM PST
    I think they both suck! Open up a new can of Candidates, this one has gone bad while sitting on the shelf.
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    by tibu987 November 17, 2006 3:51 PM PST
    Barack Obama lost me when I came to know of his relationships with some very bad bedfellows. He is close with the Stroger family of Chicago, a corrupt and despotic group, his relationship with indicted political favors buying Tony Rezko from whom he bought some property and is his next door neighbor. His association with the corrupt regime of Rod Blagojevich, the Governor of Illinois, whose motto is, "not business as usual". Yeah, right.
    That, along with his lack of political experience is enough for me not to vote for him.
    All I am saying is do your homework before 2008.
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    by hangelle November 17, 2006 4:14 PM PST
    Are you saying the Bush family has no questionable connections in politics or business. You've gotta be kidding! Or are you doing the Obama swift boating for those right-wing nutjobs?
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    by davidwayne20 November 17, 2006 4:25 PM PST
    Posted by tibu987
    "Me, I am waiting for Donald Duck or Popeye"

    TRIBU987, they are already in office, two more years!
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    by trublutexn November 17, 2006 4:39 PM PST
    gwagener

    I don't know where you're from but as a Southern Republican, I would vote for Condi tomorrow if we had a primary. Her skin color has nothing to do with her qualifications to be president. Why would you paint most Southern Republicans as racists? Are you biased against the southern states and assume we're all bubba racists?
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    by November 17, 2006 4:51 PM PST
    Seems like both contenders have had past problems. That conflects with good common sense which Democrats don't have either. One the the greatest stricks against the Demograts is passing laws permitting the murder of innocent unborn babies and extremely bad morals on family matters. We need good strong canditates who will protect the unborn and promote strong moral christian values.
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    by tibu987 November 17, 2006 5:16 PM PST
    Condileeza Rice does not now, nor has she ever belonged in politics. Rice is an academic with an academics view of the world. It is obvious that she is simply a shill for Bush.
    Ms. Rice. who certainly was never taken seriously by foreign powers, would do everyone a favor by returning to academia.
    Politics is not her forte and she would be eaten alive by both Dems and Repubs.
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    by gwagener November 17, 2006 5:39 PM PST
    trublutexn,
    I exaggerate of course, but be realistic, there are enough southern Republicans who vote based on race that Colin and Condi have no chance.
    Condi in particular has no chance. The attack ads write themselves. She was instrumental in getting us into an unpopular invasion and mismanaging the aftermath. Everything she has touched as Secretary of State has gotten worse. Now that may or may not be her fault, but you can bet the attack ads would paint the failing as her fault.
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    by sandy5274 November 17, 2006 6:16 PM PST
    OMG Please Vote For The Energizer Bunny who will
    Keep Going And Going And Going Until The Bunny
    Solves All Our Problems! Well isn't the Energizer
    Bunny a much better choice then Jeb,Or Rudy,
    Or Condoleezza Or Amnesty John McCain? Or,even
    Hillary,or Barak and more honest too,honestly
    here ya'll now? Or,do I get my place on the
    ballot to vote,"For None Of The Above" now?...
    I wouldn't vote for any of those losers you
    want folks as that's just like "Bush & Cheney
    Light!" God what a bunch of losers!
    Reply to this comment
    by valendug November 17, 2006 7:17 PM PST
    Do we have to make a choice? One's ready to croak, the other rich from 9/11 theft.
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    by adian1-2009 November 17, 2006 7:44 PM PST
    None of both is good for our country, period. Giuliani is incompetent; McCain is an opportunist lacking the integrity that the Presidency of the United States demands.
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    by tinker3478 November 17, 2006 8:09 PM PST
    "One the the greatest stricks against the Demograts is passing laws permitting the murder of innocent unborn babies and extremely bad morals on family matters. We need good strong canditates who will protect the unborn and promote strong moral christian values.
    Posted by pojar1"

    The Republicans have had 6 years to fix that problem. Does anyone down in the ranks of their own party wonder why they haven't done that?
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    by tibu987 November 17, 2006 8:23 PM PST
    Here is my "skinny" on Presidential candidates.
    In their megalomania they feel they are omnipotent and so in love with themselves are they, that they expect that people, the voting public, also feels that way about them. NOT.
    What happens, is that many millions of dollars are spent by people hanging on to their coattails in hopes of hitting the big time.
    But what really happens is that the voters (most), think that they are full of BS which is, of course, true.
    The dangerous side of this is that sometimes they are actually get elected, i.e., Johnson, Reagan, Carter, Clinton, Ford, "W", and at a governatorial level, Schwartzenegger, Ventura, and many others too numerous to mention here.
    As an old time pol with a lot of political experience said:

    I have come to the conclusion that politics are too serious a matter to be left to the politicians.
    Charles De Gaulle (1890 - 1970)

    Nice quote Charlie, thanks.
    'Nuff said.
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    by fascistusa November 17, 2006 10:08 PM PST
    Wow. They are already selling us on our TWO Presidental 2008 Republinazi candidates.

    Nope, we're not a FASCIST NATION with PURE PROPOGANDA for "NEWS".
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    by im3000 November 18, 2006 2:14 AM PST
    Giuliani represents everything that is wrong with America. He would still be a nobody without the tragedies of 2001. He uses, needs, and encourages terror on our people to further his power, like some other politicos we know. A vote for him is a vote for terror.
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    by mnbluestater November 18, 2006 6:33 AM PST
    I am an independent but usually vote Democratic. Guiliani would make a terrific President! Take the time to read his biography http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/rwg/html/bio.html
    Anyone who could clean up NYC after the disastrous years of Lindsay, Koch, Dinkins (remember when NYC went BROKE?), get rid of drug dealers in the parks, clean up the porn and *** theatres in Times Square, get people off of welfare (there were 1 in 7 people on welfare when he first took office). As US District Attorney in the 1980's he took on the mafia-controlled garbage haulers, wholesale foods industry and fish market industry. On 9/11 he showed the nation his ethics and leadership and as for me, I think he's got balls of steel. He's a moderate when this country needs a moderate, not some conservative re-tread like McCain. I am voting for him, and the election is still two years away.
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    by mnbluestater November 18, 2006 6:34 AM PST
    I am an independent but usually vote Democratic. Guiliani would make a terrific President! Take the time to read his biography http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/rwg/html/bio.html
    Anyone who could clean up NYC after the disastrous years of Lindsay, Koch, Dinkins (remember when NYC went BROKE?), get rid of drug dealers in the parks, clean up the porn and *** theatres in Times Square, get people off of welfare (there were 1 in 7 people on welfare when he first took office). As US District Attorney in the 1980's he took on the mafia-controlled garbage haulers, wholesale foods industry and fish market industry. On 9/11 he showed the nation his ethics and leadership and as for me, I think he's got balls of steel. He's a moderate when this country needs a moderate, not some conservative re-tread like McCain. I am voting for him, and the election is still two years
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    by fascistusa November 18, 2006 7:40 AM PST
    Yay! I'm completely braindead. Talk Show Host Guilini seems like the best candidate next to Captain Crunch MCCain!

    I don't think they'll EVER find anyone TRULY qualified.

    Better pick one of these two dirtbags NOW!!
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    by librepubtxn November 18, 2006 2:40 PM PST
    Yep..I really AM a liberal Republican from Texas! Rarely seen or heard, we DO exist. Not always in favor of what 'W' says or does, we DO believe in FULL equality for ALL (race, religion, gender, sexual preference, etc) and NO preferential treatment for ANYONE (so-called Affirmative Action, minority/woman-owned contractors, etc.) nor giving ANY privileges to ILLEGAL immigrants, other than their right to be escorted to the porous border where they ILLEGALLY entered, along with a concentrated effort to seal the leak that let them in. I for one would not even extend to them the so-called "humanitarian" services we offer to CITIZENS and LEGAL immigrants; e.g., tax-supported emergency medical care, food, shelter, etc. Private charities may do as they wish, but without these giveaways, maybe we wouldn't NEED a controversial fence, or troops stationed at the borders. I support the recent ordinance passed by Farmers Branch, TX, with one exception: the mealy-mouthed politicians specifically EXCLUDED the original provision that made it a crime to EMPLOY illegals. That's a shameful cop-out! Withdrawal of this incentive for illegal border crossing is OBVIOUSLY the logical, most effective point to attack our illegal immigration problem. McCain vs Giuliani: let it be an INFORMED personal choice by ALL registered Republicans! I lean toward McCain, and AWAY from ANYTHING connected to NYC or the old-line power machines in the Northeast, but I might switch, if either Colin or Condi ran.
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