September 22, 2009 11:14 AM

The Two Democratic Parties

By
Jennifer Hoar
(Weekly Standard)  This column was written by Matthew Continetti.

On November 9, less than 48 hours after Democrats captured the House and a few hours before Sen. George Allen conceded defeat to James Webb, giving Democrats control of the Senate, President Bush had lunch at the White House with Democratic representatives Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer. In the brief photo opportunity following their meal, Bush played the gracious host. He twice thanked Pelosi and Hoyer for making the trip down Pennsylvania Avenue. He twice said the lunchtime conversation had been "constructive." And he twice congratulated Pelosi on her anticipated elevation to speaker of the House.

Pelosi, beaming, said she had offered Bush "the hand of friendship" and that the meeting had been "productive." She said she would work with the White House "in a confidence-building way" that "gets results." The two parties would debate the issues, she went on, but would also try to solve problems in a bipartisan manner. "We've made history," Pelosi said. "Now we have to make progress."

It was a fine sentiment, consonant with the view that last week's Democratic victory was essentially a rejection of the status quo in Washington and the conduct of American policy in Iraq. The electorate had voted to upend the balance of power and force change upon the capital. Whether the Democratic Congress will be able to bring change in a way that also broadens the party's appeal and bolsters its recent gains, no one knows. What seems plain, though, is that the greatest obstacle to future Democratic success is the Democrats themselves.

Over the next two years, there will be two Democratic parties. The congressional Democratic party will investigate the Bush administration and pass as much center-left legislation as possible. The presidential Democratic party, meanwhile — comprising aspirants to the executive office: Sens. Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Russ Feingold, and Barack Obama; former Sen. John Edwards; Govs. Bill Richardson and Tom Vilsack; perhaps Al Gore — will travel the country, raising money, holding debates, and laying the groundwork for a national campaign that might put one of them in the White House and (they hope) result in an era of unified Democratic control of government.

The great fear of some Democratic strategists is that the congressional party will behave in ways that alienate the independents who brought it to power, thus threatening the presidential party's chances for victory in 2008. "Will the presidential candidates in 2008 have to run away from the Democratic Congress, or will they be able to work together?" one think tank scholar asked last week. He thought the former more likely. And the congressional party's power structure and the nature of the incoming Democratic majority lend some support to his claim.



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by ressigmann November 15, 2006 11:25 AM EST
to fascistusa

America is not fascist, the proof is in the fact that you will not be arrested for posting that opinion. In a fascist government you would not even be given a forum to voice your views and you would probably dissapear quietly as a dissenter if this was fascist. For reference review the Nazi Germany for controling people and opinions. People who compare Bush with Hitler not withstanding, any fair minded person can find no real basis for comparison.
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by billpl-2009 November 15, 2006 2:41 AM EST
I hear you laud and clear ItchyBrain, but you have to reallize....
The rest of the silent majority feels the same way and they, my friend, will all vote only one way.

Rudy - 2008. He's unbeatable.

our prayers (pun indented) will be answered
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by fascistusa November 15, 2006 2:35 AM EST
America is FASCIST.

Our News is still PROPOGANDA. The Government only represents the Rich.

The typical American is just a SLAVE to the Rich with no hope of getting ahead. Where's Rocky Balboa when you need him?

The NEW boss. Same as the OLD boss.
- The Who.
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by itchybrain November 14, 2006 11:09 PM EST
Just what we need, a right wing neocon nincompoop pooping on the Democrats before they even take control. As an ex-Republican, now independent voter, I can say I've been much more alienated by the Republicans over the last 20 years or more (and especially the last 6 years), than I could ever have imagined. The Dems are much more towards the middle than the goose steppers on the right will ever allow themselves to be during these extremely weird times.

The Republicans have traded their real "base" for the neo-nazi neocons and other wackos (i.e. Jerry Fallwell, et al) because of their organizational skills and spin machines. Until they regain their sanity, this recovering Republican will be voting Democratic for the foreseeable future.

The American people have finally woken up to the Rovian scam perpetuated upon them in the name of the dead of 911. Until the Republicans learn that truth and justice belong to all Americans, and those who govern this country, govern us all, not just their base, they will remain out of power, and no amount of neocon pundit hand wringing will change that fact. They reaped what they have sown. So be it.

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by antoniof123 November 14, 2006 10:36 PM EST
You know I am tired of hearing about Clinton he will go down in history as a great President Bush will go down as being one of if not the worst President's in history. The Republicans have tried to blame everything that they did wrong on Clinton and it just isn't working anymore so please give it up. It may be true that the moderate Republicans lost but they stood united so these were the best places to start. If the Repbulicans don't change and they are called the stupid party maybe for a reason then in 2008 when more seats become available in the Senate they will loose more. I am sure they are not smart enough to realize this. The reason is read the Washington Times and you will see they the followers of the Republicans think that this is there chance to show that the Dem's will just be blamed. Of course I can not believe that anyone is left to believe this because of the mess that we are in now. But of course there are those that just are too stupid to know better.
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by getcentered November 14, 2006 8:19 PM EST

Some of the arguments in this article stink!
Matthew Continetti of the Weekly Standard writes above:

1. "The Democratic congressional leadership is untested."
He presses this point; but I would ask in the 12 YEARS that the GOP controlled congress, what did they do?

2. "Democrats had their largest gains in districts where a moderate-to-liberal Republican was replaced by a liberal Democrat."
I NEVER in the last 6 years heard of ANY moderate-to-liberal Republicans. All I know of the GOP/Republicans is that they were "united" as a big rubber stamp.

3. "The 2008 Democratic presidential nominee would then have room to tack right on national security, leading her to victory."
Who said a "she" was running? I don't think a woman could win a presidential election yet in this country. This is still "a man%u2019s world", don't be ignorant.

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by processor2 November 14, 2006 8:14 PM EST
THERE ARE(WERE) TWO DEMOCRAT PARTIES

Rather than comparing republicans vs. democrats (an argument which never goes anywhere),
let%u2019s instead compare democrat vs. democrat.....let%u2019s say Clinton vs. J.F. Kennedy.

The Clinton and current Democrat philosophy on governing/government is:

%u201CBig Government will provide for you%u201D, &
%u201CFrom cradle to grave, Big Government will take care of you%u201D, &
%u201CIt takes a Village%u201D (Big Government)

Whereas J.F. Kennedy said :
%u201CAsk not what your country can do for you, but rather what you can do for your country%u201D


These two philosophies (both democrat) are completely opposite of each other.

I would much rather be a J.F. Kennedy democrat than a Clinton/Pelosi socialist

J.F. Kennedy also instituted tax cuts on the top rates to spur a sluggish economy. (hmmmm%u2026%u2026.sounding familiar)

Sounds like the NeoCommies have hijacked a democrat party that I once knew and respected.

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by ademeyer November 14, 2006 6:25 PM EST
Sounds like a recipe for success to me! GO Dems!
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