A Fighting Chance

Scott Pelley On Combat Medicine And The Battle To Save Lives

(CBS)  Brad Fulks, the burned Marine from West Virginia, made it to Germany. Days later, he was well enough to fly to the Army Burn Center in Texas where he was reunited with his family. Dr. Dorlac says by that point, Fulks' care involved a dozen aircraft and maybe a thousand Air Force personnel.

"No one would want to, care to, put a price tag on this, but just to get a sense of the scope, it probably isn’t unreasonable to believe a million dollars was spent on this young man to save his life," Pelley remarks.

"I’d say that’s probably a good conservative number," Dorlac replies.

Still, all the effort wasn’t enough. Eighteen days after he was wounded, Brad Fulks, like many burn patients, lost his life to an infection, leaving behind his parents and two sisters.

For Kenny Lyon, it’s a different story – he got through his surgery. Within five days, he was back in the states. It has been hard and he has been lucky. Lyon was taken to the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C.

He’s working with an artificial leg, and has nerve damage in both arms. Part of his tongue is gone and a wire is holding his jaw together.

"How much do you think you're gonna get back?" Pelley asks.

"I'm gonna get everything back," Lyon says. "That's my goal right now. I'm gonna fight to retain everything I had before."

Asked how it feels to be in his skin right now, Lyon says, "I’m just happy. I love coming here every day and doing my therapy and pushing myself and every day I get stronger and better and faster and I can use my hands more and I’m having fun."

"You’re having fun?" Pelley asks.

"Why not? What else am I going to do? I might as well make the best of my situation. I mean I’m better I’m alive. It’s all down hill from here. It's all gravy."

Kenny Lyon joins nearly 9,000 Americans who have survived severe wounds in Iraq. The military says it’s the best survival rate in history. But Paulette Schank told 60 Minutes it's not the survivors she remembers so much as the patients she has lost. Like a sergeant who died a few months ago — one of those who never quite leaves her.

"You’ve been defeated, you know, you’ve let that person down on the table," Schank tells Pelley. "I still talk to them up there and say 'I need your strength with me today. Sergeant so-and-so, I really need your strength with me.' And I’ll say his name."

Schank says she remembers the names. At that point in the interview, the sound of a helicopter could be heard.

"And I’ll think of my sergeant," Schank adds, preparing for the next patient.

[a67672]

Col. Schank;
God Bless you and the heroic work you are doing!!!!
With out you and the other brave medical personnel in this and previous wars a lot of us would not be alive today.

[kevin67a-2009]

I noticed that your web site account of this latest celebration of casualties left out one word which sums up liberal-ignorance. When Mr. Pellie asks Dr. Rabie if he thinks it's worth it, Dr. Rabie says, "I think so."

It was at that moment when Mr. Pellie, the arrogant reporter who knows more than anyone, even those who spend more than a weekend in Baghdad, asks, "REALLY?!"

This "REALLY" was conveniently left out of the story when it was published on the CBS web site. Apparently, someone realized how ignorant it sounded.

The doctor continued by saying, "Not for %u2013 in this generation. Maybe for the next generation."

The doctor understands this. President Bush understands this. Conservatives understand this. But, the liberals who take our own freedom for granted can't even realize that this is exactly what our Founding Fathers knew... and did.

REALLY!!!

[njkirk]

I have worked with Lt. Col. Schank in a Philadelphia hospital as a civilian and just wanted to say that her position in Iraq is the same as I have experienced with her as a co-worker. She is extremely bright, warm and one of the most courageous CRNAs that I have been pleased to work beside. Her sense of faith and devotion are unparalleled. My prayers are always with you and all you touch. Nancy

[articreconxo]

As a severly wounded Iraq vet, It was amazing to see the process in which my life was saved, I personally had half my skull removed to allow my brain to swell after being hit by a suicide bomber, It's amazing how skilled all these medical personnel are and I thank them for saving my life, god bless them all.
CPT Mark Brogan
U.S. Army

[cherarch]

My husband is a civilian working for the Department of Defense who builds those military hospitals and ships out all of those military supplies. He puts together all of those first-aid kits they use everyday out in the field. He and his coworkers work 70 hours each week to ensure those supplies make it overseas. Your program today let them see first-hand how important their efforts are.
The military and civilian personnel are doing an awesome job of providing excellent care to our soldiers and civilians.
Thank you.

[vivian15-2009]

I was happy to see Steve Pelley's sory on 60 Minutes about Combat medics (part of a Dustoff crew) and surgeons, nurses who work so hard to save their patients. It's wonderful to see them being given the credit they deserve for their unselfish devotion to duty. Dustoff's motto:"When I Have Your Wounded" was uttered long ago in Vietnam by Maj. Charles Kelley who gave his life in doing his duty as did all the Dustoff crews in Vietnam including my husband a Dustoff helicopter pilot.Thanks again for recognizing the work of these unsung "heros".

[sillyca]

Now that you have seen these brave men and women in action, if you want to do something to help, go to www.soldiersangels.org. You could even sew or make a no-sew blanket to show one of these wounded soldiers some immediate love. Blankets of Hope.

[sillyca]

Now that you have seen these brave men and women in action, if you want to do something to help, go to www.soldiersangels.org. You could even sew or make a no-sew blanket to show one of these wounded soldiers some immediate love. Blankets of Hope.

[burgerbob2]

I don't know where you got your facts but in Vietnam the goal war from the battlefield to a military hospital closest to in 72 hours. I know I took a gernade outside quange tri and was in San Diego {Camp Pendleton} in 4 days. The equipment is better today but the Doctors and Nurses are just as brave and the chopper pilots just as brave. We also were sent straight to the U.S. not to Germany.

Kenny,
Thank you for the sacrifice that you have made for your country. You are an incredible person and a huge inspiration to all who saw your story. I wish I could shake your hand buddy.

[ls40095]

Scott,


I noticed in your piece the medivac helicopter flying into a roadside bomb incident.

The vehicle you see as the helicopter lands is A Cougar.

Do you know what a Cougar or a Buffalo is?

They are the best armored vehicle in the world. NOT ONE FATALITY since these vehicles were put into service but everyday you hear about these poor kids being blown up in Humvees...

Why does the government continue to award contracts to other defense contractors to up-amour humvee death traps while it is quite clear what every red blooded American would want their kid driving the streets of Iraq in?

Does this sound like a future 60 minutes piece?

It should be.

[angelicar-2009]

I was so moved by this program, our troops are so brave and so compassionate. As a flaming liberal who believes that we should be in Iraq and Afghanistan to re-build their infastructure; this was a moving piece of film that focused on the healing, the bravery and the sense of duty our military has for each other and the people of Iraq. It was a needed piece of positive energy that we need to see. Thank-you 60 minutes good job. God bless our troops.

[fightrpilot]

How dare you even intimate at the cost of surgery, transportation, etc when trying to save a member of our Armed Forces?

What a cheap shot. I'm guessing ABC shelled out at least that much to save Bob Woodward. And if you, Scott, had the guts to go in where the troops are going CBS would do the same for you if need be.

Wonder if it would be worth it to them?

[emhawks]

God bless our troops! God bless the doctors, nurses & medics who are trying to save them! I wish Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld could spend a month a one of these battlefield hospitals.

[hillt4]

I was very impressed with Scott Pelly's piece, "A Fighting Chance." Scott Pelly's story on combat medicine and the battle to save lives was very emotional. Scott did a great job! We need more stories showing the realities of war.

Thank you,
Tim

[bluestardad]

GOD rides with Dust Off.

[amayeszing]

Kenny Lyons is to be recognized for his positive outlook. I don't know many citizens who wouldn't come away from his situation angry and hostile toward the USA. Thank you for presenting this uplifting young man. He is to be commended!

[markdnscr986]

I find it somewhat disquieting that the first responders ( Fleet Marine Force Corpsman ) that are in the field, taking care of "their" Marines were not even accorded a mention in this broadcast. Without their bravery, skill and dedication, most of these severely wounded Marines would not even live long enough to see the Medevacs. Come on CBS, you can do better than that. Tell the entire story, next time!

[tjeamje]

Excellent story and coverge. A couple of things stood out in the story. The first is the extraordinary amount of resources (money) used to save the lives of our brave soldiers and marines. Every penny is worth it. How ironic , though, that after these servicemen and women are treated and rehab'd, they are medically boarded out of the service and left to their own devices to put their lives back together. The other striking feature of the story was the apparent melt down that Lt.Col Paulette Schank was experiencing. I hope she is recieving appropriate emotional support and mental health counseling for the PSTD that seemed to be written all over her face. God Bless.

[jaydaur]

To all those in the military,
I am Kenny Lyon's aunt, I would like to thank all of you for committing to do a great job .... above and beyond what can only be described as miraculous.
God bless you all for your awesome caring work.
Thank you for saving Kenny's life, for not giving up no matter what. Kenny is a true Marine and felt he was just doing his job, but with such a great attitude I know he is an inspiration to others. His humor is God-given.
My heart goes out to those you were unable to save. May God bring comfort and strengthen.
I continue to thank the Lord for our wonderful military - I pray for all of you every day, and only regret I can't thank each of you personnally.
Thank you !!

[metalle1]

Great sincere look into the faces of the dedicated. This is the best I've seen on 60 minutes. Praise God for our military and all who are attached to them. My son is in the US Navy and I admire courage wherever I find it. Good job, CBS and Scott Pelley, I appreciate it.

David Maynard
Drummond, MT

[chriszer]

The Sunday Night 10/29/06 segment talking to Paulette Schank, Lieutenant Colonel, Air Force Reserve was one of the most moving articles I have ever watched on 60 Minutes. And I have been watching for a long, long time.

[sgastelum]

I was so moved on your story, "A Fighting Chance." I am a military supervisor for 1 of the 21 military blood donor centers who support the Armed Services Whole Blood Processing Laboratory mission. Our mission is to collect blood that gets sent to military installations who need it, and sometimes, it can be quite a challenge. While many donate blood on a regular basis, some have yet to donate and some are no longer eligible to donate. The military faces a 50% deferral rate for blood donors due to overseas travel and we are restricted to collecting blood on only government property. I really hope that our fellow Americans continue do donate blood since it is a vital, life-saving product. If anyone would like to donate blood to the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines and DoD employees who are fighting in military contingencies around the world, they can visit http://www.militaryblood.dod.mil/ to make an appointment in their nearest Armed Services Blood Donor Center. Seeing this story on TV really gives me hope and lets me know that I am not alone in saving lives. God Bless!
SFC Gastelum

[paublito-2009]

A couple of months ago it was brought to my attention the difficulty it was to get blood from outside DOD. As the President of a Union Local I called the Armed Services Blood Program Coordinator and offered to sponsor a donation day. She jumped at the chance to work with the Union and get blood for the troops. We believe it is the first time it has been done at our location. I was surprised as some of the questioning I received and lack of support from Active Duty Managers but none the less I was not going to allow them to become the enemy. The response by our civilian employees has far exceeded all expectations. I would encourage all to donate if you can and if you can%u2019t %u2013 say a prayer that the blood will not be needed.

[baf49-2009]

I am so pleased and proud to see this article.My son and daughter in law were seen in this video. They are Air Force surgical techs/medics who served in Iraq with Colonel Schank. I am extremely proud of all the medical personnel, soldiers and support personnel in Iraq and Afghanistan. Thank you for your dedication and caring and hard work. God Bless you and keep you all. Know that all of you are cared for and prayed for every day by moms, dads, grandparents, brothers, sisters, cousins, and friends. Thank you, again for publishing this article and video.

[airmaninoef]

Thank you America for your love and support. These men and women put their lives out on the line to save someone else's. God Bless them all.

Sister in Arms,

[bsmma1]

Thank you for providing and recognizing our Soldiers' Angels in the Combat Field Hospitals, Landstuhl Regional Medical Facility and the trauma unit in Balad. As a Massachusetts Chapter 1 Blue Star Mother of a son who has just returned from his second deployment in Iraq with the 101st Airborne, and as a member and officer of the first Massachusetts Chapter of Blue Star Mothers, I thank you. Although our Chapter is new, your story, "A Fighting Chance" hit home for all of us. Our main project from the month we were chartered (July 06)is what we have named "Operation Soldier Recovery". We are working with the Landstuhl Regional Medical Facility in providing transitional backpacks filled with basic toiletries, blankets of hope, and comfortable clothing for our sons and daughters who are brought into these hospitals from the battlefield wearing only their battle gear. We thank you for featuring this very moving story of our medical personnel in Germany and in the field, their care and dedication is beyond words. If your viewers contact you and ask how they can help, please ask them to contact the national or their state chapter of Blue Star Mothers. For our Massachusetts Chapter, it is a year long project, and one we hold close to our hearts. Thank you for your great work in providing such an important story to all your viewers. Our sons and daughters are the future veterans. Please continue to support them and keep them in your prayers.
Tina Veves, Secretary
BSM, MA Chapter 1

[bevmoon1]

I would just like to let the familes of Cpl Lyons and Cpl. Fulks know that they are all in my prayers. I am the mother of a Marine and he was injured in Iraq in Sept 2005. His injuries were not as severe as these young men but when your child is so far away and you get that call it is one of the most scariest moments in a parents life. I want to add my "Thank You" to these to young men for what they have done for our country. Could you please pass my prayers on to them.
Thank you,
bevmoon1

[rabbitsoup-2009]

I wish our President would commit himself to spending just one week-7 whole days-in this hospital camp and see our men's sufferings upfront and personal.He has time to go to every other country and "visit". Why not see this situation as it is? And could someone explain to him that this 3000 loss is probably equal to 10000 in Vietnam--with the marvelous advances in medicine we now have? Or just plain, knock some sense into him and bring our men and boys HOME NOW !! We need not loose one more if he would give into his pride and give up this "conflict"-which is no longer a war-just a daily unnecessary loss of lives of our loved ones. All for him to repeatedly tell us he will do as HE wants;not the people of this country. My tears are drying now. After watching about 10 minutes of the horrors of Iraq.

[kilmin04963]

I found Lt. Col. Paulette Schank very human, please tell her that not only does she have the sgt with her but I will pray for her too. I am sorry that she has to be in Iraq but I am glad that our boys have someone like her in their corner. Bless her and people like her that serve in our army.
Sincerely,
SRG

[cjrlebeaf]

What an excellent seqment! This hit close to home--my cousin was blown up by a rocket attack at a base in Iraq last month as he exited his Humvee. Dr.'s and medics from an aid station about 200m away were at his side in about two minutes and stopped the bleeding from his mangled limbs and stabilized him. They got him to the hospital at Balad quickly where their surgery team saved his limbs and excised the shrapnel from his neck. A day later he was moved to the Lohgstuhl Medical center inn Germany and two or three days after that he was moved to the Brooke Army Medical center at Fort Sam Houston, Tx. He has had about 7 separate surgeries but his arm wounds are now closed. A few more surgeries and his leg wounds will be closed. They are thinking that about about 3-6 months of rehab and he will regain most of the use of his limbs. In your segment, the doctor said,'We put a full-court press on for every one of our patients.' The helicopter medic said,'No one dies in the back of my helicopter; I breathe for them, I beat for them and as far as I am concerned, they are alive when they get to the hospital.' What an awesome, God fearing medical team we have assembled for our service personnel. My cousin is alive because of them!

[why_not_nar]

This was a great piece...and it gets to you. It should. To cost the life of just one these courageous soldiers....for what? These roadside devices mangle the body in a terrible way, Americans and Iraqis alike. No question that the American people who are there to help are simply amazing. And we should spend whatever it takes to save the life of any wounded American.

The journalism here provided new information, about what it really going on.
It made me think again about the war, with the following conclusion. The war was to topple the goverment...we did that...right or wrong...the government fell quickly. Having done that we became the occupying force...no different than in Europe after World War II. So, freedom, independance, hopefuly?, some day. But now, we either put enough resource in place to protect the civilian populate and rebuild the infrastructure. (like we did in Europe), OR, we get out. Not phased, we get out immediately.

We are a decent and wonderful people. Let's decide. This isn't Vietnam. Vietnam first expelled the invaders (us), and secondly was a minor civil war that we encouraged. Iraq is a major civil war. It isn't going to stop. Not today, not by the end of the summer, not in a year. It is simply to easy for a minority of the population to do horrible damage.

[why_not_nar]

So let's make a decision. We stay and occupy, return peace, and rebuild the infrastructure.
But let's do it right, and it isn't yet a committee. If we stay, we make decisions about how to distribute the oil to the factions, and have zero tolerance for violance of any kind. Maybe we still can make a lasting contribution to the area. And stabilize it. And then we gradually turn it back over to the people, as we did in Europe.

If one believes that it is too late for that. That our misguided occupation strategy that destroyed the infrastructure, and has created a soverign government...that it is too late to change that occupation. Or that we simply do not want to spend the resources that it will take, or the lives, then we get out.
Now.
The middle path is one where we have destroyed the infrastructure, yet have not built a new one. The sects will not resolve their differences in a democratic way. Who thought that they could?
So we stop. We forget about whether Saddam sould have been toppled. He was. We forget about who invented this strategy. That isn't the question at hand. And we can worry about blame later. Right now American's are dying. We can ***** blame later.
We need to unclutter the problem. Look at what is really going on. And we make a decision.
That is the only path that will honor the sacrifice that all of these courageous Americans are making.
Wonderful piece of journalism. CBS news got this one right.

[gatxpeach]

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! My brother is a combat medic and has served 2 tours in Iraq. With all the negative reports we hear out of Iraq, it was refreshing to see the men and women who go the extra mile to save lives of the American and Iraqi people. Please keep up the good work. And thank you to the families that let Americans share in their joy and pain of their loved ones.

[rcpnow]

Scott Pelley doesn't get the spirit of the American Soldier, he doesn't get what we are fighting for, and he never will.

As noted by a previous comment, a reader posted that the "really?" comment was left off the transcript when Pelley asked the Iraqi MD if this war is worth it. It was obvious during that comment that Pelley was surprised that an Iraqi doctor understands what it takes to fight for freedom.

But even more disturbing, was Pelley%u2019s reaction the soldier's response in regards to his rehab after losing his leg. Even after the soldier claims he will get back everything, and he is having fun, Scott Pelley is shocked and looks almost disgusted by the soldier's high spirits. He also seems disappointed that the soldier did not respond with bitterness and anger towards his condition and the war.

Sorry, Mr. Pelley. Sorry you could not find a reason for an American soldier or an Iraqi doctor to agree with you bias against this war.