WASHINGTON, Oct. 23, 2006

Bush Adviser: Iraq Must 'Step Up'

White House Aide Deflects Criticism; Democratic Senator: Iraq Needs 'Radical Change'

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(CBS/AP)  The fledgling Iraqi government must "step up and take more responsibility" for the country's security, a high-ranking White House official said Monday.

At the same time, Dan Bartlett denied in a television interview that the Bush administration's war policy has been a sweeping "stay the course" commitment.

Senior members of Mr. Bush's national security team attended White House meetings Monday. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, just back Asia and Russia, was first to show up. She was followed by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

As pre-election pressure mounts from congressional Democrats and Republicans, a new report suggests the White House is drafting a timetable that calls for the Iraqi government to assume more responsibility for security in the war-torn country.

The report in Sunday's New York Times said the head of the U.S.-led Multinational Forces in Iraq and the U.S. ambassador to Iraq were working on a plan that probably would — for the first time — outline milestones for disarming sectarian militias and meeting other political and economic goals.

Bartlett dismissed the Times article, saying, "I was puzzled by the report over the weekend because it was stating something we have been talking about publicly for months." He told CBS Early Show co-anchor Hannah Storm that the U.S. policy in Iraq is not a "stay the course strategy." Bartlett added, "We aren't sitting there with our heads in the sand. We are completely changing on a week-by-week basis."

The White House earlier had said the report in Sunday's editions of the Times was not accurate. Bartlett said he thought it "might have been overwritten."

"The enemy we're fighting is a very determined one. They're very lethal. ... But we are going to prevail and it's going to require the Iraqis themselves to step up and take more responsibility, and that's something we'll be impressing on them in the weeks and months ahead," Bartlett said.

Appearing after Bartlett on The Early Show, Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., told co-anchor Harry Smith, "I was amazed by Dan Bartlett's comments that we have always been flexible. They still talk about this being a war against terrorists. It's a civil war." Biden added, "We need a radical change."

Biden, who is the senior Democrat of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was adamant that the United States needs to push Iraq to intensify its security forces and reach a political settlement with its sectarian factions. "Last time I said that, the president said we can't tell the Iraqis what to do. Like heck we can't tell the Iraqis what to do. It's our blood and treasure. We told them what to do with the constitution. We should tell them straight up now: 'Get a preliminary settlement or you are on your own, Jack.'"

Biden said the time is coming when the American public will no longer tolerate lives and money "being poured down a rathole because, in fact, we're in the middle of a civil war."

In other related developments:

  • The October U.S. death toll in Iraq is at least 87, the highest monthly toll in nearly two years. In Balad, however, U.S. forces are not the main target. As Lara Logan reports, Iraqi factions are taking aim at each other.

  • Iraq Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on Monday announced a military crackdown to tame the country's staggering armed violence, taking special aim at continuing lawlessness in the southern city of Amarah, where police have fled the streets as Mahdi Army gunmen hunt them down in a brutal Shiite-on-Shiite settling of scores. The spread of vendetta-style killings among Shiites in their southern heartland has opened a new and ominous front as American forces were already struggling to control insurgent and sectarian bloodshed to the north especially in Baghdad.

  • Militants targeted police recruits and shoppers rounding up last-minute sweets and delicacies Sunday for a feast to mark the end of the Ramadan holy month, the highlight of the Muslim year. At least 44 Iraqis were reported killed across the country.

  • Sunday's killings raised to at least 950 the number of Iraqis who have died in war-related violence this month, an average of more than 40 a day. Until this month, the daily average had been about 27. The AP count includes civilians, government officials and police and security forces, and is considered a minimum based on AP reporting. The actual number is likely higher, as many killings go unreported. The United Nations has said at least 100 Iraqis are now killed daily.

  • The U.S. military announced the deaths of a Marine and seven soldiers, raising to 86 the number of American service members killed in October — the highest monthly toll this year. The pace of U.S. deaths could make October the deadliest month in two years.

  • President Bush reviewed Iraq strategy with top war commanders and national security advisers on Friday and Saturday, but indicated little inclination for major changes to an increasingly divisive policy. "Our goal in Iraq is clear and unchanging: Our goal is victory," Mr. Bush said in his weekly radio address Saturday. "What is changing are the tactics we use to achieve that goal."

    Also Monday, Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Barham Saleh urged international forces to remain even in the face of the violence, saying it was no time to panic.

    "I have to say, because there is too much of a pessimistic tone to this debate even I would say in certain circles a defeatist tone," Saleh told the British Broadcasting Corp. before meeting in London with Prime Minister Tony Blair.

    Meanwhile, a day after his remarks in an interview were broadcast by the pan-Arab satellite channel Al-Jazeera, Alberto Fernandez issued a written apology Sunday through the State Department press office.

    "Upon reading the transcript of my appearance on Al-Jazeera, I realized that I seriously misspoke by using the phrase 'there has been arrogance and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq," said Fernandez, director of public diplomacy in State's Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs.

    "This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department," Fernandez added. "I apologize."

    U.S. officials had sought to play down Fernandez' assessment of the security situation in Iraq.

    State Department spokesman Sean McCormack told reporters Friday that Fernandez said after the broadcast he didn't think reports of his comments were an "accurate reflection of what he said." Asked whether the Bush administration believed that history will show a record of arrogance or stupidity in Iraq, McCormack replied, "No."

    Fernandez spoke in fluent Arabic in the interview, which Al-Jazeera said was taped in Washington on Friday.

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    by frankly6 October 23, 2006 2:53 AM PDT
    Guess he went too far off the script.
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    by October 23, 2006 3:16 AM PDT
    I guess the truth hurt.
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    by rharrin1 October 23, 2006 3:28 AM PDT
    I wonder who TOLD him to apologize ( do it or you lose your job )
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    by peaceintheus October 23, 2006 3:57 AM PDT
    So why is this guy still sitting pretty in his position? He should be fired.
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    by glidescube October 23, 2006 4:24 AM PDT
    Another Republican that gets threatend for telling the truth? Perhaps?
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    by hokuto1 October 23, 2006 5:23 AM PDT
    Bluegirl-redstate says her son is fluent in Arabic and that the original translation was correct:
    http://bluegalinaredstate.blogspot.com/2006/10/top-state-department-middle-east.html

    Fernandez simply spoke outloud what the rest of us have known since day 1 of this misbegotten adventure.
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    by October 23, 2006 8:01 AM PDT
    What?? How can you "misspeak". This sounds more and more like "Animal Farm" each day.
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    by October 23, 2006 8:03 AM PDT
    Everyone please remember to remind everyone around you to exercise their right to vote. This admnistration should be impeached and tried for crimes against humanity.
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    by janeymcgreev October 23, 2006 8:25 AM PDT
    hammy,


    if anyone should be impeached, it is you and your neo-fascist buddies. impeached and sent to Iraq or Lebanon. Maybe do some mine clearing duties on the Lebanese border.

    Unless of course you wish to join Hizbullah. God, you Democratic Neo-Fascists are so unbelieveable.

    Vote Democratic - and you get ILLEGAL Aliens, Higher Taxes, Less National Defense, Appeasement of Terrorists, and the Plastic Princess Nancy Pelosi.

    Oh yeah, Barrack Obama wants to run for the President. Good, the day he stops grovelling to his Massa Byrd, he of the Grand Kleagle of the West Virginia KKK.
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    by yaferinjrsm October 23, 2006 8:26 AM PDT
    Not only should Alberto Fernandez be fired immediately but a thorough investigation of who hired him as director of public diplomacy must be conducted immediately.As someone who lives in Israel where there are a million people who speek fluent Arabic ,I'm sure I would have no problem recruiting a few thousand people who could find something good about America on Al Jazera
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    by houser123 October 23, 2006 8:26 AM PDT
    With a little more than two weeks till the mid term elections, I CHALLENGE EVERY ELLIGIBLE LEGAL VOTER TO DO SO. WOULD IT NOT BE A GREAT EVENT TO SEE A 95% TURNOUT OF REGISTERED VOTERS. WITH 95% TURNOUT, IT WOULD TELL US WHAT THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT NATION THINK.

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    by janeymcgreev October 23, 2006 8:31 AM PDT
    Let's see about trials.

    Jimmy Carter for supporting Hamas, betraying the Shah of Iran and allowing the first Islamic Nazi regime to take power in the Middle East, seize our people hostage, and create the conditions for a hostile and Nuclear Iran - not to mention generating the seeds for Hamas, Hizbullah and Al Qaeda.

    Bill and Hillary Clinton, for focusing on their legacy rather than truly going after Bin Laden. Especially Pervert Bill, who focused more on a fat bimbo than on locating terrorist sites in Afghanistan. Or for bombing Serbian civilians in Belgrade.

    Robert KKK Byrd - for being the bigot he was and is.

    Barrack Obama, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Maxine Waters for just being stupid. Not to mention the real Plantation Slaves the hapless hotair Harry was mumbling about.

    Barbie Boxer, for being a whiney *** who carped about Republican bad behavior but nary a word about Clinton, about Gary Condom, oops, Condit, about Gerald- ine Studds and Brenda, oops, Barney Frank.

    John Kerry for being a traitor.

    The list goes on and on and on, huh, Jase. You want more, little one?
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    by houser123 October 23, 2006 8:32 AM PDT
    JaneyMcGreev:

    Your recent post does merit a response. You show:

    Vote Democratic - and you get ILLEGAL Aliens, Higher Taxes, Less National Defense, Appeasement of Terrorists, and the Plastic Princess Nancy Pelosi.

    Please name one Democrat that is advocating these positions. Only one will do.

    As for your comment about Barrack Obama, that only shows you are a bigot.




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    by janeymcgreev October 23, 2006 8:45 AM PDT
    Houser,

    I'm not a bigot, but you are certainly an ***.

    John Kerry, Jim Murtha, the Senatorial candidates in Arizona and Pennsylvania, Pederson and Casey, Phil Angelides the Gubernatorial candidate in California, and Ned Lamont. You want more?

    As far as the ILLEGALS are concerned, hmmmm. Ted Kennedy, who certainly won't bring them up to Cape Cod, the entire Latino Democratic representatives of California and Arizona are in the ILLEGAL camp, learning English and becoming citizens BEFORE sneaking across the border be damned.

    Barrack Obama praises Robert Byrd instead of demanding his ouster from the United States Senate. I know a bit more about Civil Rights than you do, chum. Byrd should have been removed decades ago, but that's YOUR Democrats. A bunch of Neo-Fascist hypocrites.

    Want more, ***?
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    by houser123 October 23, 2006 8:53 AM PDT
    JaneyMcGreev

    Want more? I think not. With each of your posts you allow all of us to see just how much hatred you possess and quite frankly, how misinformed you are. You certainly have a right to your opinion, what you dont have is a right to your own facts.

    I wish you all the best come Nov. 7th. (hahaha)
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    by fallngempire October 23, 2006 9:03 AM PDT
    Is anyone fooled? Anyone? He says what 99 percent of the world knows, then has to retract it the next day because "it is not the official position of the state department".

    Well, official or not, it's the truth!
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    by janeymcgreev October 23, 2006 9:04 AM PDT
    You can't refute the truth, Dougie. So crawl back into your hole with the rest of the MoveOn.Org Air Hate America Neo-Fascists and dream on.

    The Senate will remain Republican. And you just might be in for a rude awakening re: the House when people realize Plastic Princess might take power.

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    by peterbaldwin-2009 October 23, 2006 9:21 AM PDT
    A few weeks ago General Richard Dannett said the British military should "get ourselves out sometime soon because our presence exacerbates the security problems". He backpedaled days later, but he got the meassge out and the British cheered, showing war monger Blair the door.

    Now Fernandez is feverishly backpedaling, but that horse is out of the barn too, and, as Bush would say, "All the kings horses and all the kings men ain't going to be able to shut that barn door".

    It seems the White House is more concerned with shutting up those honestly speaking their minds than fixing what's wrong in Iraq.

    Lucy has the football set to go, and Charlie Brown isn't buying it. "Come on Charlie. This time we have MILESTONES, for the FIRST TIME", says Lucy.
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    by janeymcgreev October 23, 2006 9:26 AM PDT
    Oh gosh, we've got Alex's other clueless relative on board. The one who actually joined the Hitler Youth.

    Of course Alex said he was going to France, Peter, that is, after he stopped beating up Kim.
    When do you plan to join him?
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    by proudindian-2009 October 23, 2006 9:33 AM PDT
    There is enough blame to go around in both parties!!! Why so much venon, Janey??? Maybe you are watching too much Fox TV?
    October being the deadliest month for this year, American soldiers could use your help!!! Sign up today Janey...don't just talk the talk!!!!
    I already had the privilege of fighting in another useless war...it was in a place called VietNam!
    Go to the Wall in Washington D.C. and look at the names..then check the label of your Winter coat...It probably was made in VietNam... I guess that is what I fought for!!!
    Have A Good Day
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    by avgeno October 23, 2006 9:36 AM PDT
    Come on guys....your falling for some dumb blonde who's comments show her inability to respond to the facts....her only avenue is to attack based on information that doesn't even hold water.....Ignore JaneyMcgreev and move on. We all know what is going to happen come the 7th. And we know how pissed she will be on the 8th. Lets look at the likes of her in amusement because they have nothing to bring to the table but stupidity and ignorance. The facts speak for themselves......
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    by peterbaldwin-2009 October 23, 2006 9:37 AM PDT
    The actual quote from Fernandz's written apology just over the wires: I humbly apologize, and I am deeply sorry that you and your staffers are arrogant and stupid, Mr. President. Unlike when you 'cut and ran' from having to fight in Vietnam in your youth, you are now a fierce warrior(I saw the aircraft carrier pics) who will never surrender - like Custer. You are my hero, unlike that mean, yellow Kerry who was bad to those North Vietnamese soldiers who never did anything to him. Milestones will surely do the trick, Mr. President."
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    by ceekuei October 23, 2006 9:54 AM PDT
    When it is not my childen's lives that are in harm's way hell, let us "stay the course." Further more, "bring them on" and while we are on the subject it does not matter how many thousands died or maimed as long as they are not my family,who cares afterall "Our goal in Iraq is clear and unchanging: Our goal is victory,"
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    by grumpas October 23, 2006 9:54 AM PDT
    I see the Brown Shirted Storm Trooper (JaneyMcGreev)is out of her cage again kicking in doors and spreading her message of hate again!!! Oh! What a love filled person she is! I will bet she goes into withdrawal's when she doesn't get her dose of venom every day! Maybe we will get lucky and Georgie will accuse her of being a terrorist and she will just disappear in his Gulag system forever! The Republican's haven't won a fair and square election since 2000! They have stolen every last one with their electionic cheating machines that the good Republican Diebold makes for them to rig elections! So why is this election going to be any different? They are always the first to start howling a Democrat is cheating because that's the only way they can win elections anymore!
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    by kirslake October 23, 2006 9:55 AM PDT
    How do we get these morons as ambassadors for our Country. Fire the jerk before he does anymore damage than he has already done. At least then he won't make another stupid mistake. If he doesn't have command of the English language, what is he doing as an ambassador?
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    by clestes-2009 October 23, 2006 9:57 AM PDT
    So, let's see. He speaks fluent Arabic and is a senior diplomat at the state dept dealing with Middle east affair. I can't see how he was misunderstand. I praise you as an honest and courageous man Mr. Fernandez!

    I think the state dept was more stupid than ever by forcing an apology out of him. That just brings attention to the fact that the powers that be in DC still haven't a clue and as elections near are providing more evidence the Whitehouse and Congress are out of touch with reality.
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    by edjohn66 October 23, 2006 10:00 AM PDT
    kirslake,

    I don't think the ambassador was a moron at all.... but I think your analysis can be reworked:

    How do we get these morons as presidents for our Country. Fire the jerk before he does anymore damage than he has already done. At least then he won't make another stupid mistake. If he doesn't have command of the English language, what is he doing as an president?
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    by shingles1 October 23, 2006 10:14 AM PDT
    "Um, I meant arrogant and stupid, but in a GOOD way."
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    by docpeter-2009 October 23, 2006 10:16 AM PDT
    I guess Mr. Fernandez came under a little pressure from higher-ups at the State Dept. to retract his statement. I couldn't agree more wiht his initial assessment, "U.S. policy in Iraq displayed "arrogance" and "stupidity." Now if we could only get Bush, Chaney, and most of all Rumsfeld to humbel themnselves a great deal and admit that Mr. Fernandez is right we can start correcting this blunder and bring our soldiers home to their families and return them to protecting our borders.
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    by ronniehm October 23, 2006 10:20 AM PDT
    "I praise you as an honest and courageous man Mr. Fernandez!"

    Since he said two things that were complete opposites, he is, at best, 50% honest.

    Courage.
    (--Dan Rather)
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    by getcentered October 23, 2006 10:29 AM PDT
    This war in Iraq is EXACTLY what the experts (the CIA, Pentagon) said it was going to be.

    Fools rush in and that is what we did going into Iraq, so calling the people wanting this war stupid or arrogant fits the bill just fine.

    GW Bush has nothing to do with the way the military is going to employ tactics.

    The military commanders do not want unnecessary deaths, but right now, they are on the ground in Iraq, by order of the President. People are dying all around our troops and they cannot do much about it. They do not know why they are there, or why the people in Iraq started killing each other.

    If the experts said it would be this way, why did we not take the time to create a better plan? I think I know part of the reasons: "politics". The party wanting this war needed it to BEGIN quickly or it might never come to pass.

    How unfortunate for our brothers and sisters in the military that they can be wasted along side of Iraqi people without a known, true and just cause.
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    by julio_69 October 23, 2006 10:32 AM PDT
    Why is saing the true a misstake?
    The fat that we still in Iraq is more than just a misstake.
    We should be out long time ago, bu for arrogances and stupids we still there.
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    by radiob-2009 October 23, 2006 10:34 AM PDT
    To everyone here let JaneMcCreev rant and rave.She obviously has not read the Washington Post or Times lately.They ran a story on the anger factor affecting the outcome of the elections,moderate republicans,independents and conservative democrats were abandoning the GOP for the democratic party.The arrticle was quite in depth and offered polls to support it.If those polls are correct and all the other polls then we will have a democratic sweep in both houses.She (McCreev)has never offered a single solution in any of her post besides vote Republican.Where was she when the IDIOT president of Iran was saying that Israel would disappear and a large number of posters were in agreeance with the Idiot.Here is the post Jane if you really are an American regardless of political affilation you will take these morons on.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/20/world/main2110011.shtml
    So lets see if you are an American first or just an angry,lonely,desparate woman filled with venom.Now is your chance to be bipartisan.
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    by tejasdemo October 23, 2006 10:35 AM PDT
    Almost 3000 US soldiers have been killed in Iraq since this absolute religious zealot zero took over our government. Was it arrogance and stupidity. You're *** right it was !

    Republicans are responsable for it. Time to make them pay for it. Vote Democratic November 7.
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    by ronniehm October 23, 2006 10:41 AM PDT
    "I think there is much room for criticism because, undoubtedly, there was arrogance and there was stupidity from the United States in Iraq."

    "This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department."

    Which one is a lie?
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    by fallngempire October 23, 2006 10:44 AM PDT
    Ignore Janey. Freeper troublemaker without a real opinion of his/her own. The "Air Hate America" and "neo fascists" is a dead giveaway. Just ignore the spout and throw the bums out. People like Janey mouth off in bars and get the *** kicked out of them after an election anyway, so their comeuppance is coming.
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    by ronniehm October 23, 2006 10:45 AM PDT
    "Why is saing the true a misstake?
    The fat that we still in Iraq is more than just a misstake.
    We should be out long time ago, bu for arrogances and stupids we still there."

    Who says we don't occasionally leave one child behind?
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    by getcentered October 23, 2006 10:47 AM PDT

    "Who says we don't occasionally leave one child behind?"

    A fools comment.

    We leave many behind.
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    by rsoxfan1123 October 23, 2006 10:54 AM PDT
    When will the Bush cronies learn NOT to tell the truth publicly. Remeber, all is going well, there are just a VERY few radical ones, and the mission is accomplished! You just can't find good help nowadays
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    by clestes-2009 October 23, 2006 11:16 AM PDT
    Ronnie, baby, where you been?

    You know, I like you and think you have some brain cells, so don't disappoint me by dithering over wherethere "arrogant" and "Stupidity" are opposite. You know perfectly well one can be arrogant and smart the same as one can be arrogant and stupid.

    In this case, considering that Iraq has descended into civil war and gw is still dithering on about "victory" and "changing tactics" while in the next breath denying that anything in his approach is going to change, is pretty stupid.

    Of course he IS PRETTY STUPID!
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    by tejasdemo October 23, 2006 11:20 AM PDT
    5 seconds after the election is over, Bush and the Repubs will raise gas prices, pardon Jeff Skilling, Bernie Ebbers, Dennis Kowslowski, and stay the course in Iraq.

    Time to end these arrogant, tranparent, criminals' political careers. Give them their lifetime pensions and benefits for *** us out of just about our last dime and send them on their way to Fox News and Rush Limbaugh for their endless, mindless but entertaining "interviews".
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    by rsoxfan1123 October 23, 2006 11:26 AM PDT
    clestes- I think he is showing the two contradictory statements- first, the man's obvious opinion and second, his denial that it is his or anyone's opinion. It is a forced retraction, though, apparently a lie. The lie was the second one (about it not being anyone's opinion). This was a Bushie forced lie/retraction. The truth was told the first time. Cronies should know better than to tell the truth while on Bush's payroll....
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    by fallngempire October 23, 2006 11:26 AM PDT
    No stay the course, huh? That's never been the policy of this administration? REALLY?
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    by ronniehm October 23, 2006 11:27 AM PDT
    "so don't disappoint me by dithering over wherethere "arrogant" and "Stupidity" are opposite. "

    Actually Fernandez saying he thinks something and then saying he doesn't think something would be the opposites to which I was referring. It didn't occur to me that someone would think I was claiming that stupidity and arrogance are opposites. Sorry. These are two quotes from the man you called honest:

    "I think there is much room for criticism because, undoubtedly, there was arrogance and there was stupidity from the United States in Iraq."

    "This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department."

    Which one is the lie?
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    by rsoxfan1123 October 23, 2006 11:28 AM PDT
    "Actually Fernandez saying he thinks something and then saying he doesn't think something would be the opposites to which I was referring. It didn't occur to me that someone would think I was claiming that stupidity and arrogance are opposites. Sorry. These are two quotes from the man you called honest:"

    welcome back Ronnie. I explained that for you to him. see my other post for the answer to your question.
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    by ronniehm October 23, 2006 11:31 AM PDT
    " This was a Bushie forced lie/retraction."

    I don't see how you could possibly know that.
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    by rsoxfan1123 October 23, 2006 11:32 AM PDT
    call it an educated guess. He states his opinion publicly and it flies in the face of his boss's policy, then suddenly retracts it.
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    by rsoxfan1123 October 23, 2006 11:34 AM PDT
    Ronnie, you have to look at the sheer number of who were axed and run out of positions by the administration for offering opinions that did not follow party line. Most of them wait until they are safely retired before speaking their piece. Remember the Plame incident? You DON'T cross these thugs in the this adminstartion. The message has been clear.
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    by ronniehm October 23, 2006 11:40 AM PDT
    Forgive me, but that seems like yet another educated guess designed to defend your previous educated guess. I'm not sure what you want me to do with that kind of proof.
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    by peterbaldwin-2009 October 23, 2006 11:40 AM PDT
    Congress needs to wrestle back its war-making powers that it handed over to Bush in 2003. There are people like Reed, Hegel, Kerry and Levin who could join together and extract America from Iraq in a matter of months, not years. With a Democrat sweep, the legislature could assert itself and hold the executive in check. Republicans would have to chose to be with the American people or with Bush. There could be enough momentum to get things done sooner than later.

    Guys like Kerry and Reed have acknowledged their mistakes and now are four square on the right side of this issue. They need now to throw off the last vestiges of Rovian manipulation and tell the American people what they want to hear: We will be out of Iraq as soon as humanly possible, hopefully with a drawdown beginning in a matter of months. Give us a mandate by throwing out those Republican weasels. Otherwise, its two more years of staying the course at the very least. Congress calls the shots on war-making - not the President.
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