September 22, 2009 11:06 AM

Tet? Not Yet

By
Bootie Cosgrove-Mather
(National Review Online)  This column was written by James S. Robbins.
When President Bush said that there might be some parallels between the Iraq and Vietnam wars, you would think he had declared unilateral surrender, judging from the press reaction. He mildly agreed with Thomas Friedman's assertion that the recent uptick in violence in Iraq (during Ramadan, note) could be the "jihadist equivalent of the Tet offensive," and the frenzy began. It may have been a first for the president, but the Tet analogy is nothing new. Arthur Schlesinger touted Tet with reference to Fallujah in 2004. I first started debunking Tet comparisons back in 2003, during an earlier spate of Ramadan-related violence. For all the Tet talk, we have yet to see anything remotely like it.

It is not a very good analogy, even with the qualifier "jihadist equivalent," which is not setting the bar very high. Take, for example, the respective levels of violence. There were 73 U.S. dead in Iraq for the first three weeks of October, 2006. The average number killed during three weeks in 1968 in Vietnam was 957, over 13 times higher. As well, a simple uptick in indiscriminate violence is hardly something on the level of Tet, which was a comprehensive, three-phased plan to foment mass uprisings in South Vietnam as prelude to a conventional invasion. The planning a preparation for the attack took at least nine months. It was executed nearly simultaneously in cities and hamlets across the country. And even though it was a failure, the insurgents in Iraq have shown none of the strategic or operational acumen of our enemies in the 1960s.

But they really do not need to since the North Vietnamese already did the work for them. The most important difference between Tet and any similar (or dissimilar) situation today is that the insurgents in Iraq know what the North Vietnamese did not know, at least at first — they do not have to actually win a battle to achieve a strategic victory.

The reaction to the president's statement is a case in point. The insurgents do not have to conduct a series of coordinated major operations; they only need to create enough chaos to harness the power of analogy. They do not have to mount major attacks, but just seem to mount them. So long as there are journalists willing to make the comparison to other, more significant battles of the past, the insurgents achieve victory by association.

The terrorists have long studied how our media operates. Check out an August 2006 jihadist chat room post by Najd al-Rawi of the Global Islamic Media Front entitled "The Global Media: A Work Paper for Invading the U.S. Media." Ironically, among the people the insurgents seek to influence, al-Rawi lists "well-known American writers such as [Thomas] Friedman." I am not saying Friedman is complicit in some kind of terror plot; I am saying the terrorists know how writers generate story lines, and they seek to provide the hooks.

Nevertheless, it doesn't always work. Recently an insurgent group release a video of (they claimed) the bodies of American servicemen being dragged through the streets. Shades of Mogadishu 1994? It was clearly an attempt to evoke that event and the withdrawal that followed, but the manipulation was a little too obvious and it did not catch on. Another and more fitting attempt at engaging the media's propensity for seeking Vietnam analogies was the planned attack last spring on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad. (See my original piece on it here.) Nothing would get the Tet comparison going better than an embassy attack, since during the actual Tet offensive the poorly planned, ineffectively executed and quickly dispatched strike on the Saigon embassy was immediately dubbed a "symbolic victory" for the enemy by the American media. A similar attack in Baghdad would also not have to achieve anything to enjoy the same decisive status.

Analogies are exercises in perception management; they have nothing to do with the actual course of the insurgency or the facts on the ground. The press is reacting so fervidly to the president's statement because they have been pushing the Vietnam analogy all along, with its connotations of "quagmire" and defeat. To say that the president "admits" that there are parallels to Vietnam is hardly news. Both conflicts are revolutionary insurgencies, and most irregular or unconventional wars are similar at that level of generality. However, while one can draw parallels in some respects, in the most significant respect one cannot. There is no North Vietnam, no PAVN, and no chance of an escalation to conventional warfare under current conditions. The enemy force that came crashing through the gates of our embassy in Saigon was not a guerilla army wearing black pajamas, but a conventional force riding Soviet tanks. The war in Iraq cannot be lost that way. But perhaps it can another way.

If you want a good Vietnam analogy, look to electoral politics. The 1974 midterm congressional elections demonstrated the power of the left wing of the Democratic Party as antiwar congressional candidates swept into power. The Democrats, already in the majority, took 43 Republican seats, some of them in solid GOP districts. One of the last acts of the emboldened 93rd Congress was the Foreign Assistance Act of 1974, which cut aid to South Vietnam and left the Paris peace agreement unenforceable. The House passed the bill after Senate action on December 11, 1974. Exactly one week later, North Vietnamese leaders convened in Hanoi to formulate their final attack plan. By the end of April, 1975, South Vietnam was in its death throes, and the last evacuees were being lifted off the roof of the American Embassy in Saigon.

If the Democrats take one or both houses of Congress this election, putatively riding a wave of anti-war fervor, very little funding for the conflict in Iraq will survive. We may yet again see Americans being choppered to safety as another former ally is abandoned, to insurgents, to foreign intervention, or a combination of both. If you want analogies, look to '74, not '68. Tet was a victory, won by American arms. Six years later we lost the war by a stroke of the pen.

James S. Robbins is author of ""Last in Their Class: Custer, Pickett and the Goats of West Point ," and is currently writing a book on the Tet offensive.

By James S. Robbins
Reprinted with permission from National Review Online

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by jhindson1 October 21, 2006 3:49 PM EDT
The war was already lost before it began. Iraq is another case of one society attempting to impose its culture on another. America is trying to impose democracy on a 4,000 year old tribal-based culture - there is zero chance of success here.

The only way to get out and save face is to say that "America provided Iraq with an opportunity to be rid of Sadaam and govern itself in peace but, it is clear through the inability of Iraq's factions to unite in a common purpose that they want to settle their differences through force in a prolonged Civil War" - then just leave!

Unfortunately, Iraq will have to experience the horrors of a prolonged Civil War to eventually stabilize (when enough blood has been let). No one can save them from this fate.

Unfortunately, no one learns from history and the people of Iraq are no different.

No worries about the ****** in Iran - they are Persians not Arabs. They will unite against a common enemy (outsiders) but when the coalition leaves they will fight among themselves.

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by plethos October 21, 2006 12:39 PM EDT
Mr. Robbins, you are right in that the Vietnam War saw much more American killed and that Tet was much more bloodier, but what you are missing is that Iraq is having the same effect on our country as Vietnam did and the recent upsurge in violence is having a similar effect to our country's support for the war as Tet did.

A more fair analogy of the Iraq War would be that it is what the Afghanistan War was to the Soviets. Everybody says the Soviet-Afghanistan war was the Soviet Union's Vietnam. It helped demoralize the Soviet Union, helped bankrupt them, and was instrumental to breaking them up. Eventually they pulled out in defeat.

But as we lost 50,000 Americans in 7 years in Vietnam, the Soviets only lost 10,000 over 10 years in Afghanistan (about the same KIA rate as us in Iraq). Where we had 500,000 troops in Vietnam during it's height, the Soviet Union had 100,000 troops in Afghanistan during that war's height (same as we have in Iraq now). Where we were in Vietnam to protect the South from the North, the Soviets were in Afghanistan as an occupation force.

As you can see by the amount of troops fighting, the amount of casualties, the occupation, and impact on treasure, the Iraq War is to us what the Afghanistan War of the '80s was to Russia. And the Soviet-Afghanistan war was to Russia what Vietnam was to us. There are parallels whether you want to see it or not. All three are quagmires with no end in sight but to eventually leave.
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by ideanet-2009 October 21, 2006 8:37 AM EDT
It is my opinion that all of you have missed the point here. It is that the President does not even know what the meaning of Tet is. Thats way he saud Maybe. He does not know the sigificants of The Tet offinsive.
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by ufool2 October 21, 2006 3:27 AM EDT
Your comments and the story totally miss the point the Pres. made, of course this is the media view of how to think. What he was refering in his comment and the media refuse to admit is they were the 5th coloum of the Vietnam War. That was the comparasion he made. The Tet debacal was a media event stating that the US military lost.. They did NOT.. The NVA & VC were decimated they lost every battle. The media though caused the public to think that the war was lost just because the other side in any conflict attacks succefully in the opening few minutes of a battle. When that battle is over, and our troops are the ones stand however bloodied or bent they may be, They won.
Victory...
since this site has no spell check your just gonna' use your mind...& get past that to my truth.
As for the Demo-Cut-and-Run-Crats pasing a law to cut off funds like they did to Nixon.. Humm
Time for Congress to Really Declare War.
Not just give the Pres. premission to engage in the war on Terr., but a real declration of War like they did in WW2 Then we would be able to prosacute this WAR properly. And the mission Acom sign .. Again a Libtard smoke screen. That banner was for the ship returning to home port...Where all ships go when there overseas tour is finished..

So do ya friggin get it yet ?
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by bluestardad October 21, 2006 1:16 AM EDT
What a horses hind end, if he had to serve in combat he would never have considered putting us in Iraq in the first place. These People running this war I would not trust to make me coffee.
Cut and Run is honorable compared to Send and Not Serve, Stay and be Stupid, Chide and be a Chicken Hawk, or Preach values and be a Pedophile. Remember there is a special gift for those of you who vote Republican, Mr. Foley%u2019s Special %u201CPage Probe Soap on a Rope%u201D guaranteed to help you achieve Mission Accomplished, especially made for those of you who are having trouble Staying the Course.

Special Note: This product will be discretely delivered in plain brown paper wrapping complete with plausible deniability and I do not recall disclaimer instructions. If you act right now you will get a free meeting with that Chief of Chicken Hawks, Pontiff of Pork, that great Salivating Swine, Rush Linbaugh.
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by itchybrain October 20, 2006 8:13 PM EDT
There's nothing in the last 5 years the Bush administration has done that will prevent a nuke from going off in an American city if some wacko decide that's what he wants to do. Bush's idea of "security" is to give all our money to Halliburton and scare the pants off of everybody in our country.

The Iraq people don't even know the meaning of the word "democracy" and don't give a rats patootie about it or us. We are directly or indirectly responsible for killing and maiming way more people in that country than Saddam ever thought of. They were much better off with that madman ruling the place with his boot on their necks. It's just what they needed. We should get out and let them settle it among themselves and we can go back and pick up the pieces later.

If it weren't for their oil, we wouldn't be there in the first place. They were no threat to us or anyone else. We were fed a whole menu of lies to get us into this war, and if that's what you want from your government, then go ahead and vote republican. I'd settle for Daffy Duck over this lying pack of Neocon wolves.


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by pwhited-2009 October 20, 2006 7:26 PM EDT
bluestardad says:

"Cut and run is honorable..."

And there you have it. You won't think so dad, when a nuclear device explodes in Anytown, USA. I'd rather fight those *** somewhere else than have them come here with the fight. Bill Clinton spent 8 years showing them how weak the United States was, with his "We're going to find them and bring them to justice" BS, spewed over and over again. Drag a couple dead Americans down the street in Mogadishu and we "cut and ran", yes, we were WEAK then due to weak leadership. I don't think that the war in Iraq is being handled effectively either, but pulling out now would be a huge mistake. Changes do need to be made, in the way the war is being prosecuted. It appears that the on scene commanders are too tied up with the political end of the war, much like they were in Vietnam. That's the real tragedy here. That and the fact that the terrorists LOVE people like you who advocate running away. You'll see, the article above is right on target, if the weak minded sissy libs take control the funding will dry up, our troops will be pulled out, and not long afterwards we'll see attacks here that will make the Sept 11th attacks look like a picnic in the park. How about 250,000 dead in New York after a nuke detonates there?

Vote Democrat, surrender in Iraq, and pretend everything is ok!

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by bluestardad October 20, 2006 7:02 PM EDT
Cut and Run is honorable compared to Send and Not Serve, Stay and be Stupid, Chide and be a Chicken Hawk, or Preach values and be a Pedophile. Remember there is a special gift for those of you who vote Republican, Mr. Foley%u2019s Special %u201CPage Probe Soap on a Rope%u201D guaranteed to help you achieve Mission Accomplished, especially made for those of you who are having trouble Staying the Course.

Special Note: This product will be discretely delivered in plain brown paper wrapping complete with plausible deniability and I do not recall disclaimer instructions. If you act right now you will get a free meeting with that Chief of Chicken Hawks, Pontiff of Pork, that great Salivating Swine, Rush Linbaugh.
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by itchybrain October 20, 2006 6:33 PM EDT
This war was lost by this administration on the day Bush declared "Mission Accomplished"... they saw no more effort required.

Chickenhawks spew this nonsense because they are cowards and have nothing to lose ...they let others do the fighting and dying for them. All we get are big words from little people.


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