Oct. 22, 2006
Nancy Pelosi: Two Heartbeats Away
Lesley Stahl Profiles The Woman Who Could Become the Next Speaker Of The House
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Two Heartbeats Away
Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi could become the first female Speaker of the House if Democrats win a majority in the upcoming midterm elections. She talks to Lesley Stahl about her style of leadership.
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As the kids got older, Pelosi threw herself into state politics, eventually becoming chairman of the California Democratic party. She didn’t run for Congress until she was 46, and now at 66, as she’s poised to go down in the history books, what Nancy Pelosi wants you to know is that when it comes to her real goal in life: she’s just like any other woman her age.
"It's great. It's fabulous. It was my goal in life and now I've achieved it. I'm a grandmother," Pelosi says laughing.
Ask Nancy Pelosi to describe herself and the first thing out of her mouth is that she’s a mother of five and a grandmother of five.
"When I asked your daughter Christine how you rule, she said you were motherly," Stahl tells Pelosi.
"I guess it depends on your definition of motherly. If motherly means – we’ll have order in the house, yes," she replies.
Well, she’s certainly brought order to the Democrats. She has insisted on no more bickering in public and just saying "no" to nearly everything that comes out of the Bush White House. In other words, party discipline: kind of like the Republicans do it. As a result, Democrats now vote together more often than they have since Eisenhower was president. How has someone so clearly not one of the boys managed to keep them in line? Well, one way is money.
She has personally raised more than $100 million, second only to Bill and Hillary Clinton, which she dispenses generously to her colleagues. Another way she rules is through good old fashioned hardball.
Some people says Pelosi is tough as nails.
Says Pelosi, "I'm very strong. I don't know - tough but… ."
"Every time I ask you about it, you retreat into, 'Oh no, I'm a mother, I'm a grandmother,'" Stahl points out, laughing. "You are tough. You have to, I mean, it goes without saying. You got there. You did it."
Pelosi replies: "I heard somebody say the other day when they said, 'You should see how tough she was on a certain subject.' And one of my other colleagues said, 'You have no idea.'”
One thing she does is threaten to deny plum assignments to members who vote with the Republicans. But by keeping her troops in lockstep, her critics say she has worsened the gridlock and partisan bitterness in Congress.
Pelosi took 60 Minutes to the last election strategy session House Democrats held before they went off to campaign.
The mood was buoyant, with credit going to Pelosi for bringing them so close to retaking the House with her strategy of not letting one Republican attack go unanswered.
With just 16 days to the election, Nancy Pelosi – who already made history once when she became minority leader – thinks she’s about to do it again.
"You have to understand: breaking the – here we call it the marble ceiling. This makes glass look like nothing. This is a marble ceiling," she says.
And breaking it, she says, would help all women. "I believe if I become Speaker of the house and in that highly visible role show the American people that women know how to use power, that I think it helps all women in the political process or whatever it the field they're in. But I think it will be a plus," Pelosi says.
She has pledged that as Speaker she would give the Republicans rights they’ve denied the Democrats, like allowing them to introduce amendments to bills. But she may have trouble reining in the Democrats’ appetite for revenge. There’s already talk of multiple investigations and impeachment of the president.
"No, impeachment is off the table," she says.
"And that's a pledge?" Stahl asks.
"Well, it's a pledge in the – yes, I mean, it's a pledge. Of course it is. It is a waste of time," she replies.
"Wouldn't they just love it, if we came in and our record as Democrats coming forth in 12 years, is to talk about George Bush and Dick Cheney? This election is about them. This is a referendum on them," Pelosi says. "Making them lame ducks is good enough for me."
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See all 119 CommentsThat would make Nancy Pelosi President by default, and I hope she chooses Howard Dean as her VP. I'm The Subway Serenade and I approved this comment.
Stahl has really disappointed me tonight.
Lookss like you will be taking over when Cheney and Bush are impeached and JAILED for their War Crimes.
There is an undeniable abundance of hard evidence that Cheney/Bush LIED us into the needless, horrific War On Iraq -- about as high a "High Crime and Misdomeaner" as you can get! A few (or several) hundred thousand innocent Iraqi civilians dead, nearly 2,800 US troops dead, thousands and thousands more maimed for life, not to mention $300 Billion (so far).
In addition to the Horror of War foced upon our troops and the Iraqi people, these Neocons are responsible for expoliting 9-11 to start their War of Agression, which has radicalized the next generation of young men in the Middle East, leaving us far less safe.
So, welcome President Pelosi -- and good luck, for you have inherited a TOTAL DISASTER.
We should all be talking bout what sort of JAIL TIME they should get for their crimes.
The comment about making Bush and Caney lame ducks is right on and this election should be a referendum on the GOP's approval rating.
Restoring the stability in Iraq is something the United States cannot do by itself. We need international participation from Iraq%u2019s neighbors to share the burden and to show the Arabs we are not going to occupy their country for oil. However, the total loss of credibility on the international level will make it difficult for Bush to build any alliance to stabilize Iraq.
It is even possible the upcoming election is a measure of the GOP%u2019s credibility and Nancy Pelosi will probably become the new speaker of the house.
Considering the total collapse of GOP credibility and the record of failure, I can live with the change. The only reason people are mentioning %u201CSan Francisco Values%u201D is to generate fear and divide the growing ballot that wants to change the direction
This election is not about electing Nancy Pelosi. It's about putting an end to the the corruption, incompetance and failed policies of Bush and the GOP.
As for Viet Nam comparrisons to Iraq. Iraq already is a new Viet Nam. Like Viet Nam this administration didn't have the political will to send enough troops and not strategicly competant enough to win. Like Viet Nam the distruction and carniage has been apocoliptic. At least half a million Iraqis have been killed in three short years. Nearly three thousand Americans have been killed and tens of thousands more seriously wounded for life. Like Viet Nam, the soldiers on the ground aren't clear who is friend and who is enemy. Like Viet Nam the American public have lost confidence in the leaders who got us into it. Just like Viet Nam this war began on a lie and continues on a lie. Just like Viet Nam history will look back on Iraq as a huge mistake and huge waste of life and treasure for nothing. Hopefully, the big difference will be that we will get out before we waste any more of either.
Perhaps the lowest part of the show was Stahl's remarks about Pelosi's wardrobe. Would Stahl have worn sandals to walk around that Iowa field? Undoubtedly cowboy boots were the order of the day in Iowa, but not appropriate in Connecticut. What would Stahl have remarked had Pelosi worn boots in CT and Armani in Iowa?
Send Stahl into retirement quickly. She is embarrassing CBS.
I was awe-struck by her un-professionalism, rudeness and out-dated questions. This was actually one of the more important interviews of her career since she was interviewing the soon-to-be newest speaker of the house. Despite that, her interview was nothing more than what I might have expected from the Ladies Home Journal, circa 1960. She focused on trivial and trite matters like what she wore, ate, and her designer clothing for Pete's sake. WHO CARES!
She starts out with this insulting comment: ""I mean, you're one of the reasons we have to restore civility in the first place," Stahl remarks. Looks like CBS needs to restore civility to 60-minutes by removing Leslie from the show. That's certainly an opinion she should have kept to herself.
Later, she comments that Nancy was pregnant while she was working, and then makes Nancy's poor daughter defend on-camera that they were amazingly still %u201Cfed and clothed%u201D while Nancy worked. How sexist and outdated is that line of questioning?
Her biased editorial comments, patronizing attitude and obvious sexism, un-professionalism and discriminatory manner, make it clear to me, CBS needs to hire a REAL PROFESSIONAL to deliver unbiased, un-editorial commentary. I'll take 60-minutes off my tivo until Leslie is gone.
"here" is more important than the rest of the nation? I do not trust people who slither out
of dealing with things.
"14 YEARS on the intelligence committee". Why didn't Pelosi speak up BEFORE the war?
Isn't it the question of the failure of "inteligence" that is one of the most serious conundrums now? (a guy from Iraq area said, Oh yes,Sadam HAD weapons of mass destruction, he just hauled them accross the border to the neighbors.)
WHEN did Pelosi know about Foley?
Leslie Stahl did a fine job.
Appreciate your honesty.
You vote Democratic, you get this.
You want it? Then don't cry to me when you see ILLEGALS clogging up our emergency rooms and schools even more so. Or get a higher tax bill BUT with LESS Defense. And don't forget the next terrorist attack. There were a half-dozen on Clinton's watch, but remember, he was too busy with Bimbos and Bombing Belgrade.
You vote Pelosi you get a Plastic Princess who is more concerned about how she looks than what she will do for the people. Hate Republicans, but remember that the *** Democratic Neo-Fascists like Nancy and Fruitcake Lamont are certainly much worst.
And anyone who brings up Foley again, just remember you gave us Clinton, Jim McGreevey, Barney Frank, and the dead reptile Studds. You may rightfully cry foul with pervert Mark but you cheered on your own Perverts.
Look at Pelosi. This thing with her plastic surgery wants to be 40 years old rather than 66. There is absolutely NO substance here, just a plastic nothing full of lies. But hey, that's what you get if you vote Democratic.
As far as the President being "incompetent" I don't hear Plastic Princess saying the same about his predecessor - the Pervert and Draft Dodger who played with Bimbos while Bin Laden was planning 9/11.
of the interview Leslie Stahl as her about the Dems going after Bush and trying to impeach him. She said it was off the table but you could tell she was lying thru her teeth. The Dems can't wait to get at Bush. Unfortunately, it's the last thing this country needs right now - another fiasco. We need someone to unite this country and bring our men and women home from Iraq. No one talks about that - it's all about themselves.
What is Pelosi in comparison to this? A little opinionated? I'll take opinionated over fascist any day! Pelosi says Bush is incompetent? He IS incompetent! She is hardly undermining an administration that has brought its self down, with the help of a Republican Senate, and House and Supreme Court. The Republicans have harmed this country, not Pelosi and her friends, and now its time for democracy to do its thing and swing the pendulum.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006
/10/20/world/main2110011.shtml
So lets see if you are an American first or just an angry,lonely,desparate woman filled with venom.Now is your chance to be bipartisan
Justify away.
Please ask here about her views on abortion and the killing she allows into the third trimester next time libby Stahl!
Its laughable reading these liberal rants
Moron Bush Idiot Bush on and ond
Nothing of substance Nothing!
If you have facts you pound the facts
If you have nothing you pound the podium
Pro Abortion and cut and run cowards
Sheehan and Baldwin and Penn Great group
Well, in case nobody noticed, we have a much scarier prospect "two heartbeats away" - Denny Hastert. Why anyone would think that Pelosi is scarier than Hastert in that role is beyond me. Hastert is more partisan, more divisive, and completely corrupt. At least Pelosi does not need to earmark taxpayer funds for a "highway to nowhere" to drive up the value of property and sell for a profit as Hastert did.
http://westanddivided.blogspot.com/2006/10/third-in-line.html
Well, in case nobody noticed, we have a much scarier prospect "two heartbeats away" - Denny Hastert. Why anyone would think that Pelosi is scarier than Hastert in that role is beyond me. Hastert is more partisan, more divisive, and completely corrupt. At least Pelosi does not need to earmark taxpayer funds for a "highway to nowhere" to drive up the value of property and sell for a profit as Hastert did.
http://westanddivided.blogspot.com/2006/10/third-in-line.html
Well, in case nobody noticed, we have a much scarier prospect "two heartbeats away" - Denny Hastert. Why anyone would think that Pelosi is scarier than Hastert in that role is beyond me. Hastert is more partisan, more divisive, and completely corrupt.
http://westanddivided.blogspot.com/2006/10/third-in-line.html
My campaign slogan - "The woman can't even dress herself - do you really want her as Speaker of the House?"
Care to guess how many people might be saved with stem cell research? How many disadvantaged Americans die because of inadequate health care? Are there differences in infant mortality rates among the different economic classes in America? How many more have died in the workplace because you guys lowered safety standards? Is that just "tough luck" in your view? And how many will die in Iraq today?
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