February 11, 2009 5:54 PM

Gays In Military Debate Resurfaces

By
Scott Conroy
(CBS)  Former Naval Petty Officer Rhonda Davis says she now serves her country on the front lines for homosexual rights. As Randall Pinkston reports, the Navy dismissed her because she violated the "don't ask, don't tell" policy on homosexuality.

Earlier this summer, she publicly acknowledged her sexual orientation at a rally supporting gay marriage.

"I said I would like to get married. I am dating a woman, we're very much in love and this is where I broke the policy," Davis says.

Since 1994 when the don't ask, don't tell policy went into effect, an estimated 10,000 military personnel have been discharged—2,000 since the war in Iraq began. The General Accounting Office reports the coast of training and replacing them totals nearly $200 million.

The war in Iraq is taking a toll on overall recruitment, and meeting the minimum enlistment goals remains a challenge. The Pentagon says it has met this year's quotas, but that was because the Army changed its enlistment requirements and increased financial incentives just to get people to sign up.

You can now get a waver for lack of a high school diploma—even past drug use or minor incarcerations. But no branch of service will give a waiver for open homosexuality.

For that to happen, Congress has to change the law, and a House bill to do just that is encountering tough opposition.

The Pentagon contends it is following the policy set by the Commander-In-Chief. But some conservative groups say they want don't ask, don't tell eliminated because it allows gays to serve discreetly.

"Homosexuality is incompatible with military service. It's that simple," Elaine Donnelly, Director of the Center for Military Readiness says.

And critics say homosexuals in the military damage unit cohesion.

"Military people live in conditions of little or no privacy," Donnelly says. "We should not force people to reveal themselves to persons who might be sexually attracted to them."

But if the law is changed, Rhonda Davis says she's ready.

"I got my uniform hanging in the closet," she says.

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  • Scott Conroy

    Scott Conroy is a National Political Reporter for RealClearPolitics and a contributor for CBS News.

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by digrawg September 27, 2010 9:40 PM EDT
I look forward to the day when sexual deviants are allowed to adopt children and serve openly in the military. I can't believe that anyone would condemn or oppose this! I am in the Navy and I want our homosexuals to be free to tell us about their sexual deviation and I want them to be loud and proud! I want to be able to look around me and 24/7 on a 6 month deployment and take comfort in knowing that the people who I'm working closely with and sharing living quarters with are sexual deviants. I want them to be able to walk around on the boat all day long proclaiming their deviation for me and all of my fellow honorable servicemembers to hear, including the Captain, the Commodore and all of the marines on the boat! I will not rest until sexual deviants are practicing their deviation openly, loud and proud, in full military uniform. Dear God please get them into the service. And to those of you that are in the service having to conceal your sexual deviation; thank you for your service! We're gonna make sure you can be open, it might take some more work, but we'll make it happen!!! God bless you guys
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by evanerick October 9, 2006 12:29 AM EDT
this is another example of bible thumpers trying to tell people what is best but end up being hypocrites in the process.

They dont like abortions, but abortions have skyrocketed under republican rule.

They dont like ***, so they will try to keep them out of the military.

They dont care how wrong the end result is, just that they get their way.
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by pudd54 October 8, 2006 11:13 PM EDT
Winstrv I don't know what service you were in, but the army I joined in 1981 and just retired from has had HIV pos soldiers in it since 1986. Once the CD4 count drops and they are at risk for AIDS they are discharged. The army hasn't considered it an issue for twenty years. If you don't know the difference between HIV and AIDS look things up before opening mouth (or touching keyboard)
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by sharncedar October 8, 2006 7:42 PM EDT
There is the impression right or wrong, that many many many gay men and som lesbians are very interested in using the military as a multi-year gay camp and romp. It is already an epidemic in the Navy, for example, at least that is what I hear. It is like the gay Love Boat out there. For some reason, the gay community is attracted to a notion of military service as some kind of movable feast of hookups, pickups and masculine inclusion. Not sure why, it is just some weird fetish that figures in their fantasy life and aspirations.

The commanders are just trying to keep the American armed forces from becoming the laughingstock of the world.

Especially as we go through the Democrat period of fewer wars and an army that becomes a big dress-up game and overnight camping trip for bored homosexuals and latent homosexuals.

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by archangelric October 8, 2006 7:08 PM EDT
re "Homosexuality is incompatible with military service"

In what way? In what way is any other sexuality compatible, then? Is she suggesting beastiality, perhaps? Are we going back to the days of saltpeter in the food?

Seriously, people who are afraid of other people's sexuality are afraid of their own, like jj8788 below has demonstrated. We need to get away from worrying about what other people do on their own time, and worry about what they do on their job; all the comments about who you would rather have next to you in combat sound like people whoactually have served their country.

Our troops are not a bunch of boy scouts; they are men and women and should be respected as such in ALL cases, not just the ones who are "just like me"
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by jw218389 October 8, 2006 4:18 PM EDT
I'm ex-,ilitary (USN) and I can tell you that serving with a violent ex-felon does much more damage to "military cohesion" than serving with a gay person.

Get real! Just another BS Republican load of garbage... The GOP needs to protect our kids (e.g. Foley R-FL)and not worry about what consenting adults do in the bedroom.

Maybe it's the repression Republicans suffer from that makes them such secret deviants and pedophiles??
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by pudd54 October 8, 2006 3:39 PM EDT
tootoo68 has a point. what would you rather have next to you in a foxhole under combat conditions, a gay guy that can handle the stress of being gay in the military and might look at your behind, a guy who handles stress by using drugs, or an idiot that can't get out of high school nowdays?
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by ralan40 October 8, 2006 3:14 PM EDT
tootoo68 seems to feel his fellow soliders would lack disipline during combat situations. To even think someone would be "admiring his ***" during battle shows his lack of trust among his "band of Brothers". No wonder he's "ex military". Our armed services do not need the attitude tootoo68 is displaying, here any more than what he is "afraid" of.
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by tootoo68 October 8, 2006 11:46 AM EDT
As an ex-veteran I still don't want *** in the military. I want someone next to me in the foxhole protecting my ***..not admiring it.
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