freeSpeech: Brian Rohrbough

Dad Of A Columbine Victim Asks “Why Did This Happen?”

(CBS)  I'm saddened and shaken by the shooting at an Amish school today, and last week’s school murders.

When my son Dan was murdered on the sidewalk at Columbine High School on April 20, 1999, I hoped that would be the last school shooting. Since that day, I’ve tried to answer the question, "Why did this happen?"

This country is in a moral free-fall. For over two generations, the public school system has taught in a moral vacuum, expelling God from the school and from the government, replacing him with evolution, where the strong kill the weak, without moral consequences and life has no inherent value.

We teach there are no absolutes, no right or wrong. And I assure you the murder of innocent children is always wrong, including by abortion. Abortion has diminished the value of children.

Suicide has become an acceptable action and has further emboldened these criminals. And we are seeing an epidemic increase in murder-suicide attacks on our children.

Sadly, our schools are not safe. In fact, we now witness that within our schools. Our children have become a target of terrorists from within the United States.

[steve1252]

Mr. Rohrbough accurately represents my thinking - too bad the traditional media does not. I am an average citizen, why is our media focused only on one side? Fair and Balanced, hmm, where can I find that??
Thank you CBS for giving Mr Rohrbough an opportunity to voice my opinion.

[nkom-2009]

Armbar77 just claimed: "This country was founded on Godly principles. Even if some of the founding fathers were not Christian they lived in a society that was based on Christian principles."

Such as... slavery? Or genocide?

What happened to the separation of church and state?

I think most of you right-wing Christians writing here would be much more comfortable living in Iran or among the Taliban, where religion trumps human rights.

[ame65]

Thank God for the HOLY BOLDNESS of this man.It's about time a christian perspective was heard.The chritians should of spoken out in the 70's then maybe we'd still have prayer in our schools as opposed to Harry Potter and evelution.We're supposed to be a democratic society but I don't recall being given a vote on these topics.If people would vote their outside of their pocket books we'd be much better off.This country was established by Godly men on Godly principles,now let's look at the results we have gotten since the ungodly people pleasers have taken over......seen enough,I sure have.We as chritians have the same rights as everyone else and it's time we take them back.You can deny God all you want but I'd rather live for him now and find out I was wrong than to not serve him now only to die and find out how real he is...and you???!

[xymox25]

HOORAY for Mr. Rohrbough! Thank you for telling our country how it is...plain and simple...no sugar coating. Shame on you Katie Couric for pandering to your liberal audience and suggesting that his opinion could be construed as "repugnant". I'm sure you were trying to remain "unbiased" in your position...right?

I find it "repugnant" how unpatriotic, Christophobic, liberals spout out their Godless doctrines all the time but once a conservative Christian speaks their mind, they're labeled "intolerant". I suppose your definition of intolerance goes right along the lines of how dignified the liberal audience at the University of Columbia was this week when the Minutemen leadership went to speak on stage and ended up having to defend themselves physically?

Couric and CBS are pandering to the liberal agenda trying to desanitize our society by taking God, religion and morality out of any public forum so that we don't offend you "chip-on-the-shoulder" liberals- even at the sake of your ratings! Your news ratings will never compete with conservative news ratings for the same reason you liken Mr. Rohrbough's comments to being "repugnant"...you've forgotten that conservative views are MUCH MORE common than you estimate. So quit trying to sweep those opinions under the rug. Give the conservative voice the dignity it deserves.

[annelaw1]

HURRAY!!! I totally agree with Mr. Rohrbough! He has suffered so much and he is just telling it how it is! My comment is more toward CBS and Ms. Couric, who I used to be a fan of. Now I am glad that I don't watch her liberal left-winged show! How dare she say some people might find his speech "repugnant"? Get a clue lady! The majority of people in the US are Christians and have gone along with this whole separation of church and state long enough! If we as a people, continue to remove GOD from our daily lives, then we, as a people deserve what hell we bring upon ourselves! As for myself and my family, we choose to live good traditional lives, we believe that every child is a gift of God, and should not murdered. We believe in our traditions and a forgiving God. I pray for all those liberals out there, and I choose not to judge, for He will judge us all! I hope Ms. Couric remembers that the next time she tries to downplay a "free speech" segment. Looks like she needs the ratings!!

[ao190]

Free speech is our right even if we like what we hear or not. I agree that morally in our country is in a tailspin but to blame "liberals" is not being truly reflective of what the "right" should be doing. In history the pilgrims came here for freedom to pray the way they wished. Not the incredibly ridged way the europeans were enforcing there religious views (sound familiar?). We must all learn to COMPROMISE and have faith in each other. Let us be honest here we regulate NATIVE americans to reservations because "we" feel they are not "american" enough to be apart of our "christian society". In the end morallity starts at home. If you cant teach by example to your children and your neighbor, pushing an "agenda" or free speech issues is not going to change anything. We must accept and learn from one another. When we do you might see yourself in the other person.

[newsnmorenew]

The separation of government and religion in the United States has helped religion thrive in this country - and keeping the public schools non-sectarian has made them bastions of tolerance and free thought. Let's keep it that way.

[ocracokenc]

Part Two:

A good example of that failure is what is happening with free speech. Free speech only works when society has a developed, maintained and enforced sense of decency. In such a society, when someone's free speech oversteps the line of decency that is shared, there is a consequence and thus the line of decency is enforced. It's agreed upon that this shared value of decency will put some free speech out of bounds for the good of all. The most recent example of how screwed up we are is that of the Kansas "Baptist" group who planned to picket the funerals of the poor little Pennsylvania children. That particular group believes, and our present society assisted by the ACLU allows, that they have a free speech right to victimize innocent mourners because they want to protest some idiot ideas they have hallucinated together. Common sense, and any concept of decency, enables most of us to know that this situation is an absolute wrong. But we are unable to successfully address this issue as a society because we can no longer agree about %u201Cabsolute%u201D rights and wrongs.

I don%u2019t know what the answer is %u2013 but I am ready for a leader who has common sense, the ability to think critically, the skill to debate without political rhetoric and who has the backbone to move people towards solving these issues to stand up.

[ocracokenc]

Forgive the rant. But I just can%u2019t help it. It%u2019s longer than 1500 characters so look for part two.

Anyone with an IQ larger than their shoe size and a span of years long enough to have accumulated historical perspective about the country in which we live couldn't possibly miss seeing the moral and ethical tailspin we are experiencing.

They also couldn't deny the direct connection to the "socially progressive" acceptance of ideas that mirror the tailspin. I think that Walt Kelly%u2019s old quote "We have met the enemy and he is us" best describes the problem. I think the inability of our society to successfully address the questioning of the moral absolutes of %u201Cright%u201D and %u201Cwrong%u201D that will always come about when people are living in a free society is the cause. . . . .

[sunflower968]

Although I have been sounding as though I'm pro prayerin schools, I do want to clarify. I don't think prayer is the one single downfall of our society's children. Think back, how much religion has really ever been in public schools? Not much--a prayer at assemblies and events and the Pledge of Allegiance. Schools have never taught religion nor do I see it making any difference now. Nor do I think prayer belongs in schools. What I believe is that schools should not attempt to shut out God--not discourage nor encourage nor have any programs directly related to faith/God/religion.
I believe in separation of church and state. It is essential to our society. However, God has also been proven essential to our society from the beginning. We are creatures of God. 8 to 3 or 8 to 5 workers or students, we take God everywhere we go. We shouln't pretend otherwise. The anti-God sentiment is my biggest problem with the liberal argument. Bottom line is, children are apathetic and have no sense of self worth, no value for life. Our children are bored, misguided, undisciplined, spoiled, ungrateful and not taught respect. Those things are taught from birth. Our problem is not one or two tangible things. Our problem is within every aspect of our society from the tangible to the intangible. We want what we want when we want it, convenience, impatience and self-centeredness. We don't care about our fellow human beings unless they affect our own lives.

[bilbee3]

"KUDOS" to Brian Rohrbough for STANDING UP and SPEAKING OUT on "ABORTION"!He spoke so eloquently, I pray more people will be inspired by what he said and come to the TRUTH about abortion and the damage it continues to do to our society!!! Wake Up America!!!!

[gslinger3]

It should come as no surprise to any conservative minded person that Mr. Rohrbough's comments would be villianized. Remember where we are viewing this at CBS News, the most liberally biased network of them all. If we conservatives invade "their house" we should expect to be attacked. I am proud that so many conservatives are willing to speak out for the truth. I am equally pleased that CBS has opened their doors to allow our point of view to be heard, maybe there is hope after all! Hopefully they will not have second thoughts on the matter and just as quickly close the door!

[cohuttafoxma]

In response to Sangerin 1 oct 6 2006
The man did not force his opinion on anybody!We all have the right to voice our opinion on TV or at home. Especially when he was invited to be interviewed for his opinion!
My opinion is............. you are a IDIOT!

[dodie1957]

Just an observation. Have any of you "educated liberals" stopped for a minute to look back into the history of this nation-I'm talking recent history. If you cannot see the moral collapse of our society since the godly principles have been diluted by liberal doctrine over the past 50 years I really question your education. You have blinders on! In rebuttal to the comments about enlightened european countries-they were not founded on christian principles as was the USA. In a time where there were very decisive boundaries between right and wrong we didn't have the pervasive evil that is now pervading our society. In a scientific experiment you observe cause and effect don't you?
I am well aware that we who believe in godly principles and believe in moral absolutes are probably not going to sway you "enlightend" people but we are entitled to our beliefs and opinions. But we're out here, sadly a silent majority for the most part. And guess what, you people who are so intent on pointing out how "uneducated" we are, are not going to sway us either.

[fredomearned]

jerry753- You say that creationist attack the theory of evolution...of course they do, they don't believe it's true and it goes against their faith. Would you have Muslims accept a theory that Muhammad wasn't God's final prophet? It's called faith. What I believe their point is that that we are missing something in our schools. Religion teaches values, right from wrong, and those types of things...we don't have that. And because something is widely accepted, even if supported by evidence...it's still a theory. An evolutionist%u2019s belief in the theory is their "faith."

How would you explain the violence and chaos and the breakdown of our American conscience? What is the cause of the Columbines? Just looking for your opinion, you're entitled to one just like EVERYONE else.

[fredomearned]

sangerin1- I don't know where this man was educated but he was 32, younger than I am. I was educated in public schools and if he was too, he received these, as you put it, "godless teachings" just like I did. I don't know what his educational background was, do you? But more to my point, it seems that free speech is OK by you, as long as it doesn't challenge your thinking. Maybe MLK should have realized his words were just "abuse of opportunity" as you put it. Freedom of speech is just that, the Freedom to express your opinions, thoughts and ideas. Let everyone enjoy it as much as you do. If you don't like what you hear, change the channel.

[jeffinwi1]

Ooops. meant Pascal's Wager. :)
The bottom line is, is a pleasurable,secular life of even 100 years worth it if it means spending an eternity in hell? 100 years (and most don't live beyond 80) is but a brief second compared to eternity.
Read Romans and John for the true path to salvation. Time is short and Satan knows this as well . That's why he's trying to drag as many as possible down with him by all the deceit he has put forth in this world.

[jeffinwi1]

Jerry,it only goes to show the Truth of Jesus' words(you mentioning Wagner being refuted a million times)if a million people refute it, they are on the wide path to hell, and say if 1000 believe it, that's the narrow path to heaven.
Lucy,piltdown man and neanderthal man have also been proven hoaxes,yet, evilutionist continue to look for another missing link. It's not a link they seek, it's the whole chain.

[borntwice-2009]

The truth is incontrivertible. And it always wins out. You can't disprove Pascal's wager. All who believe that there is life after death, also believe in God. If you believe in Satan, remember, he believes in God.

[jcspastar]

I was sick when I saw what happened on Monday with the horrible murders of the little Amish girls. I was angered and I wanted revenge on their behalf. When I saw Mr. Rohrbough%u2019s Free Speech message frankly I was shocked. I was hearing what has been in my heart and what I believe needs to resound throughout this nation.
The US is in a moral vacuum where the existence of God is debated like some science project. When someone chooses to ignore the truth of God or his sovereignty they begin hardening their hearts toward God ending in separation from God. I firmly believe this is the root of our many morally compromised issues in this country. God gives everyone the capacity to understand Him, as well as the free will to choose whether to pursue that knowledge. The truth is His existence is written into every person's conscience. But too many people ignore reality b/c it interferes with their preferred lifestyle. I agree with Mr. Rohrbough that his country is in a moral free-fall. Our society can see it clearly in our schools with child predators, violence, race issues, and mediocrity and so on. For me the choice is clear, having God in my life to guide me each day is far better than what the entire world has to offer and my children are too precious.

The Amish seem to be a very loving and peace going community. Their forgiveness and outreach to the shooter%u2019s family should not be forgotten.