Sept. 22, 2006

The Pro-Torture Pact

The Nation: McCain Again Capitulates To Bush

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(The Nation)  This column was written by Ari Berman.
Democrats chose to outsource their policy on military tribunals to John McCain. And McCain did what he's done best the last year: capitulate to Bush.

"Senators Snatch Defeat From Jaws of Victory: U.S. to be First Nation to Authorize Violations of Geneva," Georgetown University law professor Marty Lederman writes of the so-called "compromise" between Senators McCain/Graham/Warner and President Bush.

Says Caroline Fredrickson, Director of the ACLU's Washington legislative office:
"The proposal would make the core protections of Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions irrelevant and unenforceable. It deliberately provides a 'get out of jail free card' to the administration's top torture officials, and backdates that card nine years.

"Also under the proposal, the president would have the authority to declare what is — and what is not — a grave breach of the War Crimes Act, making the president his own judge and jury. This provision would give him unilateral authority to declare certain torture and abuse legal and sound. In a telling move, during a call with reporters today, National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley would not even answer a question about whether waterboarding would be permitted under the agreement.

"The agreement would also violate time-honored American due process standards by permitting the use of evidence coerced through cruel and abusive treatment. We urge lawmakers to stand firm in their commitment to American values and reject this charade of a compromise."
Adds the Washington Post editorial page:
"In effect, the agreement means that U.S. violations of international human rights law can continue as long as Mr. Bush is president, with Congress's tacit assent."
In the end, McCain got loads of admiring press coverage. And Bush got almost everything he wanted.


Ari Berman, based in Washington, D.C., is a contributing writer for The Nation, a contributor to The Notion and a Puffin Foundation writing fellow at The Nation Institute.


By Ari Berman
Reprinted with permission from The Nation.



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by russellvbrla September 22, 2006 4:43 PM PDT
Nice going Mr. McCain. I guess being a POW in Vietnam wasn't so bad afterall. Freakin liar, just like all the rest of your ilk. I hope Karl Rove takes you down again like he did in South Carolina in 2000.

Some hero!
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by tejasdemo September 22, 2006 6:13 PM PDT
I actually thought John McCain was a decent guy even though I know Republicans are just a bunch of crooks and liars. Not anymore. Torture is wrong period. Congratulations zeros.
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by comfortmd September 22, 2006 9:19 PM PDT
they just didn't want Bush to get impeached and take a bunch of neocons down with him
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by manner6 September 22, 2006 9:36 PM PDT

All the old World WarII movies showed us how horribly evil the Japanese and Germans were because they TORTURED enemy soldiers.We Americans didn't do that--period. No sleezy, hypocritical exceptions. Senator McCain and Co., you should be very, very ashamed.
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by ronniehm September 22, 2006 10:27 PM PDT
If McCain, as a POW, can support it, it's not a pro-torture pact.
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by hsmagst September 23, 2006 3:20 AM PDT
Doesn't the whole thing hinge on degree? I mean stripping a person and putting a dog collar on them is so much different than cutting off a finger. Shaving there head and beard is pretty benign compared to slitting their throat or cutting off their head. I really don't care if an enemy combatant is tortured if it saves one american servicemans life. I think McCain is aware of the differences.
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by mrcodpiece September 23, 2006 7:24 AM PDT
I was sure McCain had more brass.
Instead, he rolls over for the GOP.
Very sad.
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by September 23, 2006 9:48 AM PDT
Of course this is utterly dreadful. And it will come back to haunt us all. On the day [which is coming] that someone who has nothing to do with Islam is declared to be a "terrorist" and therefore deprived of due process of law, the last scrap of what made this country worth something in the world will be gone. Period.
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by mperkel September 23, 2006 10:11 AM PDT
The Church of Reality is the first religion to issue an edict against torture. I'm hoping that other religions will come out and state that torture is wrong.

http://www.churchofreality.org/wisdom/current_event_edicts/

What is the different between our torture camps and Nazi concentration camps? In time there will be no difference. McCain is a total wimp.
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by ronniehm September 23, 2006 6:01 PM PDT
Not much tolerance for a variety of opinions in the Democratic party, huh. Got plenty of folks on both sides of the issue in the GOP. We'll take him.
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by getcentered September 23, 2006 7:16 PM PDT
All that call themselves Republicans' are worried to death about losing their powers. They need alliances badly. There is good reason too. Most Americans know, the Republicans of today are incompetent when making decisions that affect their lives.

So the GOP has to pull the only card they have left, "terror". If they can't show unity on "terror", then they know they'll lose big in the November elections.

Americans are dying in various countries and I hope in the up coming elections that "we the people" vote new blood into Congress. Those who can unite our country, not divide us. Those who make intelligent decisions based on facts not assumptions. Leaders who are willing to put their heads together and help solve the numerous problems Americans face today.

We cannot keep the status quo. Americans need to vote with their minds and not their emotions so Congress can be made up of leaders that will do the same. Get centered, and then vote smart.
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by getcentered September 23, 2006 7:19 PM PDT
All that call themselves Republicans' are worried to death about losing their powers. They need alliances badly. There is good reason too. Most Americans know, the Republicans of today are incompetent when making decisions that affect their lives.

So the GOP has to pull the only card they have left, "terror". If they can't show unity on "terror", then they know they'll lose big in the November elections.

Americans are dying in various countries and I hope in the up coming elections that "we the people" vote new blood into Congress. Those who can unite our country, not divide us. Those who make intelligent decisions based on facts not assumptions. Leaders who are willing to put their heads together and help solve the numerous problems Americans face today.

We cannot keep the status quo. Americans need to vote with their minds and not their emotions so Congress can be made up of leaders that will do the same. Get centered, and then vote smart.
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by ronniehm September 23, 2006 8:06 PM PDT
Heard that in 2002 ... and 2004 ...
Win one before you claim to know what America wants.
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by getcentered September 23, 2006 10:34 PM PDT
Thank you "RonnieHM" for helping with my point.

We should not be voting to "Win".

We should vote to have our government made of leaders with intelligence, competence, and that proactively engage in creating understanding and compromise.

Not bullies who just want to win.
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by sharncedar September 23, 2006 10:40 PM PDT
"I hope in the up coming elections that "we the people" vote new blood into Congress"

Dude, you are not paying attention. There are only two names on the ballot for most positions. One of those names is recognized by the voter, that is the incumbent. Since they were little kids, they were taught by 2,000 repetitions that when given a multiple choice, mark the anser you recognize. This is the central theme of all public education - here is a list of things, mark the one you recognize.

So the voters go into the booth, and press the button next to the name they recognize. The only way an incumbent can lose is if his opponent has the name of someone who used to be elected, or is famous somehow.

Millions and millions of people can be informed, intelligent voters, but the other millions and millions who think it is another multiple choice test cancle your vote. Remember that most Americans, unlike news wonks like us (seeing that you are reading news on the Internet) don't even know what Congress is, what its duties are, what is the house or the senate, or what the people do whom they elect, other than the president whom they vaguely believe will be some kind of king.

95% of incumbents are re-elected in the last few elections. They will continue to be, until we have ballot reform, which means all candidates are write-in. Then, you would have to at least remember the name of the person you are voting for.
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by ronniehm September 23, 2006 10:55 PM PDT
OK, getcentered, you're not trying to (sigh) "win." You just want Republicans to lose, and you'll take whatever comes with that ... which coincidentally happens to be a win for Democrats. Point cleared up.
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by glassyeyed4-2009 September 24, 2006 12:27 AM PDT
People, we better wake up. Bush and Crew are leading all of us down a path of no return. V for Vendettta should be required viewing for every man, women, and child is the US and it will help those of us that can't see, what is really happening. Also read Hegemony of Survival: America's Quest for Global Dominantion. Have you notice that all of us are in danger not only from the terrorists but moreso from our own Government? It is past time for us to seek relief before we are all classified as terrorists because we will not at hear to the Government line of BS. Bush lied to us and the World to get us where we are at now and those in Congress just keep making a way for him to drop this Country back into the Dark Age. Where torture was the only game in town.
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by ronniehm September 24, 2006 12:55 AM PDT
Well now that's priceless ... someone quoting Hugo Chavez talking about danger from the government. The left has gone nuts.
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by September 24, 2006 3:13 AM PDT
Where are the independent Republicans? There are none, certainly not McCain or Warner. We need a Congress who will stand up to this president. Bush has proved himself to be thoroughly incompetent in all areas. How can he be trusted to decide anything, much less what constitutes torture. Bush is leading this country down a slippery slope...he is a chicken hawk who thumps the Bible spouting the word democracy at every turn while he subverts our democratic ideals, a man who has made monumental mistakes as president and who has lied our way into a futile war in Iraq destroying that country and robbing those people of hope to live out their lives in a modicum of safety. Where are the voices of dissent on torture? I can't hear them, either from the press or from Congress.
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by itchybrain September 24, 2006 9:05 AM PDT
The biggest problem in this country today is people like RonnieHM and his ilk. He has absolutely no grasp of history and has certainly lost the meaning of being an American... we're supposed to be the good guys. Perhaps he should wear jack boots and a swaztika to show his true colors.
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by ProudPrimate September 24, 2006 11:00 AM PDT
glassyeyed4 --

You are right on all your points:
1. Torture must be sent packing back to the Middle Ages
2. We are being lied to at a scale unimaginable even in the most corrupt administrations of the past, e.g., Ulysses S. Grant and Warren G. Harding
3. On being classified as terrorists, we should all be aware that PRIVATE COMPANIES will be taking over the role of enforcement troops in the next "emergency" and that KBR (Halliburton) has been paid our money to refurbish Concentration Camps, over 800 in this country, as yet empty and unused (see http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm )

A couple of spelling errors, though, I should mention: Domination rather than Dominantion, and (you have a good ear) what you heard as "at hear" is actually the Latin word "adhere", [adhaero, adhaeri, adhaesum] where we get "adherent" and "adhesive", to cleave or stick to a thing. [ http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3D%23771 ]
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by ProudPrimate September 24, 2006 11:16 AM PDT
RonnieHM --

typical Reich Wing comment: only slander, no specifics: "Well now that's priceless ... someone quoting Hugo Chavez talking about danger from the government. The left has gone nuts."

Every specific point made by Chavez in his speech at the UN is based on facts (well known to the informed, not to everybody, more's the pity). Thanks to the still-not-yet-crippled Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), as attorney Eva Golinger says at the top of her website [ http://www.venezuelafoia.info/english.html ]
THE PROOF IS IN THE DOCUMENTS: THE CIA WAS INVOLVED IN THE COUP AGAINST VENEZUELAN PRESIDENT CHAVEZ.

The CIA was forced (by that US law that the Bush Crime Family is trying desperately to sabotage) to turn over these self-incriminating documents.

I suggest you surf over there and get someone to read them to you. Don't try it yourself: too many big words -- you'll just get discouraged.

But for those who would like to study the speech in detail, I have prepared a dual language version at http://home.gwi.net/~jscarp/ChavezUN.htm -- the audio in Spanish is also there, but I recommend you right-click the speaker icon and choose Save As..., then play it in your default media player.
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by ProudPrimate September 24, 2006 12:03 PM PDT
For a quick, clear, and comprehensive summary of the REALITY THE BUSHIES DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW about the coup against Chavez in 2002, listen to this clip of Wayne Madsen on the Randi Rhodes program (length=6:32) http://premium.airamericaradio.com/clip.php?id=2707
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by ronniehm September 24, 2006 1:19 PM PDT
OK Hugo, whatever you say.
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