Senate Defies Bush On Terror Bill

GOP-Led Committee Approves Detainee Law Opposed By President

(CBS/AP)  A rebellious Senate committee defied President Bush on Thursday and approved terror-detainee legislation he has vowed to block, deepening Republican conflict over terrorism and national security in the middle of election season.

Republican Sen. John Warner of Virginia, normally a Bush supporter, pushed the measure through his Armed Services Committee by a 15-9 vote, with Warner and three other GOP lawmakers joining Democrats. The vote set the stage for a showdown on the Senate floor as early as next week.

Joining Warner was Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who told CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric that the president's bill as it stands could put U.S. soldiers in danger. "Men and women in the military could be placed in jeopardy if we amend the Geneva Conventions," McCain said.

When asked if he envisioned a damaging political rift in the Republican party over the issue, McCain told Couric he is mainly concerned with the safety of soldiers. "Day-to-day politics pale in comparison to that situation," he said.

Earlier in the day, Mr. Bush had journeyed to the Capitol to try nailing down support for his own version of the legislation.

"I will resist any bill that does not enable this program to go forward with legal clarity," Mr. Bush said at the White House.

The president's measure would go further than the Senate package in allowing classified evidence to be withheld from defendants in terror trials, using coerced testimony and protecting U.S. interrogators against prosecution for using methods that violate the Geneva Conventions.

The treatment of detainees has long dogged the Bush Administration. ever since abuses at Abu Ghraib. Since then the military has gone out of its way to show detainees at Guantanamo are treated humanely, reports CBS News correspondent Sharyl Attkisson.

The internal GOP struggle intensified along other fronts, too, as Colin Powell, Mr. Bush's first secretary of state, declared his opposition to the president's plan.

"The world is beginning to doubt the moral basis of our fight against terrorism," Powell, a retired general who is also a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, wrote in a letter.

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Colin Powell's letter to Sen. John McCain (.pdf)

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Powell joined opponents to that legislation who argue it would undermine the Geneva Conventions, further hurt America's image in the world and put future American POWs at greater risk, CBS News correspondent Bob Fuss reports.

Firing back, White House spokesman Tony Snow said Powell was confused about the White House plan. Later, Snow said he probably shouldn't have used that word.

"I know that Colin Powell wants to beat the terrorists, too," he said.

Countering Powell's letter, the administration produced one from the current secretary of state to Warner. In it, Condoleezza Rice wrote that narrowing the standards for detainee treatment as Bush has proposed "would add meaningful definition and clarification to vague terms in the treaties."

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[drgoodwin12]

Is this just political manuevering for the campaigns or are the senators looking at their conscience?If only three republicans oppose it,despite what the supreme court has ruled does that mean that the supreme court is wrong? This war on terror is not going to be won by forced confessions (they may not be accurate)or by hearsay.Your own neighbor,coworker could concoct any story they like if they are just mean spirited individuals. No it will not be won with these types of legal actions.The war on terror has to be fought with (a) good intelligence(b)a program designed to prevent individuals from wanting to become terrorist.(c)Finally with bullets and bombs. An after thought is our mideast policy ever been conducive to prevent terror groups. Answer no,not during any adminstration in the last 50 years,maybe never.

[fbultaco]

"Give me your tired, your poor -
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."

It seems like the current administration has never heard those words that made America the beacon of liberty to the entire world instead of the #1 imperialist. Sad.

[alphaa10-2009]

Cheney must be going crazier than usual-- these "al Qaeda" sympathizers are springing up everywhere! In even Warner's office, not to mention those well-known Qaeda-simps Graham and McCain.

What's the world coming to? The thin line of patriots holding the line on Iraq is melting... melting away. You never can find a good fascist when you need one.

[dfass405-2009]

This is ridiculous that people should equate terrorists with domestic criminals. Terrorists have information that could save countless lives, domestic criminals ussually commit crimes for personal gain and have no network. These terrorists commit crimes "to the glory of Allah". We are facing a completely different type of enemy and a completely different prisoner. Many of these prisioners have said they will kill the families of the guards if they ever get out. The only way they will get out is if the democrats get their way.

[dfass405-2009]

in response to fbultaco. I dont recall hearing "give me the middle eastern citizens that would love to destroy this land and her people, give me your terrorists that kill mercilessly, give me those who would love to do away with our freedom and subject us to Islamic law". We need to realize that these people are not immagrants they

[dfass405-2009]

they are terrorists.

[luvny-2009]

Sadly we as a country are as divided now as we've ever been. If things go as planned by our administration then we will be no better than the people we are condemning. We don't have a president we have a wannabee dictator who seems to be getting what HE wants. I am ashamed of what we are becoming. In the last 5+ years I have seen things that I would have never believed. We the US have hit the bee's nest with a big stick and now have attracted many more bee's. Had we thought through it and approached it carefully and with a plan, we along with others would have had much better control. We have created a breeding ground with no end in site and it's our own fault. "Mission Accomplished" not even close. Never have I seen so much lying about so many different things. Yes Sadam was an awful person and needed to be stopped but not when we did. We needed to concentrate on Osama as all fingers pointed to him for the terrorist attacks not Sadam. We were all duped. Bush took how we felt in our hearts after 9/11 and used it to get the ok for going after Osama and then ran with it for control of oil in Iraq using Sadam as his excuse. Interesting thought also, Bush said God called him to be President (anyone else that would have said that would be in a padded room) and our enemies say God tells them to kill, personally I think their BOTH nuts!

[dfass405-2009]

People like "luvNY" apparently have no comprehension of the situation at hand. This person said "If things go as planned by our administration then we will be no better than the people we are condemning." It is obvious that if things DONT go according to the administrations "plans" THAN we will be no better than our enemy because we will all be walking around with Islamic guards patrolling the streets beating people for not obeying there fascists law. Unfortunately the current administration is not doing enough to make sure this does not happen, but they are the best we have. We should have gone into war the objective of full destruction of the enemy! Since we did not do that we are playing a game of *** for tat. We take some of your lives you get some of ours, NO that is not how we are supposed to fight a war. That is wrong our military is risking their lives to fight this war and we owe it to them to destroy the enemy wherever they are. Also we have not "created" a breeding ground for Islamicfascists, if you knew any history you would realize that they have been there for years. In fact if it wasnt for them we would not be in America today. Christopher Columbus never would have sought an alternate route to the Indies if the Islamofascist did not ban western travelers. We never would have had the Renaissance because the Greek intellectuals never would have fled for their lives out of the Muslim countries into Europe. You see so they have always been there.

[stevyz1]

its time for accountability!! fire rumsfeld..impeach bush cheney..then try them as war criminals....jail our failed leaders!!

[dfass405-2009]

The crusades were also a reaction against IslamicFascism. If you want more info on this read The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam by Robert Spencer. In order to defeat this primitive, but formidable enemy, we need to use every weapon in our arsenal. The major hindrance to succeeding in this war is Extreme-Left in America. They need to stop offering their heads to the enemy and at least agree that we are at war and that we need to implement things that will save thousands of innocent lives. If they wont do it for America they can at least do it to possibly save their own lives.

[luvny-2009]

Thanks dfass405 you made some good points, some I agree with and some I don't. Right now we are being told that we are unpatriot if we disagree with the president. The emails we have sent is a great example of our rights. I respect your point of view and please respect mine. QUOTE:
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." Teddy Roosevelt

[spitzra1]

Wake up! We are talking about terror extremest who have only one purpose. If it saves innocent lives, then do what it takes to eliminate this threat.

[clestes-2009]

We will become no better than they if we allow this abomination to pass. No one can seriously think it is OK to toture a prisoner and then believe what they say under torture. I would think the Spanish Inquisition would have taught that, or how about the Salem Witch trials.

And the idea of using evidence against a prisoner and they cannot see it?? How can they expected to refute it or prove their innocence? People cannot believe that all suspected terrorist are really terrorist? Look at all the prisoners at Guantomino. 95% of them have never been charged with anything. Because they have no proof of any wrong doing.

Right now the US armed forces are having a really difficult time getting recruits. As a result the armed forces of full of people who would never have been allowed to join under different circumstances. That makes for a poor army. If we allow torture, then the armed forces will have an even harder time getting recruits because the young men and women will know that if they are captured by ANYONE they will be sujected to the same torture as we apply to our prisoners.

The Geneva Convention was created for a reason.
Why do you think all these generals and admirals are against this bill?

[dfass405-2009]

luvNY I understand what you are saying, but I think in a time of war some do our country and our service men a diservice when they say president is no different than those they are fighting. This is exactly the propaganda the enemy uses to fuel their hate. We all know the president is not out to kill as many innocent people as possible simply because they are a different nationality and/or religion. In fact they even passed up a chance to kill aprox 190 taliban because they were at a funeral and now these same taliban are probably gonna plant roadside bombs and kill our men. They are almost trying to hard to not kill those who mingle with the enemy. I think that since we are now at war we should all support those who are fighting it and also support the mission that they are there for, because they would not be there without the mission. We would never have won WWII if we fought that war the same way way we fight this war We also would not have won WWII if the media was comparing death tolls and Politicizing the war like they are today.

[dfass405-2009]

clestes, you said "We will become no better than they if we allow this abomination to pass" Where to start, how can you say we will be no different??? We are taking great pains to decide how should treat these absolute, sick, discusting, death loving, women hating, freedom hating, American Hating, racis, scum bags. How can any one stick up for these abombinations. Do you realize what these people want to do??? We are talking about hmmmm, should we "torture" them (if you want to call it that). Sure we in America think this is horrible we are taught to think everyone is good and that every one thinks like we do and that everyone wants freedom. These people could have information that could prevent massive attacks in the US possiby even nuclear attacks wich can utterly destroy everything in a 70 mile radius and cause up to 200 mile/hr winds and kill countless people. WAKE UP that is what these people in these prisons would do in a heart beat if they could. If that did happen and some captured terrorist had info on another attack would you still object??? So why wait until an attack, lets nip it in the bud now before it does happen.

[baddog777]

Hmm. Okay. So, if it's okay to torture them, at what point do we draw the line? Waterboarding? Beating? Cutting off of ears and noses? Forcing them to watch while atrocities are committed against their families?

It would seem that a lot of people would lead us to believe the end justifies the means.

[luvny-2009]

dfass405 .. you stated:
I think that since we are now at war we should all support those who are fighting it (absolutely and wanting an end to it and bringing our Men & Women home is supporting them or are you saying they want to be there and get shot at every day, We need a whole new approach with assistance from other counties because this hand to hand *** will not work and they recruit new people everyday. Bush screwed up plain and simple FACE IT. We need a whole new plan ) and also support the mission that they are there for, ( thought W'ya said the reason we went there was to remove Sadam and his WMD's which he never had and Sadam has been removed, remember him in his photo op 19 miles off shore with the cameras pointing out so no one could see how close he was to land "Mission Accomplished") because they would not be there without the mission. and the mission was...is your last name Bush?...end of conversation

[dfass405-2009]

jh6379, wow your post is filled with so much support for your argument. I really learned alot. Look im not saying cut off noses and stuff, baddog777. You bring up a good point that im sure needs to be discussed. We do need to draw the line somewhere. We are at war right now and we have done things in the past and it has no been a snowball efect. We know when to implement things and when to stop, for instance WWII when we rounded up the Japanese people and monitored them we stopped after the war. And I am not saying we should do that or anything like that but i am using it as an example of drawing the line. It was deemed necessary in a time of war, so we did it and stopped afterward. But yoou do bring up a very good point.

[urxlncy]

There is one thing I can understand and even heard on radio that if this bill is approved the soldiers caught by the enemy will adopt a similar
strategy and would like to set their own ways of getting information. You see! So these Geneva convention and UN, even though we don't like them but is better to work with them.
You know what this is a political move to divert people's attention. I am sure they will come up with some statement from someone in Gitmo that Iran or some country has a nuke already or a dangerous bomb or something. My question is how long can you be fed Fear. Remember all this time we were told about hidden threats nothing but threats by these politicians. I don't criticize the people. I critize the liberalism and the vulnerability of the people for fear about effects on their freedom. Which is a capitalizing point to the Politicians to do their business.

[clestes-2009]

Look, dfass405 I know exactly what I am talking about. You are looking at them as "absolute, sick, discusting, death loving, women hating, freedom hating, American Hating, racis, scum bags".

Don't you understand that they are looking at us as "sick, disgusting, child killing, girl raping, murdering, blasphemers, racist animals that have no idea of who we are or what we live by."

It is all a matter of perspective.

Do you know anything about US foreign policy towards the Middle East? I would guess not. You think these people just woke up one day and said I hate the US for their freedoms, the way woman vote and their rock and roll?

The following is just a short list of harm the US has caused the Middle East and Iran in particular.

1. Iran in 1953 The US organized overthrow of their democratically elected offical and installed the Shah, who was universally hated by the Iranians. He was more brutal than Saddam and ruled over Iran for 25 years.

2. Iraq 1990's We pushed for sanctions that included NO MEDICINES that cost the lives of 100,000 babies.

3.Iraq 1990 We encouraged ***** Muslims to revolt against Saddam by promising them help. Bush Sr. decided, OOPs don't think so. Saddam slaughtered 100,000 *****.

To continue...

[clestes-2009]

continued...


4.We go to their countries, uninvited and break all sorts of taboos that we never bother to learn about, because we think Christianity is the only religion and they must be BACKWARD to pray 5 times a day. Did you know that the Muslim religion is older than Christianity by about 1000 years?

My point is this. If Iran did to the US what the US has done to Iran for the past 50 years, we would attacking them too.

Try doing your homework before you get online to sound off so you know what you are talking about. I suggest "All the Shah's Men" as a starting book. You will never look at the CIA the same again.

[luvny-2009]

Nice job clestes ...maybe some of these people (dfass405) will get off their ponies and put away their cap guns and go take their nap now :-)

If the American electorate cannot see the harm these people are doing to us then we must accept the consequences.

[clestes-2009]

Thank you luvNY.

[clestes-2009]

For all you bloggers out there that think we are justified in treating prisoners of war like animals, try reading my earlier remarks.

I say it again. We are reaping trouble from the trouble we sowed when we starting messing in Middle East affairs starting back in the 1920's. Ambassadors to the middle east have been predicting this scenario for years.

[dfass405-2009]

luvNY? You liberals want our soldiers to shoot cap guns at the enemy, I want to to hit them hard and KILL as many as possible, hopefully all of them. You liberals rant and rave how we treat these poor poor terrorist so badly and yet you show no mercy to inocent unborn children. You declare war on walmart, the number 1 retailer in America and you support terrorist rights. Come on lets get real here, all you do is let the conservatives do the work and research on the issues than you liberals take the opposite side. Wake up, George Bush has won two elections in a row, The republicans control the government by POPULAR DEMAND and all liberals can do is throw temper tantrums and rant and rave about TV shows (THAT IS WHY CONSERVATIVES WILL CONTINUE TO WIN THE VOTES FROM AMERICANS) instead of focusing on SOLUTIONS to problems. AT LEAST CONSERVATIVES CAN OFFER SOLUTIONS, not just criticize.

[lukebize]

The Geneva Accords were passed after long years of war atrocities. Pretending it never happened or that it "wasn't so bad" won't keep it from happening again. The United States is not immune.

The proposed Bush legislation literally paves the way for torture of incarcerated Americans at home and abroad, as well as "terror suspects". In exactly the same way, our secret prisons have allowed holding individuals without any evidence of wrongdoing, merely on suspicion.

Allowing this legislation to pass is an open invitation to secretly arrest and/or torture accused Americans within borders of the U.S.

This kind of legislation is in fact a test of public acceptance. If Americans accept (or even in some cases, _promote_) this kind of unconstitutional injustice against foreign nationals, it is a clear indicator to politicians everywhere that we are also prepared to allow it against our neighbors, our families and all other fellow citizens whether or not they have actually done anything wrong.

[dfass405-2009]

Celeste, they have hated us and will always hate us. READ THE KORAN. You think they are just making up all this stuff, I have done years of research on this stuff. Read the Koran once. It is clear where they get these ideas. They have been doing this since the founding of their religion. Whether they misinterpret the Koran or not is irrelevant the fact is many many of them throughout history have come to the same conclusion about Jews and westerners. America did provoke this you are right, we provoked this by not converting to Islam. The only way they will accept us is if we convert to Islam and practice sharia law period. So if you want to be subjected to Sharia Law, than keep promoting these truly SICK terrorist extremists. Do some research don%u2019t just give liberal psychobabble.

[dfass405-2009]

AND ISLAM IS NOT OLDER THAN CHRISTIANITY!!! Christianity is at least 610 and 632 years older. So get your "facts" right.

[dfass405-2009]

610 to 632 years older

[dfass405-2009]

AND THEY LOOK AT US AS WHAT CELESTE, I think you didnt mean "sick, disgusting, child killing, girl raping, murdering, blasphemers, racist animals that have no idea of who we are or what we live by" but they told us what they think we are INFIDELS. That is Jews and Christians. That is why they hate us not because of anything else. Do you listen to the Al Queda videos? They tell us exactly what they think, In fact you sound like the "American" in Al Queda Adam Ghadhan who uses the DNC talking points to get his message accross.

[annabanana-1]

The America that the administration envisions is not the beacon of truth and hope that she was meant to be. We must never stand for torture and indefinite incarceration, and agression. That is not the American Spirit. We cannot thrive if we cannot stand in the light.

[dfass405-2009]

lol, name calling another respectable liberal.

[clestes-2009]

You really don't get it do you. I will put it another way.

The year is 1920. Canada says, instead of being one country I am going to divide you up into 50 states. Then I am going to overthrow your democratically elected president and put in the Shah. I will also place Canada troops there to make sure he stays in power. The Shah will saw down all your forests and sell the lumber to me at whatever price I say.

The troops will also use your churches as their gameroom. Some of the troops will get a little overly friendly with your woman, get over it.

You don't like that, stuff it. I am going to do what I want.

We rebel after 25 years of this, and take some Canadians hostage. The hostage crisis ends. However instead of the moderate president we had before you messed with us, we now have a radical fundamentalist who puts back 100 years.

Are you understanding now? Osama Bin Laden has never made any secret of the reason for his attacks. Zacharia Moussoui said the same thing, it all comes down to US foreign policy.

You see, we Americans think we are so great that we can do anything to anyone we want. You have a natural resource we need. OK if you will not give it to us reasonably, we will take it.

It all comes down to money and oil. That is the only reason we have messed with the Middle East. When we became addicted to oil, they became important enough to interfere with.

Now, we have a major problem with foreign countries and not just the middle east ones either.

[dfass405-2009]

give some support couldnt care less what you call me just make an argument for your case. I am not a liberal i dont care what people think of me, that does not determine my ppolitical views, I use logic, common sense, and realistic thinking. That is always more effective than name calling and temper tantrums

[bgta-2009]

Colin Powell is a stateman and a war veteran who served this incompetent and inept president well. Neither Bush, his administration nor many of those in congress have served in the military. And probably none of their children have or are serving. George Bush is not a veteran because service in the National Guard does not qualify as a veteran unless activated for war. The one thing Bush did for the National Guard is to allow them to become eligible for veteran's benefits by sending them to war. Thanks George

[clestes-2009]

Asking you to read is hardly calling you a name or a temper tantrum. I am pointing our what experienced diplomats and politicans have been saying for years.

This problem is rooted in our foreign policy.

I'll say it again.

This problem is rooted in our foreign policy.

Until we change our attitudes toward other countries, we will continue to suffer these kinds of crisis. And it will eventually lead to our downfall. I have said many times that only an international coalition can bring be used to bring stability to a country or region.

Don't believe everything you read either. Check it out by reading other sources on a subject too. How many hours a day did you say you read again?

[mmaarrs]

For anyone that lives and believes other than the dysfunctional myths of Judism, Islam, and Chistianity, the continuing attrocity that is the middle east IS the direct result of this unholy trinity. Thus is it any surprise all three myths have a common genesis? The nations that are held in the dysfunctional trance of these there myths or memes, the US, Britain, Israel, and all other Western nations, have engaged in all sorts of torture since their inception, though with one important distinction; it is all done, mostly contrary to the "rules", in hush-hush behind closed doors. In re: Today's "Gitmo", yesterday's "Tiger Cages" in Viet Nam, Eisenhower's staravtion of German POWs after WWII, Britain's torture of German prisoners thoughout WWI and WWII (takes one to know one - through all that time Britain has been ruled by a rival German House, the Windsors), and the endless torture attrocities carried out by Israel since its torturous inception.

Thus, given torture is inevitable, and given the propensity for human nature to be swayed by myth, the solution to the torture matter is rather simple:

Any signatory to the torture group accord is welcome to torture as they please (the "terrorists" do as they please because they have not "signed' on to Geneva, et cet, n'est pas?) with one simple caveat. All torture, however extreme, is to be photographed in IMAX and distributed via live sattelite feed to all news media, foriegn and domestic.

Let the chips fall where they may . . .

[dfass405-2009]

Celeste, Im sorry. I was not talking about you I was talking about this comment "dfass: typical winger frothing at the mouth.:People like you and your raving lunacy are a joke and funny to watch.

[lukebize]

Posted by FARTKNOCKER2 at 01:33 PM : Sep 14, 2006:

"Sorry I must have missed when the terrorist signed off on Genva Convention and agreed to Article #3 ."

What has this got to do with American behavior? America DID agree to the Convention in its entirety.

"Last I saw they gave no quarter."

Yes, and now the Bush administration pushes America to be more and more like them. Who is the enemy?

"So now Powell along with the DNC wants us to go to battle with one leg tied,arms in hang cuffs ."

Bloated hyperbole. The Bush administration _chose_ to make this a military struggle, when in fact, victory belongs to the intelligence and police agencies (who, by the way, are the sole agencies thus far effective against terrorist plots, if you believe the Bush/Cheney cabal story). All the allied military are doing in Iraq is burning money, destroying innocent lives (both American and foreign) and perpetuating themselves.

"Not giving the soldiers all the info that can be gotten is terrible."

Keeping the soldiers in harms way for absolutely no perceptible benefit to the nation is criminal. If the Republican Congress had one ounce of moral fortitude, it would demand answers from their unquestioned champion, George W. Bush.

"We don't have to lower our standards but we sure can scare the hell out of them."

Yet, the current Bush legislation is all about lowering our standards to the gutter level of torture and domestic spying.

[meboard]

I think it all boils down to how one defines the word %u201CTorture%u201D%u2026 In the United States,%u201CTorture%u201D is %u201Chaving to listen to %u201CW%u201D try and conjugate a sentence.%u201D %u201CTorture%u201D is %u201Chaving to watch him spend our tax dollars fly around the country repeatedly selling his mistaken position on EVERY issue he%u2019s attempted to push since he was %u201Cappointed%u201D President.%u201D %u201CTorture%u201D is %u201Chaving to see that smirk on Chaney%u2019s mouth as he looks into the TV camera and lies to us that this War is almost over and the insurgency is about to dissolve.%u201D (NOT!!!) %u201CTorture%u201D is %u201Chaving to think how this country went from a $15B budget surplus in 2001 to $450B+ in the RED in 5 years!!!%u201D %u201CTorture%u201D is %u201Chearing %u201CW%u201D say he%u2019s a %u201Ccoalition builder%u201D and then builds the most divisive political atmosphere in U.S. political history.%u201D (He also gets failing marks for being %u201CThe Decider%u201D!) %u201CTorture%u201D is %u201Cthe thought that %u201CW%u201D has 2 more years LEFT IN OFFICE!!!%u201D THAT how we define %u201CTORTURE%u201D%u2026and our country is about to break!

[dfass405-2009]

wow, Mmaarrs, you probably just made billions of people upset (if they saw your comment), lol. You insulted 3 of the worlds largest religions. You did play it smart, however, as long as you dont offend liberals you can sleep safely at night. If you offend liberals you might get censored, be careful.

[commonvoter]

I now know why we are in the state we are in. Our President thinks he was elected to "protect the homeland"! I was taught our President was elected to protect and uphold our United States Consitution and the freedoms it affords our citizens.

If he had done that we would not have lost our standing with our allies and we would not have interfered in a country for false reasons.

[dfass405-2009]

If conservatives are such idiots why is the number one cable news program Bill O'Reilly, why is Rush Limbaugh #1 radio show followed by a number of other conservative talk shows, why do republicans control the government, why is Bush's approval rating the highest in months (47% i think). Why is Air America going bankrupt, why are the Democrats angrier than ever, why are conservatives gaining momentum coming to November?? Just a few questions.

[livefreeonly]

Our legislators need to give America back to the people and stop behaving like a bunch of SS generals. Illegal wiretapping, secret prisons, torturing, what's next concentration camps. This administration is one scary group. Hooray for Colin Powell for coming out publicly and endorsing the Geneva conventions instead of sounding like Rich Santorum who thinks its okay to behave however the terrorists behave. I believe this administration will set our great country back at least 50 to 100 years. I can't believe the way the republicans have endorsed every fascist idea Bush/Cheney/Rove come up with. You know their getting big bucks to shut up and go along. What a coincidence gas prices are dropping a couple of months before the mid elections. Keep on praying America.
A very worried citizen of the United States

[dfass405-2009]

RicK Santorum is one of the few good men in this country. I think we should have these people as the leadership for our country in 2008

President: Rush Limbaugh
Vice President: Michael Savage
Secretary of State: Ann Coulter
Attorney General: Bill OReilly
Other Government Officials: Michael Medved, Dennis Pragger, Bill Bennet, RicK Santorum, Laura Ingram, Sean Hannity, Allan Combs (for diversity), Allan Keys

Janitors and secretaries: Sandy theBergular, Hitlery Clinton, Nancy Graceless, John Kerrless, Nancy Pelosi, Al Franken, Rossi ODonnel, Condi Rice

What do you think?

[livefreeonly]

Hooray. Either common demorcratic sense has prevailed or their just worried about the elections. Let's see what happens next week.

[clestes-2009]

Pretty good dfass405! I had a good laugh. Thanks for that!

[dfass405-2009]

no prob celeste. lol