Bush Talks About His Biggest Fear

President Discusses 9/11, War On Terror, Iraq With Katie Couric

(CBS)  "Conversely, I guess, Mr. President, while people admire so much your ability to adhere to your principles, there is also criticism, as you say, there will always be critics, that you're inflexible and that your position doesn't change with changing circumstances," Couric said.

"I am inflexible when it comes to making sure we don't get hit again. And you bet I'm gonna remain strong about making sure that the world we leave behind is a more peaceful world," the president said.

"You have said we can't cut and run on more than one occasion. We have to stay until we win. Otherwise, we'll be fighting the terrorists here at home, on our own streets. So what do you mean exactly by that, Mr. President?" Couric asked.

"Well, I mean that a defeat in Iraq will embolden the enemy and will provide the enemy — more opportunity to train, plan, to attack us. That's what I mean," Mr. Bush said. "You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror. I believe it. As I told you, Osama bin Laden believes it. But the American people — have gotta understand that a defeat in Iraq — in other words, if this government there fails, the terrorists will be emboldened, the radicals will topple moderate governments. I truly believe this is the ideological struggle of the 21st century. And the consequences for not achieving success are — are dire."

During Couric's interview Tuesday morning, the president revealed information about previously undisclosed terror plots. Fourteen suspected top al Qaeda terrorists, captured after 9/11, revealed important information during interrogations. Now, the president is pushing Congress to approve military tribunals to put them on trial.

"Can you give us any indication about what kind of information you were able to glean from these, quote-unquote, high value targets?" Couric asked.

"Right. Well, for example, we uncovered a potential anthrax attack on the United States. Or the fact that Khalid Sheikh Mohammad had got somebody to line up people to fly airlines, to crash airlines on, I think, the West Coast or somewhere in America. And these would be Southeast Asians. In other words, we've uncovered cells," the president said.

"When you look back on the last five years, President Bush, is there anything that you wish you had done differently?" Couric asked.

"Yeah. I mean, I wish, for example, Abu Ghraib didn't happen. That was a stain on our nation's character, and it sent a signal about who we're not to a lot of people around the world. I probably could have watched my language a little better, you know?" Mr. Bush replied.

" 'Bring it on,' for example," the president said. "Sometimes I try to explain myself in plain terms. And sometimes the terms are too plain."

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Click here to read Part II of the Couric interview with President Bush.

[enochville]

I wish Katie would have asked the President about the overall plan in Iraq. These constant skirmishes, occasional operations and occasional capture of top al Qaeda in Iraq leaders does not seem to be making any difference. "Staying the course" is not working. If you always do what you have always done, you'll always be where you have always been.

It is a pity that we will have to wait until 2009 to get someone in the White House who has a plan besides "stay the course".

[jms_cheung]

I think people tend to misinterpret the president when he says, `Stay the course...'..I believe what Bush really means, ` Don't give up, men...keep fighting till all the terrorists are WIPED OUT!' In this respect, Bush is absolutely RIGHT to continue the wars to wipe out global Islamist terrorism! The recent FUSS about so-called violations of human rights (what nought)to `torture' suspected terrorists held in overseas camps run by CIA is really STUPID! Bush was right that such TACTICS must be used in order to squeeze out vital information about future terrorist attacks. WHY NOT? If the CIA can TORTURE 100 terrorists in order to avert more catastrophes in the US, saving thousands of innocent US citizens, WHY NOT? These terrorists are more cruel that brute beasts and should be SLAUGHTERED that this world can have peace. NEVER USE THE CIVIL JUSTICE TO TRY THESE EVIL MEN FOR THEY DON'T DESERVE SUCH HUMAN RIGHTS!

[lefilsdebill]

I would hope that after allowing George Bush to again exploit September 11th for an election year advantage that CBS will provide equal time to opposing points of view. But I won't hold my breath.

[jlowens13]

Bush has been by far one of the most aggressive presidents and I fully believe that he has this country's best interest at heart! Not only that he is doing exactly what he said he was going to do from the beginning and that was to finish what his dad started, so I say let the man just blow the whole country up and then we can just be done with it!

[iridium51]

If you want a good idea of how thing have been going in Iraq, read Michael Yon's blog. He's an unaffiliated reporter (at least I think he is) that embedded with the Deuce-Four using his own funds, equipment, etc.

http://www.michaelyon-online.com

Go to the Dispatches section.

Not many reporters have been as close to the action as Yon, and he gives a very accurate picture of what is really going on in Iraq.

I believe he will be returning to Iraq at somepoint.

[notbuynit]

Bush is full of it. His biggest fear is getting his wings clipped in the upcoming election. CLIP CLIP.

[spinonedad]

I don't believe a word Bush says

[trewblusue]

I anticipated a fair interview with the President from Couric, and for the most part it was. However, when she quoted a NY Times poll, that caused me to change the channel. Katie, have some guts. CBS needs you....you're smart....you don't have to say everything the producers tell you to say! Most people, conservative and liberal, have little faith in the NY Times polls!

[clestes-2009]

What a hypocrit Bush is. He morns for the families of the dead and yet sent them to their death on a lie.

The man should be on trial for murder for each of the unnecessery deaths of US AND Iraqi soldiers, not to mention the 10s of thousands of civilians.

He is no better than Stalin. In fact worse. Stalin at least had the guts to admint his wrong doings. I have to hear accept responsibility for anything.

[bizzybirdy]

Bush is a joke to listen to...he has taken this great country down the tubes in ALL ways. I cannot believe there are people around that still believe his garbage propaganda! Wise up folks!

[hiproductions--2008]

To quote this article,
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approach it with mixed emotions. I
remember the horror. And I remember the,
you know, the loss of life. I also
remember the lessons.

What kind of writer actually adds in an interviewee's moments of pause or stammering? CBS has tried to do this in keeping with its liberal agenda: Make Bush look bad. If this were Bill "perjury" Clinton, you can bet the writer of the article would have employed "editing" to make the Ex-President "terrorist freeing liar" sound smooth and well spoken. This is just ridiculous editorializing. Stop calling yourselves the "news" and be honest about who you are the "opinions" (of a vocal minority).

[texaskos_com]

Dear trewbluesue & her kind,

"CBS needs you....you're smart....you don't have to say everything the producers tell you to say! Most people, conservative and liberal, have little faith in the NY Times polls!"

sue, I'm a liberal & I do believe good polls. You don't speak for me.

First off, it was a joint CBS & NYT poll. Why wouldn't CBS use it? Secondly, it amazes me how incredibly insulated you all are to not see the truth when its crumbling around you.

I'm a successful developer in Houston & yet, I can still see the fundamentals of the country are in bad shape.

Why can't people like you?

[jshudson2]

andywahr:

Bush's stammering and stuttering and inability to form a coherent sentence isn't "opinion" it's demonstrated fact. He does it ALL THE TIME. Virtually every time he opens his mouth in public. If you want the false, sanitized version of Bush's comments please go to the White House website - they regularly clean up his mistakes and misstatements before they publish their "transcripts".

Clinton on the other had needs no such revisionism as he is able to speak clearly, concisely and knowledgeably. At least that is the case whenever I've heard him speak or read what he has said.

I'm sorry if this reflects poorly on your chosen leader or causes you discomfort but is is a fact that has been commented on extensively for, oh, at least six years now and is not evidence of CBS News Bush "bashing".

[reyesron]

To answer jms_cheung about wiping out all terrorists, I ask this: How? It seems to me that before the Iraqi occupation, terrorism events, while not rare, were not everyday occurances. Terrorism in Iraq is an almost hourly event. Many thousands are being killed there by terrorism, including U. S. citizens and there seems to be a never-ending supply of suicide bombers. I am unclear as to the definition of success in this venture. Maybe the answer lies not in extermination, but in understanding. I certainly don't understand this war, or why it will continue unabated long after George W. Bush retires to Crawford, Texas. Maybe if someone like Colin Powell had lunch with Saddam Hussein in Paris before this war, and told him whats what,face to face, like, say, in diplomacy, maybe it could have been avoided. We were in such a hurry to kick someones weak butt after 9/11 to shore up our feelings of outrage, that we stepped into something no one anticipated, a quagmire. Is this like Viet Nam? Did Vietnamization work? Not even for one day. Will Iraqization succeed? Isnt insanity defined by the repeating of the same actions while expecting dissimilar results? Do the politicians advancing this war sound so different than those advancing VietNam? Didnt the Soviets spend ten years in Afghanistan? Does occupying a foregn country thousands of miles away, work? We are all in the twilight zone.

[lukebize]

andywahr asks:

"What kind of writer actually adds in an interviewee's moments of pause or stammering?"

The kind that strives to report factually?

"CBS has tried to do this in keeping with its liberal agenda: Make Bush look bad."

The President doesn't really need much help in that area.

"If this were Bill "perjury" Clinton, you can bet the writer of the article would have employed "editing" to make the Ex-President "terrorist freeing liar" sound smooth and well spoken."

Clinton is not President anymore. Try to keep up.

There are multitudes of archives filled with news reports from CBS and many others which are highly critical of the Clinton administration. In few of them does Clinton babble like Bush, though.

"This is just ridiculous editorializing."

Well, what YOU write certainly is. What Couric and CBS reported is literal fact. Don't like it? Tough. Vote in a more wellspoken, competent crook next time.

"Stop calling yourselves the "news" and be honest about who you are the "opinions" (of a vocal minority)."

You wouldn't know news if it sent your son to die in Iraq.

[brett504-2009]

personally I think it time for our troops to come home. We have lost alot of soliders over there and enough is enough. We need to start taking care of this country. I have yet to figure out what we have acomplished over there.
Its been a nightmare since day one.

[cate45_1999]

Since when is Bush even interested in Osama bin Laden or where he is and what he is doing? He wanted Saddam Hussein and he got him. Never once was bin Laden mentioned when we entered Iraq. Everyone knew that we should be looking for bin Laden in Afganistan. Bush should go back and check his speechs when he wanted support to go into Iraq. He was going to finish what his father started and that is the simple truth of it.

[pjaqua1]

Katie Couric's interview of the President was both outstanding journalism and very interesting and insightful. Katie is off to a "first-class" start with CBS.

[motinct]

Please ... I hate disrepecting the President BUT if the man was truly serious ... he would secure our borders now. NO AMNESTY ... just keep illegals from crossing over to our shores (both on land and from the sea!) Why leave our 'doors' wide opened?!?!?

[juliehg-2009]

He chases terrorists like Don Quijote chased windmills. It's all fiction...

[angiedor]

For the last six years, it has been obvious that he is getting everything fed to him through an earpiece. You can tell. Who else is seeing this? So what does it matter what he says. I am a conservative Christian, but it is so hard to take him seriously. It stinks, actully.

[sanityseeker]

The fact is that al Qaida never had a presence under Saddam. The vast majority of the current insurgency are rival religious factions not al Qaida terrorists. Mr. Bush emboldened and strenthened bin Laden's hand to call for a Jihad by launching an unprovoked invasion a sovereign Muslim nation. Mr Bush's arrogant, lone ranger who knows best attitude has deminished our standing in the world to where only 9% of the world's population regards the USA positively.
Given all this public information about Iraq and al Qaida, I fail to appreciate Mr. Bush's argument that Iraq is the center of our war on terror. Iraq is the reason that we are failing to contain terrorism. The Iraq war has depleted our military resouces and has bankrupted our positive regard in the world. Mr. Bush has promoted a foreign policy that has alienated our allies and exacerbated hatred towards us in the non-terrorist Muslim world.
The real center of the al Qaide threat is Afghanistan and Pakistan, NOT Iraq. We have lost our control of the hearts and minds of those people and the Taliban have regained significant power and influence again. We have lost our advantage, as well as the opportunity to capture bin Laden because our special ops troops and military were re-deployed to fight this insane war in Iraq. Mr. Bush has "cut and run" from the real center of the war on terror and has failed us miserably.

[ds6565]

Americans have short memories. I recall at the end of the Gulf War, after the Iraqis had been driven out of Kuwait in defeat, many people were bent the "we weren't finishing the job" by removing Sadaam Hussein from power. Even top members of the Clinton administration, including the president himself, expressed concern about the WMDs in Iraq. But nothing was done about it because it would mean a difficult war like what is occuring now. Even after terrorist strikes against the World Trade Center in 1993, our embassies, the USS Cole, no serious action was taken. More action was taken in the Balkans to oust Slobo because of the ethnic cleansing. How was Slobo a threat to the USA?
Bush may have his misgivings. I don't agree with his immigration policies, he signs every pork barrel spending bill that lands next to his pen, and he isn't the best communicator. But he has done more to take action against terrorism than any other president this country has ever had. Reagan pulled out of Lebanon in 1983 after the Marine barracks got bombed. Clinton took little to no action against Islamic terror. Instead of sitting around waiting for the next attack, America is hitting back. It's the hard path to take, but we really don't have any other option. There is no negotiating with al Qaida, Hamas, Hezbollah, MILF, none of them.

[slots23]

I just saw Katie Couric's blurbs on the CBS evening news about being at the White House and how she was in awe of the history inside those walls. One thing she mentioned was Bush chastizing a crew member to "...straighten your tie. You're in the White House". She seemed to find that endearing.
And she noted the pros and cons of his Texas swagger.

She was going on about Bush's daunting task as president in this time in history.

Has she forgotten that Bush got us into this insanity in the middle east?

I was under the impression that journalists on the network news were supposed to be unbiased in their reporting of the news at hand. From her comments it is clear that she would appear to be a staunch Bush fan.

Remember, Katie, he's responsible for over 2600 dead Americans.
And god knows how many wounded.

Perhaps Fox would be a better venue for you.

Thanks for allowing me to vent while there is still free speech in this country.

I'll continue to watch the local CBS News but from here on in as long as Katie's on the air I'll be watching another channel.
Thank god for Tivo. Now I can show my friends what biased journalism is all about.

If you'd like to respond, please feel free. I may have it all wrong. You could win me back.

thanks,
former Katie supporter

[slots23]

I just saw Katie Couric's blurbs on the CBS evening news about being at the White House and how she was in awe of the history inside those walls. One thing she mentioned was Bush chastizing a crew member to "...straighten your tie. You're in the White House". She seemed to find that endearing.
And she noted the pros and cons of his Texas swagger.

She was going on about Bush's daunting task as president in this time in history.

Has she forgotten that Bush got us into this insanity in the middle east?

I was under the impression that journalists on the network news were supposed to be unbiased in their reporting of the news at hand. From her comments it is clear that she would appear to be a staunch Bush fan.

Remember, Katie, he's responsible for over 2600 dead Americans.
And god knows how many wounded.

Perhaps Fox would be a better venue for you.

Thanks for allowing me to vent while there is still free speech in this country.

I'll continue to watch the local CBS News but from here on in as long as Katie's on the air I'll be watching another channel.
Thank god for Tivo. Now I can show my friends what biased journalism is all about.

If you'd like to respond, please feel free. I may have it all wrong. You could win me back.

thanks,
former Katie supporter

slots23, I do think you have at least one thing wrong. The President did not get us "into this insanity..." The Islamo-fascists who have been attacking free people for decades dragged us in to this. Whatever you want to believe about the initial reasons given for invading Iraq, make no mistake that it was always about taking the war to the enemy. Revenge is NOT the only reason for this war, it was the straw that broke our back.

Think back to all of the terrorist acts that happened during the 70s, 80s and 90s: the USS Cole, Khobars Towers, the attack on the Munich Airport, Munich Olympic Massacre, U.S. Ambassador to Sudan assassinated, Entebbe Hostage Crisis, Ambassador to Afghanistan Assassinated, Iran Hostage Crisis, Bombing of U.S. Embassy in Beirut, Bombing of Marine Barracks in Beirut, Kidnapping and murder of Embassy Official in Beirut, TWA Hijacking in 1985, Achille Lauro Hijacking, Egyptian Airliner Hijacking, Airport Attacks in Rome and Vienna, Aircraft Bombing in Greece, Berlin Discothhque Bombing, Kidnapping and murder of William Higgins, Naples USO Attack, Pan Am 103 Bombing, Bombing of UTA Flight 772, Bombing of the Israeli Embassy in Argentina, World Trade Center Bombing in 1993, Attempted Assassination of President Bush by Iraqi Agents in 1993, Air France Hijacking in 1994, Jerusalem Bus Attack in 1995, Saudi Military Installation Attack in 1995, HAMAS Bus Attack in 1996, Dizengoff Center Bombing, Bombing of Archbishop of Oran, Empire State Building Sniper Attack in 1997, Israeli Shopping Mall Bombing in 1997, Murder of U.S. Businessmen in Pakistan, U.S. Embassy Bombings in East Africa in 1998, Kidnappings in Kyrgyzstan to name maybe 50% of the ones with U.S. casualities.

When do we say enough. I think we've turned the other cheek more than and acceptable number of times Well, President Bush said enough on the morning of 9/11/01. It is his sworn duty to defend the people of this country and I agree that the fight should be taken to the enemy rather than waiting around for them to attack and then trying to arrest those responsible.

You can admire a man without agreeing with him. Katie has taken more than her share of cheap shots at the President during the past 5 years and I would hardly call her a "a staunch Bush fan." There are so many out there that would have you believe that President Bush has no adirable qualities whatsoever, but I'm telling you they're wrong. You don't get re-elected without admirable qualities. I voted for Clinton twice and Gore in 2000. I certainly would not have counted myself as a staunch Bush fan until the election campaign of 2004. Seeing the alternative in leadership quickly made me a fan. George W. Bush was the best man for the job of protecting this country and he still is. There are many of his policies that make me angry (ie, spending, immigration, etc...), but there is no issue as important to me as National Security.

If the Democrats take over Congress this November, there will be so much grid-lock in Washington that nothing will get done. This includes legislation concerning interrogation techniques (which is how we've gotten about 90% of the intelligence that has allowed us to stop attacks and capture/kill many top terrorists) and the ability to prosecute those captured. I fear that neither party will produce a candidate strong enough to take over the daunting challenge of protecting this Nation.

[aesop2-2009]

I am truly dismayed at the ignorance of the american people. The problems in the middle-east are a direct result of western interference in the day to day life of the natives of that area. Leave the middle east to the natives. Let's deal with our own terrorist. Does anyone remember Oklahoma City and countless other attacks on American citizens over the past century by fellow American's. Where was the outrage.

[andrew_sam]

ONe word for President Bush Afganistan that was and is our problem it was not Iraq. We thank Bush and Rumsfeld for that.

[vawahoo74]

It is time for Americans to step up and understand that radical extremists are indeed a threat to our freedom. It is also time for Congress to address the illegal immigrant issue as it affects our national security. Secure the borders first and use the military to support the effort. Then make it clear to American business that if illegal immigrants are hired, there will be severe financial penalities. After this happens, then address the question of the illegals who in the country now, offering a path to citizenship through worker guest program.

[opposebush]

Bush and Chaney are the worst criminals and terrorists that this world has ever seen. They knew about 9/11 before it happened. They went into Iraq even though it had nothing to do with 9/11. They are the terrorists. Get them out of off now. We need to have a system just like England where we can throw elected officials out of office when we find that they have lied to the american people and cause thousands and thousands of deaths in this country and around the world. The is the worst abuse of power. And by the way Bush never won either elections - how is it that we allowed him to steal the elections and did not correct the problem when we had the chance. This should never happen. Every vote should count and be recounted if that is necessary. Please stop the madness.

[opposebush]

Thanks for your comments slots23 - I think you hit the nail on the head. Katie smarten up - or you are going to lose your viewing audience. You may be in 3rd place - but after all there is no 4th or 5th, but there is a total loss of viewers, which means you will be off the air. As for this person's comments ( jlowens13 ). Bush is aggressive, but is only for his and Chaney's pocket books. They are getting richer, while the rest of us are getting poorer. Or haven't you purchased anything lately like milk, gas, etc. Just the basics. I notice they don't include these items in our spending numbers. It makes them look too bad. Bush and Chaney (B&C)are ruining this country. The terrorists have one. They goal was to bring us to our knees. Nice job B&C in making sure they got what they wanted. I know they are trying to make us scared to death, but I don't buy it.

Katie you need to rethink your position on the B&C terrorists, you could find yourself off the top 100 most powerful women in the country list.