TEHRAN, Iran, Aug. 22, 2006

Iran Ready To Enter 'Serious' Talks

But News Agency Reports Tehran Unwilling To Abandon Nuclear Enrichment

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(CBS/AP)  Iran said Tuesday it was ready for "serious negotiations" on its nuclear program, but a semi-official news agency reported the government was unwilling to abandon nuclear enrichment — the key U.S. demand.

Ali Larijani, the country's top nuclear negotiator, delivered a written response to ambassadors of Britain, China, Russia, France, Germany and Switzerland to a package of incentives aimed at persuading Iran to roll back on its nuclear program.

Larijani refused to disclose whether the response included an offer to suspend uranium enrichment, and no details of Iran's response were released. The state-run television quoted Larijani as telling the diplomats Iran "is prepared as of Aug. 23rd to enter serious negotiations" with the countries that proposed the incentives package.

But the semi-official Fars news agency reported that Iran rejected calls to suspend "nuclear activities" — or uranium enrichment — and "instead has offered a new formula to resolve the issues through dialogue."

Administration officials believe that by offering to talk, Iran is playing for time — and trying to give its trading partners Russia and China a good excuse to vote against sanctions in the U.N. Security Council, reports CBS News senior White House correspondent Bill Plante.

Iran delivered its response to the incentives offer nine days before a Security Council deadline for Iran to halt uranium enrichment or face economic and political sanctions.

The White House deferred comment on the Iranian government's response.

"The Security Council's deadline is Aug. 31. I'm not going to parse the Iranian government's document today here on the airplane," White House deputy press secretary Dana Perino said on Air Force One as President Bush flew to an appearance in Minnesota. "That is a job best left to the diplomats."

She said the U.S. government has received a copy of the document, but that she doesn't believe the president had seen it yet.

"We are aware of the rhetoric that has been coming out of the regime about a nuclear program and the president made very clear to everyone yesterday in his press conference that he thinks that that would be a mistake and dangerous for the region and the whole world," she added. "So let's let the diplomats take a look at this response before we parse it out too much here."

The European Union's foreign policy chief, Javier Solana, said the Iranian document was "extensive" and required "a detailed and careful analysis." He did not elaborate or provide any details.

In New York, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton, said Washington will "study the Iranian response carefully" but was prepared to move forward with sanctions against Tehran if its response to the incentives package was not positive.

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by mjv2944 August 22, 2006 12:28 PM EDT
I'll tell you what they will do, they will tell the UN and anyone else to kiss their a-- and nobody will do a thing about it until they drop a bomb on Israel and really begin WWIII. Ask the French what to do, they had all the answers for Lebanon and offered a whopping 200 troops. Folks things are going to get a lot worse and mighty fast. The UN is an absolute failure. Corruption and 3rd world leadership have killed it. The world is going to be caught up in a religious war and it won't be pretty.
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by heardenuff August 22, 2006 2:30 PM EDT
AGREED...........

just look at all their double talk, they are going to stall long enough to "produce" or "otherwise" get their hands on the beloved bomb at which time it will be their pleasure to "wipe the face of the earth" of their "arch" rival's [as there are more then 1] (sounds like a comic book) but it's real...

double talk:
Ayatollah Vows Iran To Continue Nukes
Khamenei Says U.S. Is Pressuring Iran, Even Though Not Making Weapons - (YET....)

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/21/world/main1914659.shtml



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by heardenuff August 22, 2006 2:33 PM EDT
QUOTE:

U.N. watchdog says Iran enriched uranium
Iran %u2018won%u2019t give a ***%u2019 about any sanctions, its president says
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by one_american August 22, 2006 2:56 PM EDT
"If you want to have good relations with the Iranian people in the future, you should acknowledge the right and the might of the Iranian people, and you should bow and surrender to the might of the Iranian people. <b>If you do not accept this, the Iranian people will force you to bow and surrender</b>."

This is a quote from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, on Iranian TV, August 13th, 2006, directed at the U.S. and Great Britain.

Don't believe it? Watch it here:
http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1241#
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by noomgod August 22, 2006 3:04 PM EDT
I think a nuclear war will commence in about 2 or maybe 3 years then the middle east will be a waste land.
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by heardenuff August 22, 2006 3:17 PM EDT
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/9287-.html
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by mjv2944 August 22, 2006 4:19 PM EDT
Their serious talk will last however long it takes to produce a bomb. When will the rest of the world figures these people out. They are EVIL and their religion is EVIL. Look whats going on in Iraq, they are killing one another in the name of Allah.
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by adam672 August 22, 2006 6:27 PM EDT
I ask everyone ridicluing Iran's response one question: Do you really think Iran is idiotic enough to actually attack any nation? If you do you have been drinking Kool Aid provided by the Western media that is grotesquely biased towards any one or any thing that is anti-zionist.

Follow-up question: When in the last 100 years has Iran attacked any other nation?

How many times in the last hundred years have we (the United States) launched attacks (covert or other wise) on other sovereign nations? And Israel?

I quote the Iranian president:

"The time of the bomb is in the past. It's behind us. Today is the era of thoughts, dialogue and cultural exchanges."
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by heardenuff August 22, 2006 6:28 PM EDT
right WHATEVER........


http://www.religionnewsblog.com/9287-.html
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by grazinggoat August 22, 2006 6:31 PM EDT
Hey are you out of your mind or what? Just look at yourself bunch of nagging sheeps. Who is governing the USA? Bush who calls himself a Christian Newborn, and just accused the moslem of being fascist?.
Who has most of the nuclear warheads in the world? Who has been bombing Hiroshima and Nagazaki? Who has been killing the 6,000,000 Jews and the 50,000,000 (fifty millions) non jews humans in Europe in second world war. It certainely was not moslem people. Who just killed one thousand civilian in Lebanon? Are you suffering of Alzheimer or are you sick?

Stop bashing on Moslems, who are suffering the invasions of USA Army in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Georgia-Kazakhstan, and other countries of the middle-east. Out of the quarter of the inhabitant of the earth (1,5 Billion moslems), not one country of moslem religion has the nuclear Bomb except Pakistan that is controlled by the US Army... So Stop looking at the straw in the others eye and forgetting the whole tree trunk in your eyes bunch of ego-centric parano-maniacs. Stop your poison spitting on other religions.
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by one_american August 22, 2006 7:10 PM EDT
grazinggoat:

Are you a Muslim? If not, are you prepared for Islamic Fascists to force you into becoming a Muslim - or dieing at their hands?

Think about it. You may have to choose, if you and people like you keep bashing America.

It's one of the goals of the CAIR organization in America. Just ask them.
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by heardenuff August 22, 2006 7:12 PM EDT
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/9287-.html
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by grazinggoat August 22, 2006 7:31 PM EDT
...Continued 2
The Iranians have had the United Nations IAEA sticking to their butt in every inch of their nuclear installations. (IAEA stands for International Atomic Energy Agency) which is the United Nation watchdog agency for nuclear non-prolifilating agreements). In the United Nations protocoles regarding the non-prolifilating accords, each and every nation on the earth can have the nuclear activities if used for civilian purposes. And IAEA is watching...
Remember when Collin Powell lied at the face of the whole world in the UN assembly showing all the other nations representatives an cartoon drawing illustrating a plane, pretending it was a plane for spreading the weapons of mass destruction... then if you agree with me the president is still telling falsly accusing... finger pointing. He's better to put it in his nose. That would be more profitable for him, and more peaceful for the whole populations of the Earth...
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by grazinggoat August 22, 2006 7:33 PM EDT
...Continued 1
There are many other way of course to access this energy, but one of them, and the least polluting is nuclear. Because newer biomass energy fuels, still liberate in the atmosphere the same quantity of green house effect gaz as the traditional fossile (petroleum or coal). If Iran is going nuclear, it's developing it's technology, maybe they'll find better ways to produce electricity. They are putting a lot of efforts on finding newer and cheaper ways of producing the famous electricity.

Our Beloved president Senor GWBush and his flatulent administration are trying to find a way to justify an attack on IRAN. Haaa! what better way can he find but to accusing them of aiming at the nuclear Bomb. woooo woooo... Feloow Americans, the evil iranians want to have a nuckilar boommmbbb. We americans are not safe as long as we don't get into Iran and Kick their sas. We have here Mr Reza-*** Pahlavi son of former Shah... he will be a good friend of USA, and there we install him, he'll be agoodpuppet, nice moustache and shiny glasses...
Please see continued 2...
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by grazinggoat August 22, 2006 7:34 PM EDT
Hey guys, nukes are the new trend in electric enrgy production. Europe relies on nuclear technology for over 70% of its electrical power production.

You know very well that electric power production in the US is generating a lot of pollution. Because the way it's produced (by burning coal, and fuel, heating water and generating steam that spins electric-generating turbines). This type of production is causing to release in the atmosphere a humongous quantity of Green House effet gaz, and causing the atmosphere to warm. That is what we call the GLOBAL WARMING our friend BUSH is not accepting to admit...

That is why all kind of alternative ways of energy-production are welcome, in order to reduce this green house effect.
Please see continued 1...
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by grazinggoat August 22, 2006 7:43 PM EDT
One_American, and others willing to know what I am. I am a grzing goat, can't you just read...?
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by grazinggoat August 22, 2006 7:45 PM EDT
And please tell me to what religion should goats belong?
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by August 22, 2006 7:48 PM EDT
Obviously some one needs a history lesson. Who bombed the Marine Bks in Beirut?? Muslims between 17 and 30, who is it that sacrafices themselves to take out Jews in Israel, Young Muslims between 17 and 30, who bombed the WTC in the early '90s, young Muslims between 17 and 30, what two terrorist organizations keep attacking Israel, Hezbollah and Hamas and what religion are they?? MUSLIM. Who used the Kurds in Iraq to test chemical weapons. Hussein and if I'm not mistaken he is a Muslim. Now in the recent war in Lebanon, what country is suspected of supporting Hezbollah, IRAN and what country is wanting to take our Israel, IRAN, what country held Americans in their own embasy hostage for over 600 days, IRAN. DOES ANYONE BUT ME SEE A PATTERN HERE. THE UNITED STATES ISN'T DOING ANY OF THE ABOVE. Who started the current war by KILLING THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS AND OTHER COUNTRY CITIZENS ON 9/11???? MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!!!
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by August 22, 2006 8:03 PM EDT
It is the stated objective of the "Muslims" to TAKE OVER THE WORLD. there will never be Peace in the world because of their objective. So the problem isn't the American's, Germans, French, British, Japanese, Australians, South Koreans, Canadians or even the Jews. Even ALL Muslims aren't the problem, Radical Muslims are the problem
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by lochlan-2009 August 22, 2006 8:05 PM EDT
This is all about selling nuclear fuel to China and India (Chindia). It's not just about oil anymore, take a look at cameco stock over the last five years for a clearer picture. Thanks to urging by the U.S. gov. (Cheney) China is going to be building 30 new nuclear power plants by 2020. We're already building nuclear plants in India. Where are these people going to be buying their fuel from...? Corporate elites who've lobbied the U.S. gov. again take a look at Cameco stock and look at how much of the worlds uranium mines they own. All this effort into getting the fastest growing economies in the world hooked on nuclear fuel and now Iran is enriching Uranium!! Can't control the price of Uranium when there is a rogue player in the market, especially when Iran is right next door to the very people we are forcing into being our future clients. Hello, getting the picture yet? This is just a scratch on the surface for those who want to do a little more research in a direction the media won't cover. Of course, any country is going to seize on the opportunity to get nuclear weapons for defending their country and intimidating their rivals... after all, that's what we do.
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by lochlan-2009 August 22, 2006 8:09 PM EDT
By the way wildgun, who sunk the U.S.S. Liberty and continued flying over shooting into the soldiers in the water tryng to make sure every U.S. soldier was dead.....
Israel.
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by grazinggoat August 22, 2006 8:17 PM EDT
Quite interesting reactions, I see that you have an deep anger in your soul. You seem to be a deep-loving christian, Wildgun1. Give you here a link to a calculation website to add up all the numbers of casualties caused by those evil moslem attackers on the USA... if we all agree that the job on the world trade center has been done in full knowledge of the Peaceful Dovey GWBush adminstration ( I'm very skeptical!)

http://www.calculator.org/

Once you've finished, tell me what percentage of that represents in term of Killing done by a tiny fraction of 1,5 Billion moslem on Earth.
Compare it to the 6,000,000 Jews killed and burnt, and the 50,000,000 (read it again FIFTY MILLION) non jews killed in Europe in the second world war. CIVILIZED Israel has just killed 1000 civilians in Lebanon with a destruction of Half the Lebanese Civilians Infrastructure.

HHHEEEEYYYY it should still be fresh in your mind... or are you drunk. Israel Has just killed in the last three years over three thousands palestinians in the last intefada... which is done in order to avoid the annihilation of the palestinian people by barbaric IDF. Isn't that enough for you? Without counting the killing of thousands of people in IRAQ at the hands of Sacred US army...
In your place, wildgun1, I'd shut the kcuf up. Go and gulp a BUD, my friend it's better for you.
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by ronniehm August 22, 2006 8:51 PM EDT
How does the death toll from Muslim terrorism as a percentage of the death toll during World War II justify ignoring Muslim terrorism? Yeah, Hitler was bad. Also, he's dead.

And about that death toll in Lebanon. 1,000 civilians and 0 Hezbollah fighters? Oh, I forgot. Hezbollah fighters ARE civilians.
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by ronniehm August 22, 2006 8:55 PM EDT
P.S. Why aren't you quoting UN resolutions in this thread, goat?
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by heardenuff August 22, 2006 9:01 PM EDT
Report: Iran unwilling to abandon nukes
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by mediapro1 August 22, 2006 9:13 PM EDT
Look at this man's face. Think of what his country has already done to sponsor terrorism around the world. Then ask yourself this question: "Would I buy a used car from this man?" If the answer is no then you have made the first step in understanding his intentions towards the West. These people are DANGEROUS to anybody who isn't one of their own. And they are certain that by harming and/or killing us they will gain eternal favor with their deity. That's a deadly combination all around. Let us all beware.
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by grazinggoat August 22, 2006 9:56 PM EDT
...Continued 2
Amercia is the most powerful Nation in the world. Nobody can rival it. Nobody. for the time being, and for long long time. We have come to this level with honest work and intelligent administrative decisions. Research and development and great generosity, to help out the poor and developing nations. They returned it back in doubles and triples. I feel the times have changed. We have not the blessings we had before. We are cursed by others, because of our Gendarma and dictator behaviour throughout the world. Our phones are tapped, we are followed by the secret services, our bio-information and imprints are to be stored on one's passport, and central filing system... all that in the name of freedom preservation. Oh how this looks like the previous monster the humanity got rid of in Europe by the end of the world war two. Oh that reminds the older generation of Soviet-Run states where everything was controlled, and everyone was checked and prosecuted if different, put in prisons, siberian gulags. How different are we behaving from them by sending the (newly-invented category) Ennemy Combatants captured in Afganistan into extreme heat (GuantanamoBay)... to get out of Geneva UN Prisoner Treatment accord.
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by grazinggoat August 22, 2006 9:58 PM EDT
...Continued 1
Remember how the Nazis were propaganding the hatred to the Jews. Well just inverse the situation, and look how inflamable the peoples are. Just one word from the Dovey president GWBUSH about IslamoFascist and it'll put the empty-brained Wildgun1-KuKuxklanic type of people to the hunt the US moslems. Like the Jews have heen hunted by the Nazis. Is that the type of Chaos we're looking for in the States? Among the Nations of the Earth, the Moslems have been the least harmful, despite all what they have done to the USA. I know it's easy to condemn barbaric acts. But Hey these people have never looked to harm the US citizen per se. Only Al-Qaeda has succeeded to inflict some damages (as per my feeling) with full knowledge of the Adminstration just to foam up the American street Anger and justify the Huge Military Expenses Increase... A nice opportunity for the friends of the DoveyPresident and his inner-cirle buddies who hold, you know, the Heavy Armement-Industry, and make it run at full speed. That is good money coming into the economy. They don't even care about the heavy debt they're mortgaging the future generations of the United States of America with. So what I'm saying is as long as we don't look around, for some alternative ways of informations, we'll be brainwashed and foamed in order to accept and gulp any news they feed us with.
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by grazinggoat August 22, 2006 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks RonnieHM to give me the opportunity to explain. What I meant simply, that it's for real, we are just pumped up by our information system. In all North America, to the fact that we are victimized. In fact we are causing a lot of damage to other nations just because there are a bunch of people up in the adminstration that don't care for us, nor for other nations...

We just are a hurd of grazing goats that are exploited to pursue their aims. The administration deosn't care who is going ot starve or eat. They just tax the people in order to make sure their aims are reached.
(please see Continued 1...)
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by ronniehm August 22, 2006 10:22 PM EDT
I'm sorry. I can't get past the part where you think the secret service is following you and listening to your phone calls. It's sounds an awful lot like you started with the conclusion that America is like Nazi Germany, and from that you created your examples. Ordinarily you would start with an actual example of someone being followed by the secret service and having his phone tapped. From that you would draw your conclusion. The reality is we're nothing like Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union and your blog comments prove that. You're still breathing, aren't you? I think you do this a lot. You hate first (Israel, George Bush, Republicans) and spin the details later. How else could anyone ignore the fact that Iran actually will kill you for your political views? So will most Muslim governments. On the other hand, America does nothing at all like that, but that doesn't fit your premise that Bush is Hitler, so I guess we do, huh.

Just on a side note, it really cracked me up when you said we took people from Afghanistan INTO THE EXTREME HEAT of Cuba. It's 100 degrees in Qandahar today. In Havana, it's about 82.
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by heardenuff August 22, 2006 10:24 PM EDT
listen grazinggoat

if YOU don't like it here, how about this GET the *** out!!!!

go find your self some beautiful paradise to live in, I heard N. Korea is nice this time of year why don't you start there............

you'll have to excuse me, I have to go I think my house value just went up another 25%
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by heardenuff August 22, 2006 10:36 PM EDT
oh yeah and


http://www.religionnewsblog.com/9287-.html
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by ronniehm August 22, 2006 10:40 PM EDT
Goat, just curious. When did you move to America?
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by grazinggoat August 22, 2006 11:10 PM EDT
RonnieHM,
my parents came in Amercia probably at the same time than your parents came too...
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by grazinggoat August 22, 2006 11:13 PM EDT
Before you continue asking a silly question such as where from. Think twice: I hope you're not into racial profiling...
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by ronniehm August 22, 2006 11:31 PM EDT
There you go again. You've judged my question based on your opinion of me. Actually, I was just wondering where you picked up all the British English. It might help me understand why you think the secret service is following you. It also might make me wonder why you live in a country that you think resembles the Soviet Union. I've lived here all my life, and my wife grew up behind the Iron Curtain, so it's fascinating to us that anyone could claim there's any similarity whatsoever. We have first-hand experience. Where did you get your information about America and the Soviet Union?
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by grazinggoat August 22, 2006 11:56 PM EDT
Yo RonnieMH, I've never said such a thing. Didn't say I'm followed by the secret services whatsoever. I'm not, and I'm not worth the secret service time ;)

What makes you say this is a british english? Don't know but when time comes to writing, I do things differently. I have had training here in America, in genetics, and focibly when you go into this type of environment you think differently, write differently. U ask questions. Why is this so?. Why is not that so? I watch a lot of foreign news. www.BBC.co.UK, www.CBC.ca our northern neighbours, and of course I read newspapers Left and Right... there you go Ronnie
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by ronniehm August 23, 2006 12:11 AM EDT
British English: " ... our Gendarma and dictator behaviour ..."

You know, you're working awfully hard to avoid answering a simple question. So far I know your parents came from somewhere else and that you received some American training in genetics. Also, you're very afraid the answer will result in racial profiling. Try me. I may prove that you don't know what you think you know about me or America.
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by ronniehm August 23, 2006 12:11 AM EDT
British English: " ... our Gendarma and dictator behaviour ..."

You know, you're working awfully hard to avoid answering a simple question. So far I know your parents came from somewhere else and that you received some American training in genetics. Also, you're very afraid the answer will result in racial profiling. Try me. I may prove that you don't know what you think you know about me or America.
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by grazinggoat August 23, 2006 12:25 AM EDT
I know the states more than what you think. I was born here. That's all you need to know. I saw and still see what's going on. The changes are going on more than ever, but matter of fact we still have the freedom, many would die for... We are shifting toward something really not nice, if the states continue this way. Can you still hitch-hike in the states? Touring the States from top to bottom from East to West. Being welcome in each and every home? Maybe you're too young to remember. My kids cannot now... Can you? can your kids? Would you let them do that?

Luckily and hopefully we'll change that guy from the administration by the next elections.
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by ronniehm August 23, 2006 1:06 AM EDT
Well, it's your information to share or not to share, but it sure seems like I'm the one being profiled if you can't trust me with it. Anyway, in my 38 years, I've been to just about every state in America too. I've also been to more than two dozen countries (visiting friends mostly), and I wouldn't hitchhike in a single one of them. Hell, I wouldn't even stop for gas between major cities in some of the countries I've visited.
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by grazinggoat August 23, 2006 1:15 AM EDT
U're just a good kid, Ronnie. Bless you...
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by ronniehm August 23, 2006 1:16 AM EDT
Thank you. I owe you one sneeze.
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by grazinggoat August 23, 2006 1:58 AM EDT
I'll provide a box of Kleenex for far more...
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by jms_cheung August 23, 2006 11:33 AM EDT
The UN and EU leaders seem to be CRAZY and STUPID today? WHY? Instead of punishing terrorist states like Iran for making nuclear bombs, they are offering lucrative economic packages to them if they stop the uranium enrichment! Such silly approach is indeed dumb and stupid, for it only ENCOURAGE other terrorist states to start making `nuclear bombs' and thus qualified to blackmail the UN, US & European Union to offer them `lucrative economic packages'. The only sensible thing to do now to STOP global terrorism is for the the US & NATO to assume the absolute authority to PRE-EMPT (aerial bombardments) all Iranian nuclear facilities...thus solved the problem ...instead of having UNENDING silly UN meetings which GO NOWHERE..until Iran has invented the N-bomb!
This pre-emption against Iran is a deterrent and warning to all terrorist states which try to secretly make nuclear bombs!
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by reuben110-2009 August 23, 2006 12:14 PM EDT
We are supposed to be a beacon of the civilised world. As uranium enrichment is in their hands, and it is us that are requesting suspension, why are we talking about suspension as a pre-requisite, its up to us to offer Iran a deal that will evoke suspension, not a tone that says stop what you have an inalienable right of producing and then we may offer you something you may see as acceptable.

They do not feel threatened by us, and why shoul they, sanctions isn't something new for Iran, Iran knows sanctions will be a bitter blow for Russia, and China and oil prices. The current resolution says, sanctions MAY be applicable, it doesnt say definately applicable or even likely to be applicable, they see our tone as a bullying tactic, and you can bet your bottom dollar that it sure as hell does not cut the mustard in Tehran.

I dont know how many high-IQ employees from the Ivy League the White House currently employs, but you would think and hope one of them will have the common sense to convince somebody higher up the pecking order to change their tone, because our tone illustrates, as usual, we are again interested in confrontation that leads to yet another oil robberry, Iran is having none of it. And rightly so. Lets offer them something worthwhile, and get inspectors in that not only monitor, but dismantle their current capabilities, its a situation that requires tact, not the foolishness that is so typical of our country's political strategy.
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by ronniehm August 23, 2006 1:32 PM EDT
In light of recent comments about wiping Israel off the map, I think we need guarantees that a nuclear weapons program cannot be developed in Iran. Guarantees, not promises. Considering how Iranian weapons and soldiers just seem to pop up in all the strangest places, I think Iran has the responsibility to provide that guarantee.

I don't get the oil thing. Sounds like paranoia. I can say that it makes me a little nauseous to hear countries that dominate the oil supply accuse anyone of trying to dominate the oil supply. That's just plain hypocrisy.
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by reuben110-2009 August 23, 2006 9:23 PM EDT
Firstly it is important to note that what Ahadinejad has said can be described as nothing short of inflammatory. 2 comments specifically,i have serious qualms with. The first I have forgiven him for, which was Isral should be wiped off the map. Now this may surprise many of you and rightly so, though in his defense I found that this comment was subject to opportune journalistic mistranslation that had the desired effect. It was an excerpt of a long speech, in which he was saying that Israel is an illegaly founded state, and because of its illegality it should be wiped off the map, and shifted, this is not what most people like to believe, a call for genocide.

Number 2, i still have a problem with him denying the holocaust, but again what he has said is fair, European jews died in the holocaust, not middle-easterners, what part did Palestine lay in this process? Why i it them that are paying the price? That is fair. However, he still denied a fact, though I think it would be amusing to allow him to send an impartial team to investigate!

So comments aside, as they seem to be used as propaganda, Ronnie says Iranian troops and weapons seem to turn up at random places. May I point out if that statement is not applicable to the US, I dont know what is.

cont....
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by reuben110-2009 August 23, 2006 9:23 PM EDT
Moreover, allow me to re-iterate, again it appears we want confrontation by the sound of our tone. We are derogatory, and we are coming across as too arrogant. The UN is a world body, not a US body, we make it sound like sanctions are a foregone conclusion, whereas the resolution states sanctions maybe applicable, not definately applicable, provided Irans business partners agree and do not veto. Again our stratey here is typical of our ludricous foreign policy. The truth is we want to attack Iran. So we are hoping they expand enrichment to provide us with an alliby.

And finally Ronnie, countries that steal oil(oil exports from Iraq to US up 186% IN THE PAST 24 MONTHS) are rightly accused of trying to dominate the oil supply, especially when the same country uses 40% of the worlds production, in my book that is a fair accusation, irrespective of whether the accusing country possesses oil or not. Not hypocritical, its unfortunately factual!
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by reuben110-2009 August 23, 2006 9:29 PM EDT
Having said that I do agree with Ronnie surprisingly enough, we do need guarentees that Iran will stop enrichment, in fact I would go so far as to say, Irans capabilities ought to be dismantled. However again, suspension should not be a pre-requisite, its us who are doing the requesting here. Why should they accept something that effectively says, you suspend your inalienable right under international law, and we may provide you with an off you may find accetable. We need guarentees, and pronto, so we must offer something that Iran accepts. Not the other way around.
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