AUSTIN, Texas, Aug. 20, 2006

'Peace Mom' Hurls Words At Karl Rove

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(AP)  Chanting "Try Rove for treason," Cindy Sheehan and more than 50 other war protesters disrupted a reception before President Bush's top adviser Karl Rove spoke at a fundraiser Saturday.

One woman was arrested during a scuffle with police after Sheehan and the anti-war demonstrators rushed toward the closed doors and kept chanting loudly after the guests went into the dinner.

Rove was speaking to the Associated Republicans of Texas, and ticket prices started at $200. He was not in the Renaissance Hotel lobby during the reception.

"I want him arrested. He planned the war that killed my son," Sheehan told officers guarding the door. Sheehan's oldest son Casey was killed in Iraq in 2004.

Police then ordered the group to leave, but some protesters had paid for rooms for the night. Those protesters went upstairs, including Sheehan.

One protester slipped inside the ballroom during the dinner but was escorted out after shouting about men and women dying, the Austin American-Statesman reported in its Sunday editions.

"Pat, did you get her check before she left?" Rove quipped to the GOP group's executive director, Pat Robbins, as the crowd of 300 laughed, the newspaper reported.

"I don't question the patriotism of our critics. Many are hardworking public servants who are doing the best they can. Some of them are people looking for a free meal," Rove said, drawing more laughs.

Earlier, wearing shorts and T-shirts while guests of the lobby reception walked past in sequined dresses and expensive suits, anti-war demonstrators carried American flags and signs, including one that read "Check your conscience." A few protesters unfurled a large banner from a sixth-floor hotel balcony that read "Rove v. Truth: No Contest. Pink slip Rove."

Those at the reception sipped their drinks and largely ignored the protesters before they started chanting. One man looked at the group and said, "Go Bush!"

Earlier Saturday, the group of more than 70 gathered at the hotel entrance, carrying a large banner that read, "Rove: Guilty of crimes against humanity."

Ann Wright, a former U.S. diplomat who resigned in 2003 in protest over the war, yelled through a bullhorn, "Karl Rove, you are a criminal!"

After about 30 minutes, Austin police made them move onto grass at the edge of the property about a block away. Dozens remained later Saturday, holding signs as cars drove by, honking their horns.

Sheehan and the group left their campsite in Crawford near Mr. Bush's ranch, where they have held vigil the past two weeks, and drove about 100 miles south to Austin.

The war protest will continue until early September, although Mr. Bush's ranch 10-day ranch vacation ended last weekend. Sheehan's 26-day protest last August drew more than 10,000 people to her campsite in ditches off the rural road leading to the ranch, but she recently bought land near downtown for the group to camp on.



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by ronniehm August 20, 2006 4:27 PM PDT
Why is this woman called the peace mom? She doesn't strike me as particularly peaceful. More like throwing gasoline on a fire. Nothing she suggests would result in peace.
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by kylara02 August 20, 2006 5:43 PM PDT
After last night's experience of being pushed and shoved by Ms. Sheehan's pink claid comrades, as well as having Ms. Sheehan physically charge and nearly knocking me down, I would have to say that "Peace Mom" is the last thing I would think of calling that woman. Protest if you like, Ms. Sheehan, it's your right to do so; however, it is not your right to endanger people like myself who are caught in the middle of your reckless antics. What type of message are you really sending when you and your followers are charging and running over single moms like myself? You are fortunate that no one was injured and that assault charges were not filed. Please keep that in mind next time you choose to cross the line.
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by jailrove August 20, 2006 8:09 PM PDT
I agree! It's Karl Rove who should be called a "Peace Dad" because he's the one raising money to bring peace and democracy to the Middle East.
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by jailrove August 20, 2006 8:36 PM PDT
Or Mr Rove should be called the "Great Quipster."
As protesters were being pushed back and reporters were out of earshot, he let lose with this: "Wait, isn't that Senator Lieberman with them? He's a real master at being all over the place at the same time!"
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by Steve Podvoll August 20, 2006 8:57 PM PDT
Typical of Bush-ites, rather than offer counterpoint to Ms. Sheehan and her ilk, resort to ad-hominem attack.
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by duffyn August 20, 2006 9:26 PM PDT
Cindy Sheehan is a great woman with a lot of guts and energy. It takes a strong person to stand up to an ignorant populace. She has a great question - that to my knowledge has never been answered. "What did my son die for". And please don't tell us for our freedom, or because we took out Saddam who tortured people, or because we had to get rid of those WMD's, or because forcing democracy down people's throat at gun point is going to make use safer.
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by kylara02 August 20, 2006 10:52 PM PDT
It is not okay for Ms. Sheehan, or anyone else, to incite chaos and infringe upon the rights of others while protesting. There is nothing peaceful about stampeding over hotel employees who are simply doing their jobs. We respected her right to protest; however, she abused that right when she chose to violate the rights of others. I have the right not to be physically assaulted in ANY manner for ANY purpose. I should be able to go to work and support my children without the chaos her group incited last night. When Ms. Sheehan disregards the rights of others...that makes her no better than the people she stands against. I do not support the war, but I also do not support riotous protesting.
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by jbb333 August 20, 2006 11:48 PM PDT
I'm sorry, but the hypocrisy of Karl Rove is sickening. Cindy Shaheen's child died to a war that her fellow citizens no longer support, partly because we were lied to to get into it (for example, the famous "16 words") and partly because Mr. Rove orchestrated the biggest photo-op in history, to announce that the mission in Iraq was "accomplished" and since then THOUSANDS (plural) more troops have died.
And now, while under the same roof with this mother, this is the first thing that comes to his mind:
"Pat, did you get her check before she left?" Rove quipped to the GOP group's executive director, Pat Robbins, as the crowd of 300 laughed, the newspaper reported.

And the crowd LAUGHED? GAG!
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by carlylaine August 21, 2006 2:58 AM PDT
Cindy Sheehan is nothing more than a faker out for attention. I do not take her seriously. She should be tried and convicted of treason.
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by carlylaine August 21, 2006 3:02 AM PDT
I should say I do not take her plight seriously. Her antics, obviously, should be taken seriously because she did her best to insite a riot.
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by duffyn August 21, 2006 3:57 AM PDT
I find the complaints about Cindy's behavior rather amusing considering what the bush admin has caused to the people in Iraq. Go live there (Iraq) for a week and you'd be knocking over people to incite a riot about it too!! Esp if one of your loved one's was dead becuase of it.

Don't get me wrong, I love our troops. They've just been incredibly mislead. Most of them thought we went in to Iraq to get even with Iraq.
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by duffyn August 21, 2006 3:59 AM PDT
Correction! Last sentence should read. Most of them thought we went into Iraq to get even with 9/11!!! Run over me Cindy - no problemo!!
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by alphaa10-2009 August 21, 2006 4:27 AM PDT
I love the comments from harummphing GOP boosters who suddenly exclaim they realize Cindy Sheehan is just trying to get attention. They want simply to go quietly about their business raising children for war, paying taxes for war and denying the absurdity of it all.

Street protest has an major role though American history. But protest is hard on the protestor. There is the personal wear and tear, the barrage of abuse from those who cannot disagree in a civil way, and most of all, the profound drain on resources simply to keep the vigil.

In the 1960's, too, there was plenty to protest. Martin Luther King and many others, black and white, were gassed, beaten and gunned down for protesting civil rights. Vietnam brought protestors into the streets by the thousands.

But a small group of mothers protesting Iraq? Rove and his co-conspirators should thank their benighted stars, and be grateful. They probably are, because they know the alternative is coming.
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by kylara02 August 21, 2006 8:48 AM PDT
This is was scares me most about this country. No one can separate themselves from their far left or right views. I'm not "siding" with anyone...but to see comments where people believe it's okay to be physically aggressive towards innocent bystanders in order to "protest"...that's no better than the police (without cause) beating peaceful protestors. Regardless, of what side you are on, it is important to remember that one bad deed in response to another bad deed does not equal a good deed....just a lot of bad ones.
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by kylara02 August 21, 2006 9:48 AM PDT
I said physically violent people...I have no problem with people sitting in...I think it's wrong what the police did to protestors in the 60s, and I think it's wrong for Sheehan to use physical force now. MADD enforced change in our society without physically assaulting other mothers...I think Sheehan's band of mothers should follow those rules. Peaceful protest is not for wimps, but Ghandi certainly accomplished a miracle with peaceful protest...if Sheehan and others continue to stampede innocent bystanders...they risk losing their cause entirely.
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by capritch August 21, 2006 10:48 AM PDT
While I empathize with Ms Sheehan in the lose of her son - didn't she give him up when he was 9 years old. So why is she blaming President Bush, the war and Mr. Rove for his death? Maybe if she had kept her son, his fate would have been different.
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by kylara02 August 21, 2006 10:53 AM PDT
I do sympathize for her loss. I cannot imagine losing one of my children for any reason. I do not want to judge or attack her personal life. But, I am a petite, single mother of two. It is unjustifiable from any political viewpoint that I should go to work and fear being crushed by a door because protestors choose to rush and stampede a privately designated area. Nor did I expect Cindy Sheehan to plow over me in her attempt to break through to an area that was not open to the public. Fortunately, a gentleman behind me held me up so that I was not trampled by Sheehan or anyone else. It is a shame that they abused their right to protest by physically assaulting and endangering hotel staff. That is my point%u2026and it has no political or religious affiliation attached.
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by kylara02 August 21, 2006 11:16 AM PDT
Final Thought: The use of physical force against innocent bystanders is a violation of the American rights and freedoms that Casey Sheehan defended. To violate those rights in his name is abominable.
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by duffyn August 21, 2006 11:31 AM PDT
Final thought. I wonder where what we caused in Iraq fits into "using physical force to harm harming innocent bystanders". I sure don't call it defending ayone's rights. Raping, killing, torturing innocent people, turning their country into a living hell? Yeah, you stand up for those innocent bystander's over here, but forget what's happening over in Iraq. If Cindy would've been polite do you really think they would let her in? That said, if anyone got hurt, they do have a right to an apology and compensation. Just don't forget, I'm not blaming our soldiers - just their leaders. As far if she gave up her son, that sure doesn't mean she didn't love him - if it's even true. The BS level seems to have shot up considrably in the last 6 years.
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by getalife7 August 21, 2006 11:33 AM PDT
I do understand that she is upset about her sons loss. There is a time to morn and I feel like all she has done is drag what he stood for in the dirt. He went into the army wanting to fight for his country and he did, he died for his country, but his mother is angry about it. It doesn't matter whether or not we should be over there. He died fighting for his country, lets repect that, he give his life for us and his own mother turns around and starts protesting everything he stood for, what a mother. I wish she would like about what she is doing and remember her son and what he stood for.
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by duffyn August 21, 2006 11:40 AM PDT
I think as a legacy to her son who was representing our country - we all need to understand why he died. If someone wants to say for world domination, to lead in global economics, so we can control a major chunk of world oil - I bet she could live with that. No, I cheer her on! She's a little radical but I think it's needed. Ya know to his small small credit bush did say the other day (this is not exact) "We can't just pull out of Iraq and leave all that oil money to the terrorists"!! Ah yes after - what is this? Three years - a glimmer.
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by KOOLSTUF August 21, 2006 12:32 PM PDT
CarlyLane: You should go to bed at nite !!! You
implied Sheehan "faked" her son's death ??? She commits "TREASON" with her actions, and those who
support her ??? Of course, she "incites". What
Bush and those who pull his strings have done is
somewhat beyond "incite". YOU commit "TREASON"
by repudiating her constitutionally-supported
RIGHTS to express what she feels/believes!

And Gonzocon: Not "NICE" for those ruffians to throw someone else's tea into a harbor; and they
forgot their MANNERS by not dressing in kind while shooting at those "Redcoats" who were here
because they were paid to be (until deserting).
But aren't you glad they did all that ??? It's
also not NICE to get "DEAD", or lose brains or
other body parts, as did all those in WWI, WW II,
Korea, Nam, the Alamo, the Spanish-American War,
and assorted other places where they went, for
wanting to serve the rest of us -- and by often
ill-advised orders from self-serving politicians.

Regardless of your political bent, if you REALLY
pay attention, you'd acknowledege those elected
had sold our government to special interest folks;
and while they're driven by greed for power and
money from those sources, they deserve to be told
how the rest of the Nation feels. (Not that it's
likely until people starting learning how and why to vote. NEITHER Party truly serves US !!!)
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by marybethinct August 21, 2006 12:37 PM PDT
She sure is a thorn in Bush's ***!
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by time2toss August 21, 2006 12:42 PM PDT
I hope sheehan continues to relentlessly hound Bush & company. They have really messed things up for this country. Their gross mismanagement and false justifications for the resulting Iraqi conflict is slowly turning out to be everything that Bush & company said it wouldn't be.

Lies from the Bush Administration come first and endure... until the truth cannot be ignored or explained away anymore. Once that point is reached, the administration does all it can to minimize the recoil from their about-face(s) with careful wording and all tactics available to them.

Is this good leadership? NOT.

Good leadership makes good decisions, and dosen't have to spend much of their attention trying to maintain image when things inevitably fall apart.

We need good leadership for a change.

Go, Cindy! NEVER stop!
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by maxbjd August 21, 2006 12:46 PM PDT
Please read this.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/view/

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I respect her resolve...period!
Whether you agree with her or not.

She wants to understand what her son died for.
If you say protecting this country the you are very naive.

He died to secure the world's 2nd largest oil reserve for our economic interests. We had to get a hold of this before the Iraqis went off and made energy deals with China and India on ther own.
I believe that the Sudan and Venezuela have already done so. You think that US Government is going to tell you that plainly. Just like we went to Afghanistan to find Osama Bin Laden....right!
We went to ensure that the Khyber Pass Oil Pipeline gets implemented. I believe that the US bases there even follow the planned route of the pipeline.

This administration understands that the average person is not that smart. So they can sell you that peace and freedom stuff and we believe it. Because we are afraid and we let them do whatever they want. You want the Cyndi Sheehans of the world to go away and let me get back to my cozy little life of consuming and self-indulgence.

Wake up and realize the responsibility that has been bestowed upon you. We are the leaders of the free world and not war-mongers for "Big Oil".


Regards,
Maxbjd

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by kylara02 August 21, 2006 12:51 PM PDT
Just as we were about to enter into real discussion without the radical rhetoric...here we go again. No wonder we can't seem to get anywhere.

Protest, make your points, but dont violate the rights of your fellow Americans in the process...that makes you equally guilty.
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by maxbjd August 21, 2006 1:07 PM PDT
kylara02...

Define "Radical Rhetoric"?

I dont believe anything anyone has said here is radical. Stop your whining and debate the real issues. Ok you got pushed....but what the administration is doing to you is far worst than that. Think about it some and maybe you will realize it. I bet if you ponder on it as long as you have the "jostling" you received then you might actually attain some enlightenment on the real issues at hand.

Think about those poor petite mother holding their babies as we were dropping 500 and 1000 pound bombs in civilian neighborhoods. Even if you dont die....how many young ones had their ear drums ruptured and their hearing lost for life?

Your little push don't sound so bad now does it?

Maxbjd

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by kylara02 August 21, 2006 1:22 PM PDT
max...

I acutally wasnt directing my statement towards your posting; however, your indifferent attitude towards one's personal rights and freedoms scares me.

Of course I feel for the people in Iraq, as well as Africa, Israel, Lebanon, and here in the U.S. My heart goes out to all of them.

BUT, if we, the people, begin to disregard the rights and freedoms of our own fellow Americans -and yes, that includes the use of brute force against innocent bystanders during a protest, then we all fail. That is my point.
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by jarheadjeff August 21, 2006 1:25 PM PDT
Whiners..Are you sitting there reading this actually convinced that you know a better way to run the country? So what if we DO have to fight for oil? What if it was suddenly denied us...complete oil embargo? How would that affect your life? Would you be able to survive, would you be able to make it to work (if your job still existed), pay your bills? Would the food that you couldn't grow yourselves make it to your table? How would you get the clothes on your back...weave them and with what? Would you be able to defend yourself and your home from being taken from you by thugs that have no home because they can't get the materials to build one? Think about what would happen to this country of yours or have you not thought that one out? This goes way beyond stupid conspiracy theories and protecting the right to protest...SO WHAT.

I for one would go to war for oil, would you? Not that I couldn't survive without it, but I would do it so that this nation and her economy could survive. Until we find an readily produced alternative we will have to resort to whatever measures are necessary keep it coming...and cheap too! So BFD with your war for oil chant. SO WHAT...if Casey died so that we could have oil, I'd rank him a big hero in my book, which is more than I could say about most of you gas guzzling SUV driving hypocrites.
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by time2toss August 21, 2006 2:57 PM PDT
It'll be easy to find better leadership.
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by maxbjd August 21, 2006 3:37 PM PDT
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/04/60minutes/main1588659.shtml

jarheadjeff...

Please ... spare me the big macho Marine stuff!

Been there! Done that! Nobody who is sane wants war. Let alone to fight for oil...please. That is sooo archaic and absurd. The link above shows that oil as a fuel is obselete and that viable alternatives do exist. That can be delivered to market more readily and cheaper also.

Read and become enlightened my friend! If Brazil can do it you telling we cannot? I'm telling you that the "Powers that be" don't want to do it.

We simply need to cut our dependency on this stuff. Will not happen as long as we keep electing politicians that maintain the "status quo".

Vote them out people!

Maxbjd


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by aishteru-2009 August 21, 2006 4:09 PM PDT
This is a thought to all.

I do not understand why people complain about our President doing the things he does. I may or may not be able to do a better job, for I know there is none perfect. If you think, %u201Cwho ever you are,%u201D can do a better job, why don%u2019t you run for president? At least the Presidents stands firm on his beliefs.
Now for those who say that the President killed their children. I would think he did not, for we are not in draft situation like wars in our past. People volunteer to the Oath of enlistment, %u201Cand that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." You see, they volunteered just as I did when I enlisted. So why complain about what your child wanted to do. Please, do not take me wrong, when my daughter enlisted, I did not want her to, but I could not stop her. Moreover, she has been injured once and wants to go to Iraq. It bothers me deeply, but she is doing something she believes in and I will back her and all of our military, whether I believe in what they are doing or not.
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by time2toss August 21, 2006 4:35 PM PDT
It's so obvious that this president has been so much more flawed than his predecessors, including his own father.

He not only lacks the refinement and eloquence, every day it becomes more and more apparent that his leadership is equally flawed.

George W. Bush is the Jimmy Carter of Republican presidents, except when Carter's use of military failed miserably, it was only a couple of helicopters that went down in the sand, and not billions spent and thousands dead, with an occupied country spiraling into civil war.

Some conservatives just can't see the obvious, even when it's staring them in the face.
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by jarheadjeff August 21, 2006 5:09 PM PDT
aishteru,

It's easy to complain, but much much harder to develop a workable plan of your own and then see to it's execution. Sheehan is just another complainer. She is not bright enough to offer an alternative solution...just whine and complain...just a stain on her son's memory. I hate to say it but that is why the Dems lost in the last election. (Before anyone jumps on me I am an Indie.) All I heard out of the likes of Kerry was more complaining, no solutions, no better plan. If you can't lead or lack a better plan, you simply complain about the current leader's performance and hope that the people are dumb enough to listen to you and fall for it. (And to think that one man or woman can fix it all anyway is ludicrous).

Dems...take note. If you want it back, quit the *******'. Start electing some talent with some new ideas. Propose solutions and explain your plan..and for Godsakes don't pander. Don't worry, most folks are smarter than you think and can follow along with you. Also, do you really want the likes of Kerry, Kenedy, Pelosi, and Looney Tunes Dean speaking for you? Oh yeah, Clinton doesn't stand a chance. Spend your time on a more marketable candidate. Someone without a negative history.
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by maxbjd August 21, 2006 5:38 PM PDT
aishteru...

History is full of dictators who stood firm on their beliefs...please!

Try thinking for yourself for a while. Turn off FoxNews and dissemenate info from some others sources.

This President is the worst of the modeern era...

He is Nero! And Rome is Burning!
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by maxbjd August 21, 2006 5:45 PM PDT
jarheadjeff...

Im Indie....right! Sure sound like a Republican to me.

As to your point about a better plan....I thought John Kerry had one. It was spelled out on his website. Did you read it at all?

Bottom-line is that the Republicans used scare tactics to win. People like you believe they are so smart...but you are not really. In fact they count on smart ones to side with them and vote for them.

Remember "Willie Horton" the Dems were going to release thousands of them. Better keep the Republicans in charge to keep our streets safe.
Sound familiar? Better vote for Bush the Dems are soft on Terror. They will let Osama run this country and just sing and hold hands all the while.

You make me laugh Jeff....they love guys like you!
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by jarheadjeff August 21, 2006 8:48 PM PDT
Max,

Good, laughing is good. We all need to laugh more. For the record, I was raised a democrat. Voted democratic ticket from age 18 through the 2000 election when I voted for Gore and Lieberman. I was serioulsy turned off and surprised by the actions that Gore and the Democratic party took as a result of that election. Sort of like the first baseball strike...pissed me off so much, I stopped watching baseball. Haven't watch it since. And so it goes with the democratic party. I'm not a party guy anymore, I vote for the person. I voted for Bush in the last election because Kerry was the bigger liar and quite honestly, a pandering buffoon. I like Gore and I like Lieberman and would vote for them again. However, if the Dems can't come up with a winner, I'd rather have Bush..stupid as he is.

Just to keep this on track.....Sheehan, you should have spent your Son's SGLI on something constructive...like plastic surgery!!
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by kathywathy-2009 August 21, 2006 9:13 PM PDT
I'm sick and tired of reading and looking at cindy Sheehan,
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by ronniehm August 21, 2006 9:39 PM PDT
Man, Casey would be pissed. Did she even get him a headstone yet?
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by ourtomorrows August 22, 2006 1:17 AM PDT
Cindy Sheehan continues to impress me with her clear, concise rhetoric. Insults and character assassination are so Vietnam era, it takes me right back. She has a right to make her views known and no one but she and her family know how her son would feel about what she is doing. That is there business and theirs alone.

However, I for one find her repulsive and obnoxious but then again, I find all types of aggressive protests like hers obnoxious. Under teh constitution, people have the right to make their voices heard, to march, picket, publish magazines, books, pamphlets, go on radio, tv, the web--all of that is what protects our democracy. however, people who have paid to attend a PRIVATE fundraiser or any other event have, and I know this will shock and horrify some of you, they actually have rights too, believe it or not. they have a right not to be harassed and yelled at. Just because Cindy Sheehan and her group do not agree wtih the policies that Karl Rove represents gives them NO RIGHT AT ALL to harass guests that have come to hear him speak.
Those people have a right to attend that dinner and not to be interfered with just as people would ahve the right to attend a dinner or event featuring Ms. Sheehan without having to worry about being screeched at by someone from the other side of the spectrum.

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by ourtomorrows August 22, 2006 1:17 AM PDT
Cindy Sheehan continues to impress me with her clear, concise rhetoric. Insults and character assassination are so Vietnam era, it takes me right back. She has a right to make her views known and no one but she and her family know how her son would feel about what she is doing. That is there business and theirs alone.

However, I for one find her repulsive and obnoxious but then again, I find all types of aggressive protests like hers obnoxious. Under teh constitution, people have the right to make their voices heard, to march, picket, publish magazines, books, pamphlets, go on radio, tv, the web--all of that is what protects our democracy. however, people who have paid to attend a PRIVATE fundraiser or any other event have, and I know this will shock and horrify some of you, they actually have rights too, believe it or not. they have a right not to be harassed and yelled at. Just because Cindy Sheehan and her group do not agree wtih the policies that Karl Rove represents gives them NO RIGHT AT ALL to harass guests that have come to hear him speak.
Those people have a right to attend that dinner and not to be interfered with just as people would ahve the right to attend a dinner or event featuring Ms. Sheehan without having to worry about being screeched at by someone from the other side of the spectrum.

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by ourtomorrows August 22, 2006 1:17 AM PDT
Cindy Sheehan continues to impress me with her clear, concise rhetoric. Insults and character assassination are so Vietnam era, it takes me right back. She has a right to make her views known and no one but she and her family know how her son would feel about what she is doing. That is there business and theirs alone.

However, I for one find her repulsive and obnoxious but then again, I find all types of aggressive protests like hers obnoxious. Under teh constitution, people have the right to make their voices heard, to march, picket, publish magazines, books, pamphlets, go on radio, tv, the web--all of that is what protects our democracy. however, people who have paid to attend a PRIVATE fundraiser or any other event have, and I know this will shock and horrify some of you, they actually have rights too, believe it or not. they have a right not to be harassed and yelled at. Just because Cindy Sheehan and her group do not agree wtih the policies that Karl Rove represents gives them NO RIGHT AT ALL to harass guests that have come to hear him speak.
Those people have a right to attend that dinner and not to be interfered with just as people would ahve the right to attend a dinner or event featuring Ms. Sheehan without having to worry about being screeched at by someone from the other side of the spectrum.

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by ourtomorrows August 22, 2006 1:18 AM PDT
Cindy Sheehan continues to impress me with her clear, concise rhetoric. Insults and character assassination are so Vietnam era, it takes me right back. She has a right to make her views known and no one but she and her family know how her son would feel about what she is doing. That is there business and theirs alone.

However, I for one find her repulsive and obnoxious but then again, I find all types of aggressive protests like hers obnoxious. Under teh constitution, people have the right to make their voices heard, to march, picket, publish magazines, books, pamphlets, go on radio, tv, the web--all of that is what protects our democracy. however, people who have paid to attend a PRIVATE fundraiser or any other event have, and I know this will shock and horrify some of you, they actually have rights too, believe it or not. they have a right not to be harassed and yelled at. Just because Cindy Sheehan and her group do not agree wtih the policies that Karl Rove represents gives them NO RIGHT AT ALL to harass guests that have come to hear him speak.
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by ourtomorrows August 22, 2006 1:18 AM PDT
Those people have a right to attend that dinner and not to be interfered with just as people would ahve the right to attend a dinner or event featuring Ms. Sheehan without having to worry about being screeched at by someone from the other side of the spectrum.


People like Cindy Sheehan really get me. They protest against unjust wars, the erosion of citizens rights but they will be the first to trample on the rights of those who do not agree with them.
Lasty, for me, my perception of Ms. Sheehan was perhaps solidified by her a bit ago to Venezuela to meet with President Chavez. The ultimate irony--an alleged champion of civil disobedience and dissent meeting with a man who, for the last two years, has embarked on an ever expanding campaing of censorship and restrictions on those who oppose him. (Oh, and that comes not from the US press, but from opposition leaders in his own country.)
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by fartnocker2 August 22, 2006 5:29 PM PDT
Best friend to OBL = Sheehand
Best friend to Chivetz = Sheehand
Best friend to Castro = Sheehand
Best friend to Iran = Sheehand
Only this country would allow during a war and a fight for our own lives to allow someone like that to protest . It has made her very evry rich and bosted her ego to level hard to understand.Her son joined knowing he would have to go to war.Now she has made his death all go in vain.
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