JonBenet Confession Under Scrutiny

Suspect's Statements Compared To Other Claims, Facts In 1996 Murder

(CBS/AP)  As more details of John Mark Karr's confession to the killing of JonBenet Ramsey surface, several aspects of the former schoolteacher's account raise questions about his role in the 6-year-old's death in 1996.

Karr claims he drugged JonBenet and then had sex with the child, but an autopsy said a blood screening showed no drugs or alcohol in the child's body. Also, while Karr reportedly claims to have sexually assaulted JonBenet, no semen was found on her body. However, the little girl did have small vaginal abrasions.

Karr has not yet been formally charged, Boulder, Colo., district attorney Mary Lacy said in a news conference Thursday, adding that there is "much more work" to be done in the case. She warned the public not to "jump to conclusions," and suggested that the arrest may have been forced by other circumstances, including the need for public safety and fear that Karr might flee.

Karr's ex-wife, Lara Karr, who divorced him in 2001, told KGO-TV in San Francisco that during the 1996 Christmas season, when JonBenet Ramsey was strangled and beaten to death in Colorado, she and her then-husband were living in Alabama — and that she was with him the entire season.

A Thai police official said Karr told Thai interrogators that he picked up JonBenet at her school and brought her to the basement the day she was killed, Dec. 26, 1996, the day after Christmas — a highly unlikely scenario.

DNA was found beneath JonBenet's fingernails and inside her underwear, but Wood said two years ago that detectives were unable to match it to anyone in an FBI database. It was not known whether investigators had any DNA evidence against Karr, despite serving time in a California jail in 2001 on child pornography charges. Sonoma County Chief Deputy District Attorney Joan Risse confirmed the pornography charges and an outstanding arrest warrant against a John M. Karr, though she didn't know if he was the same person being held in the Ramsey case.

CBS News 48 Hours correspondent Erin Moriarty reports that investigators may have arrested Karr this week not because they had definitive evidence linking him to the Ramsey murder, but because they feared he might hurt a child in Thailand.

A former Boulder district attorney who investigated the Ramsey case tells Moriarty he has serious doubts about any confession because of the amount of public information surrounding the case. "I am very concerned about the viability of this case today, it does not sound to me like they've done their homework sufficiently to have arrested him at this time," says Trip DeMuth.

But the deciding factor will be the DNA evidence found at the crime scene.

"I think if this DNA excludes this suspect, this prosecutor has a serious problem on her hands," DeMuth says.

Sources tell CBS News tests have been conducted, but the results are not yet known. Karr was given a mouth-swab DNA test in Bangkok, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.

If the DNA does not match Karr's, this won't be the first time investigators thought they had evidence leading to the killer.

No evidence against Karr has been made public beyond his own admission. U.S. and Thai officials did not directly answer a question at the news conference Thursday about whether there was DNA evidence connecting him to the crime.

Even the Colorado professor who swapped four years' worth of e-mails with Karr and brought him to the attention of prosecutors in May refused to characterize the suspect either as killer or kook.

"I don't know that he's guilty," said Michael Tracey, who teaches journalism at the University of Colorado. "Obviously, I went to the district attorney for a reason, but let him have his day in court and let JonBenet have her day in court and let's see how it plays out."

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by fr0g1 August 17, 2006 12:25 PM PDT

Suwat said. He said Karr told Thai interrogators that he picked JonBenet up at her school and brought her to the basement.
There wouldn't have been school that day, the night she was killed, as it was Christmas Eve.

But according to the time line it states December 25, 1996: The Ramseys attend a Christmas dinner at 5:00 p.m. at the Fleet White residence. After the family returns home, JonBenit is carried? to bed at about 9:30 p.m. The family had plans to fly to Michigan early the next morning.

Then there was the mention of Kerr's ex-wife who stated that "she and her then-husband were living in Alabama, and she was with him the entire Christmas season."

I think there is an obsession on his part in this as he spent allot of time on her murder:

Karr's ex-wife, Lara Karr, said John Karr often spent time reading up on the cases of Ramsey

His father told The Denver Post that while Karr was in college as an adult, a professor encouraged him to write a book about the Ramsey case after being impressed with a school paper.

Things just don't add up with what has been released to the press.

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by drrickards August 17, 2006 12:32 PM PDT

Unfortunately, this man cannot be the murderer of JonBenet if his testimony is that he brought her home from school and took her to the basement where her death occurred. She was at home the night of the murder-- not in school.

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by shaedreams August 17, 2006 1:44 PM PDT

Karr is obviously obsessed with children and is sick. He is trying to put himself in the center of this case and even states that it's too complicated, because what he's saying never happened. She didn't die in the middle of the afternoon on a school night as others have pointed out.

People never cease to amaze me at how freaky they truly can be.

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by claudiax-2009 August 17, 2006 1:53 PM PDT

how does one accidentally strangle someone? And why does he keep saying I love her (present tense)?

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by franimal2 August 17, 2006 2:04 PM PDT

CSB should be ashamed for the careless subtitle on this artice. This sicko did not "have *** with" a six year old. He RAPED her! This wording is damaging and disrespectful. Get it right next time!

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by barnes561 August 17, 2006 2:17 PM PDT

Until all the facts are brought to light, Mr. Karr's confession should be taken at face value and prosecution should begin immediately! He seems to know too much that somone not close to the crime wouldn't know and if he has kept this hidden for 10 years, then he deserves severe punishment, if not the death penalty(which should be carried out posthaste after his conviction-not several years down the road). The untold suffering of the Ramsey family and the rumors and innuendos which still cloud their lives should be brought to bear in any trial in which Mr. Karr is the defendant.

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by jane5190 August 17, 2006 3:27 PM PDT

Extract from the above article:
"He said it was second-degree murder. He said it was unintentional," Suwat said. He said Karr told Thai interrogators that he picked JonBenet up at her school and brought her to the basement.

THERE WAS NO SCHOOL THAT DAY. JonBenet was murdered on the night of CHRISTMAS DAY (NOT CHRISTMAS EVE, CHRISTMAS DAY! JONBENET WAS FOUND DEAD ON DECEMBER 26, 1996).

This man is very ill and having an imaginary love affair with the child as she was 10 years ago. The "confession" and the events subsequent to it place him and JonBenet "together" which is satisfying his sick desire. Mary Lacy (Boulder DA) is wasting everyone's time.

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by joyce460 August 17, 2006 3:49 PM PDT

Did Karr just need free transportation back to the U.S. from Thailand? Nothing that has been reported to date convinces me that he was involved in JonBenet's death.

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by columbo30 August 17, 2006 4:28 PM PDT

If I remember correctly, the files on the case that were on the police computer had been broken into early in the case. This would constitute compromised evidence.

Does this suggest anything regarding details "not made public"?

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by yasmin9-2009 August 17, 2006 4:38 PM PDT

Until we know the "details he knows that were not made public," we cannot be certain he actually did it. He is obsessive about this case, and could have read many things about it, giving the impression of being, literally, an "insider" to the case, to the home and to JonBenet. Certainly, he is very ill and the small children of Bangkok, Thailand are a little safer; however, remember that Thailand is, and other countries in that region are, known as places where little children of all ages are available for just such pedophiles. It is also very likely that this person was molested himself as a child; a history that often reproduces itself in this way. P.S. Why is Lara Karr his ex?

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by vh9076 August 17, 2006 5:35 PM PDT

The comment about the school and the drugs (when there was no school and there were no drugs found in her system) worry me that this is not the guy. I hope they have more than his creepy obsession. I wonder if at least the school part was a misquote.

I am fasinated by the following article and comparison of Karr's photo w/ a sketch a well known psychic did back in 1998. If this is the right guy, then this coincidence is very uncanny.
http://www.channel3000.com/news/9695462/detail.html

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by fauxcreation August 17, 2006 5:47 PM PDT

I am inclined to agree with a few of the postings. I think this guy is a sick pedofile who is craving some sort of "sick limelight" and used this case to do it. The details and where he was located at the time do not match. His details do not coincide with the actual details of her sase information i.e., DNA, details, etc. If they find that his DNA does not match with the crime scene DNA, they should lock him away in an institution anyway because he is obviously very mentally ill. His statements about this case show that fact.

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by brownclint August 17, 2006 6:22 PM PDT

I find it very sick to hear an ad on this site for erectile disfunction while reading about a child rapist. CBS should really turn that add off when posting such related news.

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by wickman_d August 17, 2006 6:28 PM PDT

This is just his way of getting back to the United States.There were no drugs found in her body and she wasn't raped.If he stayed in Thiland he would probably be hung for sexually assulting a child.Here they get a slap on the hand!

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by rihan156 August 17, 2006 7:18 PM PDT

John Mark Karr is not Sorry! Yes, he is the murderer, based on the details gathered from the detectives' comments, and his statements.

Why had he been rounded up only now? Did Paty know, before she died that he was the suspect the police was tracking down? If his identity was known at that time, with what he did before, weren't some way to arrest him for questioning?

Since his arrest, he is saying it was an accident, he loved her, and was sorry. This guy is not stupid:
1) He had been able to elude police for 10 years despite the clues he left for them; why did he use the word "neck" when he sent his message to Paty?
2) As soon as he had been apprehended, his defense was to say immediately, "it was an accident; I loved her." Clearly, he had been watching TV and following closely on the Taylor Behl case where the murderer used the same argument, and got away with it. Karr is now using a similar strategy to get away with as much as he can. I hope the investigators will make sure he does not succeed, at least on that.
3) Sorry? Noooo, he is not; he is enjoying the spotlight and think he won and is plotting a second volume of "Meine Kampf". Look at the body language with the chin high and the tight lips! Unlike Taylor Behl's murdered who would like to hide under the earth and was unsure on how he screwed it up and how it will work out, this one is convinced he can pull it out. I hope not, dude!

May he stay in a cell alone until he meets his last day!

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by tomflint69 August 17, 2006 7:23 PM PDT

Dear brownclint, the ad never meant to get erection for child abuse or anything like that. CBS news understands better about public concerns before placing any ad than us. Ever imagine, how much CBSnews could earn per click on that ad :)

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by indyperson August 17, 2006 7:42 PM PDT

ok, how is this for a scenario,
he could be the biological father.. both lived in same general area.... similar physical features, same coloring.
Maybe is wanted to see his child at Christmas?
Maybe he wanted to hurt the family that took his child?
I know it's a twisted thought, but... would make for one heck of a twist. I bet Movie deals are in the talks.

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by indyperson August 17, 2006 7:42 PM PDT

ok, how is this for a scenario,
he could be the biological father.. both lived in same general area.... similar physical features, same coloring.
Maybe is wanted to see his child at Christmas?
Maybe he wanted to hurt the family that took his child?
I know it's a twisted thought, but... would make for one heck of a twist. I bet Movie deals are in the talks.

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by indyperson August 17, 2006 7:42 PM PDT

ok, how is this for a scenario,
he could be the biological father.. both lived in same general area.... similar physical features, same coloring.
Maybe is wanted to see his child at Christmas?
Maybe he wanted to hurt the family that took his child?
I know it's a twisted thought, but... would make for one heck of a twist. I bet Movie deals are in the talks.

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by kno-1 August 17, 2006 10:37 PM PDT

Though I cannot completely trust the filtering and sound bites of news outlets. I do not believe the confession of Karr as seen in the edited footage.
It is my belief that, though Karr is a pedophile and likely has left many victims thru his travels (both in child brothels and students). I have grave doubts as to the validity of his confession. From an armchair detectives POV, Karr's body language does not sync up with the story he tells. Look at his eyes. You can tell that when answering questions (no matter from what direction) Karr looks down, then up to the top right as he formulates his answer. This is an involuntary reflex indicating the person is accessing the creative aspect of his brain. Excessive blinking (even when many flash bulbs go off, he doesn't blink but casts his eyes downward) upon answering the questions along with focused and subdued demeanor are other tell tale signs of lies.
When specific questions concerning unreleased crime details are asked, Karr reacts with slightly widen eyes and quick rigidity following with a "no comment." IMO, this as nervousness. You can also see that he even doesn't look to the left and up to access data recall of his brain before deciding if said data should be conveyed. Another involuntary reflex.

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by kno-1 August 17, 2006 10:38 PM PDT

Another thought comes to mind as well.

I am glad he is in custody. If DNA doesn't match Karr in the Ramsey case, I believe that the police are carrying out a grave injustice by using a cold and popular case as a ruse to utilize a new law that is in place which allows the US to prosecute child abuse crimes across international borders.

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by cjmorgan7 August 18, 2006 12:09 AM PDT

I don't think Karr is guilty unless DNA proves otherwise. He's admitting to the crime for publicity reasons and to be able to claim insanity when he attends court for the pornography charge in California. He's plotted this over the years so when the time comes for his arrest and he gets apprehended for the California crimes. He will claim insane so he can get lessor time and not be sentenced for life in prison ro the California related crimes.

Connie Morgan
Dallas, Texas

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by cjmorgan7 August 18, 2006 12:10 AM PDT

I don't think Karr is guilty unless DNA proves otherwise. He's admitting to the crime for publicity reasons and to be able to claim insanity when he attends court for the pornography charge in California. He's plotted this over the years so when the time comes for his arrest and he gets apprehended for the California crimes. He will claim insane so he can get lessor time and not be sentenced for life in prison for the California crimes.

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by patinflorida August 18, 2006 7:58 AM PDT

I also don't believe his confession. I believe he is an ill person who wanted to get back to the US and out of the grasp of the Thailand police. He is probably guilty of a crime there, or was contemplating committing one. I think he is physically ill as well as mentally ill. He just has that aura. I do believe he is a pedophile. I believe he wishes that he had committed the Jon Benet murder. His statements just don't quite fit the facts. Much of what he states has been information that was available to the public. Ultimately, I think he was just looking for a way back to the US. He assumes he will be cleared of the crime once he is back here.

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by Ruby38 August 18, 2006 1:52 PM PDT

This story sounds ridiculous, I can't believe the media is focusing on this story, which will surely turn out to be a hoax from a mentally ill person. To think that there are missing people or other subjects that would benefit from some media coverage and so much time is being wasted on this wack job.

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by dougcl_79 August 18, 2006 4:29 PM PDT

I still think the parents are the ones who did it, and were able somehow to get away with it. Why would you refuse a polygraph unless you had something to hide?

May Patsy Ramsey burn in hell

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by kbmeador August 18, 2006 6:10 PM PDT

Personally, I think this man is mentally ill and truly believes he did it. Maybe he had an obsession with JonBenet that only recently came to light. But I see too many holes right now to fully believe that even if this man DID commit this horrendous act, that he did it alone. I still hold firm to the fact that Patsy Ramsey did this and I still believe that she did it in a jealous, angry rage, fed up with all the attention the child required, even though that said attention was the creation of Patsy herself. I think John knew AFTER THE FACT.. and by that, I mean after the discovery of the poor girls body. But the fact he never came forward with it makes him just as culpable. I feel sorry for their son. That boy did not ask, nor deserve, the mess that his parents left at his doorstep. I pray JonBenet has peace. And I pray that, whether those of us who believe Patsy did this or was involved, or not, I pray that Patsy gets what is deserved in the afterlife.

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by opinionated2 August 18, 2006 9:14 PM PDT

What school did he supposedly pick her up from? Wouldn't she be on Christmas break? The day after Christmas.....I would think she be home with her family like most kids??????

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by gilderqueen August 18, 2006 11:06 PM PDT

Bwwwhaaahaaahaaa! He's the biological father?????? How far out do you want to go with a theory??? LOL
This guy is an over-the-top obsessive-compulsive looking to enjoy his 15 brief moments of fame. End of story.

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by SuppaPP August 18, 2006 11:14 PM PDT

I also beleive that John is mentally sick.
He is just like a dreamer.

But he did not say that he drugged the girl neither kidnapped her from her shcool.

There must be some missunderstanding if someone told the media that he said so.

DNA will tell everything.

If teh DNA taken from John doesn't match with the DNA taken from JonBonet's body...why they will try to take him back to the US ???

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by oriestes August 19, 2006 1:35 AM PDT

Karr's appearance made me think twice I was not convinced that he was the person that killed this innocient little girl. Karr looked catatonic as if he is on some kind of a drug to calm him down and control him.I believe he has some type of psychosis and has feelings of grandious where he really believes that he is the one that killed this little girl. There is a danger here where law enforcement is not acting with respect for a person who is possibly mentally.I believe Karr is in need of help. Karr is fairly good looking so it is easy to think that he will be a great teacher I can see school officials not to think anything is wrong with him teaching young children. When I first saw him in front of the camera's I knew that his movements were not normal movements they seemed slow and un natural almost "robot like". There are people who are able to function and appear to be normal but are mentally ill.

I feel that the parents have more clues about the murder everytime I saw them on tv they did not appear to be sad and upset after their daughter was murdered they were always trying to deny their involvement rather than to comply with the investigation. I hope that this man mr karr is given some help and if he is a true pedifile Then he needs never to be allowed to be with children.

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by ldiane3 August 19, 2006 5:41 PM PDT

Look at the press coverage this guy is getting. For what? possibly murdering a defenseless little girl? That shows how sick society itself is. This guy looks more demented then the murderer or a little girl. I do not think he did it. He is just looking for some sort of sick fame, and if you think about it - he is getting exactly what he wants.

LDiane3

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by threehorses1 August 19, 2006 6:15 PM PDT

I really think that cjmorgan7's post (12:09 AM : Aug 18, 2006) nailed it. He's done enough research that it's possible that he picked up on information that was supposedly not publicly available. How many screwups have their been on this case? I don't believe that the information is quite as unobtainable as they would have us believe. So he drops some info he got from one of his interviews or his research, pleads he is insane (hey - pretty convincing, no?).

Also there are no charges in Taiwan. He was arrested 'before he could do anything'.

Yes, he's sick - but I think it's a different sort of sick than being presented.

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by lori2c August 20, 2006 12:45 PM PDT

Only the DNA is going to prove him innocent or guilty. The ex-wife has stated his interest in the case for many years and I am sure he did a lot of reading and research that has made him an "expert" on the information. If he is such an expert, then why is he blabbing so much incorrect information. His mannerisms, personally struck me as being homosexual. The way he walked around with the police officers was almost a "too cooperative" way. He has a very flat affect. It seemed to be an act. He was acting in a way that a possible murder suspect would act, but yet he was'nt. Very expressionless. No doubt he is guilty, but guilty of what? Guilty of being odd, weird, a pedafile, ***, a murderer? Who knows. I was so happy when I heard they made an arrest in this case, but now I really do not know. I know DNA results have to be in by this time, but the results and much more information are not being released at this time. Have you read where he now has admitted to killing Natalie Hollaway?

lori2c

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[fr0g1]

Suwat said. He said Karr told Thai interrogators that he picked JonBenet up at her school and brought her to the basement.
There wouldn't have been school that day, the night she was killed, as it was Christmas Eve.

But according to the time line it states December 25, 1996: The Ramseys attend a Christmas dinner at 5:00 p.m. at the Fleet White residence. After the family returns home, JonBenit is carried? to bed at about 9:30 p.m. The family had plans to fly to Michigan early the next morning.

Then there was the mention of Kerr's ex-wife who stated that "she and her then-husband were living in Alabama, and she was with him the entire Christmas season."

I think there is an obsession on his part in this as he spent allot of time on her murder:

Karr's ex-wife, Lara Karr, said John Karr often spent time reading up on the cases of Ramsey

His father told The Denver Post that while Karr was in college as an adult, a professor encouraged him to write a book about the Ramsey case after being impressed with a school paper.

Things just don't add up with what has been released to the press.

[drrickards]

Unfortunately, this man cannot be the murderer of JonBenet if his testimony is that he brought her home from school and took her to the basement where her death occurred. She was at home the night of the murder-- not in school.

[shaedreams]

Karr is obviously obsessed with children and is sick. He is trying to put himself in the center of this case and even states that it's too complicated, because what he's saying never happened. She didn't die in the middle of the afternoon on a school night as others have pointed out.

People never cease to amaze me at how freaky they truly can be.

[claudiax-2009]

how does one accidentally strangle someone? And why does he keep saying I love her (present tense)?

[franimal2]

CSB should be ashamed for the careless subtitle on this artice. This sicko did not "have *** with" a six year old. He RAPED her! This wording is damaging and disrespectful. Get it right next time!

[barnes561]

Until all the facts are brought to light, Mr. Karr's confession should be taken at face value and prosecution should begin immediately! He seems to know too much that somone not close to the crime wouldn't know and if he has kept this hidden for 10 years, then he deserves severe punishment, if not the death penalty(which should be carried out posthaste after his conviction-not several years down the road). The untold suffering of the Ramsey family and the rumors and innuendos which still cloud their lives should be brought to bear in any trial in which Mr. Karr is the defendant.

[jane5190]

Extract from the above article:
"He said it was second-degree murder. He said it was unintentional," Suwat said. He said Karr told Thai interrogators that he picked JonBenet up at her school and brought her to the basement.

THERE WAS NO SCHOOL THAT DAY. JonBenet was murdered on the night of CHRISTMAS DAY (NOT CHRISTMAS EVE, CHRISTMAS DAY! JONBENET WAS FOUND DEAD ON DECEMBER 26, 1996).

This man is very ill and having an imaginary love affair with the child as she was 10 years ago. The "confession" and the events subsequent to it place him and JonBenet "together" which is satisfying his sick desire. Mary Lacy (Boulder DA) is wasting everyone's time.

[joyce460]

Did Karr just need free transportation back to the U.S. from Thailand? Nothing that has been reported to date convinces me that he was involved in JonBenet's death.

[columbo30]

If I remember correctly, the files on the case that were on the police computer had been broken into early in the case. This would constitute compromised evidence.

Does this suggest anything regarding details "not made public"?

[yasmin9-2009]

Until we know the "details he knows that were not made public," we cannot be certain he actually did it. He is obsessive about this case, and could have read many things about it, giving the impression of being, literally, an "insider" to the case, to the home and to JonBenet. Certainly, he is very ill and the small children of Bangkok, Thailand are a little safer; however, remember that Thailand is, and other countries in that region are, known as places where little children of all ages are available for just such pedophiles. It is also very likely that this person was molested himself as a child; a history that often reproduces itself in this way. P.S. Why is Lara Karr his ex?

[vh9076]

The comment about the school and the drugs (when there was no school and there were no drugs found in her system) worry me that this is not the guy. I hope they have more than his creepy obsession. I wonder if at least the school part was a misquote.

I am fasinated by the following article and comparison of Karr's photo w/ a sketch a well known psychic did back in 1998. If this is the right guy, then this coincidence is very uncanny.
http://www.channel3000.com/news/9695462/detail.html

[fauxcreation]

I am inclined to agree with a few of the postings. I think this guy is a sick pedofile who is craving some sort of "sick limelight" and used this case to do it. The details and where he was located at the time do not match. His details do not coincide with the actual details of her sase information i.e., DNA, details, etc. If they find that his DNA does not match with the crime scene DNA, they should lock him away in an institution anyway because he is obviously very mentally ill. His statements about this case show that fact.

[brownclint]

I find it very sick to hear an ad on this site for erectile disfunction while reading about a child rapist. CBS should really turn that add off when posting such related news.

[wickman_d]

This is just his way of getting back to the United States.There were no drugs found in her body and she wasn't raped.If he stayed in Thiland he would probably be hung for sexually assulting a child.Here they get a slap on the hand!

[rihan156]

John Mark Karr is not Sorry! Yes, he is the murderer, based on the details gathered from the detectives' comments, and his statements.

Why had he been rounded up only now? Did Paty know, before she died that he was the suspect the police was tracking down? If his identity was known at that time, with what he did before, weren't some way to arrest him for questioning?

Since his arrest, he is saying it was an accident, he loved her, and was sorry. This guy is not stupid:
1) He had been able to elude police for 10 years despite the clues he left for them; why did he use the word "neck" when he sent his message to Paty?
2) As soon as he had been apprehended, his defense was to say immediately, "it was an accident; I loved her." Clearly, he had been watching TV and following closely on the Taylor Behl case where the murderer used the same argument, and got away with it. Karr is now using a similar strategy to get away with as much as he can. I hope the investigators will make sure he does not succeed, at least on that.
3) Sorry? Noooo, he is not; he is enjoying the spotlight and think he won and is plotting a second volume of "Meine Kampf". Look at the body language with the chin high and the tight lips! Unlike Taylor Behl's murdered who would like to hide under the earth and was unsure on how he screwed it up and how it will work out, this one is convinced he can pull it out. I hope not, dude!

May he stay in a cell alone until he meets his last day!

[tomflint69]

Dear brownclint, the ad never meant to get erection for child abuse or anything like that. CBS news understands better about public concerns before placing any ad than us. Ever imagine, how much CBSnews could earn per click on that ad :)

[indyperson]

ok, how is this for a scenario,
he could be the biological father.. both lived in same general area.... similar physical features, same coloring.
Maybe is wanted to see his child at Christmas?
Maybe he wanted to hurt the family that took his child?
I know it's a twisted thought, but... would make for one heck of a twist. I bet Movie deals are in the talks.

[indyperson]

ok, how is this for a scenario,
he could be the biological father.. both lived in same general area.... similar physical features, same coloring.
Maybe is wanted to see his child at Christmas?
Maybe he wanted to hurt the family that took his child?
I know it's a twisted thought, but... would make for one heck of a twist. I bet Movie deals are in the talks.

[indyperson]

ok, how is this for a scenario,
he could be the biological father.. both lived in same general area.... similar physical features, same coloring.
Maybe is wanted to see his child at Christmas?
Maybe he wanted to hurt the family that took his child?
I know it's a twisted thought, but... would make for one heck of a twist. I bet Movie deals are in the talks.

[kno-1]

Though I cannot completely trust the filtering and sound bites of news outlets. I do not believe the confession of Karr as seen in the edited footage.
It is my belief that, though Karr is a pedophile and likely has left many victims thru his travels (both in child brothels and students). I have grave doubts as to the validity of his confession. From an armchair detectives POV, Karr's body language does not sync up with the story he tells. Look at his eyes. You can tell that when answering questions (no matter from what direction) Karr looks down, then up to the top right as he formulates his answer. This is an involuntary reflex indicating the person is accessing the creative aspect of his brain. Excessive blinking (even when many flash bulbs go off, he doesn't blink but casts his eyes downward) upon answering the questions along with focused and subdued demeanor are other tell tale signs of lies.
When specific questions concerning unreleased crime details are asked, Karr reacts with slightly widen eyes and quick rigidity following with a "no comment." IMO, this as nervousness. You can also see that he even doesn't look to the left and up to access data recall of his brain before deciding if said data should be conveyed. Another involuntary reflex.

[kno-1]

Another thought comes to mind as well.

I am glad he is in custody. If DNA doesn't match Karr in the Ramsey case, I believe that the police are carrying out a grave injustice by using a cold and popular case as a ruse to utilize a new law that is in place which allows the US to prosecute child abuse crimes across international borders.

[cjmorgan7]

I don't think Karr is guilty unless DNA proves otherwise. He's admitting to the crime for publicity reasons and to be able to claim insanity when he attends court for the pornography charge in California. He's plotted this over the years so when the time comes for his arrest and he gets apprehended for the California crimes. He will claim insane so he can get lessor time and not be sentenced for life in prison ro the California related crimes.

Connie Morgan
Dallas, Texas

[cjmorgan7]

I don't think Karr is guilty unless DNA proves otherwise. He's admitting to the crime for publicity reasons and to be able to claim insanity when he attends court for the pornography charge in California. He's plotted this over the years so when the time comes for his arrest and he gets apprehended for the California crimes. He will claim insane so he can get lessor time and not be sentenced for life in prison for the California crimes.

[patinflorida]

I also don't believe his confession. I believe he is an ill person who wanted to get back to the US and out of the grasp of the Thailand police. He is probably guilty of a crime there, or was contemplating committing one. I think he is physically ill as well as mentally ill. He just has that aura. I do believe he is a pedophile. I believe he wishes that he had committed the Jon Benet murder. His statements just don't quite fit the facts. Much of what he states has been information that was available to the public. Ultimately, I think he was just looking for a way back to the US. He assumes he will be cleared of the crime once he is back here.

[Ruby38]

This story sounds ridiculous, I can't believe the media is focusing on this story, which will surely turn out to be a hoax from a mentally ill person. To think that there are missing people or other subjects that would benefit from some media coverage and so much time is being wasted on this wack job.

[dougcl_79]

I still think the parents are the ones who did it, and were able somehow to get away with it. Why would you refuse a polygraph unless you had something to hide?

May Patsy Ramsey burn in hell

[kbmeador]

Personally, I think this man is mentally ill and truly believes he did it. Maybe he had an obsession with JonBenet that only recently came to light. But I see too many holes right now to fully believe that even if this man DID commit this horrendous act, that he did it alone. I still hold firm to the fact that Patsy Ramsey did this and I still believe that she did it in a jealous, angry rage, fed up with all the attention the child required, even though that said attention was the creation of Patsy herself. I think John knew AFTER THE FACT.. and by that, I mean after the discovery of the poor girls body. But the fact he never came forward with it makes him just as culpable. I feel sorry for their son. That boy did not ask, nor deserve, the mess that his parents left at his doorstep. I pray JonBenet has peace. And I pray that, whether those of us who believe Patsy did this or was involved, or not, I pray that Patsy gets what is deserved in the afterlife.

[opinionated2]

What school did he supposedly pick her up from? Wouldn't she be on Christmas break? The day after Christmas.....I would think she be home with her family like most kids??????

[gilderqueen]

Bwwwhaaahaaahaaa! He's the biological father?????? How far out do you want to go with a theory??? LOL
This guy is an over-the-top obsessive-compulsive looking to enjoy his 15 brief moments of fame. End of story.

[SuppaPP]

I also beleive that John is mentally sick.
He is just like a dreamer.

But he did not say that he drugged the girl neither kidnapped her from her shcool.

There must be some missunderstanding if someone told the media that he said so.

DNA will tell everything.

If teh DNA taken from John doesn't match with the DNA taken from JonBonet's body...why they will try to take him back to the US ???

[oriestes]

Karr's appearance made me think twice I was not convinced that he was the person that killed this innocient little girl. Karr looked catatonic as if he is on some kind of a drug to calm him down and control him.I believe he has some type of psychosis and has feelings of grandious where he really believes that he is the one that killed this little girl. There is a danger here where law enforcement is not acting with respect for a person who is possibly mentally.I believe Karr is in need of help. Karr is fairly good looking so it is easy to think that he will be a great teacher I can see school officials not to think anything is wrong with him teaching young children. When I first saw him in front of the camera's I knew that his movements were not normal movements they seemed slow and un natural almost "robot like". There are people who are able to function and appear to be normal but are mentally ill.

I feel that the parents have more clues about the murder everytime I saw them on tv they did not appear to be sad and upset after their daughter was murdered they were always trying to deny their involvement rather than to comply with the investigation. I hope that this man mr karr is given some help and if he is a true pedifile Then he needs never to be allowed to be with children.

[ldiane3]

Look at the press coverage this guy is getting. For what? possibly murdering a defenseless little girl? That shows how sick society itself is. This guy looks more demented then the murderer or a little girl. I do not think he did it. He is just looking for some sort of sick fame, and if you think about it - he is getting exactly what he wants.

LDiane3

[threehorses1]

I really think that cjmorgan7's post (12:09 AM : Aug 18, 2006) nailed it. He's done enough research that it's possible that he picked up on information that was supposedly not publicly available. How many screwups have their been on this case? I don't believe that the information is quite as unobtainable as they would have us believe. So he drops some info he got from one of his interviews or his research, pleads he is insane (hey - pretty convincing, no?).

Also there are no charges in Taiwan. He was arrested 'before he could do anything'.

Yes, he's sick - but I think it's a different sort of sick than being presented.

[lori2c]

Only the DNA is going to prove him innocent or guilty. The ex-wife has stated his interest in the case for many years and I am sure he did a lot of reading and research that has made him an "expert" on the information. If he is such an expert, then why is he blabbing so much incorrect information. His mannerisms, personally struck me as being homosexual. The way he walked around with the police officers was almost a "too cooperative" way. He has a very flat affect. It seemed to be an act. He was acting in a way that a possible murder suspect would act, but yet he was'nt. Very expressionless. No doubt he is guilty, but guilty of what? Guilty of being odd, weird, a pedafile, ***, a murderer? Who knows. I was so happy when I heard they made an arrest in this case, but now I really do not know. I know DNA results have to be in by this time, but the results and much more information are not being released at this time. Have you read where he now has admitted to killing Natalie Hollaway?

lori2c