What's Behind Teacher-Student Sex?
Ex-Husband Of Accused Teacher, Psychologist Offer Insight
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Play CBS Video Video Mind Of A Female Sex Offender Why are so many women being accused of having sex with their teenage students? Owen LaFave, whose ex-wife was involved in such a case, and clinical psychologist Julia Hislop discuss the issue.
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Debra Lafave waits for the start of a pretrial hearing in November 2004. (AP)
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Dr. Julia Hislop and Lafave's ex-husband, Owen Lafave, on The Early Show Monday. (CBS/The Early Show)
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Pamela Turner is led from court earlier this month. (AP)
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Why are women finding themselves in these types of relationships?
"One of the more common findings," Hislop explains, "is that they tend to have fairly severe sexual abuse histories themselves. That won't be the case with every woman, but (it's) a fairly common finding. They also tend to have mental health difficulties, not generally severe mental illnesses, but things along the lines of depression, anxiety, sometimes drug or alcohol problems or personality problems.
Asked about the insanity defense his ex-wife plans to use, Lafave told Chen, "With insanity, the burden of proof is on the defense. They have to prove that she didn't know what she was doing was wrong.
"However, in her particular case, she was being treated for depression, she was being treated for anxiety, as well as an eating disorder. So a lot of the characteristics that the doctor just described did fit her.
"(But), I mean, I think we've all heard the audiotapes and we can all draw our own conclusions. But it sounded like she knew what was she was doing was inappropriate and wrong."
Hislop says there are numerous signs parents can pick up on that a relationship of this sort might be developing.
"The dynamics," she points out, "can run the gamut between very violent assaults, just as with a male offender, and things that progressively cross boundaries. So, when teachers or other female grownups are progressively crossing boundaries, engaging in more and more inappropriate touch, more and more alone time with the children, are bringing up sexual material or personal disclosures into conversations with kids, those would be warning signs.
"Usually, when those warning signs are there, however, the person isn't a sex offender, but the progression can go in that direction from the mildly to more increasingly inappropriate interactions."
Lafave says the 15-year prison sentence Debra could get if convicted is "excessive," but some jail time is in order.
Hislop agrees, saying, "I don't know this case particularly. I have not been involved with the case. But the women who've done these things to children put them in high-risk situations and at high-risk for emotional difficulty, and certainly just as with males, some degree of punishment is probably indicated if guilt is found. Also, they tend to have a great deal of treatment needs. So, a combination of the two."
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