June 12, 2005
Lottery Scam Targets Elderly
Telephone Con Game Costs Victims Several Billion Dollars
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This telephone con game may be the most successful scam that law enforcement has ever encountered. (CBS/AP)
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"William Foley" talked with Steve Kroft in an interview in Montreal, where many of the scams originate. (CBS)
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So why did they keep sending in the money? "Because they believe that they have a substantial amount of money coming back to them," says Foley. "We told them that because they were over the age of 65, that half of the tax monies that were due to the IRS on the prize winning were going to be subsidized by the company giving them the prize."
How could Foley do this to his elderly victims?
"There is a perverse thrill to being able to do that to somebody. To be able to take somebody's hard-earned money," says Foley. "How does an athlete feel when they win a big event? How does a lawyer feel when they win a case in court? It was the same for us. When that check was sent and we received it, we won."
The victims are told to send their checks to an address in Montreal, which is nothing more than a mail drop. From there, they're picked up by unsuspecting messengers who deliver them to the con men. And then, the con men send them overseas to be cashed.
But the scam artists prefer wire transfers to Western Union, so that the money can be picked up anywhere in Canada, making surveillance by the police all but impossible. The scam is so effective, so pervasive, that even with Western Union's cooperation, Canadian law enforcement estimates that 67 percent of all the money coming into Western Union offices in Ottawa is from fraud.
"[There are] thousands of people who do what I did. Maybe even just in Montreal alone, you may find a couple of thousand people," says Foley.
Texas Attorney Gen. Greg Abbott has made it his top priority because of the large number of victims in his state. "I've never seen a problem as serious as this before," he says. "I've never seen anything where so many people have lost so much."
60 Minutes talked to others who were taken by the Canadian lottery scam – but not by Foley. Martha Ensmigner, 80, lives in Cincinnati. Her family had to take over her finances before she gave away her entire life's savings.
"I was going to get $2 million. He was very, very convincing. And I trusted ... I believed that he would," says Ensmigner. "My son said, ‘You were just trusting.'"
Doris Fletcher and her husband, who live in Delaware, borrowed more than $200,000 from finance companies and friends. "We have to pay them back. And we filed bankruptcy. And we were almost to lose our house," says Doris Fletcher. "I went to a hospital in February and stayed in there three months. I had a nervous breakdown."
Dalton Bissett and Willette Miller are both from Texas. Miller was warned by her banker not to send any money, but she did it anyway. "I'm mad now," she says. "And I'll do anything if I could save one person one dollar out of all this scam business."
What she decided to do was to lend her name and face to a statewide public service campaign to warn others about the Canadian lottery scam. It's called "Just Hang Up." But it's not that easy.
Abbott says it's very difficult to convince people that it's a scam: "Even after we provide them a detailed explanation of how it's a scam, they'll turn around and give more money to these scammers."
But the scammers don't rely exclusively on persuasion. If they feel a victim is slipping away, Abbott says, they may try intimidation. He played 60 Minutes a tape of one scammer bullying a female victim on the phone.
"That makes me so mad," says Abbott. "If we get our hands on that guy, we'll bring him to Texas justice."
But that's not so easy either. While Texas and other states have plenty of victims, they don't have any criminals. They all live and operate on the other side of the Canadian border, usually in big cities like Montreal.
And in this cellular age, it's increasingly difficult to catch them. For one thing, they're no longer tied to a fixed location. They use cell phones with stolen numbers and discard them every couple of days. The calls they make are all but impossible to trace.
Foley took Kroft to a local phone store in Montreal to show how quickly and cheaply a con artist could be in business. He was in the store no more than a few minutes. He bought a calling card, a pager, and a cell phone. "That's all you need," says Foley. "For under $100, you're in business."
It's like the cellular version of the boiler room.
"This is the mobile version," says Foley. "It's much safer. It's harder to get caught this way."
The calling cards are prepaid, with a fictitious name, and generate no phone records. The pagers provide an answering service for the toll-free call-back number. And the cell phones are replaced every couple of weeks.
"This is a billion-dollar industry. And so all types of organized crime are getting their hands into this. Because the money is there," says John Riverst, who along with Yves LeBlanc of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, say organized crime is involved mostly in laundering large cashier checks, through banks in the Middle East.
What do they mean by organized crime? "The bikers, talking about Italian mafia," says LeBlanc. "Israeli organized crime," adds Riverst.
That's quite a coalition. "And the money comes through clean in New York City," says Riverst.
Riverst and LeBlanc ended up catching Foley through good old-fashioned legwork. An informant told them Foley liked to hang out in strip clubs so they began running surveillance there.
Once he'd been identified, they followed him home and discovered the phone number he was using discarded in the garbage. Then they began taping his phone calls, including one with Giddings.
"I hate to listen to that," Foley says, of his conversation with Giddings. "That sickens me."
Kroft then told Foley of another victim, Ed Granton, who needed a hip replacement. Foley had taken all of his money. "That's terrible," says Foley. "When I think about these people, I just don't know how I could have done it."
"You have to forgive me if I'm not 100 percent convinced you're leveling with me," says Kroft.
"I understand. But you know, there's no point for me to be here," says Foley. "I'm still facing my time. This may air while I'm in prison. I'm exposing myself. I'm only wearing sunglasses here to hide who I am."
For Giddings, the second check for $70,000 was nearly all of her life savings, money that she had set aside for her grandchildren's college education. However, LeBlanc says the RCMP were listening to her conversations with Foley.
"We knew she was sending a $70,000 check," says LeBlanc. "We weren't about to let that go by. We stopped the check."
So Giddings' losses were limited to $10,000, but she still won't forgive William Foley, someone she's never even seen. Kroft showed her his photo.
"He looks bad enough," says Giddings. "But I could make him look worse."
"We're going to see him in a couple of days," says Kroft.
"Well, kick him in the shins for me," says Giddings.
Foley's reaction? "I'm surprised that all she wants to do to me is kick me in the shins," he says. "I deserve much worse, much worse."
But the scam is still going on. In fact, some victims are now getting calls from scam artists who claim they can recover all the money for a few thousand dollars in fees.
One even claimed to be working with 60 Minutes. So if you get one of those calls, just hang up.
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