Dec. 15, 2002
(CBS) LESLEY STAHL:Transcript Of Gore's 60 Minutes Interview
Former VP Tells Lesley Stahl He Won't Run In 2004
You know, you’ve been all over television, all over the newspapers for this last week. You’ve given back-to-back interviews. You’ve answered virtually every question except one (laughs) and that is, are you or are you not gonna run in 2004? Are you gonna run?
AL GORE:
Well, I’ve decided not to run. And I--
LESLEY STAHL:
You’ve decided not to run?
AL GORE:
I’ve decided that I will not be a candidate for president in 2004 ... And I found that I’ve come to closure on this. I don’t think it’s the right thing for me to be a candidate in 2004.
LESLEY STAHL:
Well, I think a lot of people are just gonna be bowled over. You’re not a candidate. You’ve been looking like a candidate. Tell us how you have arrived at what I think is gonna be a stunningly (laughs) surprising decision?
AL GORE:
Well, I’ve run for president twice, and there are many other exciting ways to serve. I intend to remain actively involved in politics. I want to help whoever the democratic party’s nominee is in 2004 to-- to win the election. I’m gonna explore a lot of other opportunities.
LESLEY STAHL:
The ambition to be the commander in chief, the ambition to sit in the Oval Office, that’s gone?
AL GORE:
Well, I personally have the energy and the drive and the ambition-- to make another campaign. But I don’t think it’s the right thing for me to do. I-- I think that a campaign that would be a rematch between myself and President Bush would inevitably involve a focus on the past that would in some measure distract from the focus on the future that I think all campaigns have to be about.
LESLEY STAHL:
You say you had the ambition. You still have it even you said. Still have the dream?
AL GORE:
Well, you know never say never. But I-- I-- I make this decision in the full knowledge and-- and awareness that-- if I don't run this time, which I'm not gonna run (CHUCKLES) in 2004, that-- that's probably the last opportunity I'll ever have to run for President. Don't know that for sure, but probably it is.
LESLEY STAHL:
You think you could beat the President?
AL GORE:
Look, I think I could.
LESLEY STAHL:
You think--
AL GORE:
But the truth is, Lesley, that anybody who tells you they know what's gonna happen (LAUGHS) two years from now.
LESLEY STAHL:
No but--
AL GORE:
And what happen is just unrealistic.
LESLEY STAHL:
I'm still trying to understand why you're not gonna run.
AL GORE:
The last campaign was an extremely difficult one. And while I have the energy and drive to go out there and do it again, I think that there are a lot of people within the Democratic Party who felt exhausted by that. Who felt like, okay, I don't wanna go through that again. And I'm frankly sensitive to that-- to that feeling.
LESLEY STAHL
A democratic, you believe, could beat President Bush.
AL GORE
I absolutely believe that. Think about what happened in 1991.when-- the first president Bush was just as high-- well, higher in the public opinion poll--
LESLEY STAHL:
But not sustained like this.
AL GORE:
Well, that-- that’s true. But-- nevertheless, he was at 91 percent or something. I felt then that-- the economy was bad and it could turn back-- toward democrats. It ultimately did and-- very few people thought that. I feel the same way now.
LESLEY STAHL:
Now you have democrats already out there. You have Kerry (PH) and Gephart (PH) and--
AL GORE:
Edwards and--
LESLEY STAHL:
--Edwards and--
AL GORE:
--Leiberman--
LESLEY STAHL:
--and wi--
AL GORE:
--will now run.
LESLEY STAHL:
So which of the democrats do you think has the best shot?
AL GORE:
I don’t know.
LESLEY STAHL:
So you don’t have a feeling of what-- do you have a feeling of what it will take, what a democrat has to look like, what he has to stand for, to beat President Bush?
AL GORE:
I think there has to be a-- an unrelenting focus on the economy--
LESLEY STAHL
And why, you think the econony is just gonna continue to spiral downward? Is that what you’re saying?
AL GORE
I think that the policies they’re commited to do not work. And I think that if they don’t change em, which I don’t think they’re likely to, that it’s gonna be apparent to people.
LESLEY STAHL:
So this is it? You were in the House-- you were in the House.
AL GORE:
Uh-huh (AFFIRM).
LESLEY STAHL:
You were in the Senate for two terms.
AL GORE:
In the House for 8 years, the Senate for 8 years and--
LESLEY STAHL:
Ran for President twice.
AL GORE:
-- Vice President for 8 years, yeah.
LESLEY STAHL:
Vice President of the United States for 8 years. And this is it.
AL GORE:
I had another 8 year plan in mind. (CHUCKLES) But it didn't work out.
LESLEY STAHL:
But are you surprised in a way that-- that yourself--
AL GORE:
Yes. Yeah.
LESLEY STAHL:
-- that you're doing this?
AL GORE:
Yeah. I've-- I've faced the decision on running for President twice before. And-- both times I have decided to-- (CHUCKLES) to jump in. And there was a big part of me that-sort of assumed that that's what I would do this time around.
LESLEY STAHL:
Now I've heard you say a couple of times, 'this time.' You said, 'I'm not gonna be a candidate this time.' What about 2008?
AL GORE:
Well, I've also said that I-- I make this decision in-- in the full awareness that it probably means that I will never have another opportunity to run for President.
Now I'm not-- I'm not-- planning on some-- some future race.
LESLEY STAHL:
So you're gonna grow your beard back?
AL GORE:
(LAUGHS) I don't have a-- I don't have a plan to do that. But don't-- don't rule it out.
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