Brendon Ayanbadejo: I'm not sure when it will happen, but as an ally all I can do is my part and I'm so honored to be with Esera and help people so that they don't have to be in the shoes that he was in, to live with depression and to have suicidal tendencies. So as an ally we're just going to do everything we can to make a safe, inclusive environment so people don't have to live with that type of pain and that type of burden.
Bob Schieffer: Well, Esera, what can you do? I mean do you think it's a good idea for people not to come out? Or how many people do you think there are in the NFL who are gay? Do you have any idea?
Esera Tuaolo: I don't, I know a few. But I don't, definitely, it's always a good thing to live in your truth and come out. What Jason Collins did, I'm hoping that it will open doors for athletes that are in the closet to come out in any of the four major sports. So yeah, it's always, from what -the education that I have now and from the support and learning about so many organizations out there, I'm with "You Can Play," it's one of those things where, what I know now, if I had the opportunity to go back into time and come out, I definitely would.
Bob Schieffer: And Brendon, do you think the NFL locker room is really ready for this?
Brendon Ayanbadejo: Yeah I think it's ready, but then again it's our jobs, even if they're not ready, it's our jobs to do what's right and to do what's best. We're fighting for so many things. We want athletes to be themselves and to realize their full potential. But also it trickles down to kids and affects kids with their self-esteem. It will cut down suicide rates in kids if NFL players support the LGBT movement. So, and then also legislatively, we don't have - the LGBT community does not have the rights of just heterosexual people. And that's discrimination in itself. So there's so many moving parts to this movement and so many ways we can make a difference in acceptance, in sports alone, that can change the whole demographic and can change things in our whole country and make us so much more of a positive nation just by supporting, just by NFL players or NBA players, NHL, MLB players coming out. So that's why it's so heroic, what Jason Collins did.
Bob Schieffer; Do you think this is really the last frontier for gay acceptance and equality?
Brendon Ayanbadejo: No, I still think we have a ways to go. The religious community, we respect relation and we want people to have their religion, and also not change religions, but we want people to be accepting of everybody. So I think the religious community and the sports community, between the two I think those are two of the last closets in America, two of the last places where people are accepted. So once we get people to realize that you're born gay and that gay people are disenfranchised and they don't have all the same rights and benefits as everyone else and yet they're no different than everybody else, we can get past this unfortunate incident that's going on in our country every day.
Bob Schieffer: Esera?
Esera Tuaolo: Brendon basically said it all. And that's, we definitely have, we've taken some baby steps forward and we still have a lot of work to do. The war started back in Stonewall and we're still in the middle of the battle. But we are definitely living in different times and where it's on the table for us to discuss and, you know, it's for me it's very encouraging to see what's happening today with the GLBT nation, you know, people like Martina Navratilova and Billie Jean King who have definitely paved the way for us, have definitely been an inspiration for myself. So we have a lot to work on, like Brendon said, you know, with religion and sports and the NFL and the four major sports, I think those are the two last closets that we need to tackle.
Bob Schieffer: Well I want to thank both of you for joining us this morning. And we'll be back in a moment with more voices on the role of gay athletes in professional sports. Stay with us.
Bob Schieffer: And we're back now with former Baltimore Ravens cornerback Dominique Foxworth, he is the President of the NFL Player Association. Every sports fan in Washington knows our next guest, Ted Leonsis who owns the Capitals, the Wizards and the Mystics. What do you do on your day off, man? Sports Illustrated Managing Editor is Chris Stone, with us this morning, and our friend Bill Rhoden of the New York Times. Gentlemen, you just heard these four athletes talk about all this and I'm going to call him by, we're all on first name basis, Ted as the owner of these teams, is this going to be easy? The news came out, it didn't cause, people didn't start marching in the streets or anything. There was a lot of attention but not really a lot of controversy -- will there be controversy and what will this be like now?
Ted Leonsis: Well, Jason played for the Washington Wizards and he called me a couple minutes before the story went live and I told him I was very proud of him. When you own a team you have a big social responsibility to your community and what he did individually was very courageous, but it also activated this level of discussion and to be the first male active player to come out was a big deal.
Bob Schieffer: Well, how will this be accepted in the locker room?
Ted Leonsis: Well so far I think its generational, it's kind of been a big shrug. I think the best comment by a player on our team was "terrific, you're my brother, you still can't hit a jump shot." I think at the end of the day, decisions will be made on basketball-related matters on Jason. And so it has nothing to do with what his sexual preference is -- in fact, written right into the CBA is a non-discriminatory clause. We can't discriminate. And so I think that this is just a natural part of the business and the way it develops. What I was surprised by - I'm in internet businesses, I'm in other media and entertainment businesses -- whether you're gay or not has nothing to do with whether you can do your job. This really was the first time that this discussion really has spilled over into professional sports and Jason's a really, really good player. I'm sure his career will continue.
Bob Schieffer: Dominique you head up the players association, is this like when Jackie Robinson came into baseball?
Dominique Foxworth: I think it's slightly different, because obviously there have been gay players in the NFL and gay players in all professional sports, there are likely gay players in the Hall of Fame. But the courage that Jason has shown is similar to Jackie Robinson, and I think our professional athletes are uniquely qualified -- they go through their entire life being scrutinized. They're uniquely qualified to step up and take on this type of pressure and take on this type of public role. We've seen it with Tommy Smith and John Carlos, Bill Russell, Jim Brown. I think this is the latest iteration of athletes taking on public issues and helping to push our society forward.