Political Hotsheet
November 16, 2009 8:18 AM

U.S., China Fuel Each Other's Bad Habits

(AP Photo/Elizabeth Dalziel)
(SHANGHAI, China) As President Obama makes his first trip to China as president, he faces some tough negotiations with the rising economic power of Asia.

The U.S. relationship with China is crucial to White House goals on some of its top priorities: de-nuclearizing Iran and North Korea, global climate change and reviving the economy. But, it is the economy that may be the hardest issue for Mr. Obama to deal with because China and the U.S. fuel each other's bad habits.

Of all the arcane terms for the issue -- currency manipulation, hard pegs, non-convertible currency or rebalancing -- what it really comes down to is a "mutually reinforcing drug addiction," said Mike Green of the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Green explains how it works: "We get cheap goods, they get great exports and economy growth, they get stuck with a lot of dollars, they don't want their currency to be convertible because that would mean they lose control of domestic, social and economic and political tools, so they recycle it back to the U.S., we get to keep borrowing more money, and so the cycle goes on," he said.

In other words, the U.S. buys Chinese goods. We pay them in U.S. dollars. They don't put the U.S. dollars back into their economy through their currency, the Yuan, because it is not convertible. Instead, they use those dollars to buy U.S. treasuries, our debt -- more than one trillion dollars worth, more than any other country. By financing our debt, the U.S. can spend more money on stimulus, wars, health care, and the debt rises, and China buys more and more of it.

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China's influence with the U.S. is rising as they have become more concerned about U.S. deficit spending and the decline of the value of the dollar -- after all, they do need to protect their investment.

But Green says that the U.S. isn't totally beholden to the Chinese mortgaging our debt.

"They have more influence than they've ever had before because of it, but you know there's this old saying: If owe you $10, I have a problem; if I owe you $100,000, you have a problem and it's the latter category," he said.

So what's the big deal besides the Chinese fueling our debt? Well, says Peter Navarro, author of "The Coming China Wars," the hard peg to the U.S. dollar means that China's ability to flood U.S. markets with cheap goods threatens U.S. jobs and our economic growth in the process.

"The biggest worry right now has to be the loss of our manufacturing base to china… The central fact is that there is no long term economic recovery in this country without a manufacturing base," he said.

Navarro explained that China doesn't buy U.S. debt and keep their currency pegged for any reason except their own gain.

"They don't do it to help us, they do it basically to enslave the American worker and provide jobs in china," he said.

So why doesn't the White House do more about it?

"I think problem in the White House is that they want china's money more to finance the U.S. budget deficits in the short term," said Navarro, who is a professor of business at the University of California – Irvine. "The best solution is for Barack Obama to take the currency issue head on, it really is the most important issue between the U.S. and China, because with the hard peg, it really prevents the United States from reducing its trade deficits with China and from reviving its manufacturing base."

Candidate Obama took a harder line on China than he's been able to as president. "It's very hard to tell your banker that he's wrong," he told an audience in Pennsylvania in April of 2008. "If we are running huge deficits and big national debts and we are borrowing money constantly from China, it gives us less leverage, it gives us leverage to talk about human rights."

Human rights is one issue that candidate Obama was right about, because as president, he's been unable to fully press the Chinese on the issue.

But in the end, human rights takes a back seat to the economy, said Navarro, and the stakes are high.

"It's critical that the Obama lay the foundation for long term economic prosperity by dealing with this trade issue with China, if he doesn't do this, then all of this stimulus is for naught, it will just leave us in heavy debt and the heavy debt with be with the Chinese," he said.

More from Robert Hendin traveling with President Obama in Asia:

President Obama, Can We Twitter?
Inside the Japanese White House
For Obama in Asia, Focus Will be Economy


Robert Hendin is a CBS News White House producer. You can read more of his posts in Hotsheet here.
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by RedWings_ninety_one November 16, 2009 1:29 PM EST
They fuel our need to spend money we don't have, and in turn we fuel their need to polute their air.
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by taryder November 16, 2009 12:44 PM EST
Yes, our economy is totally superficial. Every time our government spends more money that we don't actually have, we are more beholden to China, Japan, etc. Is it weird that China would be reading the fine print in our health care negotiations?? I would say THIS is a little scarry! Let us quit buying the cheap Chinese junk, and move forward with our own American made products. If our government won't move forward, let us boycot the Chinese products on our own. We CAN go without, if it means we wait for products that are made well by us. Let us create more jobs i n our country with made in America products. We used to make everything here, and most products were made well. We CAN refuse to buy the cheap products. We CAN buy less! We can refuse to buy t he cheap products that quit working ANYWAY within 6 months......Where do t hey go? The dump. What have we become? We are ALSO ruining our planet.

By the way, THIS is REALLY ABOUT our BIG AMERICAN BUSINESS buying cheaper and cheaper products to make BIGGER & BIGGER PROFITS. Well, let us STOP THAT now!
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by obamniac November 16, 2009 11:50 AM EST
Check out this funny post: http://barackoflove.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/oh-big-brother-where-art-thou/
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by Portage15 November 16, 2009 11:40 AM EST
A weak economy, weak dollar, and structural unemployment are symptoms, not the underlying problems, and can not be solved by stronger corporate earnings. Under current trade policies young and old are fighting over the same shrinking pie. We buy billions of dollars of Chinese goods each year, yet the huge container ships depart west coast docks empty. We buy 4 million Japanese vehicles, yet Japan's second largest economy only imports 10,000 from us. Special interest government policies heavily favor transfer payments and war expenditures, within an economy built on low paying service jobs, consumer credit, an unregulated banking industry, and inflated housing prices. And the high tech dream, the implied magic bullet that will propel us from the abyss ? U.S. corporations routinely import thousands of H-1B engineering and software professionals (many trained by in the U.S.) from the vast pools of technical talent in India and China where the newest R&D centers have been built. Meanwhile, despite having graduated at the top of their class from the finest universities politicians blindly cling to the unproven ideology of ?global free markets?, which in reality serve only multi-national corporations and are anything but free for millions of Americans.

What's suddenly different ? . . . The symptoms are undeniable, plain to see ? a hollow economy increasingly dependent on massive deficits, foreign energy sources, and an inflationary money supply. Indeed, fundamentals like these clearly explain the growing ranks of jobless Americans and predict our future far more accurately than the effects of a temporary recession. We can only hope American leaders soon realize that true superpower status will not be sustained by a superficial economy built on derivatives, strip malls, $10/hr jobs, and cheap imported goods.
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by cgillasp November 16, 2009 10:18 AM EST
The truth is scalar weather (scalar waves from russia) are fueling bad habits.
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