Coop's Corner
November 15, 2009 2:37 AM

Firing A Shot Across Obama's Bow

(AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)
The usual crowd of armchair patriots is having a collective fit over President Obama's decision to greet Japan's Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko with a bow.

A bow?

I kid thee not. This post by Donald Douglass at the aptly-named blog American Power was representative of the sort of apoplectic commentary triggered by the president's visit with the royal couple as he arrived at the Imperial Palace in Tokyo on Saturday.

"Obama's breach of protocol is of a piece with the substance of his foreign policy. He means to teach Americans to bow before monarchs and tyrants. He embodies the ideological multiculturalism that sets the United States on the same plane as other regimes based on tribal privilege and royal bloodlines. He gives expressive form to the idea that the United States now willingly prostrates itself before the rest of the world. He declares that the United States is a country like any other, only worse, because we have so much for which to apologize."

Don't let appearances throw you. Turns out that Douglass is an assistant professor of political science - one who also declares that he despises "the hard-left radical agenda and discourse" (which I gather includes Mr. Obama and his cohort of closet commies.) His class must be a delight. But Douglass's purple prose pales next to this snarky summation by John Steele Gordon at Commentary:

"President Obama goes abroad apologizing for the supposed sins of a country that defended and extended freedom around the world at a staggering cost in lives and treasure and then grovels before the man whose country has yet to apologize for the Rape of Nanking. As my mother used to say, “Pardon me while I throw up."

The Rape of Nanking? I thought World War 2 was long over, but OK. Memories die hard. But does that mean the next time Air Force One lands in Vietnam, the locals are going to bust our chops about My Lai, Agent Orange or the phony circumstances surrounding the Gulf of Tonkin incident that we used as a pretext to send in more troops?

Did Mr. Obama truly intend to send the subliminal message that yes, he is a multicultural wuss who likes to grovel before foreigners? Or was he instead trying to play the part of polite guest in a region of the world where this sort of formal protocol counts for extra. Anyway, if you blink while playing the video clip, you'll miss the infamous waist bend.

Of course, the source of the right's distemper has little to do with a supposed breach of diplomatic etiquette. As these and other critiques of the administration's foreign policy suggests, this crowd views Obama as the second coming of Neville Chamberlain and the decision to award the Nobel Peace Prize to the president only confirms their conviction that he's well on his way to selling out the nation.

You heard much of the same sort of commentary earlier in the week after an AP dispatch reported that the president was insisting on a timetable spelling out when the U.S. would transfer security responsibilities to the Afghanistan National Army and that he won't allow Gen. Stanley McChrystal - or any other military subordinate - to rush him into an open-ended commitment in Afghanistan.

After years of occupation in the Mideast, is it so irresponsible for the president to demand that his underlings first figure out the "end game" before he decides whether to escalate in Afghanistan? The folks who led the cheerleading when George Bush invaded Iraq don't agree. Then again, they refuse to acknowledge that the U.S. can pursue its foreign policy objectives other than with an M-16 and a smirk.

So in the meantime, let's get all wee-weed up over a bow.
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by thebob-bob November 17, 2009 2:33 PM EST
It seems that only the fRight-wing Press is making an issue out of nothing. They certainy are tiresome! Have their tiny minds exploded yet?
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by gmw7777 November 16, 2009 11:17 PM EST
Many of these comments miss the point entirely: an American does not bow to anyone except God. The founders of our nation clearly stated in the Constitution that no one could hold a title of royalty, etc., because we are a democratic republic. I remember the "I Love Lucy" show when Lucy and Ethel were practicing their curtsys to the Queen of England. I was angry: again, an American does not bow or curtsy to anyone! If Obama wants to bow for himself, he can (although I still believe it's wrong). But when he's representing the people of the United States, he is not to bow, period.
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by 50BMS13 November 17, 2009 1:04 AM EST
gmw7777
Great post! He represents the most powerful nation on earth that can be for good or bad. He doesn't need to demean the Office of the President of the United States of America. If he wants to please foreigners, he can DO SOMETHING GOOD! It is all in his power to do so.
by ToolMangler1 November 16, 2009 11:09 PM EST
These people should remember or learn that some of the 'deadliest' fighters on this planet would bow to their opponents before beginning to fight...
They were known as Samurai, Shogun, Ninja, Shaolin and other titles.
At this point in time even though the big mouths that know nothing don't realize it, as President of the United States of America Obama is the deadliest fighter on this planet.
He can bow to anybody he pleases. You people that have never been out of this country are so clueless when it comes to common decency and manners. You know absolutely nothing about the concept of 'Face'.
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by bcs2k November 16, 2009 4:15 PM EST
Always good to see people with the common sense and decency to show respect to others. Poor lil Republicans have run out of real issues and are trying to make something out of nothing. Would you like to see Obama step off Air Force One wearing a cowboy suit, holster and 10 gallon hat? Yee-ha!!!! Walk down the tarmac spin pistols and chewing tobacco? Hahahahahahahaha. See what happens when you wanna-be cowboys have got no power. What next, analyze the color of his TelePrompTer? Too funny.
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by 50BMS13 November 16, 2009 6:15 PM EST
bcs2k
LOL...that is a funny post.
by conservative_1_Chick November 16, 2009 3:32 PM EST
He is like a dog rolling onto his back so the others can sniff him & see his submission. Sorry but that is what I see when a leader bows to an equal. The equals do not bow. That is for the serfs & all the underlings. Maybe this is what he does as a visual aide to his appology speeches. lol lol I am soryy but the poor guy is a schmuck.
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by 50BMS13 November 16, 2009 6:13 PM EST
conservative_1_Chick
Good points. The President of the United States has to be held to a higher standard of Pride and dignity. Waiter bowing and apologizing for the USA and a past administration is not proper.
by ToolMangler1 November 16, 2009 11:01 PM EST
These people should remember or learn that some of the 'deadliest' fighters on this planet would bow to their opponents before beginning to fight...
They were known as Samurai, Shogun, Ninja, Shaolin and other titles.
At this point in time even though the big mouths that know nothing don't realize it, as President of the United States of America Obama is the deadliest fighter on this planet.
He can bow to anybody he pleases. You people that have never been out of this country are so clueless when it comes to common decency and manners. You know absolutely nothing about the concept of 'Face'.
by daffy64 November 16, 2009 2:21 PM EST
You know, some Americans never cease to amaze me.

You're a guest in someone else's country, and you make an attempt to be couteous and adopt some of their cultural tradition and that shows you're WEAK?

Uh no. It shows you're polite and courteous and humble. The signs of greatness.

If I go to someone's house and it's a tradition to take off my shoes, I don't bark "HEY I'M AMERICAN, I DON'T DO THAT" and stomp into the house in my boots.

And never forget the parable Christ taught about humbling yourself:

"When you go to a wedding, sit at the lowest part of the table, not the place of honor. That way, you won't be embarrassed if someone comes up and asks you to move down."

It was Jesus himself who washed the feet of his servants as an example of humility. You want to prove you're a great person? Lower yourself and let others declare that.

In Japan, it's tradition to bow to someone as a sign of respect. Much like we shake hands to show someone we respect them. Both are taken from old military traditions.

The silly narcissistic view that the US President is "Numero Uno" in the world is obnoxious, condescending, arrogant, and just plain annoying.

I have many American friends and they're nice people. But this type of "controversy" just reinforces the old sterotype of the obnoxious overbearing insecure Yankie dolt.
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by 50BMS13 November 16, 2009 6:20 PM EST
daffy64
Don't compare religion to politics. Jesus said "pay Caesars things to Caesar, God's things to God". And the bible refers to world powers and that on earth at all times there is ONE. We live at the time of the Anglo-American dual world power. A partnership that started with Britain and succeeding to The US. The leader is the most powerful man on earth. Get over yourself. You must be a jealous Arab? Go back to your mosque and pray to Allah to deliver you.
by 50BMS13 November 16, 2009 12:57 AM EST
Getting back to the topic, why won't anyone comment on the "BOW" that Obama did? Look at the picture and tell me if you think the President of The United States looks proper doing this?

Go to search box right top of page and type in (obama in japan) then click, then go to photos, then go to photo #13.

Liberals? Do you think this is appropriate? No one is commenting, they are all hiding. The picture literally makes me feel sick, no exageration. PLEASE OBAMA, SMILE, LOOK STRAIGHT IN THE EYES, GIVE A SLIGHT NOD, THEN A BONE BREAKING FIRM HANDSHAKE. Thank you. You are the most powerful man in the world. Act like it. We need you!
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by daffy64 November 16, 2009 2:10 PM EST
I'm a liberal. I think showing respect and humbling yourself to others is right. No matter who you are.

After all, Jesus washed the feet of his disciples in an act of humilty.

And I dare say, he was a more important and powerful man than your current, or any other President will ever live to be.

Of course, you are not a martial artist or Christian so you're puzzled at the concept.
by 50BMS13 November 16, 2009 6:34 PM EST
daffy64
I am indeed a Christian. I have given scriptural instruction to groups as large as 7,000. Humility is an awesome thing. The greatest. But you know where Obama could show humility is to Do good for foreigners and get something done for them. A small act of waiter bowing isn't enough anyways, it just looks foolish. How can you say he is humble? He jet sets on Airforce one, his self proclaimed "spiffy ride" more than any other president doing PR shows and fund raising. He apolgizes for the USA to make HIMSELF look good as if he is the worlds savior. Regardless of what you see or I see in the way Obama is, the world that hates us is NOT GOING TO CHANGE BASED ON WORDS AND BOWING AND APOLOGIZING. It will change when actions of the US change. They know Obama will be replaced eventually. THEY ARE WATCHING WHAT THIS COUNTRY DOES, NOT SAYS. Have a good day.
by 50BMS13 November 16, 2009 12:44 AM EST
us_1776
Your points on Bush Senior are accurate. I never defend him on my posts. Maybe you all think I do. He had opportunities to finish the job and he blew it. I lost my respect for him when he kept promising "NO NEW TAXES" and "READ MY LIPS". When he broke that promise he was a one term president. Bush Junior we'll call him, is the one I defend. Clinton allowed two Embassy bombings and their administration also ignored signs of upcoming terror. So in leaving the past now, I would say government failed us plain and simple. Both sides to different extents. The real debate is what to do now.
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by us_1776 November 16, 2009 1:57 AM EST
Yes, well I am a former Republican although I was always a fiscal conservative but social progressive. I left the party years ago because it had gone crazy and I blame Rove for a lot of that. He invited in so many extremists to the party that it drove centrists like myself out. And now the Republican party is totally schizophrenic. So there has to be a battle for the soul of this party and I hope the Rove extremists are driven out. Then we get back some 'sane' conservative party that is more centrist.

Now what to do. We have a severe problem in this country that has completely corrupted the entire political system both sides. And that is lobbying. We must, absolutely must, find a way to outlaw all lobbying. There is no longer any need for lobbying. Lobbying first came about as a way to inform lawmakers on issues during times of sparse and delayed communication. But in today's world of the Internet and realtime communication worldwide their is no need for lobbyists. They only corrupt the process. All lawmakers staffs have 24x7 access to every piece of information that they need to understand legislative issues.

As far as how we dig out of this crevasse, we need to stop the decimation of the middle-class by the big banks. We are ruining and disillusioning our most productive work force. Forget the Freddie Mac/subprime stuff. That was small potatoes in what really happened. The big banks were in fierce competition with one another and it was eat or be eaten. The banks somehow got the idea that if they funded big real estate developers they would have a lot of real estate upon which they could write a lot of lucrative mortgages. So the more real estate, the more mortgages. And mortgages was the name of the big game. All those initial payments are pure interest to the bank. A huge growth cash-flow. And so they funded more and more real estate development and to make sure that they could keep all this going they came up with all these volume incentive programs for brokers that almost guaranteed fraud. So even though they knew that a lot of the paper that they were writing was bad - they wrote it anyhow. Until all of the sudden they had funded so much real estate that it began to overwhelm demand and then prices started to fall and the more they fell the worse the mortgages looked and then sales began to falter and then this rippled through the economy and jobs began to disappear and then the bankers got the bright idea to bundle these worsening mortgages into investment bundles and put them into the stock market which was bought up by all kinds of institutional buyers such as state pension funds and others and it wasn't long before this whole house of cards began to implode with increasing speed. And in the process many millions of middle-class homeowning Americans got swept up into all this because they lost their job and began depleting their savings until finally they ended up in foreclosure. And not just new buyers, I'm talking about people who had owned their homes for many many years. And so what has happened is that the middle-class is being setback about 20 years in our country. So since the big banks played such a huge role in all this I do not think that it is fair at all that they should foreclose on anybody. There should be an across the board 2-year moratorium on foreclosures if the people can show that they were able to afford the home before this whole collapse happened. That way we give them enough time to find work and once again start making mortgage payments.

Jobs. We have to support small businesses because they employ the largest number of workers in the country. And right now small business has been decimated. This is the biggest problem.

And of course healthcare. I have several friends that have run out of COBRA and they are older and have pre-existing conditions of course and they are just going without insurance now because they were quoted thousands per month to obtain coverage. So this is something we just have to stop. We have to pass healthcare reform preferably with the public option so that we can hammer these insurers into reasonable rates at least for basic plans. And I have no desire to see private insurers driven completely out of the market and if I saw that happening I'd be one of the first to complain about it. We need a good private enterprise but we also need some safety net and some good competition to keep the greed under control.
by 50BMS13 November 16, 2009 3:21 AM EST
us_1776
Thank you for your post. You are quite knowledgeable. I agree with what you have said about the Republican Party. Whereas leadership is concerned there are problems. I definitely have always been a Conservative. Carter made me sick. Reagan was what we needed but he was quite old in his second term. Bush SR(won one for the gipper) was a dissapointment as I mentioned aforehand. Clinton I could not stand. BUT.....When the Republican party went head hunting for Clinton over Monica Lewinsky I was VERY upset with what the Republicans were doing. They became extremist. I didn't think they were fair to Clinton trying to impeach him. I started to turn sides towards the middle seeing Clintons and Democrats sides. I WAS HUGELY HOPING FOR AL GORE! Was I ever upset when he didn't win with all the fraud and hanging chads in Florida. To further anger me Bush's brother was governor there as well. Bush seemed to be mellow and balanced early in his administration and I quickly brushed aside the attacks against Clinton(by the way his sex life is his business not a matter of Congress I feel)and when 911 hit, I felt for Bush. The nation was one at that time. I guess that was nice compared to all the judicial inquiries and bi-partisanship we had recently experienced. So I came back hard for Bush feeling bad for Gore that he was robbed. And I do like al Gore anyways. The last 6 months of Bush's administration you may as well say we had no president. He was powerless. I still think he meant well. Mistakes made, sure. But Bush Jr has a good heart. Proud and obnoxious to other countries at times YES. I guess being real rich and powerful can get to the best of us.

Now Obama. It is time to just plain and simple move forward. We don't need to pull the Bush Administration back into things. Hey. Good and bad. Obama at the beginning of his Admin. apologized and went to Egypt and tryed to heal a lot of stuff. Good job. But that ws enough. He needs to get back to being proud and tough and make decisions. Where he is not arrogant as Bush was, he is the other way. Both are not good. So he is a good man. He needs to tone down the bowing and pro muslim rhetoric. If he does that and takes care of Iran and North Korea FIRMLY, then I could easily be a fan of his too. He is a good man.

As far as lobbyist go...you are DEAD ON RIGHT! Agree entirely.

As far as Healthcare goes, I haven't a clue. I don't post about stuff I don't know too much about. But I do read. Enjoyed the chat. Your right we need to find more middle ground. Goes for all of us. Have a good evening. And thanks for the dialogue and your input.
by 50BMS13 November 15, 2009 6:01 PM EST
The deep waiter's bow weakens the image of the President of the United States. Throw a white towel over his right arm and I'm ready to order my dinner and give him a tip for sitting me at a fine table. If you haven't seen the picture yet, type (obama in japan) in the search box top right of this page. click. then click on "photos" then go to picture#13. If you can honestly look at that picture and tell me I'm wrong I'll listen to you.
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by us_1776 November 15, 2009 7:29 PM EST
You right-wingers fuss over the most minuscule non-issues. You criticize every single detail of anything that Obama does. Your meaningless criticisms add absolutely nothing.
by luadda22 November 15, 2009 7:46 PM EST
us_1776, yep, just like you did Bush. The worm has turned and I'm lov'n it.
by us_1776 November 15, 2009 8:48 PM EST
luadda22 QUOTE: yep, just like you did Bush.

That's not true. Nobody went around painting Hitler mustaches on his picture or writing FAIL under his picture. It wasn't until much later when people began to uncover just so many things that were fraudulent, and secretive, and the raping of the public treasury, and the trashing of the constitution and the loss of our freedoms. Only then did people start to raise questions about Bush.
by luadda22 November 15, 2009 10:12 PM EST
us_1776, you mean no-one made a poster out of Bush to look like the joker, or James Carville said he wanted President Bush to fail, or a poll in Sept. 06 stated that 51 percent of Democrats and 34 percent of Independents didn't want President Bush to succeed...even though our nation was at war in Iraq and Afghanistan, or both Senator Robert Byrd and billionaire Democrat George Soros said Bush reminded them of Herman Goering, or during the 2004 presidential campaign, Al Gore used the term "brownshirts" to refer to Republican computer teams assigned to respond to criticism of Bush and the Iraq war, or Bush was depicted as Attila the Hun, serial killer Ted Bundy, Mussolini, Ahab, Hannibal Lecter, the Anti-Christ and Frankenstein's monster on the cover of the British edition of a book by New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, or David Letterman, or on Sep 15, 2006 Whoopi Goldberg discusses George Bushs Nazi links, or (shall I continue??). As far as "trashing the constitution", why is Obama still using the same procedures as Bush under the Patriot Act. As far as "raping the treasury" learn what the democrats (re. Barney Frank et al)and ACORN did to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to cause the sub-prime lending melt-down (ps, Bush and the Republicans tried 5 times to reel-in the practice). And finally I am a Conservative, so I'm really not happy with all the spending that Bush did either, but compaired to Obama, Bush was a piker.
by us_1776 November 15, 2009 10:47 PM EST
luadda22, notice what you are talking about is all around 2006 timeframe. That's 6 years after Bush was first elected. That's my point. By that time he had earned all that criticism. The difference with Obama is the attacks started immediately and they were far more vicious and hate-filled. And look at the difference. Bush inherits a massive surplus and a robust economy whereas Obama inherits a massive debt and the Great Recession. And yet you right-wingers start trying to blame all of the inherited problems on Obama. It's ridiculous.
by luadda22 November 15, 2009 11:31 PM EST
us_1776, Clinton did not leave President Bush with a surplus that Bush subsequently turned into a deficit. Yes, the deficit was almost eliminated in FY2000 (ending in September 2000 with a deficit of "only" $17.9 billion), but it never reached zero--let alone a positive surplus number. And Clinton's last budget proposal for FY2001, which ended in September 2001, generated a $133.29 billion deficit. The growing deficits started in the year of the last Clinton budget, not in the first year of the Bush administration. Go to the Treasury web site and look it up. We were also going into a recession when Bush took office, due to the dot.com bubble starting to collapse after March 2000. If you want me to go back further than 2004, I will, but if you really cared or wanted to know the truth about the names Bush was called you could look it up yourself.
by dagrandma November 15, 2009 4:52 PM EST
Are these the same people who pizzed their pants when Michelle Obama wore a sleeveless dress?
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by us_1776 November 15, 2009 5:21 PM EST
Yes, and the same ones that claim Obama causes baldness, and Obama made them fat, and Obama went too fast, or Obama went too slow, and Obama made them sneeze, and Obama made them pee, and Obama owns all mistakes, and Obama made them stupid, and Obama made them paranoid, and Obama made every problem they ever had.
by 50BMS13 November 15, 2009 6:04 PM EST
us_1776
Obama doesn't make us do anything. He hates America. He wants to make it something else it isn't. Try to have an intellectual conversation without name calling and childish rhetoric.
by us_1776 November 15, 2009 6:29 PM EST
50BMS13, ok genius, then why don't you tell me how the past 3 Republican adminstrations' needless spending of 9 TRILLION DOLLARS which massively exploded the national deficit, just how does that make America ANYTHING but bankrupt? Even the most far left Democrat has never proposed reckless spending to the level of the Republican party. And even the moderates on the right admit this.

No, there is nothing that Obama is doing or has proposed that does anything but bring back some sense of balance to America. The out-of-control freewheeling libertarian style of greed, greed, greed and fraud, fraud, fraud has nearly killed the American middle-class who were the victims of all this past reckless Republican spending and all the financial recklessness by the Republican-cronie financial schemes that resulted in a stunning financial collapse.
by AOCGUY November 15, 2009 6:41 PM EST
by 50BMS13 November 15, 2009 6:04 PM EST
us_1776
Obama doesn't make us do anything. He hates America. He wants to make it something else it isn't. Try to have an intellectual conversation without name calling and childish rhetoric.

You might try what you are preaching. I have not seen a single post by you that didn't resort to hate filled commentary towards our president and childish name calling. How about "...trying to have an intellectual conversation ..."
by _dano69_ November 15, 2009 8:22 PM EST
It's the national DEBT genius and exactly one year ago it was-$10,617,806,584,635.27 as of 11/12/09 it is $11,991,219,535,897.86
That would be an increase of $1,373,412,951,262.56 in one year.

the average per year it went up between 2000 and 2008 was $594,656,355,680.98
So in his first year, The One has more than doubled that.
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

Secondly, it's mainly CONGRESS that decides how much money to spend and for 6 years, that is Democrats.

And for all you liberals who whine about spending money on wars, we now spend MORE on "Health and Human Services" (aka WELFARE) than we do on defense.
http://www.federalbudget.com/
by us_1776 November 15, 2009 11:24 PM EST
dano69, do you not understand that this spending was the result of the fallout of the spectacular financial collapse? This was not due to some Democratic social program spending. This spending was necessary to prevent the country from falling into the abyss.
by _dano69_ November 16, 2009 7:14 AM EST
The economy collapsed because democrats, in their most failed welfare state plan to get votes from idiots ever, caused the economy to collapse by FORCING banks to lend to people they knew couldn't and wouldn't pay it back. The fact that it just "happened" to fail right when a socialist was running for president was certainly more than a coincidence considering how much money his ...ummm supporters...control. When someone has $100,000 in credit card debt, the "solution" is certainly not to double it. When unemployment doubles, the "solution" is not to raise taxes on the people who create jobs in order to pay for MORE welfare programs for people who produce NOTHING. Paving roads that don't need to be paved and putting up signs that say you suckers paid $100,000 for this stupid sign does NOTHING to "stimulate" anything but overpaid union hacks who already have jobs. When the largest government expense by far is something that does NOTHING but create more of the problem it's supposed to fix and the "solution" is to borrow money to make it even bigger is beyond reckless, it's criminal.
by AbleNovaCaine November 15, 2009 4:20 PM EST
Monarchy, dynastic rulership, subservient worship of authority.... Didn't you all get the memo? These are good, progressive, liberal values now.
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by jgg000015 November 15, 2009 1:18 PM EST
if bowing is so respectful in japan, did akihito and his wife bow back?
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by 50BMS13 November 15, 2009 1:19 PM EST
jgg000015
You probably know this but they did not bow back. Not even a slight bow. Just a confused smile.
by luadda22 November 15, 2009 5:52 PM EST
The Emperor in Japan does not bow. If Obama had a staff worth a crap, they would have informed him not to bow that low (if he still felt a need to) in paying repects (remember they are equals, because in Japan the Emperor is a Deity just like Obama thinks he is). They also should have told him to bow (if he insisted) then shake hands, doing both at the same time is a no-no. Also it is considered polite in Japan to smile when someone embarrasses themself.
by ianlou November 15, 2009 12:45 PM EST
What we have here is a failure to communicate.

What we need is another George W. Bush who can't communicate in his own language let alone anyone elses.

We need to go back to the good old days when the rest of the world was scared of the leader of the free world, we need another unpredictable knee-jerk reactionary dim-wit President.
We need another Republican.

Yeah, right.
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by 50BMS13 November 15, 2009 1:07 PM EST
ianlou
We need a Reagan!
by 50BMS13 November 15, 2009 12:40 PM EST
For those that haven't seen the "BOW" type in (obama in japan) top right page in search box. click, then click on "photos" then go to #13. Have your lunch first. Looks pretty bad.
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by us_1776 November 15, 2009 12:35 PM EST
OK, here you go ultra-right-wingnut hypocrites:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/ZZ72682359.jpg

That's your supreme lord Bush bowing to the Arab king.
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by us_1776 November 15, 2009 12:38 PM EST
And did you forget that the Bush family and bin-Laden family had been friends for many years? And that Bush helped hundreds from the bin-Laden family escape the US after 9/11.
by 50BMS13 November 15, 2009 12:43 PM EST
us_1776
Well hell, we need our oil! LOL
by abbe91 November 15, 2009 12:47 PM EST
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/27/eveningnews/main691413.shtml
by _dano69_ November 15, 2009 1:30 PM EST
Actually no, that's him bending over to get some sort of gold thing that rich Arabs seem to like to give to US Presidents (just like Obama got)

I'm still waiting for all that "free oil" we "occupied" the entire middle east for in our "war for oil".

PS: WWII was a real war for oil, one of the reasons Japan attacked us because we cut them off. Have they apologized for that yet?
by gomundo November 15, 2009 12:25 PM EST
Ojigi is the Japanese way of greeting, i.e. a simple bow from the waist. It is also common when thanking or apologizing. It is a sign of respect given by the person bowing to the person bowed before. A whole body language involving Ojigi has been developed.
****For example, if the person you are greeting has a higher social status, you should show honour and respect for them by bowing lower and longer.****

***Foreigners are not expected to bow***, but it is considered impolite not to return a bow or at least nod.

http://www.japan-101.com/culture/ojigi.htm
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by _dano69_ November 15, 2009 12:21 PM EST
If it's a "custom" why is he thee only one who did it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wng2gKbQVXo&feature=player_embedded
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by OregonJames November 15, 2009 12:21 PM EST
Those that are complaining loudest have no understanding of respect.
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by November 15, 2009 2:17 PM EST
I understand respect and Obama has no respect for the US. He has a light resume and shows it when he does things like this.
by _dano69_ November 15, 2009 12:18 PM EST
"I thought World War 2 was long over, but OK. Memories die hard."

So let's see if I have this straight, when it's a conservative demanding apologies for war crimes, that's ancient history but when liberals demand them for (a democrat) nuking Japan it's suddenly not.

When a conservative professor (I didn't know there was such a thing) has his views, he's mocked by this idiot but when the vast majority of liberal professors do things like inviting convicted terrorists to speak at publicly funded schools, that's just wonderful, right?
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/11/patrick_assails.html

I'm no expert but I think the whole "oh those Japanese people go around bowing to each other" thing is a pretty old stereotype. This guy is like a stupid American tourist making a fool of himself where ever he goes.
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by USSAmerikan November 15, 2009 10:13 PM EST
Well, my dear friends, I guess some of you haven't traveled enough and have not heard the deep distrust and hatred the Chinese have for their former tormentors, the Japanese. Seething hatred like I have not seen before or since... Trust me, Nanjing is only a sore spot, Fifteen Million Chinese were killed during the occupation and Japan has never formally apologized. Manchuria and the atrocities therein won't wash out any time soon in a nation where history is actually taught to their children. The Chinese don't suffer from our addiction to TV and its induced ADD... They will never forget!!!!
by NormanRogers November 15, 2009 12:03 PM EST
I think that your first mistake was to assume that anything you read at "American Power" comes as information from an honest broker. Thanks to the power of aggregators like memeorandum, some foolhardy bloggers have been elevated well above their paygrade and are now reaping the benefits of being allowed at the table of discussion. Mr. Douglas gets a few things right, but his evident bias is always showing, and his insistence on writing very little, but linking to anyone and everyone, is really why you have even heard of him. Prominent and thoughtful, capable and insightful, he is certainly not.
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