Coop's Corner
November 15, 2009 2:37 AM

Firing A Shot Across Obama's Bow

(AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)
The usual crowd of armchair patriots is having a collective fit over President Obama's decision to greet Japan's Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko with a bow.

A bow?

I kid thee not. This post by Donald Douglass at the aptly-named blog American Power was representative of the sort of apoplectic commentary triggered by the president's visit with the royal couple as he arrived at the Imperial Palace in Tokyo on Saturday.

"Obama's breach of protocol is of a piece with the substance of his foreign policy. He means to teach Americans to bow before monarchs and tyrants. He embodies the ideological multiculturalism that sets the United States on the same plane as other regimes based on tribal privilege and royal bloodlines. He gives expressive form to the idea that the United States now willingly prostrates itself before the rest of the world. He declares that the United States is a country like any other, only worse, because we have so much for which to apologize."

Don't let appearances throw you. Turns out that Douglass is an assistant professor of political science - one who also declares that he despises "the hard-left radical agenda and discourse" (which I gather includes Mr. Obama and his cohort of closet commies.) His class must be a delight. But Douglass's purple prose pales next to this snarky summation by John Steele Gordon at Commentary:

"President Obama goes abroad apologizing for the supposed sins of a country that defended and extended freedom around the world at a staggering cost in lives and treasure and then grovels before the man whose country has yet to apologize for the Rape of Nanking. As my mother used to say, “Pardon me while I throw up."

The Rape of Nanking? I thought World War 2 was long over, but OK. Memories die hard. But does that mean the next time Air Force One lands in Vietnam, the locals are going to bust our chops about My Lai, Agent Orange or the phony circumstances surrounding the Gulf of Tonkin incident that we used as a pretext to send in more troops?

Did Mr. Obama truly intend to send the subliminal message that yes, he is a multicultural wuss who likes to grovel before foreigners? Or was he instead trying to play the part of polite guest in a region of the world where this sort of formal protocol counts for extra. Anyway, if you blink while playing the video clip, you'll miss the infamous waist bend.

Of course, the source of the right's distemper has little to do with a supposed breach of diplomatic etiquette. As these and other critiques of the administration's foreign policy suggests, this crowd views Obama as the second coming of Neville Chamberlain and the decision to award the Nobel Peace Prize to the president only confirms their conviction that he's well on his way to selling out the nation.

You heard much of the same sort of commentary earlier in the week after an AP dispatch reported that the president was insisting on a timetable spelling out when the U.S. would transfer security responsibilities to the Afghanistan National Army and that he won't allow Gen. Stanley McChrystal - or any other military subordinate - to rush him into an open-ended commitment in Afghanistan.

After years of occupation in the Mideast, is it so irresponsible for the president to demand that his underlings first figure out the "end game" before he decides whether to escalate in Afghanistan? The folks who led the cheerleading when George Bush invaded Iraq don't agree. Then again, they refuse to acknowledge that the U.S. can pursue its foreign policy objectives other than with an M-16 and a smirk.

So in the meantime, let's get all wee-weed up over a bow.
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by thebob-bob November 17, 2009 2:33 PM EST
It seems that only the fRight-wing Press is making an issue out of nothing. They certainy are tiresome! Have their tiny minds exploded yet?
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by gmw7777 November 16, 2009 11:17 PM EST
Many of these comments miss the point entirely: an American does not bow to anyone except God. The founders of our nation clearly stated in the Constitution that no one could hold a title of royalty, etc., because we are a democratic republic. I remember the "I Love Lucy" show when Lucy and Ethel were practicing their curtsys to the Queen of England. I was angry: again, an American does not bow or curtsy to anyone! If Obama wants to bow for himself, he can (although I still believe it's wrong). But when he's representing the people of the United States, he is not to bow, period.
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by 50BMS13 November 17, 2009 1:04 AM EST
gmw7777
Great post! He represents the most powerful nation on earth that can be for good or bad. He doesn't need to demean the Office of the President of the United States of America. If he wants to please foreigners, he can DO SOMETHING GOOD! It is all in his power to do so.
by ToolMangler1 November 16, 2009 11:09 PM EST
These people should remember or learn that some of the 'deadliest' fighters on this planet would bow to their opponents before beginning to fight...
They were known as Samurai, Shogun, Ninja, Shaolin and other titles.
At this point in time even though the big mouths that know nothing don't realize it, as President of the United States of America Obama is the deadliest fighter on this planet.
He can bow to anybody he pleases. You people that have never been out of this country are so clueless when it comes to common decency and manners. You know absolutely nothing about the concept of 'Face'.
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by bcs2k November 16, 2009 4:15 PM EST
Always good to see people with the common sense and decency to show respect to others. Poor lil Republicans have run out of real issues and are trying to make something out of nothing. Would you like to see Obama step off Air Force One wearing a cowboy suit, holster and 10 gallon hat? Yee-ha!!!! Walk down the tarmac spin pistols and chewing tobacco? Hahahahahahahaha. See what happens when you wanna-be cowboys have got no power. What next, analyze the color of his TelePrompTer? Too funny.
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by 50BMS13 November 16, 2009 6:15 PM EST
bcs2k
LOL...that is a funny post.
by conservative_1_Chick November 16, 2009 3:32 PM EST
He is like a dog rolling onto his back so the others can sniff him & see his submission. Sorry but that is what I see when a leader bows to an equal. The equals do not bow. That is for the serfs & all the underlings. Maybe this is what he does as a visual aide to his appology speeches. lol lol I am soryy but the poor guy is a schmuck.
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by 50BMS13 November 16, 2009 6:13 PM EST
conservative_1_Chick
Good points. The President of the United States has to be held to a higher standard of Pride and dignity. Waiter bowing and apologizing for the USA and a past administration is not proper.
by ToolMangler1 November 16, 2009 11:01 PM EST
These people should remember or learn that some of the 'deadliest' fighters on this planet would bow to their opponents before beginning to fight...
They were known as Samurai, Shogun, Ninja, Shaolin and other titles.
At this point in time even though the big mouths that know nothing don't realize it, as President of the United States of America Obama is the deadliest fighter on this planet.
He can bow to anybody he pleases. You people that have never been out of this country are so clueless when it comes to common decency and manners. You know absolutely nothing about the concept of 'Face'.
by daffy64 November 16, 2009 2:21 PM EST
You know, some Americans never cease to amaze me.

You're a guest in someone else's country, and you make an attempt to be couteous and adopt some of their cultural tradition and that shows you're WEAK?

Uh no. It shows you're polite and courteous and humble. The signs of greatness.

If I go to someone's house and it's a tradition to take off my shoes, I don't bark "HEY I'M AMERICAN, I DON'T DO THAT" and stomp into the house in my boots.

And never forget the parable Christ taught about humbling yourself:

"When you go to a wedding, sit at the lowest part of the table, not the place of honor. That way, you won't be embarrassed if someone comes up and asks you to move down."

It was Jesus himself who washed the feet of his servants as an example of humility. You want to prove you're a great person? Lower yourself and let others declare that.

In Japan, it's tradition to bow to someone as a sign of respect. Much like we shake hands to show someone we respect them. Both are taken from old military traditions.

The silly narcissistic view that the US President is "Numero Uno" in the world is obnoxious, condescending, arrogant, and just plain annoying.

I have many American friends and they're nice people. But this type of "controversy" just reinforces the old sterotype of the obnoxious overbearing insecure Yankie dolt.
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by 50BMS13 November 16, 2009 6:20 PM EST
daffy64
Don't compare religion to politics. Jesus said "pay Caesars things to Caesar, God's things to God". And the bible refers to world powers and that on earth at all times there is ONE. We live at the time of the Anglo-American dual world power. A partnership that started with Britain and succeeding to The US. The leader is the most powerful man on earth. Get over yourself. You must be a jealous Arab? Go back to your mosque and pray to Allah to deliver you.
by 50BMS13 November 16, 2009 12:57 AM EST
Getting back to the topic, why won't anyone comment on the "BOW" that Obama did? Look at the picture and tell me if you think the President of The United States looks proper doing this?

Go to search box right top of page and type in (obama in japan) then click, then go to photos, then go to photo #13.

Liberals? Do you think this is appropriate? No one is commenting, they are all hiding. The picture literally makes me feel sick, no exageration. PLEASE OBAMA, SMILE, LOOK STRAIGHT IN THE EYES, GIVE A SLIGHT NOD, THEN A BONE BREAKING FIRM HANDSHAKE. Thank you. You are the most powerful man in the world. Act like it. We need you!
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by daffy64 November 16, 2009 2:10 PM EST
I'm a liberal. I think showing respect and humbling yourself to others is right. No matter who you are.

After all, Jesus washed the feet of his disciples in an act of humilty.

And I dare say, he was a more important and powerful man than your current, or any other President will ever live to be.

Of course, you are not a martial artist or Christian so you're puzzled at the concept.
by 50BMS13 November 16, 2009 6:34 PM EST
daffy64
I am indeed a Christian. I have given scriptural instruction to groups as large as 7,000. Humility is an awesome thing. The greatest. But you know where Obama could show humility is to Do good for foreigners and get something done for them. A small act of waiter bowing isn't enough anyways, it just looks foolish. How can you say he is humble? He jet sets on Airforce one, his self proclaimed "spiffy ride" more than any other president doing PR shows and fund raising. He apolgizes for the USA to make HIMSELF look good as if he is the worlds savior. Regardless of what you see or I see in the way Obama is, the world that hates us is NOT GOING TO CHANGE BASED ON WORDS AND BOWING AND APOLOGIZING. It will change when actions of the US change. They know Obama will be replaced eventually. THEY ARE WATCHING WHAT THIS COUNTRY DOES, NOT SAYS. Have a good day.
by 50BMS13 November 16, 2009 12:44 AM EST
us_1776
Your points on Bush Senior are accurate. I never defend him on my posts. Maybe you all think I do. He had opportunities to finish the job and he blew it. I lost my respect for him when he kept promising "NO NEW TAXES" and "READ MY LIPS". When he broke that promise he was a one term president. Bush Junior we'll call him, is the one I defend. Clinton allowed two Embassy bombings and their administration also ignored signs of upcoming terror. So in leaving the past now, I would say government failed us plain and simple. Both sides to different extents. The real debate is what to do now.
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by us_1776 November 16, 2009 1:57 AM EST
Yes, well I am a former Republican although I was always a fiscal conservative but social progressive. I left the party years ago because it had gone crazy and I blame Rove for a lot of that. He invited in so many extremists to the party that it drove centrists like myself out. And now the Republican party is totally schizophrenic. So there has to be a battle for the soul of this party and I hope the Rove extremists are driven out. Then we get back some 'sane' conservative party that is more centrist.

Now what to do. We have a severe problem in this country that has completely corrupted the entire political system both sides. And that is lobbying. We must, absolutely must, find a way to outlaw all lobbying. There is no longer any need for lobbying. Lobbying first came about as a way to inform lawmakers on issues during times of sparse and delayed communication. But in today's world of the Internet and realtime communication worldwide their is no need for lobbyists. They only corrupt the process. All lawmakers staffs have 24x7 access to every piece of information that they need to understand legislative issues.

As far as how we dig out of this crevasse, we need to stop the decimation of the middle-class by the big banks. We are ruining and disillusioning our most productive work force. Forget the Freddie Mac/subprime stuff. That was small potatoes in what really happened. The big banks were in fierce competition with one another and it was eat or be eaten. The banks somehow got the idea that if they funded big real estate developers they would have a lot of real estate upon which they could write a lot of lucrative mortgages. So the more real estate, the more mortgages. And mortgages was the name of the big game. All those initial payments are pure interest to the bank. A huge growth cash-flow. And so they funded more and more real estate development and to make sure that they could keep all this going they came up with all these volume incentive programs for brokers that almost guaranteed fraud. So even though they knew that a lot of the paper that they were writing was bad - they wrote it anyhow. Until all of the sudden they had funded so much real estate that it began to overwhelm demand and then prices started to fall and the more they fell the worse the mortgages looked and then sales began to falter and then this rippled through the economy and jobs began to disappear and then the bankers got the bright idea to bundle these worsening mortgages into investment bundles and put them into the stock market which was bought up by all kinds of institutional buyers such as state pension funds and others and it wasn't long before this whole house of cards began to implode with increasing speed. And in the process many millions of middle-class homeowning Americans got swept up into all this because they lost their job and began depleting their savings until finally they ended up in foreclosure. And not just new buyers, I'm talking about people who had owned their homes for many many years. And so what has happened is that the middle-class is being setback about 20 years in our country. So since the big banks played such a huge role in all this I do not think that it is fair at all that they should foreclose on anybody. There should be an across the board 2-year moratorium on foreclosures if the people can show that they were able to afford the home before this whole collapse happened. That way we give them enough time to find work and once again start making mortgage payments.

Jobs. We have to support small businesses because they employ the largest number of workers in the country. And right now small business has been decimated. This is the biggest problem.

And of course healthcare. I have several friends that have run out of COBRA and they are older and have pre-existing conditions of course and they are just going without insurance now because they were quoted thousands per month to obtain coverage. So this is something we just have to stop. We have to pass healthcare reform preferably with the public option so that we can hammer these insurers into reasonable rates at least for basic plans. And I have no desire to see private insurers driven completely out of the market and if I saw that happening I'd be one of the first to complain about it. We need a good private enterprise but we also need some safety net and some good competition to keep the greed under control.
by 50BMS13 November 16, 2009 3:21 AM EST
us_1776
Thank you for your post. You are quite knowledgeable. I agree with what you have said about the Republican Party. Whereas leadership is concerned there are problems. I definitely have always been a Conservative. Carter made me sick. Reagan was what we needed but he was quite old in his second term. Bush SR(won one for the gipper) was a dissapointment as I mentioned aforehand. Clinton I could not stand. BUT.....When the Republican party went head hunting for Clinton over Monica Lewinsky I was VERY upset with what the Republicans were doing. They became extremist. I didn't think they were fair to Clinton trying to impeach him. I started to turn sides towards the middle seeing Clintons and Democrats sides. I WAS HUGELY HOPING FOR AL GORE! Was I ever upset when he didn't win with all the fraud and hanging chads in Florida. To further anger me Bush's brother was governor there as well. Bush seemed to be mellow and balanced early in his administration and I quickly brushed aside the attacks against Clinton(by the way his sex life is his business not a matter of Congress I feel)and when 911 hit, I felt for Bush. The nation was one at that time. I guess that was nice compared to all the judicial inquiries and bi-partisanship we had recently experienced. So I came back hard for Bush feeling bad for Gore that he was robbed. And I do like al Gore anyways. The last 6 months of Bush's administration you may as well say we had no president. He was powerless. I still think he meant well. Mistakes made, sure. But Bush Jr has a good heart. Proud and obnoxious to other countries at times YES. I guess being real rich and powerful can get to the best of us.

Now Obama. It is time to just plain and simple move forward. We don't need to pull the Bush Administration back into things. Hey. Good and bad. Obama at the beginning of his Admin. apologized and went to Egypt and tryed to heal a lot of stuff. Good job. But that ws enough. He needs to get back to being proud and tough and make decisions. Where he is not arrogant as Bush was, he is the other way. Both are not good. So he is a good man. He needs to tone down the bowing and pro muslim rhetoric. If he does that and takes care of Iran and North Korea FIRMLY, then I could easily be a fan of his too. He is a good man.

As far as lobbyist go...you are DEAD ON RIGHT! Agree entirely.

As far as Healthcare goes, I haven't a clue. I don't post about stuff I don't know too much about. But I do read. Enjoyed the chat. Your right we need to find more middle ground. Goes for all of us. Have a good evening. And thanks for the dialogue and your input.
by 50BMS13 November 15, 2009 6:01 PM EST
The deep waiter's bow weakens the image of the President of the United States. Throw a white towel over his right arm and I'm ready to order my dinner and give him a tip for sitting me at a fine table. If you haven't seen the picture yet, type (obama in japan) in the search box top right of this page. click. then click on "photos" then go to picture#13. If you can honestly look at that picture and tell me I'm wrong I'll listen to you.
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by us_1776 November 15, 2009 7:29 PM EST
You right-wingers fuss over the most minuscule non-issues. You criticize every single detail of anything that Obama does. Your meaningless criticisms add absolutely nothing.
by luadda22 November 15, 2009 7:46 PM EST
us_1776, yep, just like you did Bush. The worm has turned and I'm lov'n it.
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by dagrandma November 15, 2009 4:52 PM EST
Are these the same people who pizzed their pants when Michelle Obama wore a sleeveless dress?
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by us_1776 November 15, 2009 5:21 PM EST
Yes, and the same ones that claim Obama causes baldness, and Obama made them fat, and Obama went too fast, or Obama went too slow, and Obama made them sneeze, and Obama made them pee, and Obama owns all mistakes, and Obama made them stupid, and Obama made them paranoid, and Obama made every problem they ever had.
by 50BMS13 November 15, 2009 6:04 PM EST
us_1776
Obama doesn't make us do anything. He hates America. He wants to make it something else it isn't. Try to have an intellectual conversation without name calling and childish rhetoric.
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