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November 10, 2009 3:58 PM

Lawmakers Feud Over Church's Role in Health Care Debate

(CBS/AP)
The inclusion of a restrictive abortion clause in the House health care bill, and the Catholic Church's involvement in its passage, has legislators and others debating the extent to which religious organizations can appropriately delve into politics.

Anti-abortion rights lawmakers successfully added an amendment from Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) into the health care bill Saturday that would restrict some health insurance plans from offering coverage for abortion. The amendment came up for a vote after Democrats faced pressure from the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), the official leadership body for the Roman Catholic Church in the United States.

Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.), co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, wrote an op-ed in Politico on Monday saying the IRS should pay closer attention to the Conference's involvement in efforts to influence legislation, given its tax-exempt status.

"The role the bishops played in the pushing the Stupak amendment, which unfairly restricts access for low-income women to insurance coverage for abortions, was more than mere advocacy," Woolsey wrote. "They seemed to dictate the finer points of the amendment, and managed to bully members of Congress to vote for added restrictions on a perfectly legal surgical procedure."

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According to the IRS, nonprofit organizations like the USCCB are prohibited from attempting to "influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities" and from all campaign activities.

Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.), who is Catholic, took to his Twitter account today to defend the USCCB, the Hill reports.

"The nerve of some citizens to petition their government," he wrote. "In Woolsey-land, free speech is cause for retribution."

"Apparently, exercising your right to petition your government is fine except when your point of view is different than Ms. Woolsey's," McHenry spokesman Brock McCleary told the Hill. "Then it's grounds for retribution by your government."

The influence the USCCB showed in the debate was considerable, the Wall Street Journal reports, calling the group "a major political force with the potential to upend a key piece of President Barack Obama's agenda."

The Journal reports that the USCCB swayed Congress with "behind-the-scenes lobbying, coupled with a grassroots mobilization of Catholic churches across the country." Along with conducting private meetings with lawmakers like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), the group circulated to churches a prayer supporting health care reform that included the phrase, "We will raise our voices to protect the unborn."

Cardinal Francis George of Chicago, president of the USCCB, said in a statement issued late Monday that the group will "will remain vigilant ... to assure that these essential provisions are maintained and included in the final legislation," according to the Catholic News Service.

He added that the Catholic Church is concerned about how health reform "affects the poor and vulnerable, and those at the beginning and end of life."

John J. Pitney Jr., a government professor at Claremont McKenna College, took to the National Review Online to compare the backlash against the Church's current interference to the backlash it faced when it petitioned to end slavery."

Other groups saw some hypocrisy in the Church's message.

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"What we saw over the weekend was an act of unparalleled arrogance on the part of church officials," Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, told NPR. "Basically, they were claiming they would kill health care for the sick and the poor if the Democrats didn't give them the votes to impose religious doctrine into law."

A reader of Andrew Sullivan's Daily Dish blog objects to the logic the USCCB gave in its opposition to Democrats' original abortion compromise in the health care bill. Under that plan, any insurance plans that covered abortion procedures would have to use money from privately-paid premiums -- not federal funds --to pay for the procedure.

"The Catholic Bishops rejected the segregation plan as an accounting gimmick," the reader says. "This is the same method that is used when tax dollars go to parochial schools, many of which are Catholic. Tax money can buy pencils and desks, but not Bibles... I wonder if the Catholic Bishops even considered this point when slamming the abortion-segregation device as an accounting gimmick."
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by formrusmcsgt November 11, 2009 6:46 AM EST
Religion has no role in health care, period.

We do not live in a theocracy.
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by DoubleHappiness88 November 10, 2009 11:26 PM EST
"The Bible and the Church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way of women's emancipation." --Elizabeth Cady Stanton

"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved - the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!" --John Adams, 2nd US President

"The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries."
-- James Madison, 4th Us President

The clergy, by getting themselves established by law and engrafted into the machine of government, have been a very formidable engine against the civil and religious rights of man.-- Thomas Jefferson

"The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy." --George Washington

RELIGION POISONS EVERYTHING!
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by us_1776 November 10, 2009 10:58 PM EST
from another poster in another thread:

40 years ago, non-Catholic Taiwan had 30 million people.
40 years ago, Catholic Philippines had 30 million people.

Today: Taiwan has 30 million people. The Philippines has 100 million people.

What part of 'you are fvcked' does the Catholic Church not understand? (regarding the filipinos). The Philippines could barely feed 30 million people, 40 years ago.

I think the Catholic stand against abortion is killing the already born. It kills them slowly, painfully, and in the worst possible torture you could concoct against another human being: it kills them by starving them to death. If you've ever seen someone starving to death (I have) you'll know what I mean. I would kill a trillion fetuses the size of a kidney bean (3 months in the womb) to prevent my seeing one more child starving to death. But the Catholic Church thinks differently.
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by frank1560 November 10, 2009 10:45 PM EST
The Catholic Church invented health care back in the Middle Ages when monasteries, convents and churches opened their doors to take care of victims of the plague and other diseases.Legislating morality by telling people they have to support abortion with federal tax dollars is just plain wrong. So any medical procedure that terminates the life of an unborn child is okay? A woman suffers a miscarriage and we morn the loss of her child. A woman has an abortion and we say, "That's okay, it really wasn't a human being anyway." I don't think so. It seems that every time that someone stands up for what is right they are labeled as dangerous fanatics who commit politically incorrect acts and have to be punished. Grow up! Life is to precious to have someone purposely terminate it before birth.
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by DoubleHappiness88 November 10, 2009 11:41 PM EST
What religion is speaks so loudly; we cannot hear what religion claims to be.
by us_1776 November 10, 2009 9:38 PM EST
The Catholic Church needs to stop trying to interfere in a woman's right to choose.

And if it is so interested in preserving 'life' then it should work to stop all wars around the world. In the past hundred years war has claimed hundreds of millions of lives.

And if it is so interested in preserving 'life' then it should be working 24x7 to end poverty and malaria. Malaria kills tens of millions of people every single year in a slow agonizing death.

And before it judges anyone else, it needs to clean its own house of all the child-molesters and deviants that it hides
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by retm-w November 10, 2009 6:26 PM EST
Let's keep all church and state seperate. If they are church leaders then they should keep their politics to themselves, not on the national media or if they want to lobby then let them pay taxes.
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by Ms_enza November 10, 2009 6:29 PM EST
Screwdat! Let's tax the bejesus outta them!
by Ms_enza November 10, 2009 6:31 PM EST
Screwdat! Let's tax the bejesus outta them!

If you can't eat their food, drink their whiskey, take their money and their women AND STILL vote against 'em, Texas politics ain't for you -- Molly Ivins (bye love, miss ya)
by dmwj2 November 10, 2009 5:58 PM EST
All churches with more than 100 members should have to pay taxes... it is nothing more than big business!
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by babooph November 10, 2009 5:39 PM EST
Churches have no old experience with health care[unless excorsism...],but they do have for putting people to death-let them handle executions ,where their experience is...
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