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June 24, 2009 5:33 PM

Will Congress Read Bills Before Voting?

(CBS)
Last month, when Republicans tried to stall energy legislation with hundreds of amendments, Democrats hired a speed reader to get through them all. Now, with Democratic leadership barreling through its hefty agenda this summer, it looks as if the speed reader's services may be needed once more.

Various grassroots organizations are blasting Congress for not taking the time to properly consider the energy bill or health care reform -- two very significant pieces of legislation.

Let Freedom Ring, a non-profit, grassroots organization that supports a conservative agenda, announced an initiative today urging members of Congress to sign a pledge to read and give citizens the opportunity to read any health care reform legislation before voting on it.

"For something as significant as health care reform, which influences 16 percent to 17 percent of GDP, I think it is important for legislators to know what they're voting on, and not have lobbyists and staff members be the only ones who know what's in there," said Colin Hanna, Let Freedom Ring president.

The pledge was distributed to members of Congress on Tuesday, and Hanna has so far received signatures from Senators James Inhofe (R-Okla.) and Jim DeMint (R-S.C.). Certainly, Hanna said, it would be in the members' best interests to sign it.

"I can assure you, legislators will be held accountable if there are parts in there their constituents find objectionable," he said.

Meanwhile, the Sunlight Foundation, a non-profit with the goal of increasing government transparency, is raising similar concerns about the energy bill that the House of Representatives is slated to vote on Friday.

With a full House vote just days away, the authors of the deal are still negotiating the details, the New York Times has reported. In a measure as complex as the energy bill -- which consists of around 1,000 pages -- the details can make a big difference.

"The fastest speed-readers and the most intelligent minds can't make informed decisions with that much time. How can Congress?" Sunlight Foundation Engagement Director Jake Brewer said today in a statement. "The problem here is the bill wasn't developed in the open in a committee, so no one -- including those members of Congress not on the Energy Committee -- knows how this latest version was created."

The foundation points out that while the bill, formally called the American Clean Energy and Security Act, was 946 pages long last week, it has ballooned to 1,201 pages in recent days with little explanation for how or why. The group is supporting a bill introduced last week that would require the House to post all non-emergency legislation online 72 hours before debate begins.

Hanna said Congress could benefit by keeping legislation simpler.

"Legislation has become so complex, you can really make the arugment the system the framers devised is broken," he said. "Most bills are voted upon without those voting understanding much of what's in it."

That's when members are forced to resort to speed readers. "It makes a mockery of the process," Hanna said.
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by FaithfulinPrayer September 3, 2009 12:15 PM EDT
I?ve just completed reading the bill (h.r.3200) and detailing what it actually says at http://www.FaithfulinPrayer.wordpress.com. On the sidebar, you will see under Pages, one that says ?Healthcare Bill Index?. There you can see what section you want to read and click on the link that takes you to that particular article. It took 6 weeks and 33 articles to cover the whole bill.
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by clheadrick July 1, 2009 12:02 AM EDT
I have read all 74 comments... we must stop talking and realize that neither party is there to legislate on our behalf... we need a new voice, a new party where our elected representatives sign a genuine "Contract with America" not the joke the republican idiots tried to pull when they took the majority. If elected the new party representative may ONLY SERVE for 1 term in the house, 1 term in the senate and 1 term as president(note the lack of CAPS, I am disgusted). We cannot allow them to become entrenched, the temptation is simply to great! In the information age there is no reason for an elected official to even come to Washington... That concentration of power is to easily corrupted by lobbyist. Make them stay home and LISTEN to their constituents, not the unions and corporations concerned only with what they can put in their pockets. All of this has to apply to the new party at the state and local levels too. NO CAREER POLITICIANS EVER! One term and move back into private industry for at least the length of the term served.

If you are intellectually honest with yourself you must admit that neither party represents the country we grew up in (I'm 45). Our government is out of control, and we lack the courage and fortitude to take the power back... Step up, speak out and send all of these criminals home!
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by daisyjingles June 28, 2009 6:04 PM EDT
It is called voting for your representative. If your representative does not read a bill before voting on it, vote for someone else next time.
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by vuenbelvue June 28, 2009 8:25 AM EDT
Why doesn't someone throw out in this learned discussion facts of the bill as they have seen it or read it. Breakdown good points and bad points. I read "U S News and World Report's" article, Saturday, June 27, 2009 on CBS News Blog on How the Global Warming bill will affect your wallet. I actually read it twice and found it difficult to understand at the least. My take was that it was similiar to JOESPH HELLERS book "Catch 22". It deals in presumptions and made up senerios of "carbon footprints' but the reporters pointed out how corporations and businesses will be able to also mislead applications to change the mission of their companies to take advantage of the tax credits. It is almost like a story from Lewis Carroll, and the originators were all puffing on the mushroom. Why do Americans have to finance the over-population problems and corruptions of the world? This bill makes us take the hit because the rest of the third world will never stand up to the plate. I say "screw that" and lets all just go down together.
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by Republicrats4WallStreet June 27, 2009 4:56 PM EDT
Why does only health care deserve actually reading the bill before voting on it? EVERY issue, big and small should be handled with professionalism, which in this case means reading the text before voting. It's possible that some in Congress are illiterate,but surely someone could read the bills aloud to the assembly before the vote. Perhaps passing a test on basic understanding of the meaning and implications of every bill should be implemented. At any rate, anyone reading this who continues to vote for the incumbents in their state, has no right to complain. The true problem is the voter who doesn't think before electing and reelecting these corrupt, lazy imbeciles.
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by scottyusa June 27, 2009 7:19 AM EDT
Signing a Bill without reading it and knowing what is in it is malpractice and the legislators that do it should be fired. Their signatures are not worth anything except for bean counting. I am far from pleased with this congress. Instead of protecting us from Obama's lunatic policies they are coming up with their own that are just as nuts.
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by stn_sage June 27, 2009 1:08 AM EDT
by stn_sage June 24, 2009 5:56 PM PDT
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by tyrsfury June 25, 2009 6:42 AM PDT
Now? They've been in control of Congress for almost 3 years. Gimme a break 'now'....
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by ur_u_nuts June 25, 2009 7:36 AM PDT
What a dim bulb you are there was no whining from Bush like the chicken in charge in the WH today that everything needs to be passed yesterday, don't read it just sign off on it. Whatta' dolt!
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by nottellin1 June 26, 2009 7:04 PM PDT
I guess you didn't notice that the only two signatures on the bpledge thus far are Republicans.
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First, ' Now' as in control of the White House, too! That, WANTS to get something done on this! Bush just got out, remember?! The Dems in Congress couldn't make GB do much of anything, could they?!

Second, you better think again! Bush & Co. were the ones that perfected the 'bum's rush'! Rush to WAR!
Rush to No Child Left Behind! Rush to sign the Energy Bill! Rush to stay in Iraq! Rush to bailout! On and on...

Third, yeah, well--it's easy for those two to 'take this pledge' because they're from HIGHLY conservative states, many citizens in these states are content to be lead into oblivion! When things get worse there,
they won't be! So, their agreement is political in nature and not philosophical or ethical. Big diff, friend!
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by kansas1946 June 27, 2009 12:05 AM EDT
Only one congressman read the Patriot Act, and it shows. Congress should pass nothing that they have not read every page of. If they think it is too much work, then go home. I am getting a little tired of hearing about what a hard job it is.
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by ceceri1 June 26, 2009 5:54 PM EDT
Are you really that partisian and arrogent that you don't believe the American people have the right to know what is in a bill? We the people are in charge!!! We have a right to know what is in these bills. What about transparency? It is our right as American citizens to have acess to these bills. This is what makes us a democracy not a socialist society. Even Obama talked about transparency why can't you?
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by specialty8 June 26, 2009 4:57 PM EDT
Lets hope they do , we have seen the results of the stimulis Obama slamed through,I have my doubts he even read it. Now they are playing the same games with our health care.
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by zonkzilla June 26, 2009 4:45 PM EDT
I went to a plastic surgeon years ago and had a look of total permanent shock and suprise put on my face that way if Congress ever read legislation before voting on it or quit taking bribes, my expression would not change.
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by jt92202 June 26, 2009 4:40 PM EDT
One thing I see here is this is not the "D's" against the "R's" and I really like that, it's time we come together on these issues and tell Washington and our State governments we are tired of the status quo! That's what many thought they were saying when the GOP got kicked to the curb, now it's time to do the same to the Dem's and vote in the proper people to do the job! Don't care if they have a D or a R or a I or a G(reen) behind their names just do the job and do it for the people not for their pocketbooks or their friends pocketbooks!!

DO YOUR JOB AND READ THE BILLS THAT ARE PLACED ON YOUR DESK TO VOTE ON, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WERE HIRED FOR!!!!!!!!!! THEN YOU CAN KEEP YOUR JOB!!!!!
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by kennyrodgers June 26, 2009 3:31 PM EDT
Would some intelligent person tell me precisely how anyone could read and have time to comprehend a bill in 5 days when the bill is probably around 1,000 pages in legalese? Ain't happenin' my friends. We need a longer time frame.
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by cujat June 26, 2009 1:13 PM EDT
This rush to push through massive bills without reading them or explaining them to the public is very scary. We dont even know where this money is going after its collected by our ever expanding government yet we are being told we must do this or face dire consequences. Fear seems to be the tactic of choice which I remember seemed to bother people about our last administration...where is the outrage?
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by saturn05 June 26, 2009 11:36 AM EDT
How can they vote on something when they know nothing about it. I sometimes just hate politicians. Not a wonder whyour country is in such a mess.
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by amigabill June 26, 2009 11:26 AM EDT
I've mentioned this to my congresscritters a few times. Suggested mandating reasonable time to read and understand a bill before voting, forbidding last-minute changes just before the vote (such as something like no one knows where the RAT Board text in a recent bill came from just before vote), and also mandating a text edit tracking system so they will never again not know who put something there or when. It would also IMHO help by saying that when it's time to vote, we're going to vote on revision 873, so get really familiar with that revision of the bill text. Any potential 874 or later revisions would be void by definition of the vote being for 873. I think it's ludicrous that even those who have put in the effort to read and understand the bill don't know if what's on the table during the vote is the same text they have poured through or not.
I also believe there should be no such thing as a "must-pass" bill. That simply should not exist.
And I also also believe that off-topic riders or earmarks should be forbidden. If a topic cannot survive into law on its own, maybe it just should not be. Dont' go sticking RIAA sponsored stuff into war spending bills and other such tomfoolery.
And the people should be able to have access to what their laws and bills say. None of this international copyright is too secret for anyone to see what it is crap.
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by ralpherus June 26, 2009 10:07 AM EDT
I swear to GOD- anyone in congress who votes on a bill they did not read needs to be hanged. Brutally apprehended and smacked until bloody, rolled in salt then hoisted by a noose around their neck and hanged until fully dehydrated. God damned stupid vermin- if you want a job, and spend millions of dollars to get it, DO IT. Stop being parasitical pieces of excrement and DO YOUR JOB- which, you probably are too stupid to understand, is PROTECTING OUR FREEDOM< NOT ATTACKING IT.
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by Aldymac June 26, 2009 8:28 AM EDT
Voter remorse from those who voted democrat is gaining speed. As for those who want to see the GOP done away with, then you will see the will of the people vanish as well. Hitler did away with all opposition in one way or another, he was a national socialist, Obama is a national socialist, take your pick, neither one of them had the will of the people in their agenda. One destroyed his country in one way the other has an agenda to destroy this country in another way.
"The ignorance of the people", is how corrupt polititions live off the "fat of the land", if they don't know what is in what they are voting for they feel like they aren't responsible for what happens, as long as it doesn't bother their conscience.
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by michaelm07 June 26, 2009 7:38 AM EDT
I cannot believe the American voters from either side of the aisle tolerate Congress voting on anything not read and or debated. And this coming from Mr Transparent President Obama - yeah, it's transparent that he doesn't care what anyone thinks. As a Repesentative Republic (the U.S. is not a Democracy per se, as many people think), we vote for our representatives to "represent" us. We elect them to be our eyes, ears and votes in the congress. We entrust them to do it for us. How many of you think they are actually doing that. They clearly do not fear the electorate and just as Atlas Shrugged was prophetic on one end of the literary scale, "Idiocracy" (a very ridiculous film) is prophetic on the other end of the spectrum. The people got exactly what they voted for, how many regret their votes - be careful what you wish for.
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by WesleyMouch June 26, 2009 7:13 AM EDT
"Let Freedom Ring has no authority or right to demand that they be allowed to read ANY bill or piece of legislation before it is signed. They cannot demand that they and the public have a right to read these bills first. Get real!"

Ok, let me explain the concept of a "representative". The idea is that the "representative" "represents" the interests of his or her constituents. Are you with me so far? Am I moving too fast for you?

Therefore, we, the citizens of the United States, expect that our representatives actually read and understand the legislation they are voting on. LetFreedomRing absolutely has the right to read and review the legislation Congress votes on, just like any other citizen or group of citizens. Why don't you get real?
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