• Home
  • Blogs
  • Crimesider
Crimesider
June 17, 2009 3:40 PM

Breaking: Alleged Kitty Killer's Father Speaks Out

Posted by Edecio Martinez
Video Courtesy Of Affiliate CBS4 Miami

MIAMI (CBS/AP) The father and stepmother of the teenager accused of killing more than a dozen cats in South Florida spoke today as the couple walked outside the courthouse.

CBS4 Miami had the cameras rolling while Tyler Hayes Weinman’s father told television reporters that he was confident his son wasn't involved in the cat deaths.

“I'm absolutely sure that he is innocent,” Doug Weinman said. “Because I've raised a son for 18 years and I know who he is.”

Police said they arrested Weinman after tracking the teenager for some time. He was taken to the police station for an interview on his prom night and his house was placed under surveillance. But on Wednesday, his attorney Michael Walsh was critical of the investigation, saying that his client's arrest was based on circumstantial evidence.

According to CBS4 Miami, an assortment of knives and cutting instruments were found hidden in the 18-year-old’s room. Prosecutors are still waiting to learn if they can match DNA from a dead cat to possible blood found on the knives in Weinman's bedroom.

Those knives could very well be the key to the kitty killer case.

More At CBS4 Miami

Tags:
Cat Killer ,
Tyler Hayes Weinman ,
Father ,
Doug Weinman
Topics:
Daily Blotter
Share:
  • Share
  • Yahoo! Buzz
  • Mixx

More From Crimesider

Add a Comment See all 44 Comments
by deborah8 June 19, 2009 6:03 PM EDT
Joyce Dahmer, mother of serial killer Jeffrey, and a child psychologist, is quoted as saying they should have known something was terribly wrong when he began killing cats. If you read up on Dahmer you'll find striking similarities between his early years and that of Tyler Weinman. Not the least of which is his parents hadn't a clue.
Reply to this comment
by babooph June 18, 2009 3:38 AM EDT
This kids skills may be needed in the new GITMO ,when the republicans retake the White House-lets not be too harsh with him.
Reply to this comment
by DoubleHappiness88 June 18, 2009 2:57 AM EDT
Hear our humble prayer, O God,
for our friends the animals,
especially for animals who are suffering;
for animals that are overworked,
underfed and cruelly treated;
for all wistful creatures in captivity
that beat their wings against bars;
for any that are hunted or lost or deserted
or frightened or hungry;
for all that must be put death.
We entreat for them all Thy mercy and pity,
and for those who deal with them
we ask a heart of compassion
and gentle hands and kindly words.
Make us, ourselves, to be true friends to animals,
and so to share the blessings of the merciful.

Author - Albert Schweitzer
Reply to this comment
by hamiltongrad June 18, 2009 1:38 AM EDT
I must continue, as I can not sleep . Erasmus, please ! I do not automatically "blame" the father. I do not put the burden of "blame" on my to do list, as we are all products of societal/genetics/dynamical/interactive peers with the same resources and limitations. Nasty begets nasty , closed minded begets closed minded, and thus blame begests ? more blame.


Where does the "buck stop" ? With all of us.

Abuse is always.... multi generational, being passed on from victim to victim. This is basic 101 knowledge base, that any one who wants a passing grade, must understand and agree with. My mantra is not to hate men, but to liberate women.

Some items taught are foundational and are thus by definition, not compromised truth.

Any time one of these events occur, I will not be silenced. I support those who are the victims. Often twice so, once by an abuser, most consistently a male figure such as a teacher, father, grandfather, brother, neighbor, even some one at a store who "hits" on a female. I will not allow another abuse, by " blame game" societal witnesses who refuse to accept the 101 knowledge base facts.
Same for this young man. It is a cry for help. Cats can be replaced. An opportunity to help/guide/ define/ and DIALOGUE with this boy can be swept away by a frenzy on auto BLAME GAME.

There are no criminals, just the crimes sui generis- cowed/ruffed/penetrated by generational abuse.
Reply to this comment
by pleaseandthankyou June 18, 2009 3:02 AM EDT
hamiltongrag you have a nice little paradigm all tied up in a neat little package but if you were a true intellectual you would realize how myopic your view is. Yes, some people repeat the sins of their abusers. They use their abuse as an excuse to commit new crimes. This does not absolve them from personal responsibility. If you do not have personal responsibility, as you are advocating, then you do not have a basis for law and order, or civilization. The majority of people who are abused do not commit heinous crimes. Also, psychopathy is a clinical fact. Some people lack the ability to feel empathy and in fact gain pleasure from causing the suffering of others. Witness Richard Ramirez and Ted Bundy. These killers would not have been rehabilitated with dialogue, understanding and a hug. They LOVE to kill. You should be ashamed that you turn the killers into victims. It does great dishonor to the REAL victims of their crimes. Your attitude perpetuates crime because it gives cold blooded killers a free pass. Shame on you.
by pleaseandthankyou June 18, 2009 3:07 AM EDT
PS I suspect you identify so readily with criminals, because deep in your heart you know you are one.
by SusanStoHelit June 18, 2009 3:12 AM EDT
You lie - and apparently you make your students lie if they want a passing grade. Abuse is not always multigenerational. Most abused kids grow up to never abuse another human being. Some sick people become sick even though they had an ideal childhood with loving caring parents, and abuse their children. I don't believe you are any kind of professor if you're trying to pass on that BS as a known truth.

Not only is that a lie - it is a lie that is extremely hurtful to all abuse survivors - telling them that they'll be abusers in the future, pass it on - many have bought into that garbage and decided they can never have kids or marry. And you tell them that grandma and grandpa must be evil to, to have created the abuser. You should be ashamed of yourself putting that out here.
by gibsonnut June 18, 2009 1:19 AM EDT
Here Kitty Kitty !!! The kids need new glove liners!
Reply to this comment
by hamiltongrad June 18, 2009 1:05 AM EDT
My classes are over for this term, although I will be teaching a new session in Mid July, on Society, Gender, Class and Hate Crimes.
I am not a "man hater" as Erasmus says. In fact I almost vomited reading these hateful posts. Shame on you.
Reply to this comment
by SusanStoHelit June 18, 2009 3:09 AM EDT
I hope none of your students 'cry for help' on you. Your hateful posts (cats are just something that can be replaced, a future serial killer's behavior is just a cry for help) - don't make my stomach feel very settled either.
by pleaseandthankyou June 18, 2009 3:15 AM EDT
Sounds like a radical, left wing, reverse-hate, victim-identity academic crap sandwich class to me. Hey hamitongrad, I feel sooooo sorry for how tough you have it in this country. You are a true victim. Boo-freakin-hoo.
by aztecdakota June 18, 2009 12:22 AM EDT
I have alot of knives, I am retired. NONE of them have traces of blood on them. Except the kitchen knives which the family uses to cut things when preparing meals. Were this lads knives in wood blocks in the kitchen? It appears from reports, they were in his room. More investigating is needed.
Reply to this comment
by erasmus111 June 18, 2009 12:19 AM EDT
I will agree with hamiltongrad, that it should definitely be looked into to see if he was being abused, so he can get the help he needs, IF that is the case. If it is the case, it does not mean that the DAD abused him, it could have been the mother. Take note that he now has a stepmother and is in his dad's care. Where is the mother? I don't recall hearing where she is.
Reply to this comment
by erasmus111 June 18, 2009 12:13 AM EDT
by Anti-Zionist_107 June 17, 2009 9:07 PM PDT
maybe the cars kepts pooping next to his car door and he got upset that he had to step in cat poop every time he went to his car?


You obviously know nothing about cats. Unlike dogs, they don't poop just anywhere. They poop in dirt or sand. And they ALWAYS BURY IT.
Reply to this comment
by erasmus111 June 18, 2009 12:07 AM EDT
by tautomer June 17, 2009 7:19 PM PDT
Hamilton once told me he's a , get this!, "Professor of New Age Studies", although he wouldn't reveal the institution, LMAO. Anyway you know where the guys is coming from!


Hamilton told me that SHE was a "Professor of WOMEN'S Studies". Or I am taking it that she is a "she".

Hamilton has said that a woman is never guilty of a crime. That it's always a man's fault. Because he has abused the woman. Either the father or a husband. And so I imagine that with this kid, she is also thinking that it's the dad's fault that this kid has done this.

Now, I will agree that there are many cases where someone does this kind of stuff and it is because they were abused severely by someone, but it isn't always the case. In a lot of cases it's abuse from the mother. And in still other cases it isn't from abuse at all, they are BORN whacko.

I believe that Hamiltongrad has suffered some abuse in her life from a man and is now OBSESSED with it. She is a manhater.
Reply to this comment
by shockolit June 17, 2009 11:10 PM EDT
I guess I am about as complete a bleeding heart liberal as anyone, and I object that we are put in a class with Hamilton. I have always had several cats and I would defend them however I can. Liberal does not mean we don't expect others to pay for their choices.


This kid is sick and needs to be locked up forever. Not just for punishment, but for public safety. I believe the cops have the right person. Have any other cats been slaughtered since his arrest? Some parents manage to be around their kids without really being "there," not actually "connecting." Busy, successful, and well-off parents are really bad about this.


I may be liberal, but I'm a woman and I believe in Kipling's "The female of the species is more deadly than the male." I am one mean woman when I have to be. People better leave my cats alone. (They all live inside, anyway.)
Reply to this comment
by SusanStoHelit June 18, 2009 3:06 AM EDT
Hamilton is no representative of liberals - I'm one - and in no way do I agree with a word he's written; nor does he represent New Agers - as silly as their beliefs are - they aren't that dumb!
by tautomer June 17, 2009 10:19 PM EDT
HamiltonGrad always cracks me up with his off-the -wall tripe. This kid isn't asking for help by killing cats. Heck, he tried to cover up his crimes which means two things 1) he knew it was depraved and wrong and 2) he wanted to keep doing it.

Hamilton once told me he's a , get this!, "Professor of New Age Studies", although he wouldn't reveal the institution, LMAO. Anyway you know where the guys is coming from!

Hamilton, long ago man devised a way by which we could ask for assistance. It;s a time honored tradition. We say "I need help", it;s as simple as that. There is no cat-killing ritual that signifies that need. Why would you think there was?

The fact is, the father spilled bad seed when this kid was conceived. End of story. He needs to be stopped. Put him in jail where the other inmates can perform on him the acts he finds so pleasurable with cats. Imagine if we had just stopped Dahmer at this stage, how many lives it would have saved.

Save your deluded academic jetsam for you fellow New Agers, Hamilton.
Reply to this comment
by SusanStoHelit June 17, 2009 9:05 PM EDT
Thus far, no evidence has been presented to say he's guilty. We're trusting the cops and the prosecutor to be right - and I believe they are. But - were this my child, my parent, my friend - I'd require at least some bit of evidence to tell me that I was wrong. So I understand where this father is coming from.
Reply to this comment
by SusanStoHelit June 17, 2009 9:24 PM EDT
The father's true character will be revealed when evidence against his son is unveiled, if it is solid. Then I'd expect him to face reality, be quiet, and support his son as appropriate (try to get him help as well as jail time).
by pleaseandthankyou June 17, 2009 8:07 PM EDT
hamiltongrad, you are a typical bleeding heart who for some inexplicable reason cares more about a cat mutilator than the victims. he is NOT simply crying out for help, he is murdering and torturing cats in cold blood, for kicks. People like yourself, who refuse to admit to the presence of evil, indeed refuse to acknowledge a difference between right and wrong, perpetuate these types of crimes because the criminals KNOW they will get off with a bleeding heart slap on the wrist and a hug from their social workers. I know you want to believe everything can be solved with a hug, but it's highly naive, dangerous in fact. Next time someone is skinning your cat alive, just give them a lot of understanding, and a hug, and see how far that gets you. Your type of idealism is sweet and utopian, but in real life, it's pathetic.
Reply to this comment
by ammie8 June 17, 2009 10:13 PM EDT
To Pleaseandthankyou,

PLEASE do not call Hamilton a social worker. THANK YOU. I'm a social worker and my 4 cats and I have no pity for cat killers.
by brianbwb-2009 June 17, 2009 8:00 PM EDT
Interesting comment by the young man's attorney. In fact, regardless of the outcome of the investigation, all evidence is circumstantial, until it is determined by due process whether or not it warrants sanction.

The use of the "circumstantial evidence" comment as an attempt to deflect the course of due process, suggests that the attorney is either ill-equipped to deal with such matters, or s/he thinks that the public is so stupid that they will accept such a comment as justification for not pursuing the case.

The question suggested by this attorney's comment is, is it now proper for an attorney to consider that due process is less important than the convenience of his client, and if such is so, then to what good purpose to society do such people serve?
Reply to this comment
by burnhim June 17, 2009 7:53 PM EDT
Well since his father seems to know him since he raised him...why is the kid on drugs? Why does the kid have knives and cutting tools in his room with blood on them?

Dad, forget the denial!
Reply to this comment
by SusanStoHelit June 17, 2009 9:22 PM EDT
This description applies to a TON of teenagers - drugs, cutting, fascination with dark images - that's a very common stage for teenagers to go through. And out of the multitudes who fit this description - most would never think of hurting an animal for pleasure.
by erasmus111 June 17, 2009 6:59 PM EDT
by hamiltongrad June 17, 2009 3:10 PM PDT
Blame does nothing but make members of society "feel good" by doing the "easy thing" first.


But isn't that exactly what you are doing when you blame men for EVERYTHING?
Reply to this comment
by hamiltongrad June 17, 2009 6:13 PM EDT
Ignoring a cry for help is just as cruel.
Reply to this comment
by hamiltongrad June 17, 2009 6:10 PM EDT
If this youth did these acts, then he is simply crying out for help. If we ignore his pleads, and inturn use punishment when instead we need to understand, converse, and dialogue, we too are responsible for killing these animals.
If he did these things, we need to listen why. Cats can be replaced. Memories can serve as guidelines for the futures. Blame does nothing but make members of society "feel good" by doing the "easy thing" first.
Reply to this comment
by burnhim June 17, 2009 7:51 PM EDT
Cats can be replaced??? Sorry but these cats were peoples pets that they loved and cherished! Will you say the same about someone's child?
by pleaseandthankyou June 17, 2009 8:23 PM EDT
Wait, we are cat killers too if we refuse to listen to the reason why some guy got his kicks from mutilating and torturing cats and terrorizing his neighbors?!. What if we "converse, dialogue with him, and he says he did it because it was fun. Then what do you say Gandhi? His reason is rather irrelevant at this point, if he did it. If he chose to take away the right of pet owners to ever see their pets again, then he lost the right to have the community's sympathy. The only thing this guy has earned is swift execution. PS Cats cannot be replaced, nor can the psyche of a terrorized neighborhood be easily repared.
by SusanStoHelit June 17, 2009 9:07 PM EDT
No - he's not crying for help. He is enjoying seeing the pain, torment, and death of an animal, creating torment for the humans whose pet he killed then displayed in the worst way possible for them to see. This is a deep sickness, always indicates a future serial killer every time we've seen it, and thus far is nothing we know how to cure. Someone who enjoys seeing creatures in pain will move on to people when they can. Oh, and cats cannot be replaced - they are living creatures, and like each one, they have their own unique personality and relationship with their owner that can never be replaced by the next cat.
by ClaudiaW2010 June 17, 2009 11:34 PM EDT
I agree with you. In order to stop future sadistic killers we hear about on the news so much these days, we have to find out what's going on with the young offender. It's the only way to prevent more atrocious crimes from being committed on human beings(like children) a few years down the road. Not just throw the young in a cell at the mercy of older, lifer prisoners who have been institutionalized so long and then release the younger man with even more aggressive behaviors.
by traffic101 June 18, 2009 7:31 AM EDT
Cats can be replaced? A broken dish can be replaced! You obviously have never had the love of a pet.
by sherrydog June 17, 2009 5:55 PM EDT
what is with these parents... but I guess you are innocent until proven guilty
Reply to this comment
See all 44 Comments

Crimesider Topics

Crimesider is the ultimate destination for true-crime fans: riveting crimes, exclusive 911 calls, police interrogations, expert forensics, and more. It's in our DNA. Now it's in yours.

BOOK 'EM

Book 'Em: It Happens Every Day

Inside the World of a Sex Crimes D.A.

Photos
Scroll Left Scroll Right