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June 11, 2009 2:01 PM

House Leaders Duel Over Health Care

(AP)
Top House Leadership drew lines in the sand on health care reform today as President Obama traveled to Green Bay, Wisconsin, for his own health care town hall meeting.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi made clear in her weekly press conference that the centerpiece of House Democrat's plan to reform health care is a public option. When asked if the speaker would support a proposal gaining momentum in the Senate to create a non-profit insurance entity instead of a government plan Pelosi said "not instead of a public option, no."

The insistence on a government health insurance option means any hope for Republicans and Democrats to finally work together on an issue of great importance to the country is waning rapidly.

In his own weekly media availability, House Minority Leader John Boehner said he's "opposed to a government option. Period." Boehner said a government-run healthcare plan would make going to the doctor like going to the DMV.

Republicans in both the House and Senate oppose a government option on the grounds that it would drive out private insurers. Republican have made their case for months that any time the government competes with business, government, with its endless resources and ability to change the rules, wins.

Pelosi said that the public plan should be a real competitor with the private sector and not have an unfair advantage. "When you say the words public option," Pelosi said, "you have to say right next to it level playing field."

Three House Democratic Chairmen are working on a health care reform bill together and hope to have a full draft in the next couple weeks. The issue that will likely get even thornier than what the public option looks like is how it will all be paid for.

Jill Jackson is a CBS News Capitol Hill producer.



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by inesje88 June 15, 2009 1:33 AM EDT
We hide behind a fortress of denial if we think our elected officials who are bribed by corporations(take for an example Max Baucus and the large sums he received form the health care industry), are acting in the behalf of the average American. many of theose officials have been in DC for decades and not only are out of touch with main street, but believe they are the intitled ones, able to not represent those who elected them but take donations from the corporations they were sworn to oversee. They have become accustomed to the gravy train, even if it runs over the average American as it chugs along.

The present system is broken. To put more cash into it (premiums by employees and employers), is just as crazy as having The Federal Reserve print money for the US treasury out of nothing &employing the concept of usury on pretend loans. If we continue the present for profit health care system, it is estimated in 15-20 years that 100% of an average workers salary will be used to pay his monthly health insurance premium(not deductable, not co-pay).

We have been held hostage to the health care elite too long in this country. Right now, most Americans do not have choice of their doctors. The for profit health insurance companies dictate that. The health care industry spent over $35 million in lobbyist in just the first quarter of this year to fight true reform"Single Payer". They donated money to the people you and I elected to represent us to keep their domination alive. This money comes from premiums we pay for health care. Denials to consumers follow and doctors must hire a large staff to chase the insurance money. Our elected officials talk about human rights while thousands die yearly from lack of adequate health care and 60% of the bankruptcies in the USA are due to medical probelms,even with health insurance.

Now that many US citizens are loosing their jobs and health care they are turning to the military for jobs. How many jobs would be created with a single payer health care system? Millions. If this were to happen, how would we have recruit for citizens to fight for and then occupy, our ever expanding empire?

Corporations have no soul and I fear that many of our elected officials are the souless suits up on the hill. We have left the next generation with a huge debt by allowing Bernacke to run the prining presses 24/7. We owe it to the next generation to truly fixi health care (and not just putting a bandage on it), and inact Single Payer Health Care, everyone in, nobody out.
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by Solarrays247 June 11, 2009 8:14 PM EDT
Amazing con job from our liberal socialist messiah! "You can keep your current plan and doctor"...yeah right, until your plan is forced out of business trying to compete with a welfare plan. Then, due to high taxes to pay for Obama-care, you will be forced to join the socialist plan. America, how many times are you going to be conned before you wake up?
Posted by TryTakingMyMoney at 5:01 PM : Jun 11, 2009



Oh, I think we have already been conned big time! Take a look at the following data, if you will:

Here's a rundown of all the money that the people who are blocking real reform in health care have received from the health care industry.

Arlen Specter (R-D- PA- $4,026,933)
Max Baucus (DLC- MT- $2,833,731)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY- $2,758,468)

And when you just go right to Big Insurance, the non-presidential candidates who got the biggest legalized bribes were the 7 senators who have been tasked with the job of killing single-payer:

Ben Nelson (DLC-NE- $1,196,799)
Max Baucus (DLC- MT- $1,184,113)
Joe Lieberman (DLC- CT- $1,036,302)
Arlen Specter (R-D- PA- $1,035,530)
Chuck Schumer (D-NY- $981,400)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY- $929,207)
Chuck Grassley (R-IA- $884,724)

Number of Americans without health insurance:

2000 = 42.6 million

2009 = 82 million
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by TryTakingMyMoney June 11, 2009 8:01 PM EDT
Amazing con job from our liberal socialist messiah! "You can keep your current plan and doctor"...yeah right, until your plan is forced out of business trying to compete with a welfare plan. Then, due to high taxes to pay for Obama-care, you will be forced to join the socialist plan. America, how many times are you going to be conned before you wake up?
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by Solarrays247 June 11, 2009 7:44 PM EDT
Furthermore, doctors have to consult with the government before certain proceedures are done and the patients are not the consideration for Washington's decisions.
Posted by joule18 at 12:18 PM : Jun 11, 2009


And furthermore, my doctors have to consult with my health insurance before most procedures are done, and try to prove to me that the patient's welfare is foremost in the minds of most health insurance company CEO's! LOL

Please do yourself a favor and do some research. It is not that difficult to uncover the real facts. You are going to have to view the big picture, actually.
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by Solarrays247 June 11, 2009 7:41 PM EDT
Too many people think that they health care they have now will last forever and don't seem to realize that their providers would drop them in a heart beat tomorrow if it would save a nickel.
Posted by SugrDaddy at 12:19 PM : Jun 11, 2009

Not if you pay your premiums on time or didn't lie on the application..
Posted by whymayiask at 12:25 PM : Jun 11, 2009

Your statement is untrue, whymayiask!! Try googling regarding lawsuits against health insurance companies dropping clients, and then being sued as a result. I guarantee that you will uncover some pretty sickening scenarios!

The facts are out there for anyone who is willing to do your own research, or you can continue to parrot the talking heads!
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by rhs648 June 11, 2009 7:04 PM EDT
Ban for-profit health care altogether.
Posted by nofoolling

That is not the American way. Capitalism is the American way and has worked better than other systems. Talk to those living in socialist countries. Britain's unemployment runs around 10% in the best of times.
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by scottyusa June 11, 2009 6:54 PM EDT
This is beginning to smell like another government takeover this time healthcare. We should have another czar soon. Pelosi hasn't got an active brain cell in her body.
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by babooph June 11, 2009 6:16 PM EDT
Public plan is DEAD -no lobbyists for the politicians & propagandists-massive healthcare rip off to continue-MULTI million $ salaries for its execs protected by lobbyists-one more nail in the coffin of the middle class.
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by skyk-2009 June 11, 2009 5:38 PM EDT
The answer is universal health care which rations who gets care depending on age and/or health. Should a 75 year old person be eligible for open heart surgery or an organ transplant? Should a critically ill infant be eligible for open heart surgery or an organ transplant? Should a government panel dictate who gets what? We scream when an insurance company tries to restrict coverage. What happens when the government tries to restrict coverage?
Posted by rhs648 at 1:42 PM : Jun 11, 2009

LOL I don't know what planet you reside on but in THIS nation as we talk here, Insurance Companies and HMO's are making the very decisions you want to scare people with. I have been in Medicare now for a couple of years and have NOT had one procedure denied me. That was NOT the case when I was in a Managed Care Plan. For DECADES now the Right has been telling us that Private Enterprise is better and more efficient than the Government... it's time they PROVED it. No one HAS to take the Public Plan but my guess? Unless Private Insurance Company's change their attitude and way of doing business, people will flock to the Public Plan.
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by nofoolling June 11, 2009 5:36 PM EDT
Republicans in both the House and Senate oppose a government option on the grounds that it would drive out private insurers. Republican have made their case for months that any time the government competes with business, government, with its endless resources and ability to change the rules, wins.

So in the opinion of the Reps, its better to let parasitic insurance companies profit outrageously at the expense of those in misery.

Ban for-profit health care altogether.
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by skyk-2009 June 11, 2009 5:33 PM EDT
Are you talking about his america s--- tour? The one he bows to the king or the one he kissed the muslims azzz.es for a shopping spree for his family in France?Yes that was a real big success.
Posted by specialty8 at 1:08 PM : Jun 11, 2009

LOL I'm talking about the one where he restored the position of this nation in the world. LOOK at the polls from ALL the nations on this PLANET for crying out loud. I know you want him to fail and everyone can see that but your constant fall back on the trash put out by the Radical Right isn't helping your cause... honest!
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by nikosk11 June 11, 2009 4:58 PM EDT
Does that make sense to you? I know exactly what I am talking about.
Posted by whymayiask at 12:23 PM : Jun 11, 2009

You wish.
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by rhs648 June 11, 2009 4:56 PM EDT
The government is the only way to bring cost back into check. The medical system is looting this Great Nation. If you have any doubts look at our Postal System. It has been in business for over 200 years. For less than 50 cents you can send a letter from coast to coast approximately 3200 miles. All the Jobs the USPS creates are good to. The USPS had always operated in the black until republicans in 2006 wrote a law that required the USPS to pay for retiree "health care" in advance through the year 2017. What would have been a profit in the year 2007 immediately sent the post office into the red. 18 more republican senate seats on the ballot in 2010. All of them need to go.
Posted by rightaboutit

Not everyone perceives the postal system as such a good deal. To some, service is fair at best and without the government to prop them up, would the postal system be so successful?
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by rhs648 June 11, 2009 4:42 PM EDT
"THe US medical system is broken because. "" ALL around us are patients who don't care about costs , Doctors who don't care about costs and Hospitals who don't care about costs. .. It is really simple..."

The answer is universal health care which rations who gets care depending on age and/or health. Should a 75 year old person be eligible for open heart surgery or an organ transplant? Should a critically ill infant be eligible for open heart surgery or an organ transplant? Should a government panel dictate who gets what? We scream when an insurance company tries to restrict coverage. What happens when the government tries to restrict coverage?
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by cruzn66 June 11, 2009 4:33 PM EDT
What "good" is having choice or having the best health care system in the world if you cannot afford to access it or go bankrupt trying to pay for it. The middle class continues to get squeezed out of the system due either to higher premiums, or higher taxes. This is a mess where everybody is going to lose because "greed is good"!
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by cruzn66 June 11, 2009 4:29 PM EDT
The insurance industry lobbyists will be hard at work paying off their favorite reps to see that this gets watered down to the point of mere lip service to the American people!
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by berniew4 June 11, 2009 4:13 PM EDT
THe US medical system is broken because. "" ALL around us are patients who don't care about costs , Doctors who don't care about costs and Hospitals who don't care about costs. .. It is really simple .. Everyone shoud have {MANDATORY} heath care. Govyt can help where needed. BUT ALL 100% of coverage should include some copay always by the patients so they can discuss costs with medicarl care professionals. I have been very sick and MEDICARE paid 100% of the costs. Doctors , Hospitals,home care , THERAPY. etc all paid for ?>> VNo wonbder costs are high. I propose everyone should pay some of medical costs too point out the WASTED $$ ..
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by specialty8 June 11, 2009 4:08 PM EDT
Skyk,
Are you talking about his america s--- tour? The one he bows to the king or the one he kissed the muslims azzz.es for a shopping spree for his family in France?Yes that was a real big success.
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by skyk-2009 June 11, 2009 3:56 PM EDT
What"s to duel about? We put Democrats in charge for a reason... we voted for that party because we wanted CHANGE, not more of the same tired old lines about socialized medicine and MORE scare tactics. There has to be a Public Option or nothing is going to change.
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by skyk-2009 June 11, 2009 3:54 PM EDT
Not if you pay your premiums on time or didn't lie on the application..
Posted by whymayiask at 12:25 PM : Jun 11, 2009

LOL Right! That's crap and everyone knows it! These Private Insurance Company's don't want any competition because they couldn't just cancel at the drop of a hat... happens every day. TIME for some REAL change here!
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