The "Open Question" On Vaccines and Autism

(CBS)
Perhaps the most puzzling thing about autism and ADD is that more than a decade into this public health crisis, our best, smartest government scientists and public health officials still say they have no idea what's causing it. Scary stuff, when parents having a child today realize there's at least an estimated 1 in 150 chance their child will have an autism disorder (1 in 90 if it's a boy).
While the government has been utterly unable to stop it, or even tell us what is causing it, they say they do know one thing: it's not vaccines. But today, in an exclusive interview with CBS News, Dr. Bernadine Healy becomes the most well-known medical voice yet to counter the government on that claim.
Healy's credentials couldn't be more "mainstream." After all, she once was a top government health official as head of the National Institutes of Health. She founded the first school of public health in Ohio, and then headed both the school of public health and the school of medicine at Ohio State University. She's an internist and cardiologist. And she's a member of the Institute of Medicine, the government advisory board that tried to put the vaccine-autism controversy to rest in 2004 by saying a link was not likely.
Click below to watch a Web-exclusive extended cut of Sharyl's interview with Dr. Healy:
According to Healy, when she began researching autism and vaccines she found credible published, peer-reviewed scientific studies that support the idea of an association. That seemed to counter what many of her colleagues had been saying for years. She dug a little deeper and was surprised to find that the government has not embarked upon some of the most basic research that could help answer the question of a link.
The more she dug, she says, the more she came to believe the government and medical establishment were intentionally avoiding the question because they were afraid of the answer.
Why? Healy says some in the government make the mistake of treating vaccines as an all-or-nothing proposition. The argument goes something like this: everybody gets vaccinated at the same time with the same vaccines or nobody will get vaccinated and long-gone deadly diseases will re-emerge. (When I asked about cases of brain damage resulting in autism that have been quietly compensated by the government in vaccine court over the years, one government official recently told me that "it's still better overall to get vaccinated than not to get vaccinated.")
Healy says the argument need not be framed in those terms (vaccinate or don't vaccinate). Instead, she says, we should vaccinate, but work to do it in the safest manner possible based on what we know and what we can find out.
That's what the parents of autistic children have told me as well. If we can screen children to see which ones might be more susceptible to vaccine side effects, and vaccinate them on a more personalized schedule that is safer for them, why wouldn't we? If it's safer for all children to have their vaccinations spread out, why wouldn't we? Healy says it's called "personalized medicine" and is being done in virtually all areas of medicine today with the exception of vaccines. Yet the government continues to frame the conversation in all-or-nothing, "one-size-fits-all" terms.
Lastly, Healy says the government has a long way to go to even do basic research that could get at the heart of what she believes is an open question. For example: why in the past decade hasn't the government compared the autism/ADD rate of unvaccinated children with that of vaccinated children? If the rate is the same, it tends to point away from vaccines. If the rate is markedly lower in unvaccinated children, it tends to point toward vaccines.
The government has a dataset of unvaccinated children available. It has published more than one survey of parents of undervaccinated and unvaccinated children (to find out why the parents are choosing not to vaccinate). It would seem simple to use those same families to measure their rate of autism/ADD. Also, why hasn't the government used vaccine court as a resource to ask the autism/vaccine question. There, nearly 5,000 families have self-selected as believing their children's autism was caused by vaccines. Many have expressed willingness to let their children's medical records be released and studied; but nobody in the government has been interested.
As if that's not scary enough, look down the road a little. Millions of autistic children will - in the not-too-distant future - outgrow their parents, or their parents will no longer be able to care for them. Their only option in many cases is institutionalization. Who, but a parent or family member, can and would devote the moment-by-moment attention it takes to raise an autistic child? Our nation has not, to my knowledge, begun to build these institutions, or figure out how to pay for them.
Back to the subject at hand. If the day comes that public health officials can finally tell us with reasonable certainty what is causing all the autism and ADD, and if the cause has nothing to do with vaccines, I think most people will just be relieved to know what it is and feel that we can, then, be closer to stopping it. Until then, in the minds of many, including Healy, it remains a sad, open question.
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See all 53 CommentsVaccine safety is an issue of importance for ALL parents, not just parents of children with autism.
Please watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNqMLsrCUoo&feature=related
(The 2 minute edited version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGC_U_4nJHc)
The video asks the Candidates for their positions regarding two actions the next President can take to begin to improve vaccine safety.
Material Safety Data Sheet for Thimerosal: http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/media/1.13.pdf
Page 2: "Exposure to mercury in utero and in children may cause mild to severe mental retardation and mild to severe motor coordination impairment."
April 4, 2008, page 33:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/00_pdf/draft_agenda_recommendations_080404.pdf
"Simultaneous vaccination
. Usually simultaneous vaccination is incompletely studied
at time of licensure....
. ACIP recommends simultaneous vaccination, unless
contraindications are present (CDC, ACIP General Recommendations,
2006)."
The video transcript the transcript with live link references is here: http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/05/for-mothers-day.html)
Vaccine safety is an issue of importance for ALL parents, not just parents of children with autism.
Please watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNqMLsrCUoo&feature=related
(The 2 minute edited version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGC_U_4nJHc)
The video asks the Candidates for their positions regarding two actions the next President can take to begin to improve vaccine safety.
Material Safety Data Sheet for Thimerosal: http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/media/1.13.pdf
Page 2: "Exposure to mercury in utero and in children may cause mild to severe mental retardation and mild to severe motor coordination impairment."
April 4, 2008, page 33:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/00_pdf/draft_agenda_recommendations_080404.pdf
"Simultaneous vaccination
. Usually simultaneous vaccination is incompletely studied
at time of licensure....
. ACIP recommends simultaneous vaccination, unless
contraindications are present (CDC, ACIP General Recommendations,
2006)."
The video transcript the transcript with live link references is here: http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/05/for-mothers-day.html)
Vaccine safety is an issue of importance for ALL parents, not just parents of children with autism.
Please watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNqMLsrCUoo&feature=related
(The 2 minute edited version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGC_U_4nJHc)
The video asks the Candidates for their positions regarding two actions the next President can take to begin to improve vaccine safety.
Material Safety Data Sheet for Thimerosal: http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/media/1.13.pdf
Page 2: "Exposure to mercury in utero and in children may cause mild to severe mental retardation and mild to severe motor coordination impairment."
April 4, 2008, page 33:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/00_pdf/draft_agenda_recommendations_080404.pdf
"Simultaneous vaccination
. Usually simultaneous vaccination is incompletely studied
at time of licensure....
. ACIP recommends simultaneous vaccination, unless
contraindications are present (CDC, ACIP General Recommendations,
2006)."
The video transcript the transcript with live link references is here: http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/05/for-mothers-day.html)
Vaccine safety is an issue of importance for ALL parents, not just parents of children with autism.
Please watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNqMLsrCUoo&feature=related
(The 2 minute edited version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGC_U_4nJHc)
The video asks the Candidates for their positions regarding two actions the next President can take to begin to improve vaccine safety.
Material Safety Data Sheet for Thimerosal: http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/media/1.13.pdf
Page 2: "Exposure to mercury in utero and in children may cause mild to severe mental retardation and mild to severe motor coordination impairment."
April 4, 2008, page 33:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/00_pdf/draft_agenda_recommendations_080404.pdf
"Simultaneous vaccination
. Usually simultaneous vaccination is incompletely studied
at time of licensure....
. ACIP recommends simultaneous vaccination, unless
contraindications are present (CDC, ACIP General Recommendations,
2006)."
The video transcript the transcript with live link references is here: http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/05/for-mothers-day.html)
Vaccine safety is an issue of importance for ALL parents, not just parents of children with autism.
Please watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNqMLsrCUoo&feature=related
(The 2 minute edited version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGC_U_4nJHc)
The video asks the Candidates for their positions regarding two actions the next President can take to begin to improve vaccine safety.
Material Safety Data Sheet for Thimerosal: http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/media/1.13.pdf
Page 2: "Exposure to mercury in utero and in children may cause mild to severe mental retardation and mild to severe motor coordination impairment."
April 4, 2008, page 33:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/00_pdf/draft_agenda_recommendations_080404.pdf
"Simultaneous vaccination
. Usually simultaneous vaccination is incompletely studied
at time of licensure....
. ACIP recommends simultaneous vaccination, unless
contraindications are present (CDC, ACIP General Recommendations,
2006)."
The video transcript the transcript with live link references is here: http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/05/for-mothers-day.html)
This report is writen to support the vaccine trial which started today--it is far from an objective report, and certainly not merely a list of papers.
As noted in the opening statements, the family''s lawyers are trying this in the press while the government is doing the right thing and trying this in the court.
Dr. Healy talks in vague generalities about there being credible evidence, while not actually discussing which studies she feels would lend credibility to this idea.
This story is filled with most of the vaccines-cause-autism buzz phrases, many of them totally inaccurate, that one has to wonder at the goals of the author.
For example:
"Yet the government continues to frame the conversation in all-or-nothing, "one-size-fits-all" terms. "
Did you not hear the CDC talk about the vaccine schedule and how parents need to talk this over with their own pediatrician? Anyone following this story for the past few months could never make that statement as journalism.
Sorry, but this blog post belongs on a fringe blog like the Age of Autism, rather than on the website of an actual news organization.
This report is writen to support the vaccine trial which started today--it is far from an objective report, and certainly not merely a list of papers.
As noted in the opening statements, the family''s lawyers are trying this in the press while the government is doing the right thing and trying this in the court.
Dr. Healy talks in vague generalities about there being credible evidence, while not actually discussing which studies she feels would lend credibility to this idea.
This story is filled with most of the vaccines-cause-autism buzz phrases, many of them totally inaccurate, that one has to wonder at the goals of the author.
For example:
"Yet the government continues to frame the conversation in all-or-nothing, "one-size-fits-all" terms. "
Did you not hear the CDC talk about the vaccine schedule and how parents need to talk this over with their own pediatrician? Anyone following this story for the past few months could never make that statement as journalism.
Sorry, but this blog post belongs on a fringe blog like the Age of Autism, rather than on the website of an actual news organization.
http://www.schizophreniaforum.org/for/curr/Malaspina/default.asp
Furthermore, I agree that autism-mercury myth is a modern "snake oil" business that preys on the vulnerable emotions of parents who are desperate for help with their autistic children.
The most active attorney is a business partner of the Dr. who does the most of the "research" into the mercury-autism myth. He has not published in respected journals - three of his papers were published in the discredited "Journal of the American Physicians and Surgeons", which is not listed on any medical database and is listed as "untrustworthy, non-recommended periodical." by Quack Watch dot org.
This is particularly true of men - Prof. Chris Gillberg found that immigrant families had a much higher rate of autism, looking closer he found that fathers with mild autism had gone abroad to marry foreign women and then returned to Sweden. They went abroad because women in their own country viewed them as too odd & eccentric, but foreign wifes saw them their behaviors as Swedishness.
Snake oil huh? Would you care to give an explanation of how children as young as those mentioned in the report above registered such a high reading of metals? And I suppose those children who have responded to diets such as the GF/CF diet, or the Spec. Carb. Diet don''t really exist? I guess my child doesn''t exist either.
Yes, there are snake oil salesmen out there. But many of them walk among the mainstream med. community where they are readily accepted. These are the ones who tried to sell the parents of autistics the idea that their kids will be institutionalized with no hope of a real life, and that mothers should blame themselves for their children''s condition. (BTW, someone named Bernard Rimland, who you would call a quack, is the one who discredited the "Refridgerator Mother" syndrome)
Yet, kids are recovering from this epidemic... with the help of both behavioral and biomedical treatments acting in tandem with ea other.
If autism is just a mental/psychological disorder caused by just genetic factors, then why are kids GI and immunological systems being affected? And why when you treat these systems are the children recovering?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJIXEyXE4Vk
To all at CBSNews, I urge you to please continue coverage on this story.
Hundreds of doctors and scientists have been warning about them for years.
In the past journalist routinely run to the corrupt CDC and the incompetent FDA for information regarding vaccine safety and efficacy. They might as well be asking the vaccine producers themselves since that is where most will work after they put in a few years at their government jobs.
Parents of vaccine injured children and vaccine injured adults find the bureaucracy is unable to hear them. They find it is so corrupt and set in it''s misguided belief system regarding vaccinations that it is almost pointless to even discuss the sacred fantasy that vaccines are the salvation of mankind.
Anyone who challenges the religion of vaccines is ruthlessly attacked, doctors are afraid to speak for fear of they will be branded "anti-vaccination". Scientist must only talk of genetic causes for fear of losing their funding.
Doctors fail to report side effects at an estimated rate of 90%.
Many will go to extremes to explain away side effects as anything but what they are.
They like to point to studies from other countries.Why hasn''t one been done in this country? The vaccine autism link will never be debunked because the CDC has known for at least 8 years they cause autism.
Dr. Healy is to be congratulated for her willingness to stand up to the government and the status quo by stating what many parents have suspected for a long time--that the IOM and the CDC do not want to know what truly solid research studies on vaccine safety will show.
And what about the principles of informed consent, right to know, and "first, do no harm"?
The bottom line is that there have been extensive investigations into the hypothesis that vaccines are connected to autism, and those investigations have failed to show any connection. The longer the True Believers, goaded by the likes of Dr. Healy, remain fixated on this scientific dead end, the longer we''ll have to wait before the real cause of autism is found.
Diamonddavej,
I am sure you do have an ASD; however, my son does not (even though a doctor gave him an "autism" diagnosis). He is vaccine injured. His injury caused him to have neurological problems that translate as "autism" - but trust me, he does not have what you have.
anniepema, My husband and I were not in any way,shape or form "old" or "aged" when our son came into this world. I do not have a mental disorder, nor does my husband... although, I must admit, sometimes I feel like I might develop one... like right now, I definitely feel one coming on...
My son developed normally - talking, reading, laughing - until he was about 18 months old. It took about a year for him to totally slip away - nonverbal, "in his own world", and severe diarrhea. Two years ago we started the biomed intervention. Today, thanks to that darned snake oil, my son attends kindergarten with a "typical" class, no aides, no help. MEDICAL TESTING has shown our doctor the treatment path to take, we''ve taken it, my son is better.
I am writing to congratulate Sharyl Attkisson and CBS Evening News for last night''s important and courageous report and interview with Dr. Healy.
Our son, Davey, was crippled by vaccines and his case is part of the 4,900 currently being heard in the Autism Omnibus hearing. When Dr. Healy spoke about the need to make vaccines safe not just for the majority, but also for the subgroup of childrend susceptible to their damage, she was speaking on behalf of our son.
For her courage, for your reporter''s and network''s willingness to say this, my family will forever have you in our hearts. You have earned a group of new and loyal viewers from our extended families.
Thank you, thank you.
I am writing to congratulate Sharyl Attkisson and CBS Evening News for last night''s important and courageous report and interview with Dr. Healy.
Our son, Davey, was crippled by vaccines and his case is part of the 4,900 currently being heard in the Autism Omnibus hearing. When Dr. Healy spoke about the need to make vaccines safe not just for the majority, but also for the subgroup of childrend susceptible to their damage, she was speaking on behalf of our son.
For her courage, for your reporter''s and network''s willingness to say this, my family will forever have you in our hearts. You have earned a group of new and loyal viewers from our extended families.
Thank you, thank you.
I am writing to congratulate Sharyl Attkisson and CBS Evening News for last night''s important and courageous report and interview with Dr. Healy.
Our son, Davey, was crippled by vaccines and his case is part of the 4,900 currently being heard in the Autism Omnibus hearing. When Dr. Healy spoke about the need to make vaccines safe not just for the majority, but also for the subgroup of childrend susceptible to their damage, she was speaking on behalf of our son.
For her courage, for your reporter''s and network''s willingness to say this, my family will forever have you in our hearts. You have earned a group of new and loyal viewers from our extended families.
Thank you, thank you.
I am writing to congratulate Sharyl Attkisson and CBS Evening News for last night''s important and courageous report and interview with Dr. Healy.
Our son, Davey, was crippled by vaccines and his case is part of the 4,900 currently being heard in the Autism Omnibus hearing. When Dr. Healy spoke about the need to make vaccines safe not just for the majority, but also for the subgroup of childrend susceptible to their damage, she was speaking on behalf of our son.
For her courage, for your reporter''s and network''s willingness to say this, my family will forever have you in our hearts. You have earned a group of new and loyal viewers from our extended families.
Thank you, thank you.
I am writing to congratulate Sharyl Attkisson and CBS Evening News for last night''s important and courageous report and interview with Dr. Healy.
Our son, Davey, was crippled by vaccines and his case is part of the 4,900 currently being heard in the Autism Omnibus hearing. When Dr. Healy spoke about the need to make vaccines safe not just for the majority, but also for the subgroup of childrend susceptible to their damage, she was speaking on behalf of our son.
For her courage, for your reporter''s and network''s willingness to say this, my family will forever have you in our hearts. You have earned a group of new and loyal viewers from our extended families.
Thank you, thank you.
I am writing to congratulate Sharyl Attkisson and CBS Evening News for last night''s important and courageous report and interview with Dr. Healy.
Our son, Davey, was crippled by vaccines and his case is part of the 4,900 currently being heard in the Autism Omnibus hearing. When Dr. Healy spoke about the need to make vaccines safe not just for the majority, but also for the subgroup of childrend susceptible to their damage, she was speaking on behalf of our son.
For her courage, for your reporter''s and network''s willingness to say this, my family will forever have you in our hearts. You have earned a group of new and loyal viewers from our extended families.
Thank you, thank you.
I am writing to congratulate Sharyl Attkisson and CBS Evening News for last night''s important and courageous report and interview with Dr. Healy.
Our son, Davey, was crippled by vaccines and his case is part of the 4,900 currently being heard in the Autism Omnibus hearing. When Dr. Healy spoke about the need to make vaccines safe not just for the majority, but also for the subgroup of childrend susceptible to their damage, she was speaking on behalf of our son.
For her courage, for your reporter''s and network''s willingness to say this, my family will forever have you in our hearts. You have earned a group of new and loyal viewers from our extended families.
Thank you, thank you.
I am writing to congratulate Sharyl Attkisson and CBS Evening News for last night''s important and courageous report and interview with Dr. Healy.
Our son, Davey, was crippled by vaccines and his case is part of the 4,900 currently being heard in the Autism Omnibus hearing. When Dr. Healy spoke about the need to make vaccines safe not just for the majority, but also for the subgroup of childrend susceptible to their damage, she was speaking on behalf of our son.
For her courage, for your reporter''s and network''s willingness to say this, my family will forever have you in our hearts. You have earned a group of new and loyal viewers from our extended families.
Thank you, thank you.
I am writing to congratulate Sharyl Attkisson and CBS Evening News for last night''s important and courageous report and interview with Dr. Healy.
Our son, Davey, was crippled by vaccines and his case is part of the 4,900 currently being heard in the Autism Omnibus hearing. When Dr. Healy spoke about the need to make vaccines safe not just for the majority, but also for the subgroup of childrend susceptible to their damage, she was speaking on behalf of our son.
For her courage, for your reporter''s and network''s willingness to say this, my family will forever have you in our hearts. You have earned a group of new and loyal viewers from our extended families.
Thank you, thank you.
I am writing to congratulate Sharyl Attkisson and CBS Evening News for last night''s important and courageous report and interview with Dr. Healy.
Our son, Davey, was crippled by vaccines and his case is part of the 4,900 currently being heard in the Autism Omnibus hearing. When Dr. Healy spoke about the need to make vaccines safe not just for the majority, but also for the subgroup of childrend susceptible to their damage, she was speaking on behalf of our son.
For her courage, for your reporter''s and network''s willingness to say this, my family will forever have you in our hearts. You have earned a group of new and loyal viewers from our extended families.
Thank you, thank you.
I am writing to congratulate Sharyl Attkisson and CBS Evening News for last night''s important and courageous report and interview with Dr. Healy.
Our son, Davey, was crippled by vaccines and his case is part of the 4,900 currently being heard in the Autism Omnibus hearing. When Dr. Healy spoke about the need to make vaccines safe not just for the majority, but also for the subgroup of childrend susceptible to their damage, she was speaking on behalf of our son.
For her courage, for your reporter''s and network''s willingness to say this, my family will forever have you in our hearts. You have earned a group of new and loyal viewers from our extended families.
Thank you, thank you.
I am writing to congratulate Sharyl Attkisson and CBS Evening News for last night''s important and courageous report and interview with Dr. Healy.
Our son, Davey, was crippled by vaccines and his case is part of the 4,900 currently being heard in the Autism Omnibus hearing. When Dr. Healy spoke about the need to make vaccines safe not just for the majority, but also for the subgroup of childrend susceptible to their damage, she was speaking on behalf of our son.
For her courage, for your reporter''s and network''s willingness to say this, my family will forever have you in our hearts. You have earned a group of new and loyal viewers from our extended families.
Thank you, thank you.
My two children and I are all victims of vaccine injury (hearing loss, vision damage, developmental delays, convulsions, etc. etc. etc). I cannot tell you how much your interview meant!
I really hope that someday though the news agencies will be bold enough to air it (or interviews like it).
Again, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I am writing to congratulate Sharyl Attkisson and CBS Evening News for last night''s important and courageous report and interview with Dr. Healy.
Our son, Davey, was crippled by vaccines and his case is part of the 4,900 currently being heard in the Autism Omnibus hearing. When Dr. Healy spoke about the need to make vaccines safe not just for the majority, but also for the subgroup of childrend susceptible to their damage, she was speaking on behalf of our son.
For her courage, for your reporter''s and network''s willingness to say this, my family will forever have you in our hearts. You have earned a group of new and loyal viewers from our extended families.
Thank you, thank you.
People can blather all they want about the "well-done studies" from the U.K. and Denmark and anywhere but the U.S. But epidemiology is like doing surgery with a dull knife (a toxicologist''s recent quote) and what matters are these kids'' lab tests.
Online bluster and posturing can''t wish away the paradox that a product intended to improve health is having the opposite effect in some children. It''s way past time to go back to the drawing board and figure out why this is happening -- and make it stop. Continued denial is unethical, unscientific, and is killing the vaccine program that scientists have worked so hard to build.
I applaud CBS and DR Healy for doing this report.
I implore CBS to stay on this story and refuse to be swayed by pressure from national health institutions and the pharmaceutical industry to bury further stories on this issue. This is a national health crisis and bringing to light the fact that vaccines have contributed greatly to the rise in many childhood diseases is vitally important to the future of our country.
Thanks again for speaking the truth!!!
Don%u2019t worry Euthman, there is indeed research being done to find the causes of autism. Unfortunately, this research won%u2019t be heavily funded by big pharma, and the researchers won%u2019t be employed or influenced by big pharma or gov%u2019t agencies that mandate vaccinations and have a lot of money, reputation, and political power riding on certain results. Also, they%u2019ll arrive at findings quite different than what today%u2019s vaccine apologists expect.
And due to past and current research, treatments of Autism are being developed or already currently in use, successfully in varying degress. Now I know many in mainstream medicine would assign our autistic children to institutions, and blame the mothers for causing their kids condition by %u201Cbeing unloving%u201D; but instead, these kids are being recovered thru both biomedical and behavioral interventions..
Next, Jeanne Cant, I love your reply regarding that %u201Cdarned%u201D snake oil that helped you recover your child.
"Behaviors that perpetuate the autism condition which are typically caused by a lack of understanding of the individualized value of every person''s observations about the condition. Typically fueled by:
Greed, Ego, Arrogance, Selfishness, Denial, Lack of self-realization to ones lack of knowledge, lack of intellectual honesty (ie... saying Ooops or "I don''t know"), and the lack of the inclusion of all thoughts which benefit children with autism (or other disorders)
These symptoms of Societal Autism ultimately perpetuate the autism condition and impair the natural development of man."
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